Re: wireless adapter recommendation

2007-05-27 Thread Wackojacko

Default User wrote:

Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these
conditons: 


1) Use in 2004 Toshiba Satellite M35X-S109. Has USB ports, Cardbus slot.
Does not have mini-pci-E space/slot, (whaterver that is, it must be
something new they have these days). Does not have built-in wireless. 

2) run Debian Etch '486 (will later upgrade to Debian testing). 


3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to
recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. However
painful to realize, I am wise enough to know that I am just too old to
learn all that. 


3) Should be easily available new (not used ebay, etc) in USA.
Preberably in brick-and-mortar store (Best Buy, Circuit City, OfficeMax,
Office Depot, etc). 


[Or as poor alternative, available by phone/mail/web from reputable US
retail source payable in US dollars (I'm not up to the hassles of
currency exchange and payment method problems with non-US sources, and
do not want to wait months to get it (if ever) and more months to return
it, etc).]

4) USB is preferable, since Cardbus slots may soon be extinct. I would
like to have something that can be used in a future laptop that may by
then only have USB available.

NOTE: Laptops with pre-installed with Ubunty 7.04 use Intel
PRO/wireless 3945 a/g adapters. But preliminary searching seems to
suggest that these are mini-pci-E cards, and the laptop in question
doesn't have that. And I can not afford to buy a new laptop just to get
wireless connectivity. And I really want to use Debian testing rather
than Ubuntu. 

Thank you in advance for your help! 





I used a Edimax Ew-7138ug usb stick which works with the zd1211 module 
in the kernel (1).  There are quite a few others listed on the linux 
wireless site (2) so you should be able to find one near u.


HTH

Wackojacko

(1) http://zd1211.wiki.sourceforge.net/
(2) http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw/devices


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Re: wireless adapter recommendation

2007-05-27 Thread Chris Lale
Default User wrote:
 Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these
 conditons: 
[...]
 3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to
 recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. 

It's so simple these days [1]. Eg to install the Ralink 2500 driver:

1. Build the driver (from the command line as user root):

# aptitude install rt2500-source module-assistant
# m-a prepare
# m-a a-i rt2500-source

2. install the driver:
# modprobe rt2500

3. Then do the rest from Gnome. Set up your interface from Gnome with

Desktop - Administration - Networking
Connections tab - Wireless connection Properties
Interface name wlan0
Enable this connection (tick the box)
Network name (ESSID): (Enter the ESSID of your wireless Access 
Point)
Key type: Plain (hexadecimal)
WEP key: Enter the WEP key configured in your AP setup
Connection settings: DHCP if this is configured on your AP. 
Otherwise Static
(and fill in details).

4. Set up your nameservers
DNS tab - Add

(You can use DNS servers at opendns.com eg 208.67.222.222, or the ones provided
by your ISP.)

5. Activate the wireless interface:
Connections tab - Wireless connection ... wlan0 - Activate

[1]
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_wireless_network_card_using_drivers_from_Debian_packages

Hope that helps,

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Re: wireless adapter recommendation

2007-05-27 Thread Hugh Lawson
Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Default User wrote:
  Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these
  conditons: 
 [...]
  3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to
  recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. 
 
 It's so simple these days [1]. Eg to install the Ralink 2500 driver:
 
 1. Build the driver (from the command line as user root):
 
   # aptitude install rt2500-source module-assistant
   # m-a prepare
   # m-a a-i rt2500-source
 
 2. install the driver:
   # modprobe rt2500

I had the same experience with a TD-Link WN510G.  I'd never used
module-assistant before, but it worked as smoothly as can be.  The
card uses the madwifi module for which there is an iformative web
page.

http://madwifi.org/


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Re: wireless adapter recommendation

2007-05-27 Thread Default User
On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 10:55 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
 Default User wrote:
  Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these
  conditons: 
 [...]
  3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to
  recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. 
 
 It's so simple these days [1]. Eg to install the Ralink 2500 driver:
 
 1. Build the driver (from the command line as user root):
 
   # aptitude install rt2500-source module-assistant
   # m-a prepare
   # m-a a-i rt2500-source
 
 2. install the driver:
   # modprobe rt2500
 
 3. Then do the rest from Gnome. Set up your interface from Gnome with
 
   Desktop - Administration - Networking
   Connections tab - Wireless connection Properties
   Interface name wlan0
   Enable this connection (tick the box)
   Network name (ESSID): (Enter the ESSID of your wireless Access 
 Point)
   Key type: Plain (hexadecimal)
   WEP key: Enter the WEP key configured in your AP setup
   Connection settings: DHCP if this is configured on your AP. 
 Otherwise Static
 (and fill in details).
 
 4. Set up your nameservers
   DNS tab - Add
 
 (You can use DNS servers at opendns.com eg 208.67.222.222, or the ones 
 provided
 by your ISP.)
 
 5. Activate the wireless interface:
   Connections tab - Wireless connection ... wlan0 - Activate
 
 [1]
 http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_wireless_network_card_using_drivers_from_Debian_packages
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 -- 
 Chris.
 
 


Thanks to all for your replies.  

I am trying to set up a Netgear MA111 (v1) usb wireless adapter on a
desktop system, later to set up on a laptop if it works on the desktop
system. 

lsusb says:
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0846:4110 NetGear, Inc. MA111 WiFi (v1)
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 058f:9254 Alcor Micro Corp. Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID :

http://linux-wless.passys.nl says that linux-wlan-ng should work with
this adapter.

I did:
- install module-assistant
- run module-assistant prepare
- run module-assistant auto-install linux-wlan-ng
- reboot

Here is the dmesg output: 
Linux version 2.6.18-4-486 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2)
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian
4.1.1-21)) #1 Wed May 9 22:23:40 UTC 2007
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000e - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 0fff (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0fff - 0fff8000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 0fff8000 - 1000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec01000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee01000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: fffc - 0001 (reserved)
255MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 65520
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:0
  Normal zone: 61424 pages, LIFO batch:15
DMI not present or invalid.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 AMI   ) @ 0x000fb560
ACPI: RSDT (v001 AMIINT  0x MSFT 0x0097) @
0x0fff
ACPI: FADT (v001 AMIINT  0x MSFT 0x0097) @
0x0fff0030
ACPI: DSDT (v001VIAVT498 0x1000 MSFT 0x0107) @
0x
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x5008
Allocating PCI resources starting at 2000 (gap: 1000:eec0)
Detected 334.094 MHz processor.
Built 1 zonelists.  Total pages: 65520
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro 
No local APIC present or hardware disabled
mapped APIC to d000 (01201000)
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 1024 (order: 10, 4096 bytes)
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Memory: 252368k/262080k available (1502k kernel code, 9136k reserved,
601k data, 256k init, 0k highmem)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode...
Ok.
Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 669.00 BogoMIPS
(lpj=1338011)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
SELinux:  Disabled at boot.
Capability LSM initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 008021bf 808029bf  
  
CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 008021bf 808029bf  
  
CPU: L1 I Cache: 32K (32 bytes/line), D cache 32K (32 bytes/line)
CPU: After all inits, caps: 008021bf 808029bf  0002 
 
Compat vDSO mapped to e000.
CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor stepping 0c
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
ACPI: Core revision 20060707
ACPI: setting ELCR to 0008 (from 0e08)
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Freeing initrd memory: 4266k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
EISA bus registered
ACPI: bus type pci registered
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb31, 

Re: wireless adapter recommendation

2007-05-27 Thread Wayne Topa
Default User([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:

--snip--

 Thanks to all for your replies.  
 
 I am trying to set up a Netgear MA111 (v1) usb wireless adapter on a
 desktop system, later to set up on a laptop if it works on the desktop
 system. 

Sorry but I have to ask as you did not mention what you have done to
get ready to install the software.

Did you do 

aptitude install linux-wlan-ng linux-wlan-ng-source linux-wlan-ng-firmware
and most important linux-wlan-ng-doc

then did you read the file
/usr/share/doc/linux-wlan-ng/firmware/NEWS.Debian.gz
or do 
man  linux-wlan-ng-build-firmware-deb

if you did the above then, while connected to the net, did you execute
the file mentioned there that downloads the necessary firmware files from
the the linux-wlan.org site?

Did you read the docs in /usr/share/linux-wlan-ng?

Then if the answer to all of the above, did you look at the config
files in /etc/wlan and edit, if necessary, the wlan.conf file?

 
 lsusb says:
 Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0846:4110 NetGear, Inc. MA111 WiFi (v1)
 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 058f:9254 Alcor Micro Corp. Hub
 Bus 001 Device 001: ID :
 
 http://linux-wless.passys.nl says that linux-wlan-ng should work with
 this adapter.

http://www.linux-wlan.org also says that the MA111 works with
linux-wlan-ng.

NOTE:  Prior to running module-assistant, you must have a kernel
source file and a kernel headers file installed.

ie in my case

VT1 root-3-TESTING:# dpkg -l linux-source* linux-header* |grep ^i
ii  linux-headers-2.6.18-4 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12 Common header files 
for Linux 2.6.18
ii  linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7  2.6.18.dfsg.1-12 Header files for 
Linux 2.6.18 on AMD K7
ii  linux-source-2.6.182.6.18.dfsg.1-12 Linux kernel source 
for version 2.6.18 with


 I did:
 - install module-assistant
 - run module-assistant prepare
 - run module-assistant auto-install linux-wlan-ng
 - reboot
When you run m-a it compiles the software and creates .deb files.
Make sure that they are then installed, either by m-a or by you.
The linux-wlan-*.deb files will be in the /usr/src directory.

After running m-a and installing all of the packages I get

ii  linux-wlan-ng  0.2.7+dfsg-2   utilities for wireless 
prism2 cards
ii  linux-wlan-ng-firmware 0.2.7+dfsg-2   firmware files used by 
the linux-wlan-ng dri
ii  linux-wlan-ng-firmware-files   0.2.7+dfsg-2   firmware files used by 
the linux-wlan-ng dri
ii  linux-wlan-ng-modules-2.6.18t400.2.7+dfsg-2   drivers for wireless 
prism2 cards
ii  linux-wlan-ng-source   0.2.7+dfsg-2   linux-wlan-ng driver

As this is linux.  There is no need to reboot.

Oh, have you installed the dhcp3-client package?  You need that for
DHCP.

--snip--
removed dmesg listing
 
 (NOTE: eth0 is a wired pci card connection, works fine, uses tulip
 driver).  
 
 Notice from dmesg these lines: 
 prism2usb_init: prism2_usb.o: 0.2.5 Loaded
 prism2usb_init: dev_info is: prism2_usb
 usbcore: registered new driver prism2_usb

I do not see the wlan entry in the ifconfig output.  There should be 
scripts in /etc/network/if.up.d and post-down.d that start/stop the
device as soon as it is plugged in or ifup/ifdown wlan are executed.
They depend on a file you have to create in /etc/wlan.  

Here is what I see when the USB adapter is up

#iwconfig
lono wireless extensions.

sit0  no wireless extensions.

wlan0 IEEE 802.11-b  ESSID:Mtntop_AP  Nickname:Mtntop_AP
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: 00:0F:B5:11:37:1F
  Bit Rate:11 Mb/s   Tx-Power:18 dBm
  Retry min limit:8   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Encryption key:off
  Link Quality=25/92  Signal level=-65 dBm  Noise level=-90 dBm
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
# ifconfig
loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:280 (280.0 b)  TX bytes:280 (280.0 b)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0A:E9:09:02:27
  inet addr:192.168.1.9  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::20a:e9ff:fe09:227/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:73 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:64 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:13163 (12.8 KiB)  TX bytes:11254 (10.9 KiB)

and my /etc/network/interfaces file is

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback 

wireless adapter recommendation

2007-05-26 Thread Default User
Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these
conditons: 

1) Use in 2004 Toshiba Satellite M35X-S109. Has USB ports, Cardbus slot.
Does not have mini-pci-E space/slot, (whaterver that is, it must be
something new they have these days). Does not have built-in wireless. 

2) run Debian Etch '486 (will later upgrade to Debian testing). 

3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to
recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. However
painful to realize, I am wise enough to know that I am just too old to
learn all that. 

3) Should be easily available new (not used ebay, etc) in USA.
Preberably in brick-and-mortar store (Best Buy, Circuit City, OfficeMax,
Office Depot, etc). 

[Or as poor alternative, available by phone/mail/web from reputable US
retail source payable in US dollars (I'm not up to the hassles of
currency exchange and payment method problems with non-US sources, and
do not want to wait months to get it (if ever) and more months to return
it, etc).]

4) USB is preferable, since Cardbus slots may soon be extinct. I would
like to have something that can be used in a future laptop that may by
then only have USB available.

NOTE: Laptops with pre-installed with Ubunty 7.04 use Intel
PRO/wireless 3945 a/g adapters. But preliminary searching seems to
suggest that these are mini-pci-E cards, and the laptop in question
doesn't have that. And I can not afford to buy a new laptop just to get
wireless connectivity. And I really want to use Debian testing rather
than Ubuntu. 

Thank you in advance for your help! 






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Re: wireless adapter recommendation

2007-05-26 Thread Wayne Topa
Default User([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these
 conditons: 
 
 1) Use in 2004 Toshiba Satellite M35X-S109. Has USB ports, Cardbus slot.
 Does not have mini-pci-E space/slot, (whaterver that is, it must be
 something new they have these days). Does not have built-in wireless. 
 
 2) run Debian Etch '486 (will later upgrade to Debian testing). 
 
 3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to
 recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. However
 painful to realize, I am wise enough to know that I am just too old to
 learn all that. 

That's a break point.  I don't know of _any_ USB or CardBus/pcmcia
wireless adapter that just works out of the box.  The
drivers/firmware must be downloaded, installed and configured.

BUT.

Using this list as a help tool, anyone that can answer questions and
follow directions, can get the right adapter running.

Have you done any searching on google for a USB wireless Adapter that
runs on Linux, in or out of the box.  That would be a good start,
don't you think.  The more you learn the easier it will be for this
list to assist you in getting it to work.

 
 3) Should be easily available new (not used Ebay, etc) in USA.
 Preberably in brick-and-mortar store (Best Buy, Circuit City, OfficeMax,
 Office Depot, etc). 

That's is not a problem.  As I mentioned in a post today I just picked
up a new USB Wireless Adapter on Ebay for  $18 including shipping and
have it running fine on a 90's IBM 200MHz Thinkpad.  After
downloading and installing  the drivers and firmware it took all of 5
minutes to get it working.  The choice is up to you as to where you
buy.

 
 [Or as poor alternative, available by phone/mail/web from reputable US
 retail source payable in US dollars (I'm not up to the hassles of
 currency exchange and payment method problems with non-US sources, and
 do not want to wait months to get it (if ever) and more months to return
 it, etc).]

Same applies to this point.

 4) USB is preferable, since Cardbus slots may soon be extinct. I would
 like to have something that can be used in a future laptop that may by
 then only have USB available.

That might not be to the easiest one.  Some of the USB wireless
adapter drivers are in heavy development.  I have only one of 3 USB
wireless adapters fully functional.  I am not an authority on USB wireless
adapters though. I am still trying to learn.

I don't know how old you are but I will be 69 in November.  I find
doing this kind of 'mental' exercise to be very enjoyable and healthy.

Regards

Wayne

BTW We like to call people by name on the list.  It's nicer than
saying  Please post the output of 'fconfig wlan0' Default.  We are a
friendly group here, most of the time.   :-)


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Re: wireless adapter recommendation

2007-05-26 Thread Gnu_Raiz
All I can say is stay away from anything that requires ndiswrapper, or 
uses window's drivers. No need to support products that do not have 
native drivers.  That being said I would suggest Ralink chipset based 
solutions. They have native linux support, is not hard to setup, and they 
do support the Open Source community.

http://3btech.net/chrart80wius.html
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html#olinks

I have this item installed in an AMD duron laptop with great results. Yes 
you will have to install a module, but like others have posted this is 
common and very few wifi cards run out of the box.  You might be able to 
find this adapter for cheaper, but it seems that they want a premium for 
linux support. I have not had any drops, or problems out of my unit.
The second link is more of a FYI it might be a little outdated, but is 
still valid if you need another card, I would look through the list and 
choose a card on that list.  Also make sure when you buy a card, that you 
know what chipset it uses, as some manufactures use different chipsets 
for the same model. Linksys, and Dlink are really bad for that.

Gnu_Raiz


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