Re: xfce install
Greg Wooledge (12022-12-24): > 2) export LC_ALL=C I have considered suggesting this, but some locales are required for programs to work correctly (LC_CTYPE), and some other locales might be the cause for the issue and disabling them would make debugging harder. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: xfce install
Greg Wooledge schreef op 24-12-2022 om 18:50: On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:21:44PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, December 24, 2022 09:44:49 AM Nicolas George wrote: Before asking for help about a command-line, type: unset LC_ALL export LC_MESSAGES=C … and re-run the command. That sounds like good advice, but then the "user" (the person asking for help) needs to know how to restore his system, so instructions should be included to do that. "Afterward, simply exit from this terminal." None of these changes are permanent. An even simpler set of instructions would be: 1) Open a new terminal, or run a new instance of your shell. 2) export LC_ALL=C 3) Run your comands. Paste the commands and their results into the body of your email. 4) Exit from this shell/terminal. Thank you greg and others for your expert answers. as a kind of christmas present i got xfce4 going again! going this morning! steef
Re: xfce install
On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:21:44PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, December 24, 2022 09:44:49 AM Nicolas George wrote: > > Before asking for help about a command-line, type: > > > > unset LC_ALL > > export LC_MESSAGES=C > > > > … and re-run the command. > > That sounds like good advice, but then the "user" (the person asking for > help) > needs to know how to restore his system, so instructions should be included > to > do that. "Afterward, simply exit from this terminal." None of these changes are permanent. An even simpler set of instructions would be: 1) Open a new terminal, or run a new instance of your shell. 2) export LC_ALL=C 3) Run your comands. Paste the commands and their results into the body of your email. 4) Exit from this shell/terminal.
Re: xfce install
On Saturday, December 24, 2022 09:44:49 AM Nicolas George wrote: > Before asking for help about a command-line, type: > > unset LC_ALL > export LC_MESSAGES=C > > … and re-run the command. That sounds like good advice, but then the "user" (the person asking for help) needs to know how to restore his system, so instructions should be included to do that. (So if that is put in an FAQ, it should include the instructions to save and later restore his original settings. Presumably before the unset LC-ALL, a command should be run to find out the current "LC" settings, save them, and then restore them. -- rhk (sig revised 20221206) If you reply: snip, snip, and snip again; leave attributions; avoid HTML; avoid top posting; and keep it "on list". (Oxford comma (and semi-colon) included at no charge.) If you revise the topic, change the Subject: line. If you change the topic, start a new thread. Writing is often meant for others to read and understand (legal documents excepted?) -- make it easier for your reader by various means, including liberal use of whitespace (short paragraphs, separated by whitespace / blank lines) and minimal use of (obscure?) jargon, abbreviations, acronyms, and references. If someone has already responded to a question, decide whether any response you add will be helpful or not ... A picture is worth a thousand words. A video (or "audio"): not so much -- divide by 10 for each minute of video (or audio) or create a transcript and edit it to 10% of the original. A speaker who uses ahhs, ums, or such may have a real physical or mental disability, or may be showing disrespect for his listeners by not properly preparing in advance and thinking before speaking. (Remember Cicero who did not have enough time to write a short missive.) (That speaker might have been "trained" to do this by being interrupted often if he pauses.) A radio (or TV) station which broadcasts speakers with high pitched voices (or very low pitched / gravelly voices) (which older people might not be able to hear properly) disrespects its listeners. Likewise if it broadcasts extraneous or disturbing sounds (like gunfire or crying), or broadcasts speakers using their native language (with or without an overdubbed translation). A person who writes a sig this long probably has issues and disrespects (and offends) a large number of readers. ;-) '
Re: xfce install
Greg Wooledge (12022-12-24): > Neither of these cases matches the OP's error text, so it's entirely > unclear what command the OP actually ran, or what it did, or failed to do. It could be a translation back to English. Which brings me to another piece of advice: Before asking for help about a command-line, type: unset LC_ALL export LC_MESSAGES=C … and re-run the command. > However, I agree with the earlier suggestion that the sources.list file > is the best starting point. Always when asking for help about anything related to apt, of course, you are right. Maybe material for the FAQ? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: xfce install
On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 03:11:05PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > steef van duin (12022-12-24): > > i am wrestling with a fresh 11.6-black-screen installation to get a > > xfce-desktop going. > > > > allthough I think I used from the commandline the most appropriate commands > > by apt i keep gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4' when i do btw sudo > > apt-get install xfce4. > > anhybody a solution for this? > > When you ask for help about a command that failed, you do not make a > sentence to explain, you copy-paste the command (including the shell > prompt) and its output. This is especially true when the quoted error text is *clearly* made up. unicorn:~$ sudo apt-get install sdfhskdf Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package sdfhskdf unicorn:~$ sdfhskdf bash: sdfhskdf: command not found Neither of these cases matches the OP's error text, so it's entirely unclear what command the OP actually ran, or what it did, or failed to do. However, I agree with the earlier suggestion that the sources.list file is the best starting point.
Re: xfce install
steef van duin (12022-12-24): > i am wrestling with a fresh 11.6-black-screen installation to get a > xfce-desktop going. > > allthough I think I used from the commandline the most appropriate commands > by apt i keep gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4' when i do btw sudo > apt-get install xfce4. > anhybody a solution for this? When you ask for help about a command that failed, you do not make a sentence to explain, you copy-paste the command (including the shell prompt) and its output. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: xfce install
On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 14:24:03 +0100 steef van duin wrote: Hello steef, >gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4' when i You don't say what installation medium you used or what method of installation, but if you used either CD or DVD it might be that you still have the installation disk(s) set as repository, and not an online repo. If that's the case, it is possible that xfce may not be available to you. For a start, check /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* to find out what repos you're using. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Now would I say something that wasn't true? Would I Lie To You - Eurythmics pgpjVc7aoNUN3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: xfce install
On 12/24/22 05:24, steef van duin wrote: hi folks i am wrestling with a fresh 11.6-black-screen installation to get a xfce-desktop going. allthough I think I used from the commandline the most appropriate commands by apt i keep gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4' when i do btw sudo apt-get install xfce4. I do not have Sudo enabled, however when I run as root (su -) apt install xfce4 works for me anhybody a solution for this? kind regarfs and thanks, steef groningen
xfce install
hi folks i am wrestling with a fresh 11.6-black-screen installation to get a xfce-desktop going. allthough I think I used from the commandline the most appropriate commands by apt i keep gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4' when i do btw sudo apt-get install xfce4. anhybody a solution for this? kind regarfs and thanks, steef groningen
Just finished Squeeze XFCE install, no Debian menu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. Just finished a fresh Squeeze install, xfce as the main manager. Well, I've used xfce before, along with lots of others in Debian because it's so bloody easy to have more than one. There has always been a Debian entry in the main xfce menu, that led to everything and everything that's installed. But this time I don't see one. If I have to add it myself, where is the root of the Debian generic menu tree? Curt- - -- Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBS+B1Ki9Y35yItIgBAQJSEwf/WOw+P2eze83W+Hkc9Zah8AAhhdJYKWGg dtmmejGuzYEp3yKFaqb9QoJyZaEt6udzh6SG2v+Rexgy8om8mBS76Wu09LWBZPB1 plQVDi/zsklmMp8hzhaH+rF0zOI/w72s22jvNM1HAZGelFUit2BCzIrDHF34fg3S /Mht8+pHXYrRa3giUN2KevMQ/eFSaoO7HMuIBqr72IaEKkX+Dx444mqD4cXCzYGT xOCaVJySbpWzcnh8JRVM5nHsdgpqEbLHWy4i4rJGHxunXdBFub+MA+0Hr7Y1q4Kc RBAvBVZ3PPZUh5BkgzRnFtRqCosYsyj9SdE2msOd1PDtVW3XCpDzOA== =5Tby -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201005041527.38193.howl...@priss.com
Re: Just finished Squeeze XFCE install, no Debian menu
On 05/04/2010 03:27 PM, Curt Howland wrote: Hi. Just finished a fresh Squeeze install, xfce as the main manager. Well, I've used xfce before, along with lots of others in Debian because it's so bloody easy to have more than one. There has always been a Debian entry in the main xfce menu, that led to everything and everything that's installed. But this time I don't see one. If I have to add it myself, where is the root of the Debian generic menu tree? See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489441 DW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4be08649.1030...@sbcglobal.net