Re: wireless adapter recommendation
Default User wrote: Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these conditons: 1) Use in 2004 Toshiba Satellite M35X-S109. Has USB ports, Cardbus slot. Does not have mini-pci-E space/slot, (whaterver that is, it must be something new they have these days). Does not have built-in wireless. 2) run Debian Etch '486 (will later upgrade to Debian testing). 3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. However painful to realize, I am wise enough to know that I am just too old to learn all that. 3) Should be easily available new (not used ebay, etc) in USA. Preberably in brick-and-mortar store (Best Buy, Circuit City, OfficeMax, Office Depot, etc). [Or as poor alternative, available by phone/mail/web from reputable US retail source payable in US dollars (I'm not up to the hassles of currency exchange and payment method problems with non-US sources, and do not want to wait months to get it (if ever) and more months to return it, etc).] 4) USB is preferable, since Cardbus slots may soon be extinct. I would like to have something that can be used in a future laptop that may by then only have USB available. NOTE: Laptops with pre-installed with Ubunty 7.04 use Intel PRO/wireless 3945 a/g adapters. But preliminary searching seems to suggest that these are mini-pci-E cards, and the laptop in question doesn't have that. And I can not afford to buy a new laptop just to get wireless connectivity. And I really want to use Debian testing rather than Ubuntu. Thank you in advance for your help! I used a Edimax Ew-7138ug usb stick which works with the zd1211 module in the kernel (1). There are quite a few others listed on the linux wireless site (2) so you should be able to find one near u. HTH Wackojacko (1) http://zd1211.wiki.sourceforge.net/ (2) http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw/devices -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless adapter recommendation
Default User wrote: Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these conditons: [...] 3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. It's so simple these days [1]. Eg to install the Ralink 2500 driver: 1. Build the driver (from the command line as user root): # aptitude install rt2500-source module-assistant # m-a prepare # m-a a-i rt2500-source 2. install the driver: # modprobe rt2500 3. Then do the rest from Gnome. Set up your interface from Gnome with Desktop - Administration - Networking Connections tab - Wireless connection Properties Interface name wlan0 Enable this connection (tick the box) Network name (ESSID): (Enter the ESSID of your wireless Access Point) Key type: Plain (hexadecimal) WEP key: Enter the WEP key configured in your AP setup Connection settings: DHCP if this is configured on your AP. Otherwise Static (and fill in details). 4. Set up your nameservers DNS tab - Add (You can use DNS servers at opendns.com eg 208.67.222.222, or the ones provided by your ISP.) 5. Activate the wireless interface: Connections tab - Wireless connection ... wlan0 - Activate [1] http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_wireless_network_card_using_drivers_from_Debian_packages Hope that helps, -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless adapter recommendation
Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Default User wrote: Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these conditons: [...] 3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. It's so simple these days [1]. Eg to install the Ralink 2500 driver: 1. Build the driver (from the command line as user root): # aptitude install rt2500-source module-assistant # m-a prepare # m-a a-i rt2500-source 2. install the driver: # modprobe rt2500 I had the same experience with a TD-Link WN510G. I'd never used module-assistant before, but it worked as smoothly as can be. The card uses the madwifi module for which there is an iformative web page. http://madwifi.org/ -- Hugh Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless adapter recommendation
On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 10:55 +0100, Chris Lale wrote: Default User wrote: Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these conditons: [...] 3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. It's so simple these days [1]. Eg to install the Ralink 2500 driver: 1. Build the driver (from the command line as user root): # aptitude install rt2500-source module-assistant # m-a prepare # m-a a-i rt2500-source 2. install the driver: # modprobe rt2500 3. Then do the rest from Gnome. Set up your interface from Gnome with Desktop - Administration - Networking Connections tab - Wireless connection Properties Interface name wlan0 Enable this connection (tick the box) Network name (ESSID): (Enter the ESSID of your wireless Access Point) Key type: Plain (hexadecimal) WEP key: Enter the WEP key configured in your AP setup Connection settings: DHCP if this is configured on your AP. Otherwise Static (and fill in details). 4. Set up your nameservers DNS tab - Add (You can use DNS servers at opendns.com eg 208.67.222.222, or the ones provided by your ISP.) 5. Activate the wireless interface: Connections tab - Wireless connection ... wlan0 - Activate [1] http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_wireless_network_card_using_drivers_from_Debian_packages Hope that helps, -- Chris. Thanks to all for your replies. I am trying to set up a Netgear MA111 (v1) usb wireless adapter on a desktop system, later to set up on a laptop if it works on the desktop system. lsusb says: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0846:4110 NetGear, Inc. MA111 WiFi (v1) Bus 001 Device 002: ID 058f:9254 Alcor Micro Corp. Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID : http://linux-wless.passys.nl says that linux-wlan-ng should work with this adapter. I did: - install module-assistant - run module-assistant prepare - run module-assistant auto-install linux-wlan-ng - reboot Here is the dmesg output: Linux version 2.6.18-4-486 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 Wed May 9 22:23:40 UTC 2007 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: - 0009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000e - 0010 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0010 - 0fff (usable) BIOS-e820: 0fff - 0fff8000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 0fff8000 - 1000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: fffc - 0001 (reserved) 255MB LOWMEM available. On node 0 totalpages: 65520 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:0 Normal zone: 61424 pages, LIFO batch:15 DMI not present or invalid. ACPI: RSDP (v000 AMI ) @ 0x000fb560 ACPI: RSDT (v001 AMIINT 0x MSFT 0x0097) @ 0x0fff ACPI: FADT (v001 AMIINT 0x MSFT 0x0097) @ 0x0fff0030 ACPI: DSDT (v001VIAVT498 0x1000 MSFT 0x0107) @ 0x ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x5008 Allocating PCI resources starting at 2000 (gap: 1000:eec0) Detected 334.094 MHz processor. Built 1 zonelists. Total pages: 65520 Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro No local APIC present or hardware disabled mapped APIC to d000 (01201000) Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 1024 (order: 10, 4096 bytes) Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Memory: 252368k/262080k available (1502k kernel code, 9136k reserved, 601k data, 256k init, 0k highmem) Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 669.00 BogoMIPS (lpj=1338011) Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Disabled at boot. Capability LSM initialized Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 CPU: After generic identify, caps: 008021bf 808029bf CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 008021bf 808029bf CPU: L1 I Cache: 32K (32 bytes/line), D cache 32K (32 bytes/line) CPU: After all inits, caps: 008021bf 808029bf 0002 Compat vDSO mapped to e000. CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor stepping 0c Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. ACPI: Core revision 20060707 ACPI: setting ELCR to 0008 (from 0e08) checking if image is initramfs... it is Freeing initrd memory: 4266k freed NET: Registered protocol family 16 EISA bus registered ACPI: bus type pci registered PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb31,
Re: wireless adapter recommendation
Default User([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: --snip-- Thanks to all for your replies. I am trying to set up a Netgear MA111 (v1) usb wireless adapter on a desktop system, later to set up on a laptop if it works on the desktop system. Sorry but I have to ask as you did not mention what you have done to get ready to install the software. Did you do aptitude install linux-wlan-ng linux-wlan-ng-source linux-wlan-ng-firmware and most important linux-wlan-ng-doc then did you read the file /usr/share/doc/linux-wlan-ng/firmware/NEWS.Debian.gz or do man linux-wlan-ng-build-firmware-deb if you did the above then, while connected to the net, did you execute the file mentioned there that downloads the necessary firmware files from the the linux-wlan.org site? Did you read the docs in /usr/share/linux-wlan-ng? Then if the answer to all of the above, did you look at the config files in /etc/wlan and edit, if necessary, the wlan.conf file? lsusb says: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0846:4110 NetGear, Inc. MA111 WiFi (v1) Bus 001 Device 002: ID 058f:9254 Alcor Micro Corp. Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID : http://linux-wless.passys.nl says that linux-wlan-ng should work with this adapter. http://www.linux-wlan.org also says that the MA111 works with linux-wlan-ng. NOTE: Prior to running module-assistant, you must have a kernel source file and a kernel headers file installed. ie in my case VT1 root-3-TESTING:# dpkg -l linux-source* linux-header* |grep ^i ii linux-headers-2.6.18-4 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12 Common header files for Linux 2.6.18 ii linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12 Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD K7 ii linux-source-2.6.182.6.18.dfsg.1-12 Linux kernel source for version 2.6.18 with I did: - install module-assistant - run module-assistant prepare - run module-assistant auto-install linux-wlan-ng - reboot When you run m-a it compiles the software and creates .deb files. Make sure that they are then installed, either by m-a or by you. The linux-wlan-*.deb files will be in the /usr/src directory. After running m-a and installing all of the packages I get ii linux-wlan-ng 0.2.7+dfsg-2 utilities for wireless prism2 cards ii linux-wlan-ng-firmware 0.2.7+dfsg-2 firmware files used by the linux-wlan-ng dri ii linux-wlan-ng-firmware-files 0.2.7+dfsg-2 firmware files used by the linux-wlan-ng dri ii linux-wlan-ng-modules-2.6.18t400.2.7+dfsg-2 drivers for wireless prism2 cards ii linux-wlan-ng-source 0.2.7+dfsg-2 linux-wlan-ng driver As this is linux. There is no need to reboot. Oh, have you installed the dhcp3-client package? You need that for DHCP. --snip-- removed dmesg listing (NOTE: eth0 is a wired pci card connection, works fine, uses tulip driver). Notice from dmesg these lines: prism2usb_init: prism2_usb.o: 0.2.5 Loaded prism2usb_init: dev_info is: prism2_usb usbcore: registered new driver prism2_usb I do not see the wlan entry in the ifconfig output. There should be scripts in /etc/network/if.up.d and post-down.d that start/stop the device as soon as it is plugged in or ifup/ifdown wlan are executed. They depend on a file you have to create in /etc/wlan. Here is what I see when the USB adapter is up #iwconfig lono wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. wlan0 IEEE 802.11-b ESSID:Mtntop_AP Nickname:Mtntop_AP Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:0F:B5:11:37:1F Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Tx-Power:18 dBm Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Link Quality=25/92 Signal level=-65 dBm Noise level=-90 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 # ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:280 (280.0 b) TX bytes:280 (280.0 b) wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0A:E9:09:02:27 inet addr:192.168.1.9 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20a:e9ff:fe09:227/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:73 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:64 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:13163 (12.8 KiB) TX bytes:11254 (10.9 KiB) and my /etc/network/interfaces file is # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback
wireless adapter recommendation
Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these conditons: 1) Use in 2004 Toshiba Satellite M35X-S109. Has USB ports, Cardbus slot. Does not have mini-pci-E space/slot, (whaterver that is, it must be something new they have these days). Does not have built-in wireless. 2) run Debian Etch '486 (will later upgrade to Debian testing). 3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. However painful to realize, I am wise enough to know that I am just too old to learn all that. 3) Should be easily available new (not used ebay, etc) in USA. Preberably in brick-and-mortar store (Best Buy, Circuit City, OfficeMax, Office Depot, etc). [Or as poor alternative, available by phone/mail/web from reputable US retail source payable in US dollars (I'm not up to the hassles of currency exchange and payment method problems with non-US sources, and do not want to wait months to get it (if ever) and more months to return it, etc).] 4) USB is preferable, since Cardbus slots may soon be extinct. I would like to have something that can be used in a future laptop that may by then only have USB available. NOTE: Laptops with pre-installed with Ubunty 7.04 use Intel PRO/wireless 3945 a/g adapters. But preliminary searching seems to suggest that these are mini-pci-E cards, and the laptop in question doesn't have that. And I can not afford to buy a new laptop just to get wireless connectivity. And I really want to use Debian testing rather than Ubuntu. Thank you in advance for your help! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless adapter recommendation
Default User([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Would anyone please recommend a suitable wireless adapter for these conditons: 1) Use in 2004 Toshiba Satellite M35X-S109. Has USB ports, Cardbus slot. Does not have mini-pci-E space/slot, (whaterver that is, it must be something new they have these days). Does not have built-in wireless. 2) run Debian Etch '486 (will later upgrade to Debian testing). 3) Should work out of the box, with out having to try to learn how to recompile the kernel or insert modules or ndiswrapper, etc. However painful to realize, I am wise enough to know that I am just too old to learn all that. That's a break point. I don't know of _any_ USB or CardBus/pcmcia wireless adapter that just works out of the box. The drivers/firmware must be downloaded, installed and configured. BUT. Using this list as a help tool, anyone that can answer questions and follow directions, can get the right adapter running. Have you done any searching on google for a USB wireless Adapter that runs on Linux, in or out of the box. That would be a good start, don't you think. The more you learn the easier it will be for this list to assist you in getting it to work. 3) Should be easily available new (not used Ebay, etc) in USA. Preberably in brick-and-mortar store (Best Buy, Circuit City, OfficeMax, Office Depot, etc). That's is not a problem. As I mentioned in a post today I just picked up a new USB Wireless Adapter on Ebay for $18 including shipping and have it running fine on a 90's IBM 200MHz Thinkpad. After downloading and installing the drivers and firmware it took all of 5 minutes to get it working. The choice is up to you as to where you buy. [Or as poor alternative, available by phone/mail/web from reputable US retail source payable in US dollars (I'm not up to the hassles of currency exchange and payment method problems with non-US sources, and do not want to wait months to get it (if ever) and more months to return it, etc).] Same applies to this point. 4) USB is preferable, since Cardbus slots may soon be extinct. I would like to have something that can be used in a future laptop that may by then only have USB available. That might not be to the easiest one. Some of the USB wireless adapter drivers are in heavy development. I have only one of 3 USB wireless adapters fully functional. I am not an authority on USB wireless adapters though. I am still trying to learn. I don't know how old you are but I will be 69 in November. I find doing this kind of 'mental' exercise to be very enjoyable and healthy. Regards Wayne BTW We like to call people by name on the list. It's nicer than saying Please post the output of 'fconfig wlan0' Default. We are a friendly group here, most of the time. :-) -- C, n.: A programming language that is sort of like Pascal except more like assembly except that it isn't very much like either one, or anything else. It is either the best language available to the art today, or it isn't. -- Ray Simard ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless adapter recommendation
All I can say is stay away from anything that requires ndiswrapper, or uses window's drivers. No need to support products that do not have native drivers. That being said I would suggest Ralink chipset based solutions. They have native linux support, is not hard to setup, and they do support the Open Source community. http://3btech.net/chrart80wius.html http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html#olinks I have this item installed in an AMD duron laptop with great results. Yes you will have to install a module, but like others have posted this is common and very few wifi cards run out of the box. You might be able to find this adapter for cheaper, but it seems that they want a premium for linux support. I have not had any drops, or problems out of my unit. The second link is more of a FYI it might be a little outdated, but is still valid if you need another card, I would look through the list and choose a card on that list. Also make sure when you buy a card, that you know what chipset it uses, as some manufactures use different chipsets for the same model. Linksys, and Dlink are really bad for that. Gnu_Raiz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]