Re: [SOLVED] wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-02-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2010-02-01 21:41:16 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 This all means that it is possible to run into some unique breakage for your 
 mix of packages.  Bugs should only be filed when they can be found in a pure-
 oldstable (security bugs only), pure-stable (RC or security bugs only), pure-
 testing (only during a freeze; bugfixes should normally come through 
 unstable), or pure-unstable setting.

There's no such thing as a pure-unstable setting. Package upgrades
can come in an unpredictable order, that depends on the architecture,
the mirror and so on. Similarly, some packages may be held for various
reasons. Dependencies should ensure that the system is consistent (as
long as one doesn't downgrade or install non-official packages or
packages from experimental). Otherwise this is a bug.

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Re: [SOLVED] wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-02-02 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20100202133013.gi23...@prunille.vinc17.org, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2010-02-01 21:41:16 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 This all means that it is possible to run into some unique breakage for
 your mix of packages.  Bugs should only be filed when they can be found in
 a pure- oldstable (security bugs only), pure-stable (RC or security bugs
 only), pure- testing (only during a freeze; bugfixes should normally come
 through unstable), or pure-unstable setting.

There's no such thing as a pure-unstable setting.

Yes, there is.

Package upgrades
can come in an unpredictable order, that depends on the architecture,
the mirror and so on.

That doesn't prevent a pure-unstable setting from existing.  It just 
guarantees that (a) it changes frequently and (b) it varies from architecture 
to architecture.  pure-testing also changes fairly frequently and can vary 
from architecture to architecture.  Even pure-oldstable varies from 
architecture to architecture.

It shouldn't depend too much on the mirror.  The way the mirroring process 
works you should only get an older pure-unstable, not one that never existed 
on the main server.

Dependencies should ensure that the system is consistent (as
long as one doesn't downgrade or install non-official packages or
packages from experimental). Otherwise this is a bug.

That would be great, and my experience tell me that it is normally true.  
However, DDs don't have time to test (or fix) every combination of packages 
and versions that are available -- even from only official sources excluding 
experimental.

If you do file a bug, a DD will probably be willing to bump the dependency to 
a versioned dependency whenever the next upload to unstable is done.  That 
doesn't help your stable/testing mixed system though -- not for a minimum of 
ten days.
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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-02-01 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2010-01-31 21:44:09 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:
 Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 On 2010-01-29 20:46:48 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:
 Your right.  I didn't check all of the various depend's.  I just
 pointed it out to Sabastian.  If your running wicd in Sid maybe you
 have an idea 'why' it isn't running then.
 
 Sorry, I have no idea. Check that your installed packages are
 consistent (apt-get install -f signals no errors) and that
 /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py exists.
 
 I was not having problems with wicd.  I was helping the other fellow
 that had problems when he tried installing wicd from sid.

I noticed that some time after sending the mail.

 FYI, on my machine:
 
 Interesting.  Of course if we knew which dist and version you were
 running, it might have helped him, as it is I think the new 1.7.2
 version is working for both of us now.

I'm using sid (amd64).

python-wicd, wicd, wicd-daemon, wicd-gtk 1.7.0-2 for all of them.
Note: this is 1.7.0-2, not 1.7.2.

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[SOLVED] wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-02-01 Thread Sebastian
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:08AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 In 20100130114447.ga2...@hexbrex.tri, Sebastian wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:36PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:
  Even if I remove the unstable and stable entries from sources.list and
  apt/preferences no other versions show up
 
  I would not put all 3 dists in sources.list.  That could/would cause
  quite some mess.  testing/unstable is bad enough but you should be
  careful using it.
 
 I thought if you set up apt-pinning in /etc/apt/preferences that
 should be possible without any major problems?
 
 You've got to remember a few things when running a mixed system:
 
 1. Debian policy is to maintain the ABI for libraries that keep the same 
 SONAME, but sometimes packages headed for unstable/experimental break this, 
 usually unintentionally.  If it is an important library, this can really mess 
 with your system stability (i.e. lack of crashes).
 
 2. Downgrades are not supported, and can't really be.  Once you've pulled in 
 a 
 package from testing/unstable you can't go back, and as that package has new 
 version released, it may gradually need more dependencies from 
 testing/unstable.  For some packages you can PURGE and then reinstall a lower 

Right. We're back on route...

Thanks very much to you, Boyd and Wayne, your input got me on the
right track. Boyd's answer was very informative for me, I wasn't aware
that downgrading isn't really supported. I'll be much more careful
from now on I suppose, thanks a mil, Boyd! Wayne's post tought me 
the use of 'apt-cache policy' and I gained some insights about
apt-pinning. Thanks, Wayne!

I ended up backing up my most important conf-files and home dirs and
re-installing Lenny from netinst. Then I pulled in wicd and another
few things from backports. At the end I added testing to the
sources.list as I do my bookkeeping using ledger which isn't in
backports and I didn't manage to compile from source either and set up
apt-pinning to prefer stable, followed by the backports and with
testing with very low pinning-priority at the end so that packages
installed from backports don't get automatically upgraded to the
testing-versions.

Everything works like it did before (actually even better). The only
thing left is my graphics-adapter (SIS 671/771) which isn't
supported... - Blame SIS!

Thanks again, everybody, for all your help!

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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade **Correction**

2010-02-01 Thread Wayne linux...@gmail.com

Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:




Sebastian



Glad you got it going!!!


I just finished setting up another testing box with wireless, an
old Netgear WPN311 pci card.  Using the madwifi ath5k modules.

I installed wicd 1.7.0-2 and, after fixing some of my usual typo's,
it is running as good as the old 1.6 version.


On testing and sid on a 32 bit 686 system wicd 1.7.0-2 is working with
the 2.6.30 and 2.6.32 trunk kernels.  It does not work, for me anyway,
on the 64 bit testing  sid box.  I had to revert to wicd 1.6 and the 
2.6.30 kernel to get it back on the 64bit box.


It seems that I can not compile the madwifi drivers when using the 
2-6-32 trunk kernels on the 64 bit testing partition.  The kernel seems 
to be lacking something.  That is in testing.  Grub2 has messed up the 
booting so I can't check it out in 64bit stable or sid partitions until 
I can de-grub that system.  	


Rather then switch to lilo, I think I will set up kubunto on a spare
200 Gig partition ans see why they don't have as many problems as I have 
had lately.


Regards

Wayne


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Re: [SOLVED] wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-02-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20100202014934.ga11...@herbx.tri, Sebastian wrote:
I ended up backing up my most important conf-files and home dirs and
re-installing Lenny from netinst. Then I pulled in wicd and another
few things from backports. At the end I added testing to the
sources.list as I do my bookkeeping using ledger which isn't in
backports and I didn't manage to compile from source either and set up
apt-pinning to prefer stable, followed by the backports and with
testing with very low pinning-priority at the end so that packages
installed from backports don't get automatically upgraded to the
testing-versions.

While this has been successful for me, keep in mind that developers don't 
really test packages that are in testing to see how well / if they run with 
any / all of their dependencies satisfied with stable packages.  (If they *do* 
that work, they generally prepare a version of the package for backports.)

Something similar can be said for stable package having their dependencies 
satisfied by something from testing.  That means that a mixed stable / testing 
system (or any mixture that involved both stable and testing) is only 
marginally more supported than pulling packages from a non-official source.

This all means that it is possible to run into some unique breakage for your 
mix of packages.  Bugs should only be filed when they can be found in a pure-
oldstable (security bugs only), pure-stable (RC or security bugs only), pure-
testing (only during a freeze; bugfixes should normally come through 
unstable), or pure-unstable setting.

For reproducing bugs on one of those systems without dedicated hardware, 
there's a number of virtualization / emulation technologies in the Debian 
repositories.  Also, there is pbuilder (and variants like cowbuilder) to 
automate the building of a minimal Debian environment (normally in a chroot).
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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-31 Thread Wayne linux...@gmail.com

Sebastian wrote:

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:36PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:


Sebastian wrote:

After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs 
and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module
   from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio
ImportError: No module named logfile



--- snip ---


Yes, I have apt-listbugs installed and working here as well, yet I
can't remember any bugs for wicd coming up before the upgrade - of
course it was late in the night and who knows what I was seeing ;-)

Anyway, I removed unstable from the sources.list and tried removing
and re-installing wicd but I can still only get 1.7.0-2


Yes 'apt-cache policy wicd' will show the packages in every dist you
have in the sources.list, I believe. Here it shows both
testing/unstable.



thanks, 'apt-cache policy wicd' shows
wicd:
  Installed: 1.7.0-2
  Candidate: 1.7.0-2
  Version table:
 *** 1.7.0-2 0
700 http://ftp.ie.debian.org testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

hmmm... 1.7.0-2 is testing??? And no 1.6...?
Getting more and more confused here... - Any hints


Sebastian

I just finished setting up another testing box with wireless, an
old Netgear WPN311 pci card.  Using the madwifi ath5k modules.

I installed wicd 1.7.0-2 and, after fixing some of my usual typo's,
it is running as good ad the old 1.6 version.

HTH
Wayne


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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-31 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2010-01-29 20:46:48 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:
 Your right.  I didn't check all of the various depend's.  I just
 pointed it out to Sabastian.  If your running wicd in Sid maybe you
 have an idea 'why' it isn't running then.

Sorry, I have no idea. Check that your installed packages are
consistent (apt-get install -f signals no errors) and that
/usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py exists.

FYI, on my machine:

xvii:~ dlocate logfile.py
python-wicd: /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py
xvii:~ locate logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyc
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyo
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.pyc
/usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py

/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.*/wicd/logfile.py* are probably needed
and built by a postinstall script. If you don't have such a file
corresponding to the installed python versions, that may be a bug
in some python-related package.

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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-31 Thread Wayne linux...@gmail.com

Vincent Lefevre wrote:

On 2010-01-29 20:46:48 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:

Your right.  I didn't check all of the various depend's.  I just
pointed it out to Sabastian.  If your running wicd in Sid maybe you
have an idea 'why' it isn't running then.


Sorry, I have no idea. Check that your installed packages are
consistent (apt-get install -f signals no errors) and that
/usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py exists.


I was not having problems with wicd.  I was helping the other fellow 
that had problems when he tried installing wicd from sid.



FYI, on my machine:


Interesting.  Of course if we knew which dist and version you were 
running, it might have helped him, as it is I think the new 1.7.2 
version is working for both of us now.


Thanks anyway.


xvii:~ dlocate logfile.py
python-wicd: /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py
xvii:~ locate logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyc
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyo
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.pyc
/usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py

/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.*/wicd/logfile.py* are probably needed
and built by a postinstall script. If you don't have such a file
corresponding to the installed python versions, that may be a bug
in some python-related package.



Wicd verion 1.7.2 just migrated to testing.  It no longer uses 
python-wicd.  I was not using it, python-wicd, when I ran 1.6, either.


Wayne


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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-30 Thread Sebastian
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:36PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sebastian wrote:
 After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's 
 logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following 
 error:
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module
 from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio
 ImportError: No module named logfile
 
 I tried purging and re-installing it but to no avail...
 Should I file this as a bug or is it just me not seeing something obvious?
 
 I'm running squeeze/sid (apt prefers testing) mainly testing yet I am
 a bit confused as I can only seem to find version 1.7.0-2 of wicd on
 my system but packages.debian.org states that the current testing
 version is 1.6.2.2-4 and testing is 1.7.0-2 (my version). I tried
 removing it and re-installing with 'apt-get install wicd=1.6.2.2-4'
 with the reply: E: Version '1.6.2.2-4' for 'wicd' was not found?!?
 
 I also run testing/sid and my wicd is from testing.
 
 Even if I remove the unstable and stable entries from sources.list and
 apt/preferences no other versions show up
 
 I would not put all 3 dists in sources.list.  That could/would cause
 quite some mess.  testing/unstable is bad enough but you should be
 careful using it.  If I even 'think' about pulling in an unstable
 package, and it's dependices,  [...snip...]

I thought if you set up apt-pinning in /etc/apt/preferences that
should be possible without any major problems?

   [...snip...]
  I first run apt-listbugs on all of
 those packages before I download any of them
 

Yes, I have apt-listbugs installed and working here as well, yet I
can't remember any bugs for wicd coming up before the upgrade - of
course it was late in the night and who knows what I was seeing ;-)

Anyway, I removed unstable from the sources.list and tried removing
and re-installing wicd but I can still only get 1.7.0-2

 
 Yes 'apt-cache policy wicd' will show the packages in every dist you
 have in the sources.list, I believe. Here it shows both
 testing/unstable.
 

thanks, 'apt-cache policy wicd' shows
wicd:
  Installed: 1.7.0-2
  Candidate: 1.7.0-2
  Version table:
 *** 1.7.0-2 0
700 http://ftp.ie.debian.org testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

hmmm... 1.7.0-2 is testing??? And no 1.6...?
Getting more and more confused here... - Any hints?

 Hope this helps
 
 Wayne

Thanx a mil Wayne

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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-30 Thread Wayne linux...@gmail.com


Sebastian wrote:

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:36PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:


Sebastian wrote:

After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs 
and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error:


---Snip---



  [...snip...]
 I first run apt-listbugs on all of
those packages before I download any of them



Yes, I have apt-listbugs installed and working here as well, yet I
can't remember any bugs for wicd coming up before the upgrade - of
course it was late in the night and who knows what I was seeing ;-)

Anyway, I removed unstable from the sources.list and tried removing
and re-installing wicd but I can still only get 1.7.0-2


Yes 'apt-cache policy wicd' will show the packages in every dist you
have in the sources.list, I believe. Here it shows both
testing/unstable.



thanks, 'apt-cache policy wicd' shows
wicd:
  Installed: 1.7.0-2
  Candidate: 1.7.0-2
  Version table:
 *** 1.7.0-2 0
700 http://ftp.ie.debian.org testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

hmmm... 1.7.0-2 is testing??? And no 1.6...?
Getting more and more confused here... - Any hints?
]


Humm  After removing unstable from sources.list did you do another
aptitude update?

I just did another update, here it is:
VT/dev/pts/0 wt...@dj-squeeze]
~$ policy wicd
wicd:
  Installed: 1.6.2.2-4
  Candidate: 1.7.0-2
  Version table:
 1.7.0-2 0
990 http://mirrors.geeks.org squeeze/main Packages
600 http://mirror.rit.edu unstable/main Packages
 *** 1.6.2.2-4 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Note that I have aliased apt-cache policy in my .bashrc
as policy.

It seems that wicd has migrated to squeeze/testing since we started this 
discussion.  One thing I have noticed in the last 4-6 months though is 
that there seems to be more packages entering testing that fail 
apt-listbugs then there used to be.


So to test that, I tried apt-listbugs, which I recall had it's own bugs 
after my last upgrade. ;_(  I had to upgrade it, again now, to test my 
theory so... Note my alias for apt-listbugs used here:


[VT/dev/pts/0 wt...@dj-squeeze]
~$ bugs list wicd=1.6.2.2-4 wicd=1.7.0-2
Reading package fields... Done
Reading package status... Done
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done

That says that both versions should work. To see which one will be 
installed I did


aptitude -s install wicd

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  python-wicd{a} wicd-daemon{a} wicd-gtk{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  python-urwid{u}
The following packages will be upgraded:
  wicd
1 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 1 to remove and 12 not upgraded.

That is version 1.7.0-2.

As I am not having a problem with my current version, I won't upgrade 
wicd for a while.  You, on the other hand, can do an aptitude update and 
then safe-upgrade and, it might have been fixed.  I say might because it 
just migrated and I am leery of packages coming into testing, as I 
mentioned above.



Thanx a mil Wayne


No problem Sabestian, just hope it goes well for you, this time.

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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-30 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20100130114447.ga2...@hexbrex.tri, Sebastian wrote:
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:36PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:
 Even if I remove the unstable and stable entries from sources.list and
 apt/preferences no other versions show up

 I would not put all 3 dists in sources.list.  That could/would cause
 quite some mess.  testing/unstable is bad enough but you should be
 careful using it.

I thought if you set up apt-pinning in /etc/apt/preferences that
should be possible without any major problems?

You've got to remember a few things when running a mixed system:

1. Debian policy is to maintain the ABI for libraries that keep the same 
SONAME, but sometimes packages headed for unstable/experimental break this, 
usually unintentionally.  If it is an important library, this can really mess 
with your system stability (i.e. lack of crashes).

2. Downgrades are not supported, and can't really be.  Once you've pulled in a 
package from testing/unstable you can't go back, and as that package has new 
version released, it may gradually need more dependencies from 
testing/unstable.  For some packages you can PURGE and then reinstall a lower 
version, but doing the purge can be difficult if you have other packages that 
depend on it.  I've done some normal package downgrades before, but I got 
lucky and they worked; I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

3. Just because a package says it will work with the libraries in stable 
doesn't always mean it will.  Humans do the packaging and they make mistakes.  
Since most packages are uploaded to unstable (and migrate to testing/stable 
through other means), they are tested against a pure unstable system.  Even 
packages that are uploaded specifically to testing (rare) or stable(-proposed-
updates), aren't tested on a mixed system, but rather a pure testing or pure 
stable system.

4. apt-listbugs is your friend, particularly when you are upgrading a package 
from stable - testing or testing - unstable.  You don't have to let every 
bug hold you back, but you should be selective about which bugs you install.

5. apt-cache policy is invaluable in making sure your /etc/apt/preferences 
file is provided the level of mix you want.

In short, you are in potentially dangerous and completely unsupported waters.  
The mix of testing/unstable is fairly well tested and documented in 
apt_preferences(5).  Using stable + backports is very safe, even without 
pinning  (backports pins itself to priority 1).  Using unstable + experimental 
is how experimental was designed (it doesn't have every package) so it is as 
safe as using experimental packages ever is.

Something like my stable/backports/testing/unstable/experimental mix is well 
beyond unsupported, at least in theory.  In practice it has been no harder to 
maintain that any other Debian system, and I've been able to use the same 
resources I ever did.

I recommend it for advanced users that are comfortable working with the 
interactive dependency resolver in aptitude, but with the warnings above in 
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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2010-01-29 01:31:38 +, Sebastian wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs 
 and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error:
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module
 from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio
 ImportError: No module named logfile

I have no such problem with wicd 1.7.0-2 (from unstable).

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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-29 Thread Sebastian
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:27PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sebastian wrote:

 After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's 
 logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following 
 error:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module
 from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio
 ImportError: No module named logfile

 I tried purging and re-installing it but to no avail...
 Should I file this as a bug or is it just me not seeing something obvious?

 Can't really say as you forgot to tell us what you are running on and  
 which version of wicd isn't working.


Ah yeah, sorry...

I'm running squeeze/sid (apt prefers testing) mainly testing yet I am
a bit confused as I can only seem to find version 1.7.0-2 of wicd on
my system but packages.debian.org states that the current testing
version is 1.6.2.2-4 and testing is 1.7.0-2 (my version). I tried
removing it and re-installing with 'apt-get install wicd=1.6.2.2-4'
with the reply: E: Version '1.6.2.2-4' for 'wicd' was not found?!?

Even if I remove the unstable and stable entries from sources.list and
apt/preferences no other versions show up

Is there a good way of checking from which repository an installed
package is, by the way?

TIA, Sebastian


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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-29 Thread Wayne linux...@gmail.com

Sebastian wrote:

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:27PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:

Sebastian wrote:

After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs 
and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module
from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio
ImportError: No module named logfile

I tried purging and re-installing it but to no avail...
Should I file this as a bug or is it just me not seeing something obvious?
Can't really say as you forgot to tell us what you are running on and  
which version of wicd isn't working.




Ah yeah, sorry...

I'm running squeeze/sid (apt prefers testing) mainly testing yet I am
a bit confused as I can only seem to find version 1.7.0-2 of wicd on
my system but packages.debian.org states that the current testing
version is 1.6.2.2-4 and testing is 1.7.0-2 (my version). I tried
removing it and re-installing with 'apt-get install wicd=1.6.2.2-4'
with the reply: E: Version '1.6.2.2-4' for 'wicd' was not found?!?


I also run testing/sid and my wicd is from testing.

You might(?) want to try 'aptitude -t testing install wicd' after you 
remove your current wicd sid package (not purge).  That will bull in a


Just did an update and 'apt-cache show wicd'. Note: I have squeeze and 
unstable in my sources.list.  Your 1.7.0-2 version does not use the 
python packages that 1.6.2.2-4 does.


Strange, I see that there is a python-wicd 1.7.0-2 package in unstable
but it is not shown as Depends in wicd 1.7.0-2 package. Wonder what that 
is about???



Even if I remove the unstable and stable entries from sources.list and
apt/preferences no other versions show up


I would not put all 3 dists in sources.list.  That could/would cause 
quite some mess.  testing/unstable is bad enough but you should be 
careful using it.  If I even 'think' about pulling in an unstable 
package, and it's dependices, I first run apt-listbugs on all of those 
packages before I download any of them


 Is there a good way of checking from which repository an installed

package is, by the way?


Yes 'apt-cache policy wicd' will show the packages in every dist you 
have in the sources.list, I believe. Here it shows both testing/unstable.


Hope this helps

Wayne


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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2010-01-29 14:36:03 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:
 Strange, I see that there is a python-wicd 1.7.0-2 package in unstable
 but it is not shown as Depends in wicd 1.7.0-2 package. Wonder what
 that is about???

wicd 1.7.0-2 depends on wicd-daemon 1.7.0-2, which depends on
python-wicd 1.7.0-2. There's nothing wrong with that.

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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-29 Thread Wayne linux...@gmail.com

Vincent Lefevre wrote:

On 2010-01-29 14:36:03 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote:

Strange, I see that there is a python-wicd 1.7.0-2 package in unstable
but it is not shown as Depends in wicd 1.7.0-2 package. Wonder what
that is about???


wicd 1.7.0-2 depends on wicd-daemon 1.7.0-2, which depends on
python-wicd 1.7.0-2. There's nothing wrong with that.



Your right.  I didn't check all of the various depend's.  I just pointed 
it out to Sabastian.  If your running wicd in Sid maybe you have an idea 
'why' it isn't running then.


Wayne


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wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-28 Thread Sebastian
Hi all!

After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs 
and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module
from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio
ImportError: No module named logfile

I tried purging and re-installing it but to no avail...
Should I file this as a bug or is it just me not seeing something obvious?

Cheerio

Sebastian


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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-28 Thread Wayne linux...@gmail.com

Sebastian wrote:

Hi all!

After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs 
and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module
from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio
ImportError: No module named logfile

I tried purging and re-installing it but to no avail...
Should I file this as a bug or is it just me not seeing something obvious?


Can't really say as you forgot to tell us what you are running on and 
which version of wicd isn't working.


I am running wicd 1.6.2.2-4 on testing AMD64 and it is working fine.

I did notice that an update, of testing, today did have a problem with 
loading python-wicd because it conflicts with wicd.


Wayne




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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

2010-01-28 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Friday 29 January 2010 02:31:38 Sebastian wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's
  logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following
  error:
 
 
 Sebastian
 

Same here. Reinstalled wicd and wicd-gtk. Everything OK now.
Thierry


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