Re: xfce install

2022-12-26 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12022-12-24):
> 2) export LC_ALL=C

I have considered suggesting this, but some locales are required for
programs to work correctly (LC_CTYPE), and some other locales might be
the cause for the issue and disabling them would make debugging harder.

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Re: xfce install

2022-12-25 Thread steef van duin

Greg Wooledge schreef op 24-12-2022 om 18:50:

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:21:44PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, December 24, 2022 09:44:49 AM Nicolas George wrote:

Before asking for help about a command-line, type:

unset LC_ALL
export LC_MESSAGES=C

… and re-run the command.

That sounds like good advice, but then the "user" (the person asking for help)
needs to know how to restore his system, so instructions should be included to
do that.

"Afterward, simply exit from this terminal."  None of these changes are
permanent.

An even simpler set of instructions would be:

1) Open a new terminal, or run a new instance of your shell.

2) export LC_ALL=C

3) Run your comands.  Paste the commands and their results into the body
of your email.

4) Exit from this shell/terminal.




Thank you greg and others for your expert answers. as a kind of christmas 
present i got xfce4 going again! going this morning!

steef



Re: xfce install

2022-12-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:21:44PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, December 24, 2022 09:44:49 AM Nicolas George wrote:
> > Before asking for help about a command-line, type:
> > 
> > unset LC_ALL
> > export LC_MESSAGES=C
> > 
> > … and re-run the command.
> 
> That sounds like good advice, but then the "user" (the person asking for 
> help) 
> needs to know how to restore his system, so instructions should be included 
> to 
> do that.

"Afterward, simply exit from this terminal."  None of these changes are
permanent.

An even simpler set of instructions would be:

1) Open a new terminal, or run a new instance of your shell.

2) export LC_ALL=C

3) Run your comands.  Paste the commands and their results into the body
   of your email.

4) Exit from this shell/terminal.



Re: xfce install

2022-12-24 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, December 24, 2022 09:44:49 AM Nicolas George wrote:
> Before asking for help about a command-line, type:
> 
> unset LC_ALL
> export LC_MESSAGES=C
> 
> … and re-run the command.

That sounds like good advice, but then the "user" (the person asking for help) 
needs to know how to restore his system, so instructions should be included to 
do that.  (So if that is put in an FAQ, it should include the instructions to 
save and later restore his original settings.

Presumably before the unset LC-ALL, a command should be run to find out the 
current "LC" settings, save them, and then restore them.


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Re: xfce install

2022-12-24 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12022-12-24):
> Neither of these cases matches the OP's error text, so it's entirely
> unclear what command the OP actually ran, or what it did, or failed to do.

It could be a translation back to English. Which brings me to another
piece of advice:

Before asking for help about a command-line, type:

unset LC_ALL
export LC_MESSAGES=C

… and re-run the command.

> However, I agree with the earlier suggestion that the sources.list file
> is the best starting point.

Always when asking for help about anything related to apt, of course,
you are right.

Maybe material for the FAQ?

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Re: xfce install

2022-12-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 03:11:05PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> steef van duin (12022-12-24):
> > i am wrestling with a fresh 11.6-black-screen installation to get a 
> > xfce-desktop going.
> > 
> > allthough I think I used from the commandline the most appropriate commands
> > by apt i keep gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4'   when i do btw sudo
> > apt-get install xfce4.
> > anhybody a solution for this?
> 
> When you ask for help about a command that failed, you do not make a
> sentence to explain, you copy-paste the command (including the shell
> prompt) and its output.

This is especially true when the quoted error text is *clearly* made up.

unicorn:~$ sudo apt-get install sdfhskdf
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package sdfhskdf

unicorn:~$ sdfhskdf
bash: sdfhskdf: command not found

Neither of these cases matches the OP's error text, so it's entirely
unclear what command the OP actually ran, or what it did, or failed to do.

However, I agree with the earlier suggestion that the sources.list file
is the best starting point.



Re: xfce install

2022-12-24 Thread Nicolas George
steef van duin (12022-12-24):
> i am wrestling with a fresh 11.6-black-screen installation to get a 
> xfce-desktop going.
> 
> allthough I think I used from the commandline the most appropriate commands
> by apt i keep gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4'   when i do btw sudo
> apt-get install xfce4.
> anhybody a solution for this?

When you ask for help about a command that failed, you do not make a
sentence to explain, you copy-paste the command (including the shell
prompt) and its output.

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Re: xfce install

2022-12-24 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 14:24:03 +0100
steef van duin  wrote:

Hello steef,

>gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4'   when i 

You don't say what installation medium you used or what method of
installation, but if you used either CD or DVD it might be that you still
have the installation disk(s) set as repository, and not an online repo.
If that's the case, it is possible that xfce may not be available to you.

For a start, check /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
to find out what repos you're using.  

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Re: xfce install

2022-12-24 Thread Peter Ehlert


On 12/24/22 05:24, steef van duin wrote:

hi folks
i am wrestling with a fresh 11.6-black-screen installation to get  a 
xfce-desktop going.


allthough I think I used from the commandline the most appropriate 
commands by apt i keep gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4'   
when i do btw sudo apt-get install xfce4.



I do not have Sudo enabled, however when I run as root (su -)

apt install xfce4

works for me


anhybody a solution for this?

kind regarfs and thanks,

steef

groningen

xfce install

2022-12-24 Thread steef van duin

hi folks
i am wrestling with a fresh 11.6-black-screen installation to get a 
xfce-desktop going.

allthough I think I used from the commandline the most appropriate commands by apt i keep gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4'   when i 
do btw sudo apt-get install xfce4.

anhybody a solution for this?

kind regarfs and thanks,

steef

groningen


Just finished Squeeze XFCE install, no Debian menu

2010-05-04 Thread Curt Howland
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Hi. Just finished a fresh Squeeze install, xfce as the main manager.

Well, I've used xfce before, along with lots of others in Debian 
because it's so bloody easy to have more than one. There has always 
been a Debian entry in the main xfce menu, that led to everything 
and everything that's installed.

But this time I don't see one.

If I have to add it myself, where is the root of the Debian generic 
menu tree?

Curt-

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Re: Just finished Squeeze XFCE install, no Debian menu

2010-05-04 Thread Dave Witbrodt

On 05/04/2010 03:27 PM, Curt Howland wrote:

Hi. Just finished a fresh Squeeze install, xfce as the main manager.

Well, I've used xfce before, along with lots of others in Debian
because it's so bloody easy to have more than one. There has always
been a Debian entry in the main xfce menu, that led to everything
and everything that's installed.

But this time I don't see one.

If I have to add it myself, where is the root of the Debian generic
menu tree?


See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489441


DW


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