Re: your or redhat?
Ken Gray wrote: thanks for the break down. i think ill get them all! ;) i just saw a place up here were i can get redhat suse debian and slacker +snapshots for $12 Be warned that only Debian can possibly be the Official CDs (complete distribution). RedHat, SuSe and Slackware include non-free software; the $12 offer certainly does not include such s/w. But they should be useful anyway. Also, you should check if RedHat is 5.1 and Debian is 2.0. RedHat 5.0 had too many bugs and Debian 1.3.x wasn't glibc-based -- believe me, that's important. i love socialism! I'm probably being picky, but Linux in particular and the GNU project in general have nothing to do with Socialism. If you're curious about what's that all about, read the Philosophy pages at http://www.gnu.org./, remembering the Linux kernel and much s/w included in GNU/Linux distributions comes from the GNU project and/or is covered by the GNU GPL license. One correction: Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: The window system is standard: X, that is, the X Window System. ^ ^^^ Good luck! -- Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra http://www.lge.com.br./ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terravista.pt./Enseada/1989/ BRASIL _ Campanha da fita ASCII - contra correio HTML vcards X ASCII ribbon campaign - against HTML email vcards / \ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: your or redhat?
Few days ago I had a chance to compare redhat against debian. I had installed Debian 1.3 from CD on tiny configuration: ROM=4M, HD=120M, Monochroom Hercules, Cyrix 486DX, 50Mh. A friend of mine tried to do the same job with RH5.1 but was unable to install due to the lack of disk space, ROM size ... However, the instalation of basic system of debian was done on another PC. Might be this was a reason of such story? Regards, Eugene On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Alexander wrote: im concidering putting linux on my system at home (who am i kiding? i will be putting linux on my system) but im kind of lost between the outdated info in various sources on which dist is going to help me. this is what i need: 1 easy installation (i.e. auto recognition) 2 robust/easy to use graphical enviroment such as in os2 what i need to know from you is why should i get your product instead of Redhat 5.1? thanks for the help ken Eugene Sevinian CRD, YerPhI, 375036, Armenia URL: http://crdlx5.yerphi.am/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-344873 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: your or redhat?
Ken Gray wrote: 1 easy installation (i.e. auto recognition) No auto recognition for ISA in Linux yet... Linus haven't yet seen a good implementation of Prug'n'Pray. PCI works regardless of distribution. RedHat installation is more beautiful, Debian is more informative and flexible. 2 robust/easy to use graphical enviroment such as in os2 The graphical environment in Linux is split. The window manager is standard: the X System. It is far more capable than any other I've seen up to now, but it is certainly the nastier part of the system to install. This also does not depends on the distribution. The GUI is the window manager, of which there is a bewildering variety: AfterStep, fvwm, ICE, OpenWindows, etc. Also not dependent on distribution. Both Debian and RedHat will standardize on the GNOME desktop, bypassing the KDE which depends on proprietary, closed libraries. GNOME isn't yet finished, but it is not really necessary to a hacker or would-be hacker. That said, RedHat has nicer graphical configuration utilities, but Debian has a more robust, bullet-proof, comprehensive installation system (the Apt installer and the *.deb packages). As of now, both distributions are up-to-date: technically (kernel and libc -wise) Debian 2.0 and RedHat 5.1 are at the same level. -- Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra http://www.lge.com.br./ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terravista.pt./Enseada/1989/ BRASIL _ Campanha da fita ASCII - contra correio HTML vcards X ASCII ribbon campaign - against HTML email vcards / \ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: your or redhat?
I tried to install Redhat on an older non-name-brand 486, but it wouldn't see one of my hard drives, so I tried Debian, and have stuck with it. The impression I've gotton from reading mail archives, etc, is that Redhat is easier to get up and running for the newbie, but only because it is more limited than Debian; this limitation also manifests itself later when you want to grow and find out that Redhat isn't as growable as Debian. However, let me remind you, this is not from first-hand experience; just my impression from what I've read. Here's something I found in the mail archives (http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9801/msg00061.html) that you might find interesting. Here is my opinion on the different dist. of Linux that I have used over the years. Caldera Standard: Great if you never need technical support, modifiy your system, or want any documentation that is acurate. Since I do not know of anyone that can say that, I would not recomend it. Red Hat: Good distrubution. Installs easy, has good documentation, is really useable from the first reboot. It's update and packaging system is not very good. I have had a lot of trouble upgrading the system from version to version. Other then that, it works well. Slackware: Installs well, has very good doc's, and works well from the first reboot. It has no upgrade capability, and is difficult to get X to work just the way you want it. Debian: Installs well, has good doc's, and is very easy to modify. The upgrade system works very well with the utilities available. I have upgraded through mager versions with no problems. The only problem is when you get to the first reboot you hav quite a bit of configuration to do to get a really usable system. The upside of that is you have learned a lot from the configuration and will have no trouble in the future modifications. I hope this helps, I have been lucky in the fact that I have had the opertunity to run different dist. side by side for quite a while. That gave me a chance to compare them well. Of course, this is only my opinion. Brian Schramm On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Alexander wrote: im concidering putting linux on my system at home (who am i kiding? i will be putting linux on my system) but im kind of lost between the outdated info in various sources on which dist is going to help me. this is what i need: 1 easy installation (i.e. auto recognition) 2 robust/easy to use graphical enviroment such as in os2 what i need to know from you is why should i get your product instead of Redhat 5.1? thanks for the help ken Eugene Sevinian CRD, YerPhI, 375036, Armenia URL: http://crdlx5.yerphi.am/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-344873 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null === Kent West | Technology Support/Customer Service | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | === -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: your or redhat?
Hi... Um, I've heard Red Hat has better stuff for GUIs and such. Probably what you want. Of course, if you don't like the fact that it's commercial, you can always switch to Debian. :) Alex On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Ken Gray wrote: Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:51:17 -0500 From: Ken Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: your or redhat? Resent-Date: 17 Jul 1998 18:51:57 - Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; im concidering putting linux on my system at home (who am i kiding? i will be putting linux on my system) but im kind of lost between the outdated info in various sources on which dist is going to help me. this is what i need: 1 easy installation (i.e. auto recognition) 2 robust/easy to use graphical enviroment such as in os2 what i need to know from you is why should i get your product instead of Redhat 5.1? thanks for the help ken -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
your or redhat?
im concidering putting linux on my system at home (who am i kiding? i will be putting linux on my system) but im kind of lost between the outdated info in various sources on which dist is going to help me. this is what i need: 1 easy installation (i.e. auto recognition) 2 robust/easy to use graphical enviroment such as in os2 what i need to know from you is why should i get your product instead of Redhat 5.1? thanks for the help ken -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
