Re: xdm replacement?
Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, kdm actually does offer a nice piece of functionality that xdm doesn't. It allows you to choose an X session at login (kde, window maker, afterstep, etc), by providing a combo box that lets you choose the parameter that gets passed to the Xsession script. This exactly the main problem I have with the KDE project and it remains to be seen whether GNOME will do it better. This isn't exactly rocket science. It has been done before. CDE's dtlogin can do it, f.i.. Same for pictures, IRIX has done that for ages. It would have been a lot nicer if this could have been included in the original xdm. Same holds for several other apps that have been KDEifed. Somehow moving from xbla to kbla always induces a fork so that functionality relatively independent of any real KDE features does not migrate (easily) to the original. Jan
xdm replacement?
As a newbie, I guess I have reached the level of comfort with Debian that now I want better, fast etc... Anyway, is there a replacement for xdm. I know about kdm but I want to use windowmaker so I don't want to take up all the space with kdebase and libs and support... Can I use kdm without all that or is there something else I can use instead of xdm? Rod I'm searching for the answers and I need a clue, but my minds so confused, now what do I do!!! - CroMags 'We gotta Know'
Re: xdm replacement?
As a newbie, I guess I have reached the level of comfort with Debian that now I want better, fast etc... Anyway, is there a replacement for xdm. I know about kdm but I want to use windowmaker so I don't want to take up all the space with kdebase and libs and support... Can I use kdm without all that or is there something else I can use instead of xdm? Excuse my ignorance, but isn't xdm that program you need during the twenty seconds it takes to log in? What does kdm do that would make a person so much happier during that event? Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Re: xdm replacement?
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 09:08:49AM -0400, Person, Rod wrote: As a newbie, I guess I have reached the level of comfort with Debian that now I want better, fast etc... Anyway, is there a replacement for xdm. I know about kdm but I want to use windowmaker so I don't want to take up all the space with kdebase and libs and support... hmm What specifically do you dislike about XDM? While I don't use XDM (except when I am playing with making Network Booting X Terminals out of PCs), I kind of like it...it works.. Though...I would like to Beautify it Can I use kdm without all that or is there something else I can use instead of xdm? I dunno about KDM... I have never used any kde stuff at all. I have only seen Screenshots of it. I do kind of like the idea of kde (I really like CDE afterall)...if it only LOOKED more like CDE (not a fan of its flashier graphics) of course...this doesn't go into the licence issues... at a minimum you will probbaly need qt to use kdm. Personally I would just configure and beautify XDM rather then switch... I think it looks fine. -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
Re: xdm replacement?
According to Person, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As a newbie, I guess I have reached the level of comfort with Debian that now I want better, fast etc... Anyway, is there a replacement for xdm. I know about kdm but I want to use windowmaker so I don't want to take up all the space with kdebase and libs and support... Have you tried xdm3d? It's just a simple extension to xdm, but looks really nice. You have to compile it yourself, though. Then I installed xbanner, which is very nice, too. Bye, Andy. -- Andy Spiegl, University of Technology, Muenchen, Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.spiegl.de Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for my PGP key o _ _ _ - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ ~~~
Re: xdm replacement?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but isn't xdm that program you need during the twenty seconds it takes to log in? What does kdm do that would make a person so much happier during that event? Well, kdm actually does offer a nice piece of functionality that xdm doesn't. It allows you to choose an X session at login (kde, window maker, afterstep, etc), by providing a combo box that lets you choose the parameter that gets passed to the Xsession script. By modifying your script a little, you can do some fun stuff. Otherwise, there's not really much point in using kdm versus xdm, unless for some reason you really think xdm is horribly ugly and the worst piece of software ever written... noah PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCUAwUBNhzPw4dCcpBjGWoFAQHLbgP4sBfqoYwWwndtwdfXS9RUA5UXXmoHVDTe JHrY1ODxLIeMqJHTyfuqt8IRb9RrP1n8567FcI86AihYVNhY+JN3ZR02SFkGbOjY o/9ftROvmuRSTQRGRLHp9DgDzsm2qID9QKYCpZgYO0a91XX9XMB/1It1UsLaVDUy aox4eiWdww== =HqBf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: xdm replacement?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Person, Rod wrote: Anyway, is there a replacement for xdm. I know about kdm but I want to use windowmaker so I don't want to take up all the space with kdebase and libs and support... Aside from kdm, I don't know of a real replacement for xdm, but this website (http://torment.ntr.net/xdm/) can show you how to make xdm not look like xdm. noah PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNhzQs4dCcpBjGWoFAQFSHwQAmYJ+Fifkks3AmmvmuJP4CqbmDZ3D2VF3 MvArKkuJ/D2Ix+qZWO6G7CMbTZ4Alv/eSNH5sByIlRFx5tpP7SBICY0Y81l2RNTN tE+ZaKZWDfqkkvL3fWaXxeJY7Z2n8H4rsVRmlOt05foEKKeifZbpiNNBrYvRZbDl 6TKI5Kzy+Bc= =vHER -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: xdm replacement?
Person, Rod wrote: Anyway, is there a replacement for xdm. I know about kdm but I want to use windowmaker so I don't want to take up all the space with kdebase and libs and support... Can I use kdm without all that or is there something else I can use instead of xdm? Perhaps you should take a look at wdm, which is an xdm replacement with a NeXT-alike look and feel. This should go perfectly with Window Maker. I haven't tried it out myself yet, though. You can find the Debian package in slink (and perhaps in hamm?). -- /'`\ zzzZ | My PGP Public Key is available at: ( - - ) | http://home1.inet.tele.dk/renehl/ --oooO--(_)--Oooo-- Don't ya just hate it when there's not enough room to fin
Re: xdm replacement?
Anyway, is there a replacement for xdm. I know about kdm but I want to use windowmaker so I don't want to take up all the space with kdebase and libs and support... Can I use kdm without all that or is there something else I can use instead of xdm? Perhaps you should take a look at wdm, which is an xdm replacement with a NeXT-alike look and feel. This should go perfectly with Window Maker. I haven't tried it out myself yet, though. You can find the Debian package in slink (and perhaps in hamm?). I use wdm, and it's very nice. Once you've installed the package (from slink), it will put a new line in your /etc/X11/config file. You'll need to change it as follows: start-xdm becomes no-start-xdm no-start-wdm becomes start-wdm The easiest way to restart it from there is to (heavens, no!) reboot. I don't keep my machine on all the time, so this is easiest for me. Others might have a safer solution. hope that helps, Joe
Re: xdm replacement?
joseph evan porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The easiest way to restart it from there is to (heavens, no!) reboot. I don't keep my machine on all the time, so this is easiest for me. Others might have a safer solution. Try '/etc/init.d/wdm start' (if xdm is running, you should do '/etc/init.d/xdm stop' before). I think wdm looks great; it has the same functionality as kdm. Greetings, joachim
Re: xdm replacement?
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 02:13:24PM -0400, joseph evan porter wrote: Anyway, is there a replacement for xdm. I know about kdm but I want to use windowmaker so I don't want to take up all the space with kdebase and libs and support... Can I use kdm without all that or is there something else I can use instead of xdm? Perhaps you should take a look at wdm, which is an xdm replacement with a NeXT-alike look and feel. This should go perfectly with Window Maker. I haven't tried it out myself yet, though. You can find the Debian package in slink (and perhaps in hamm?). I use wdm, and it's very nice. Once you've installed the package (from slink), it will put a new line in your /etc/X11/config file. You'll need to change it as follows: start-xdm becomes no-start-xdm no-start-wdm becomes start-wdm The easiest way to restart it from there is to (heavens, no!) reboot. I don't keep my machine on all the time, so this is easiest for me. Others might have a safer solution. Ack! I hate to reboot ...my machines stay up 24-7 and only go down to switch between development and stable kernels when I feel I need to (not often) telinit 1 to go down to single user mode... telinit 2 to return personally I prefer the redhat method... just set it to run at runlevel 5 ONLY then... telinit 5 (and edit inittab to default to 5) -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
