Re: [SOLVED] wicd fails to start after upgrade
On 2010-02-01 21:41:16 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: This all means that it is possible to run into some unique breakage for your mix of packages. Bugs should only be filed when they can be found in a pure- oldstable (security bugs only), pure-stable (RC or security bugs only), pure- testing (only during a freeze; bugfixes should normally come through unstable), or pure-unstable setting. There's no such thing as a pure-unstable setting. Package upgrades can come in an unpredictable order, that depends on the architecture, the mirror and so on. Similarly, some packages may be held for various reasons. Dependencies should ensure that the system is consistent (as long as one doesn't downgrade or install non-official packages or packages from experimental). Otherwise this is a bug. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arénaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [SOLVED] wicd fails to start after upgrade
In 20100202133013.gi23...@prunille.vinc17.org, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2010-02-01 21:41:16 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: This all means that it is possible to run into some unique breakage for your mix of packages. Bugs should only be filed when they can be found in a pure- oldstable (security bugs only), pure-stable (RC or security bugs only), pure- testing (only during a freeze; bugfixes should normally come through unstable), or pure-unstable setting. There's no such thing as a pure-unstable setting. Yes, there is. Package upgrades can come in an unpredictable order, that depends on the architecture, the mirror and so on. That doesn't prevent a pure-unstable setting from existing. It just guarantees that (a) it changes frequently and (b) it varies from architecture to architecture. pure-testing also changes fairly frequently and can vary from architecture to architecture. Even pure-oldstable varies from architecture to architecture. It shouldn't depend too much on the mirror. The way the mirroring process works you should only get an older pure-unstable, not one that never existed on the main server. Dependencies should ensure that the system is consistent (as long as one doesn't downgrade or install non-official packages or packages from experimental). Otherwise this is a bug. That would be great, and my experience tell me that it is normally true. However, DDs don't have time to test (or fix) every combination of packages and versions that are available -- even from only official sources excluding experimental. If you do file a bug, a DD will probably be willing to bump the dependency to a versioned dependency whenever the next upload to unstable is done. That doesn't help your stable/testing mixed system though -- not for a minimum of ten days. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
On 2010-01-31 21:44:09 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2010-01-29 20:46:48 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Your right. I didn't check all of the various depend's. I just pointed it out to Sabastian. If your running wicd in Sid maybe you have an idea 'why' it isn't running then. Sorry, I have no idea. Check that your installed packages are consistent (apt-get install -f signals no errors) and that /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py exists. I was not having problems with wicd. I was helping the other fellow that had problems when he tried installing wicd from sid. I noticed that some time after sending the mail. FYI, on my machine: Interesting. Of course if we knew which dist and version you were running, it might have helped him, as it is I think the new 1.7.2 version is working for both of us now. I'm using sid (amd64). python-wicd, wicd, wicd-daemon, wicd-gtk 1.7.0-2 for all of them. Note: this is 1.7.0-2, not 1.7.2. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arénaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
[SOLVED] wicd fails to start after upgrade
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:08AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20100130114447.ga2...@hexbrex.tri, Sebastian wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:36PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Even if I remove the unstable and stable entries from sources.list and apt/preferences no other versions show up I would not put all 3 dists in sources.list. That could/would cause quite some mess. testing/unstable is bad enough but you should be careful using it. I thought if you set up apt-pinning in /etc/apt/preferences that should be possible without any major problems? You've got to remember a few things when running a mixed system: 1. Debian policy is to maintain the ABI for libraries that keep the same SONAME, but sometimes packages headed for unstable/experimental break this, usually unintentionally. If it is an important library, this can really mess with your system stability (i.e. lack of crashes). 2. Downgrades are not supported, and can't really be. Once you've pulled in a package from testing/unstable you can't go back, and as that package has new version released, it may gradually need more dependencies from testing/unstable. For some packages you can PURGE and then reinstall a lower Right. We're back on route... Thanks very much to you, Boyd and Wayne, your input got me on the right track. Boyd's answer was very informative for me, I wasn't aware that downgrading isn't really supported. I'll be much more careful from now on I suppose, thanks a mil, Boyd! Wayne's post tought me the use of 'apt-cache policy' and I gained some insights about apt-pinning. Thanks, Wayne! I ended up backing up my most important conf-files and home dirs and re-installing Lenny from netinst. Then I pulled in wicd and another few things from backports. At the end I added testing to the sources.list as I do my bookkeeping using ledger which isn't in backports and I didn't manage to compile from source either and set up apt-pinning to prefer stable, followed by the backports and with testing with very low pinning-priority at the end so that packages installed from backports don't get automatically upgraded to the testing-versions. Everything works like it did before (actually even better). The only thing left is my graphics-adapter (SIS 671/771) which isn't supported... - Blame SIS! Thanks again, everybody, for all your help! Sebastian -- A countryman between two lawyers is like a fish between two cats. -- Ben Franklin signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade **Correction**
Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Sebastian Glad you got it going!!! I just finished setting up another testing box with wireless, an old Netgear WPN311 pci card. Using the madwifi ath5k modules. I installed wicd 1.7.0-2 and, after fixing some of my usual typo's, it is running as good as the old 1.6 version. On testing and sid on a 32 bit 686 system wicd 1.7.0-2 is working with the 2.6.30 and 2.6.32 trunk kernels. It does not work, for me anyway, on the 64 bit testing sid box. I had to revert to wicd 1.6 and the 2.6.30 kernel to get it back on the 64bit box. It seems that I can not compile the madwifi drivers when using the 2-6-32 trunk kernels on the 64 bit testing partition. The kernel seems to be lacking something. That is in testing. Grub2 has messed up the booting so I can't check it out in 64bit stable or sid partitions until I can de-grub that system. Rather then switch to lilo, I think I will set up kubunto on a spare 200 Gig partition ans see why they don't have as many problems as I have had lately. Regards Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [SOLVED] wicd fails to start after upgrade
In 20100202014934.ga11...@herbx.tri, Sebastian wrote: I ended up backing up my most important conf-files and home dirs and re-installing Lenny from netinst. Then I pulled in wicd and another few things from backports. At the end I added testing to the sources.list as I do my bookkeeping using ledger which isn't in backports and I didn't manage to compile from source either and set up apt-pinning to prefer stable, followed by the backports and with testing with very low pinning-priority at the end so that packages installed from backports don't get automatically upgraded to the testing-versions. While this has been successful for me, keep in mind that developers don't really test packages that are in testing to see how well / if they run with any / all of their dependencies satisfied with stable packages. (If they *do* that work, they generally prepare a version of the package for backports.) Something similar can be said for stable package having their dependencies satisfied by something from testing. That means that a mixed stable / testing system (or any mixture that involved both stable and testing) is only marginally more supported than pulling packages from a non-official source. This all means that it is possible to run into some unique breakage for your mix of packages. Bugs should only be filed when they can be found in a pure- oldstable (security bugs only), pure-stable (RC or security bugs only), pure- testing (only during a freeze; bugfixes should normally come through unstable), or pure-unstable setting. For reproducing bugs on one of those systems without dedicated hardware, there's a number of virtualization / emulation technologies in the Debian repositories. Also, there is pbuilder (and variants like cowbuilder) to automate the building of a minimal Debian environment (normally in a chroot). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
Sebastian wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:36PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Sebastian wrote: After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio ImportError: No module named logfile --- snip --- Yes, I have apt-listbugs installed and working here as well, yet I can't remember any bugs for wicd coming up before the upgrade - of course it was late in the night and who knows what I was seeing ;-) Anyway, I removed unstable from the sources.list and tried removing and re-installing wicd but I can still only get 1.7.0-2 Yes 'apt-cache policy wicd' will show the packages in every dist you have in the sources.list, I believe. Here it shows both testing/unstable. thanks, 'apt-cache policy wicd' shows wicd: Installed: 1.7.0-2 Candidate: 1.7.0-2 Version table: *** 1.7.0-2 0 700 http://ftp.ie.debian.org testing/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status hmmm... 1.7.0-2 is testing??? And no 1.6...? Getting more and more confused here... - Any hints Sebastian I just finished setting up another testing box with wireless, an old Netgear WPN311 pci card. Using the madwifi ath5k modules. I installed wicd 1.7.0-2 and, after fixing some of my usual typo's, it is running as good ad the old 1.6 version. HTH Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
On 2010-01-29 20:46:48 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Your right. I didn't check all of the various depend's. I just pointed it out to Sabastian. If your running wicd in Sid maybe you have an idea 'why' it isn't running then. Sorry, I have no idea. Check that your installed packages are consistent (apt-get install -f signals no errors) and that /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py exists. FYI, on my machine: xvii:~ dlocate logfile.py python-wicd: /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py xvii:~ locate logfile.py /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.py /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyc /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyo /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.py /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.pyc /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.*/wicd/logfile.py* are probably needed and built by a postinstall script. If you don't have such a file corresponding to the installed python versions, that may be a bug in some python-related package. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arénaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2010-01-29 20:46:48 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Your right. I didn't check all of the various depend's. I just pointed it out to Sabastian. If your running wicd in Sid maybe you have an idea 'why' it isn't running then. Sorry, I have no idea. Check that your installed packages are consistent (apt-get install -f signals no errors) and that /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py exists. I was not having problems with wicd. I was helping the other fellow that had problems when he tried installing wicd from sid. FYI, on my machine: Interesting. Of course if we knew which dist and version you were running, it might have helped him, as it is I think the new 1.7.2 version is working for both of us now. Thanks anyway. xvii:~ dlocate logfile.py python-wicd: /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py xvii:~ locate logfile.py /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.py /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyc /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyo /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.py /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.pyc /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.*/wicd/logfile.py* are probably needed and built by a postinstall script. If you don't have such a file corresponding to the installed python versions, that may be a bug in some python-related package. Wicd verion 1.7.2 just migrated to testing. It no longer uses python-wicd. I was not using it, python-wicd, when I ran 1.6, either. Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:36PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Sebastian wrote: After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio ImportError: No module named logfile I tried purging and re-installing it but to no avail... Should I file this as a bug or is it just me not seeing something obvious? I'm running squeeze/sid (apt prefers testing) mainly testing yet I am a bit confused as I can only seem to find version 1.7.0-2 of wicd on my system but packages.debian.org states that the current testing version is 1.6.2.2-4 and testing is 1.7.0-2 (my version). I tried removing it and re-installing with 'apt-get install wicd=1.6.2.2-4' with the reply: E: Version '1.6.2.2-4' for 'wicd' was not found?!? I also run testing/sid and my wicd is from testing. Even if I remove the unstable and stable entries from sources.list and apt/preferences no other versions show up I would not put all 3 dists in sources.list. That could/would cause quite some mess. testing/unstable is bad enough but you should be careful using it. If I even 'think' about pulling in an unstable package, and it's dependices, [...snip...] I thought if you set up apt-pinning in /etc/apt/preferences that should be possible without any major problems? [...snip...] I first run apt-listbugs on all of those packages before I download any of them Yes, I have apt-listbugs installed and working here as well, yet I can't remember any bugs for wicd coming up before the upgrade - of course it was late in the night and who knows what I was seeing ;-) Anyway, I removed unstable from the sources.list and tried removing and re-installing wicd but I can still only get 1.7.0-2 Yes 'apt-cache policy wicd' will show the packages in every dist you have in the sources.list, I believe. Here it shows both testing/unstable. thanks, 'apt-cache policy wicd' shows wicd: Installed: 1.7.0-2 Candidate: 1.7.0-2 Version table: *** 1.7.0-2 0 700 http://ftp.ie.debian.org testing/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status hmmm... 1.7.0-2 is testing??? And no 1.6...? Getting more and more confused here... - Any hints? Hope this helps Wayne Thanx a mil Wayne Sebastian -- A man of genius makes no mistakes. His errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery. -- James Joyce, Ulysses -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
Sebastian wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:36PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Sebastian wrote: After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error: ---Snip--- [...snip...] I first run apt-listbugs on all of those packages before I download any of them Yes, I have apt-listbugs installed and working here as well, yet I can't remember any bugs for wicd coming up before the upgrade - of course it was late in the night and who knows what I was seeing ;-) Anyway, I removed unstable from the sources.list and tried removing and re-installing wicd but I can still only get 1.7.0-2 Yes 'apt-cache policy wicd' will show the packages in every dist you have in the sources.list, I believe. Here it shows both testing/unstable. thanks, 'apt-cache policy wicd' shows wicd: Installed: 1.7.0-2 Candidate: 1.7.0-2 Version table: *** 1.7.0-2 0 700 http://ftp.ie.debian.org testing/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status hmmm... 1.7.0-2 is testing??? And no 1.6...? Getting more and more confused here... - Any hints? ] Humm After removing unstable from sources.list did you do another aptitude update? I just did another update, here it is: VT/dev/pts/0 wt...@dj-squeeze] ~$ policy wicd wicd: Installed: 1.6.2.2-4 Candidate: 1.7.0-2 Version table: 1.7.0-2 0 990 http://mirrors.geeks.org squeeze/main Packages 600 http://mirror.rit.edu unstable/main Packages *** 1.6.2.2-4 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Note that I have aliased apt-cache policy in my .bashrc as policy. It seems that wicd has migrated to squeeze/testing since we started this discussion. One thing I have noticed in the last 4-6 months though is that there seems to be more packages entering testing that fail apt-listbugs then there used to be. So to test that, I tried apt-listbugs, which I recall had it's own bugs after my last upgrade. ;_( I had to upgrade it, again now, to test my theory so... Note my alias for apt-listbugs used here: [VT/dev/pts/0 wt...@dj-squeeze] ~$ bugs list wicd=1.6.2.2-4 wicd=1.7.0-2 Reading package fields... Done Reading package status... Done Retrieving bug reports... Done Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done That says that both versions should work. To see which one will be installed I did aptitude -s install wicd Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: python-wicd{a} wicd-daemon{a} wicd-gtk{a} The following packages will be REMOVED: python-urwid{u} The following packages will be upgraded: wicd 1 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 1 to remove and 12 not upgraded. That is version 1.7.0-2. As I am not having a problem with my current version, I won't upgrade wicd for a while. You, on the other hand, can do an aptitude update and then safe-upgrade and, it might have been fixed. I say might because it just migrated and I am leery of packages coming into testing, as I mentioned above. Thanx a mil Wayne No problem Sabestian, just hope it goes well for you, this time. Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
In 20100130114447.ga2...@hexbrex.tri, Sebastian wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:36PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Even if I remove the unstable and stable entries from sources.list and apt/preferences no other versions show up I would not put all 3 dists in sources.list. That could/would cause quite some mess. testing/unstable is bad enough but you should be careful using it. I thought if you set up apt-pinning in /etc/apt/preferences that should be possible without any major problems? You've got to remember a few things when running a mixed system: 1. Debian policy is to maintain the ABI for libraries that keep the same SONAME, but sometimes packages headed for unstable/experimental break this, usually unintentionally. If it is an important library, this can really mess with your system stability (i.e. lack of crashes). 2. Downgrades are not supported, and can't really be. Once you've pulled in a package from testing/unstable you can't go back, and as that package has new version released, it may gradually need more dependencies from testing/unstable. For some packages you can PURGE and then reinstall a lower version, but doing the purge can be difficult if you have other packages that depend on it. I've done some normal package downgrades before, but I got lucky and they worked; I wouldn't recommend them to anyone. 3. Just because a package says it will work with the libraries in stable doesn't always mean it will. Humans do the packaging and they make mistakes. Since most packages are uploaded to unstable (and migrate to testing/stable through other means), they are tested against a pure unstable system. Even packages that are uploaded specifically to testing (rare) or stable(-proposed- updates), aren't tested on a mixed system, but rather a pure testing or pure stable system. 4. apt-listbugs is your friend, particularly when you are upgrading a package from stable - testing or testing - unstable. You don't have to let every bug hold you back, but you should be selective about which bugs you install. 5. apt-cache policy is invaluable in making sure your /etc/apt/preferences file is provided the level of mix you want. In short, you are in potentially dangerous and completely unsupported waters. The mix of testing/unstable is fairly well tested and documented in apt_preferences(5). Using stable + backports is very safe, even without pinning (backports pins itself to priority 1). Using unstable + experimental is how experimental was designed (it doesn't have every package) so it is as safe as using experimental packages ever is. Something like my stable/backports/testing/unstable/experimental mix is well beyond unsupported, at least in theory. In practice it has been no harder to maintain that any other Debian system, and I've been able to use the same resources I ever did. I recommend it for advanced users that are comfortable working with the interactive dependency resolver in aptitude, but with the warnings above in mind. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
On 2010-01-29 01:31:38 +, Sebastian wrote: Hi all! After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio ImportError: No module named logfile I have no such problem with wicd 1.7.0-2 (from unstable). -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arénaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:27PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Sebastian wrote: After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio ImportError: No module named logfile I tried purging and re-installing it but to no avail... Should I file this as a bug or is it just me not seeing something obvious? Can't really say as you forgot to tell us what you are running on and which version of wicd isn't working. Ah yeah, sorry... I'm running squeeze/sid (apt prefers testing) mainly testing yet I am a bit confused as I can only seem to find version 1.7.0-2 of wicd on my system but packages.debian.org states that the current testing version is 1.6.2.2-4 and testing is 1.7.0-2 (my version). I tried removing it and re-installing with 'apt-get install wicd=1.6.2.2-4' with the reply: E: Version '1.6.2.2-4' for 'wicd' was not found?!? Even if I remove the unstable and stable entries from sources.list and apt/preferences no other versions show up Is there a good way of checking from which repository an installed package is, by the way? TIA, Sebastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
Sebastian wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:27PM -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Sebastian wrote: After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio ImportError: No module named logfile I tried purging and re-installing it but to no avail... Should I file this as a bug or is it just me not seeing something obvious? Can't really say as you forgot to tell us what you are running on and which version of wicd isn't working. Ah yeah, sorry... I'm running squeeze/sid (apt prefers testing) mainly testing yet I am a bit confused as I can only seem to find version 1.7.0-2 of wicd on my system but packages.debian.org states that the current testing version is 1.6.2.2-4 and testing is 1.7.0-2 (my version). I tried removing it and re-installing with 'apt-get install wicd=1.6.2.2-4' with the reply: E: Version '1.6.2.2-4' for 'wicd' was not found?!? I also run testing/sid and my wicd is from testing. You might(?) want to try 'aptitude -t testing install wicd' after you remove your current wicd sid package (not purge). That will bull in a Just did an update and 'apt-cache show wicd'. Note: I have squeeze and unstable in my sources.list. Your 1.7.0-2 version does not use the python packages that 1.6.2.2-4 does. Strange, I see that there is a python-wicd 1.7.0-2 package in unstable but it is not shown as Depends in wicd 1.7.0-2 package. Wonder what that is about??? Even if I remove the unstable and stable entries from sources.list and apt/preferences no other versions show up I would not put all 3 dists in sources.list. That could/would cause quite some mess. testing/unstable is bad enough but you should be careful using it. If I even 'think' about pulling in an unstable package, and it's dependices, I first run apt-listbugs on all of those packages before I download any of them Is there a good way of checking from which repository an installed package is, by the way? Yes 'apt-cache policy wicd' will show the packages in every dist you have in the sources.list, I believe. Here it shows both testing/unstable. Hope this helps Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
On 2010-01-29 14:36:03 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Strange, I see that there is a python-wicd 1.7.0-2 package in unstable but it is not shown as Depends in wicd 1.7.0-2 package. Wonder what that is about??? wicd 1.7.0-2 depends on wicd-daemon 1.7.0-2, which depends on python-wicd 1.7.0-2. There's nothing wrong with that. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arénaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2010-01-29 14:36:03 -0500, Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: Strange, I see that there is a python-wicd 1.7.0-2 package in unstable but it is not shown as Depends in wicd 1.7.0-2 package. Wonder what that is about??? wicd 1.7.0-2 depends on wicd-daemon 1.7.0-2, which depends on python-wicd 1.7.0-2. There's nothing wrong with that. Your right. I didn't check all of the various depend's. I just pointed it out to Sabastian. If your running wicd in Sid maybe you have an idea 'why' it isn't running then. Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
wicd fails to start after upgrade
Hi all! After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio ImportError: No module named logfile I tried purging and re-installing it but to no avail... Should I file this as a bug or is it just me not seeing something obvious? Cheerio Sebastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
Sebastian wrote: Hi all! After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py, line 61, in module from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio ImportError: No module named logfile I tried purging and re-installing it but to no avail... Should I file this as a bug or is it just me not seeing something obvious? Can't really say as you forgot to tell us what you are running on and which version of wicd isn't working. I am running wicd 1.6.2.2-4 on testing AMD64 and it is working fine. I did notice that an update, of testing, today did have a problem with loading python-wicd because it conflicts with wicd. Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade
On Friday 29 January 2010 02:31:38 Sebastian wrote: Hi all! After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error: Sebastian Same here. Reinstalled wicd and wicd-gtk. Everything OK now. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org