Re: HD dead with /usr

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sat, May 11, 2002, Ricardo Fitzgerald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

Fix your system clock.

> Hi,
> 
> One of my Hds went dead, along with my /usr, I still have the apps in
> /var/cache/apt/available, is there a way to recover that /usr or I
> have to reinstall and configure woody again ?

Your options are:

  - Revive the drive.  Depending on how it died, this may or may not be
possible.  You provide no details of the type of failure, so I can't
be any more specific.

  - Restore from your backups.

  - Get a new drive, put a base Debian system on it, update packages
from your current package list, and add your other disks to this
system.  It helps greatly to have /usr and /usr/local seperated in
this instance.  This is my own partitioning recommendation:

http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/partition.html

 Note that the configuration required should be relatively minimal.

Peace.

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DHCP for PCMCIA interface: Being Canonical

[Bruce]

I have a wireless (SMC 2632W) PCMCIA network card on my laptop which runs 
Debian/Sid.

Works great, once up. However, I do have to manually "pump -i wlan0" for it to 
get its address from the friendly neighbourhood DHCP server.

I realize this is a function of the whole PCMCIA/Network issue covered 
competently in the FAQ for pcmcia-cs on Debian systems. However, I guess my 
knowledge does not extend far enough from understanding how things should be 
done in a general sense ('networking options for pcmcia cards should be 
started by the pcmcia scripts, and not the /etc/init.d networking scripts'), 
to what I should be doing to get the card to actually pump itself 
automatically on startup without me having to log into a console, su, and do 
"pump -i wlan0". . 

I could probably hobble together some script to "get this working", without 
too much troble but I know that whatever I come up with will not be the 
canonical solution. 

What is the canonical Debian way to get your pcmcia (wireless) card to fetch 
it's IP from a DHCP server on boot?

B.


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Re: OT network hardware related questions ?

[Shaul Karl]

> can you guys plz tell me any site where i can ask
> network hardware related questions ? questions about
> data transmission lenth, diff network devices ?
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
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but if you don't then you will probably be able to compile for yourself a list 
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Re: fast way to make bootable cd ?

[Tobias Jahn]

On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 11:09:58AM -0700, nate wrote:
> > One way is bblcd: http://www.bablokb.de/bblcd/
> 
> cool! that worked! ...
> 
> thanks!! that program will be very useful i plan to make a bunch
> of bootable cds for servers now that i know how

Great ;-)

It seems that this mailing list is extremely useful to debian users - don't
know why I subscribed myself yesterday and not two years ago... %-)

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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Anthony DeRobertis]

On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 20:33, Alvin Oga wrote:

> if you have a nearly full 80GB disks ... it wont matter
> if you have 1x 80GB or 4x 20GB( stripping )

No, it does matter. You can expect at least one of four 20GB drives to
fail much sooner than one 80GB drive, assuming same MTBF numbers on all
drives.

The MTBF for one 50,000hr MTBF disk is 50,000hr. For four of them, it is
13,500Hr.

[ And, if you operate the four for a year, you can expect 1 to fail. ]

> best best...
>   ===
>   === backup data regularly to DIFFERENT systems ..
>   ===

Or tape. But whatever you do, make sure you:

   1) Test your ability to restore data. Do this regularly. You'd hate
  it if you couldn't.
   2) Verify your backups. Very important for tape.



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Re: Make eth0 be eth1, something like eth0=eth1?

[Anthony DeRobertis]

On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 09:46, AE Roy wrote:

> I'm looking for a way in which I can turn my eth0 into eth1. I've been
> thru all the files in /etc/network but I didn't find what I'm looking for.

I've never used it, but according to the manpage, nameif can do this.

see man 8 nameif.


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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya anthony

yes... good point on MTBF...

- and if the drives gonna fail... i say its more likely to die
  within the first 30 days ... ( some disks more likely to die than
  others irrespective of the MTBF and name-brands..
- i have a pile of "bad/flaky IBM disks" ... 
about 1-5% failure rates (basically not good as one would expect)

- but if one does have 4 drives raid5 and a disk dies..
  thats still recoverable and you're still limping along until you 
  can replace that dead disk and get back to "normal operation"...

- what's the likelyhood of 2 drives that fail ...
rendering the raid subsystem to be just blank disks..
( hopefully one can rest a little better after the first disk
( dies... or is more of the same fate to happen to the rest of
( the disks ...

- i still prefer 1 large disks.. instead of many small ones...

- if the server needs to stay up 24x7 ... than i'd like to have 2 or 3
  servers to be looking like 1 server...

magic...

c ya
alvin


On 10 Jun 2002, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:

> On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 20:33, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> > if you have a nearly full 80GB disks ... it wont matter
> > if you have 1x 80GB or 4x 20GB( stripping )
> 
> No, it does matter. You can expect at least one of four 20GB drives to
> fail much sooner than one 80GB drive, assuming same MTBF numbers on all
> drives.
> 
> The MTBF for one 50,000hr MTBF disk is 50,000hr. For four of them, it is
> 13,500Hr.
> 
> [ And, if you operate the four for a year, you can expect 1 to fail. ]
> 
> > best best...
> > ===
> > === backup data regularly to DIFFERENT systems ..
> > ===
> 
> Or tape. But whatever you do, make sure you:
> 
>1) Test your ability to restore data. Do this regularly. You'd hate
>   it if you couldn't.
>2) Verify your backups. Very important for tape.
> 
> 


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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Anthony DeRobertis]

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 03:46, Alvin Oga wrote:
>
> - and if the drives gonna fail... i say its more likely to die
>   within the first 30 days ... 

Yes. MTBF only measures how likely it is to fail during the middle of
its life.

A good number die early (defective) and late (worn out). Not many die in
the middle. That's what MTBF measures.

I was speaking of the MTBF of RAID-0 where any one disk death means the
whole array is gone. 

>   - what's the likelyhood of 2 drives that fail ...
>   rendering the raid subsystem to be just blank disks..

Not much. Especially if you replace the failed disk promptly, or have a
spare.

>   ( hopefully one can rest a little better after the first disk
>   ( dies... or is more of the same fate to happen to the rest of
>   ( the disks ...

Neither. Unless the failure was due to the environment (e.g., running
disks at 120 degress in a paint can shaker), having one fail makes
others neither more likely nor less likely to fail. 

> 
> - i still prefer 1 large disks.. instead of many small ones...

If you have many small disks and one fails, you are OK, as long as you
used RAID 1 or RAID 4/5. You can replace the one failed disk. 

If your one large disk fails, you're down until you restore from
backups.

> 
> - if the server needs to stay up 24x7 ... than i'd like to have 2 or 3
>   servers to be looking like 1 server...

Yep. This isn't always easy, though.


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Re: Thanks and > questions Was: Upgrade to Woody

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:47:22AM +0100, Paladin wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 01:28:52 +0100
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  First off, deb-make has been obsolete for years. If you want a modern
> >  set of package building helpers, use dh-make and debhelper instead.
> 
> Modern!? Well... I've just tested it... First I tried to use it like I
> used deb-make: ran dh_make, edited some files in the debian dir, compiled
> the source code as I wanted, doing a 'touch build' and, in the end, tried
> to run './debian/rules binary', but that didn't work!

Unfortunately, that's effectively zero information. Sorry, nobody can
help without real error messages.

> So, as a last resourt, I used the good old dpkg-buildpackage, but for
> some reason it broke at the part of documentation. I changed the
> debian/doc file and ran it again, but for my surprise it started ALL
> over again, even from ../configure!!! As far as I remember, with
> deb-make that didn't happen!!

dpkg-buildpackage has always run clean first. If you don't want that,
use -nc.

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Re: Non-Browser Compliance

[Helgi Örn]

On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 02:00, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> 
> Yep.  I remember a while back, there was a big stink because the UK had 
> developed an e-gov gateway that only worked with MSIE running on 
> certain versions of Windows.
I also remember that case from media and a lot of angry voices on the
web too, didn't they fix this in some way?

> 
> Don't know about where you're at,
An Icelander in Sweden... :-)
Both the Icelanders and the Swedes are hopeless when it comes to browser
compliance, they simply don't give a damn, --if you run something else
than IE then that's your problem-- seems to be the most common attitude.
ASP seems to become more and more popular and it does never seem to work
fully in any other browser than IE, though I don't know if the ASP
language is to blame or the programmers.
Good example of a hopeless case is the volvo.com and volvocars.com even
though those pages don't even seem to work in IE either, and this is one
of Swedens biggest and globally best known companys!

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Re: Software work-around for broken BIOS clock?

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 11:39:46AM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> On Friday 07 June 2002 10:55, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> >[...]
> > I doubt whether the dust could have caused it though - it still has
> > the problem after a bit of cleaning.
> 
> Don't say such things. A friend of mine had a failing harddisk... or so 
> he thought. Turned out that the problem was a bunch of dust in the PSU 
> that shorted a bit of the 12V rail. Dust can be fun.
> 
> Anyway, did you try to measure resistance between some parts? Like the 
> battery and the case. Perhaps it's a board stand-off that has shifted 
> and shorts an obscure part of the board?

I have to admit that I haven't measured the resistance (although I have
a multimeter lying around somewhere). What amount of resistance should I
expect on a good system?

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Re: Gentoo ...

[Jeremiah Mahler]

On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 10:11:55AM -0700, robert jorgenson wrote:
> Was wondering if someone would be willing to burn me a gentoo cd and bring it 
> to the meeting on thursday, will reimburse for cd's :) Gentoo is something 
> i've been reading up on and been wanting to try out for a bit now
> 
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Can't afford $0.99 for a cd?

http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/cart.php?ba=pdtl&product=117

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Re: Software work-around for broken BIOS clock?

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 03:07:01AM -0700, ben wrote:
> On Friday 07 June 2002 01:55 am, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 06:28:27PM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote (slightly
> >
> > reformatted):
> > > * Karl E. Jorgensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > Problem: I have a machine that keeps loosing it's CMOS settings.
> > > > Changing battery works - for a couple of weeks.
> > >
> > > Just a guess: your quickly-discharging battery suggests a
> > > high-resistance or intermittent ground somewhere.  Maybe you should
> > > take the box apart (completely) and have a close look?
> >
> > Been there :-) Last time I changed the battery, I had a good look around
> > inside it, but I didn't find anything I didn't expect to. Sherlock
> > Holmes could probably have dated the machine merely based on the
> > thickness of the dust layer.
> >
> > I doubt whether the dust could have caused it though - it still has the
> > problem after a bit of cleaning.
> 
> whether dust or anything else, something just ain't right if you're sucking 
> the life out of a lithium battery every couple of weeks. maybe the battery 
> socket is hosed. 

Yep. Something is definitely wrong with it. But to the naked (and
admittedly not electical-engineer-trained) eye, the hardware looks OK.

> how old is the board? 

Not sure - but it is old. Pre-1994, but without obvious Y2K bugs!?.
Borderline carbon-dateable. The whole box is a salvage job. Yes: I admit
there might have been a reason for its disposal :-)

> if there are jumper pins near the socket, check to see that they're
> intact. make sure that the jumpers are set correctly. 

As far as I remember, there aren't any jumpers in the immediate
vincinity of the battery. I'll have a look. 

> next time you get to pulling a battery, swab the area around the
> contacts with alcohol and let it evaporate before you replace the it.
> those batteries should last for at least half a year.

Cheers. Didn't know about the alcohol trick. It's probably a terrible
waste of snaps though...

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Re: Software work-around for broken BIOS clock?

[Nicos Gollan]

On Monday 10 June 2002 13:21, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:

> I have to admit that I haven't measured the resistance (although I
> have a multimeter lying around somewhere). What amount of resistance
> should I expect on a good system?

Don't know exactly, but if res is low between battery + contact and case 
and/or between battery + and - without battery inserted something could 
be fishy. Haven't checked, though and I'm not too much into 
electronics. It's just that slightly shifted (or suplus) board 
stand-offs can cause anything from small erratic currents up to board 
incineration.

Your friend in measuring could be the diode-check setting if your 
multimeter has one (beep on very low res). If that's going off between 
the measuring points mentioned, the battery is likely shorted.

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Re: Software work-around for broken BIOS clock?

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:35:56PM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
| On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 03:07:01AM -0700, ben wrote:
 
| > next time you get to pulling a battery, swab the area around the
| > contacts with alcohol and let it evaporate before you replace the it.
| > those batteries should last for at least half a year.
| 
| Cheers. Didn't know about the alcohol trick. It's probably a terrible
| waste of snaps though...

Don't use liquor, use "rubbing" alcohol.  (Sorry, I don't recal the
scientific name off the top of my head right now.  I used to know it.)

-D

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Re: Thanks and > questions Was: Upgrade to Woody

[Paladin]

Now the error is:

"dh_installchangelogs: Cannot specify an upstream changelog for a
native debian package."

Before it was something complaining about the docs being included. I
have a directory named faq in the home of source directory that was
being included, so I changed from:

faq:


to only

faq

And it stop complaining...

>  dpkg-buildpackage has always run clean first. If you don't want
>  that, use -nc.

The thing is: I want to compile before using "dh_make -nc"! Then I
just want to make some kind of make install into the debian/tmp
directory and packaging automatically.

P.S. - Sorry if I appeared rude in the last mail, it wasn't the
objective... but you seemed to take it that way... :(

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Re: fsck bus error: 'attempt to access beyond end of device' during boot

[Nicos Gollan]

On Sunday 09 June 2002 22:36, Joost van Baal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [Please Cc me on replies, I'm not subscribed.]
>
> The short summary:  When booting, my box gives up, stating:
>
>  NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
>  attempt to access beyond end of device
>  03:02: rw=0, want=1023464393, limit=48384
>  dev 03:02 blocksize=1024 blocknr= 
>  ...

OK, from what I saw in the kernel source (drivers/block/ll_rw_blk.c, 
line 849):

/* This may well happen - the kernel calls bread()
   without checking the size of the device, e.g.,
   when mounting a device. */
printk(KERN_INFO
"attempt to access beyond end of device\n");
printk(KERN_INFO "%s: rw=%d, want=%ld, limit=%d\n",
kdevname(bh->b_rdev), rw,
(sector + count)>>1, minorsize);

So it could be an error during mounting. Device 03:02 should be hda2, 
your root partition. A failure to mount or properly recognize it would 
also explain all further errors. That's about all I can tell right now, 
but perhaps it helps in further troubleshooting. Anyone?

My shot in the dark: it could be a bad BIOS call that fails to return 
the correct size of the disk or a bad . Perhaps 
post the complete lines that you abbreviated. The "want" number 
indicates that there was a planned access somewhere after 976GB.

Perhaps also make sure you don't need an obscure kernel workaround for 
some strange system component. The BIOSes used for P133 systems are... 
we.. strange.

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Re: SMP working

[Andreas Eichner]

Am Freitag, 7. Juni 2002 16:50 schrieb Robert Webb:
> check for this . I looked in the /proc directory and did a cat of cpu
> but it only showed one processor at 500MHZ.
>
> Am I looking in the wrong place???

No, this is right. A cat /proc/cpuinfo should list "processor 0" and 
"processor 1"

Seems you have to build a new kernel ;-)


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Re: Thanks and > questions Was: Upgrade to Woody

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 01:58:26PM +0100, Paladin wrote:
> "dh_installchangelogs: Cannot specify an upstream changelog for a
> native debian package."

If you didn't intend the package to be native, ensure that you have the
upstream source tarball as foo_1.0.orig.tar.gz in the parent directory,
where foo is the package name and 1.0 is the upstream component of the
version number. Make sure the filename is in that exact format.

> >  dpkg-buildpackage has always run clean first. If you don't want
> >  that, use -nc.
> 
> The thing is: I want to compile before using "dh_make -nc"!

dpkg-buildpackage -nc, not dh_make -nc. That's only for quick testing
though. Are you sure you don't want to compile in the build rule, as
normal?

> P.S. - Sorry if I appeared rude in the last mail, it wasn't the
> objective... but you seemed to take it that way... :(

Not at all, I just like problem reports to have some details in them. :)

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Re: Can I "downgrade" from unstable to woody?

[Patrick Wiseman]

On 9 Jun 2002, Dale Hair wrote:

> On Sat, 2002-06-08 at 10:19, I wrote:
> > 
> > I needed to upgrade from potato, having need of a more recent lib.  So I
> > replaced 'stable' with 'unstable' in sources.list and upgraded.  I really
> > don't need to be on the bleeding edge (although I've had no difficulty
> > with anything so far) and so I'd like to back down to woody.  Can I safely
> > replace 'unstable' with 'woody' or am I stuck in this sort of post-woody
> > situation?
> 
> Create the file /etc/apt/preferences.

[...]

Thanks - that worked, but for a dependency problem with groff which was
solved (as apt-get advised) by apt-get -f install.

Can I now safely remove the preferences file and put 'stable' in my
sources.list in anticipation of woody's becoming stable?

Patrick

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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Ian D. Stewart]

On 2002.06.10 03:35 Anthony DeRobertis wrote:

On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 20:33, Alvin Oga wrote:

> if you have a nearly full 80GB disks ... it wont matter
> if you have 1x 80GB or 4x 20GB( stripping )

No, it does matter. You can expect at least one of four 20GB drives to
fail much sooner than one 80GB drive, assuming same MTBF numbers on
all
drives.

The MTBF for one 50,000hr MTBF disk is 50,000hr. For four of them, it
is
13,500Hr.

[ And, if you operate the four for a year, you can expect 1 to fail. ]


So then, the primary advantages of RAID are access speed and data 
redundancy and the primary advantage of a stand-alone HDD is 
reliability?



Thanx,
Ian


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Kernel upgrade docs

[Andrew Perrin]

I seem to remember a good step-by-step guide to upgrading the kernel under
debian, but can't find it now. I'd like to move to 2.4.18 but am rather
timid about it.

Thanks for any pointers.

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debian/freebsd

[Henning, Brian]

Hello-
I have one hard drive that I want to have freeBSD and debian Linux exist on.
I want freebsd in a primary partition and I want linux and linux swap in the
logical partitions in the extended partition. Every time I try to install
debian, it corrupts my freebsd partition. After that is corrupt I reinstall
freebsd and I it corrupts my debian partition. Does anyone have a duel boot
system with these two operating systems on the same disk? is it not possible
to have debian and freebsd on the same disk?
thanks-
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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Ian D. Stewart]

On 2002.06.10 05:48 Anthony DeRobertis wrote:

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 03:46, Alvin Oga wrote:
>
> - and if the drives gonna fail... i say its more likely to die
>   within the first 30 days ...

Yes. MTBF only measures how likely it is to fail during the middle of
its life.

A good number die early (defective) and late (worn out). Not many die
in
the middle. That's what MTBF measures.

I was speaking of the MTBF of RAID-0 where any one disk death means
the
whole array is gone.

>- what's the likelyhood of 2 drives that fail ...
>rendering the raid subsystem to be just blank disks..

Not much. Especially if you replace the failed disk promptly, or have
a
spare.

>( hopefully one can rest a little better after the first
disk
>( dies... or is more of the same fate to happen to the rest
of
>( the disks ...

Neither. Unless the failure was due to the environment (e.g., running
disks at 120 degress in a paint can shaker), having one fail makes
others neither more likely nor less likely to fail.

>
> - i still prefer 1 large disks.. instead of many small ones...

If you have many small disks and one fails, you are OK, as long as you
used RAID 1 or RAID 4/5. You can replace the one failed disk.

If your one large disk fails, you're down until you restore from
backups.


So, the way I'm reading this, a RAID 5 stack w/ 5 20 GB hard drives 
provides improved access speed and reliability at the cost of slightly 
reduced storage.  An earlier thread was making reference to setting up 
seperate controllers for each HDD.  I have seen adverts for stand-alone 
RAID towers.  Would the use of one of these towers do away with the 
need for seperate controllers, and if so do these towers support IDE or 
just SCSI?


Thanx for all the input.  I'm finding all of this info very interesting!


Ian


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Re: MP3 encoder

[Nikita V. Youshchenko]

> 
> LAME (Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder) is the best encoder for all OSes. It's
> packaged for sid, I think in the non-US section because of Fraunhofer
> patent.

Unoficcial packages are at http://marillat.free.fr/


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Re: Can I "downgrade" from unstable to woody?

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 09:24:47AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> Thanks - that worked, but for a dependency problem with groff which was
> solved (as apt-get advised) by apt-get -f install.

Yeah, that'd be because a few files moved from groff to groff-base after
the most recent version in woody.

> Can I now safely remove the preferences file and put 'stable' in my
> sources.list in anticipation of woody's becoming stable?

There's no rush, and I'd suggest leaving it as 'woody' until woody
actually becomes stable: it doesn't do any harm and will be less
confusing.

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Re: Non-Browser Compliance

[Ian D. Stewart]

On 2002.06.10 06:21 Helgi Örn wrote:

On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 02:00, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
>
> Yep.  I remember a while back, there was a big stink because the UK
had
> developed an e-gov gateway that only worked with MSIE running on
> certain versions of Windows.
I also remember that case from media and a lot of angry voices on the
web too, didn't they fix this in some way?

>
> Don't know about where you're at,
An Icelander in Sweden... :-)


Ah, you are from the Holy Land! (I am an Asatruar).  I should like very 
much to visit your homeland someday, but with the Amaerican economy 
being in the dumps, I don't know when I will get a chance.



Both the Icelanders and the Swedes are hopeless when it comes to
browser
compliance, they simply don't give a damn, --if you run something else
than IE then that's your problem-- seems to be the most common
attitude.
ASP seems to become more and more popular and it does never seem to
work
fully in any other browser than IE, though I don't know if the ASP
language is to blame or the programmers.


ASP itself is merely a framework which supports the embedding of 
programming in web pages, similiar to PHP or HTML::Mason.  Most likely 
programmer error (or worse).



Good example of a hopeless case is the volvo.com and volvocars.com
even
though those pages don't even seem to work in IE either, and this is
one
of Swedens biggest and globally best known companys!


Don't remember if it was mentioned on here or on galeon-user, but 
Mozilla has a tech evangelism category in their bugzilla database.  If 
you specify the URL(s) where you are having problems, someone from 
mozilla.org will contact the webmaster.  Not the perfect solution, but 
presumably they would be more influential than you or I.


Best of luck.


Blessa,
Ian


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Re: Can I "downgrade" from unstable to woody?

[Dale Hair]

 
> Thanks - that worked, but for a dependency problem with groff which was
> solved (as apt-get advised) by apt-get -f install.
> 
> Can I now safely remove the preferences file and put 'stable' in my
> sources.list in anticipation of woody's becoming stable?

Yes and you can use 'woody' instead of stable or testing.



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how to define my max_connections?

[Patrick Hsieh]

Hello list,

I am running mysql-3.23.49 on Linux 2.4.18 for production purpose.
Now I want to define a proper max_connections value in mysql. The
document said,

"The maximum number of connects MySQL is depending on how good the thread 
library is on a 
given platform. Linux or Solaris should be able to support 500-1000
simultaneous connections, depending on how much RAM you have and what
your clients are doing."

My question is, how can I raise the max_connections value as many as
possible? Does it depend on the hardware resource limit or how the OS
implement thread library?





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Kernel panic... :-(

[Helgi Örn]

Hello all!

I just installed the 2.4.18 kernel on my Woody, now it doesn't even
boot. First I ran it using the floppy with the new image (or so I
thought it was like this: 
---
Loading...
Uncompress Linux

ran out of input data

-- System halted
---
I am running SuSE 8.0 on this same box and lilo is SuSE's, the Debian
part looks like this:
---
image = /data2/vmlinuz
initrd = /data2/initrd.img
label = Debian
root = /dev/hdb10
---
/data2 is where Woodys /boot is
What happens now when I boot with lilo from MBR is that the screen just
goes black at once and reboots immediately.

What confuses me a bit is how it looks in the Debian /boot folder:
---
System.map-2.2.20-idepci
System.map-2.4.18-386
System.map-2.4.18-586tsc
System.map-2.4.18-bf2.4
System.map-2.4.18-k7
boot-bmp.b
boot-bmp.b.preserved
boot-compat.b
boot-compat.b.preserved
boot-menu.b
boot-menu.b.preserved
boot-text.b
boot-text.b.preserved
boot.b
chain.b
chain.b.preserved
config-2.2.20-idepci
config-2.4.18-386
config-2.4.18-586tsc
config-2.4.18-bf2.4
config-2.4.18-k7
initrd.img
initrd.img-2.4.18-386
initrd.img-2.4.18-586tsc
initrd.img-2.4.18-k7
lost+found
os2_d.b
os2_d.b.preserved
vmlinuz
vmlinuz-2.2.20-idepci
vmlinuz-2.4.18-386
vmlinuz-2.4.18-586tsc
vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4
vmlinuz-2.4.18-k7
---
This is quite a lot of stuff! The symlinks vmlinuz and inird.img point
to the *-k7 one.
The installation I did was just:
$apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18
and I thought that should do it, obviously I must have missed something
here.

I'm trying to move over from SuSE to Debian so this is a little
frustrating... :-/

I'm thankful for all the help I can get on this.

Cheers,
Helgi Örn

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Re: Kernel upgrade docs

[marshal]

> "Andrew" == Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Andrew> I seem to remember a good step-by-step guide to upgrading
Andrew> the kernel under debian, but can't find it now. I'd like
Andrew> to move to 2.4.18 but am rather timid about it.

Andrew> Thanks for any pointers.

Download 'kernel-package', and read
/usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz.

Good luck!

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Re: debian/freebsd

[marshal]

> "Henning" == Henning, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Henning> Hello- I have one hard drive that I want to have freeBSD
Henning> and debian Linux exist on.  I want freebsd in a primary
Henning> partition and I want linux and linux swap in the logical
Henning> partitions in the extended partition. Every time I try to
Henning> install debian, it corrupts my freebsd partition. After
Henning> that is corrupt I reinstall freebsd and I it corrupts my
Henning> debian partition. Does anyone have a duel boot system
Henning> with these two operating systems on the same disk? is it
Henning> not possible to have debian and freebsd on the same disk?
Henning> thanks- brian

I have done it before with debian and OpenBSD, but it was a long time
ago, and I haven't done it recently.  However, you may want to look at
this site I dug up...

http://geodsoft.com/howto/dualboot/combine.htm

Also, what do you mean by "corrupt"?

Good luck.

Marshal


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Re: fsck bus error: 'attempt to access beyond end of device' during boot

[Joost van Baal]

Hi,

Nicos, Thanks a lot for your reply!

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:04:56PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> On Sunday 09 June 2002 22:36, Joost van Baal wrote:
> >
> > [Please Cc me on replies, I'm not subscribed.]
> >
> > The short summary:  When booting, my box gives up, stating:
> >
> >  NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
> >  attempt to access beyond end of device
> >  03:02: rw=0, want=1023464393, limit=48384
> >  dev 03:02 blocksize=1024 blocknr= 
> >  ...
> 
> OK, from what I saw in the kernel source (drivers/block/ll_rw_blk.c, 
> line 849):

The box is running `Linux version 2.2.20 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
2.7.2.3) #1 Sat Apr 20 11:45:28 EST 2002', as shipped with the woody
boot floppies.

> 
> /* This may well happen - the kernel calls bread()
>without checking the size of the device, e.g.,
>when mounting a device. */
> printk(KERN_INFO
> "attempt to access beyond end of device\n");
> printk(KERN_INFO "%s: rw=%d, want=%ld, limit=%d\n",
> kdevname(bh->b_rdev), rw,
> (sector + count)>>1, minorsize);
> 
> So it could be an error during mounting.

hmm.. It _does_ tell me `VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.',
and the errors seem to occur while running /etc/init.d/keymap.sh and
/etc/init.d/checkroot.sh .  Apparently, mounting readonly succeeds, and
mounting read-write is not even tried.  Or is the message `VFS: Mounted
root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.' misleading me, and did the mount fail
in some way?

>  Device 03:02 should be hda2, 
> your root partition. A failure to mount or properly recognize it would 
> also explain all further errors. That's about all I can tell right now, 
> but perhaps it helps in further troubleshooting. Anyone?
> 
> My shot in the dark: it could be a bad BIOS call that fails to return 
> the correct size of the disk or a bad . Perhaps 
> post the complete lines that you abbreviated.

Here are all the bits which I believe might be interesting:

-

boot:
Loading Linux.
Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.2.20 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ...
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 @  (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0400 @ 0009fc00 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 02f0 @ 0010 (usable)
Detected 132634 kHz processor.
...
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
...
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb230
...
PIIX3: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hda: QUANTUM BIGFOOT2100A, ATA DISK drive
hdc: 685A, ATAPI CDROM drive, 120kB Cache
...
scsi : detected total.
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6 hda7 >
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.13)
apm: disabled on user request.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 152k freed
INIT: version 2.84 booting
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0
attempt to access beyond end of device
03:02: rw=0, want=1023464393, limit=48384
dev 03:02 blksize=1024 blocknr=1023464392 sector=2046928784 size=1024 count=1
attempt to access beyond end of device
03:02: rw=0, want=1023464393, limit=48384 
dev 03:02 blksize=1024 blocknr=1023464392 sector=2046928784 size=1024 count=1
attempt to access beyond end of device
03:02: rw=0, want=1016142892, limit=48384
dev 03:02 blksize=1024 blocknr=1016142891 sector=2032285782 size=1024 count=1
attempt to access beyond end of device
03:02: rw=0, want=65543, limit=48384
dev 03:02 blksize=1024 blocknr=65542 sector=131084 size=1024 count=1
/etc/init.d/rcS: line 38:10 Segmentation fault  loadkeys ${CONFDIR}/${CO
NFFILEROOT}.${EXT}.gz
Activating swap.
Adding Swap: 96764k swap-space (priority -1)
Checking root file system...
attempt to access beyond end of device
03:02: rw=0, want=49802217, limit=48384
dev 03:02 blksize=1024 blocknr=49802216 sector=99604432 size=1024 count=1
attempt to access beyond end of device
03:02: rw=0, want=2026144513, limit=48384
dev 03:02 blksize=1024 blocknr=-1211339136 sector=-242678272 size=1024 count=1
attempt to access beyond end of device

attempt to access beyond end of device

attempt to access beyond end of device

attempt to access beyond end of device

attempt to access beyond end of device

attempt to access beyond end of device

attempt to access beyond end of device

attempt to access beyond end of device

attempt to access beyond end of device

attempt to access beyond end of device
03:02: rw=0, want=200586302, limit=48384
dev 03:02 blksize=1024 blocknr=200586301 sector=401172602 size=1024 count=1
/etc/init.d/rcS: line 145:19 Bus error   fsck $spinner $force $f
ix /

fsck failed.  Please repair manually and reboot.  Please note


Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D for normal startup):


-

> The "want" number 
> in

Re: DHCP for PCMCIA interface: Being Canonical

[David Z Maze]

Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a wireless (SMC 2632W) PCMCIA network card on my laptop which runs 
> Debian/Sid.

(This is important.)

> Works great, once up. However, I do have to manually "pump -i wlan0"
> for it to get its address from the friendly neighbourhood DHCP
> server.
...
> I could probably hobble together some script to "get this working", without 
> too much troble but I know that whatever I come up with will not be the 
> canonical solution. 
>
> What is the canonical Debian way to get your pcmcia (wireless) card to fetch 
> it's IP from a DHCP server on boot?

In Debian unstable (and possibly in testing), the PCMCIA setup will
fall back to running 'ifup wlan0' or whatever if there's not explicit
configuration in /etc/pcmcia/* for the network card.  I think this is
great, personally.  :-)  In your case, then, the thing to do is to add
to /etc/network/interfaces

  # No 'auto wlan0'!
  iface wlan0 inet dhcp

...and you should be set.



My actual setup is a bit more complicated.  I use guessnet to bring
myself up on a couple of known static addresses, and there are
services (most notably the Zephyr host manager, zhm) that become
really unhappy without network.  So I actually have an
/etc/network/interfaces.m4, which I process with m4 to create the
actual interfaces file.  I also have a chunk of Perl that outputs a
set of interfaces lines for a CIDR-style network declaration; if I
call the script with "18.208.0.22/16" as a parameter, it will output
correct address, netmask, broadcast, and gateway lines (using MIT's
convention of using the first address in the block, e.g. 18.208.0.1,
as the gateway).  I should put the actual infrastructure on the Web
somewhere; the net result, though, is that I wind up with a file that
looks like

  mapping eth0
  script /usr/bin/guessnet
  map 18.101.2.57 00:60:XX:XX:XX:XX 18.101.2.49 eth0-home
  map 18.208.0.22 00:E0:XX:XX:XX:XX 18.208.0.1 eth0-et

  iface eth0-home inet static
  INTERFACE(18.101.2.57/28)
  up ifconfig eth0 mtu 1480
  SERVICE(zhm)

  QUIKSERV(eth0-et, 18.208.0.22/16)

  iface eth0-none inet dhcp
  SERVICE(zhm)

Useful packages to have installed are 'guessnet' and
'libnet-netmask-perl'; useful documentation includes interfaces(5) and
'info m4'.

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Re: Kernel upgrade docs

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Andrew Perrin wrote:

> I seem to remember a good step-by-step guide to upgrading the kernel under
> debian, but can't find it now. I'd like to move to 2.4.18 but am rather
> timid about it.

Last subsection of section 8 of the Installation Manual at

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual

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RE:Kernel upgrade docs

[Andrew Agno]

Andrew Perrin writes:
 > I seem to remember a good step-by-step guide to upgrading the kernel under
 > debian, but can't find it now. I'd like to move to 2.4.18 but am rather
 > timid about it.

Here's how I do it:
1. edit /etc/kernel-img.conf:
% echo "do_initrd = Yes" > blah
2. use dselect or apt-get to install the kernel-image-2.4.18-...
% apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-386
3. edit /etc/lilo.conf, or whatever you use, and have something like:
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-386
label=newkernel
read-only
initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.18-386
Something like this may have been done automatically for you.
I actually use the 686 image this way, but it should work for 386.
4. run lilo
% /sbin/lilo

Just make sure you keep the old kernel around so you can boot to it if 
something goes wrong.  A rescue CD is also handy.

Andrew.


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ast-ksh debs anywhere?

[Aidan OReilly]

Hello!
Anyone know if there are any .debs out there for this package? I may
take the free download from AT&T, but would prefer a Debianized package
if available. Thanks!
Aidan


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Re: Kernel upgrade docs

[Helgi Örn]

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 16:06, Andrew Perrin wrote:
> I seem to remember a good step-by-step guide to upgrading the kernel under
> debian, but can't find it now. I'd like to move to 2.4.18 but am rather
> timid about it.
> 
> Thanks for any pointers.
> 
I wish I had read a step-by-step guide _before_ installing the 2.4.18
kernel. I just mailed to the list about my problem:
Subject: Kernel panic... :-(
I installed the pre-compiled 2.4.18 and now I can't even get into the
system.

Now I found this on the web:




Cheers,
Helgi Örn

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mailto attachment name ?

[Lance Hoffmeyer]

I have recently started playing around with the program mailto.
One problem I am having is that when I send an attachment with
"~*" and a person receives the email they cannot see the original
filename.  What they see is "Application/x-zip" or something.
They do not see "myfile.zip".  What do I need to do in mailto
so that the recipients see the name of the attached file I
am sending?

Lance




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Re: Software work-around for broken BIOS clock?

[Bob Proulx]

> | Cheers. Didn't know about the alcohol trick. It's probably a terrible
> | waste of snaps though...
> 
> Don't use liquor, use "rubbing" alcohol.  (Sorry, I don't recal the
> scientific name off the top of my head right now.  I used to know it.)

Isopropyl alcohol.

Bob


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Re: Make eth0 be eth1, something like eth0=eth1?

[Nick Traxler]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:41:29AM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 09:46, AE Roy wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for a way in which I can turn my eth0 into eth1. I've been
> > thru all the files in /etc/network but I didn't find what I'm looking for.
> 
> I've never used it, but according to the manpage, nameif can do this.
> 
> see man 8 nameif.

You should be able to switch the modprobe lines in /etc/modules.conf.
In debian, this means changing the file in /etc/modutils that has the
aliases for eth0 and eth1.
You'll probably also have to change the interface information in
/etc/network/interfaces, unless you use dhcp for both cards.
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Re: Kernel upgrade docs

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:06:49AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
| I seem to remember a good step-by-step guide to upgrading the kernel under
| debian, but can't find it now. I'd like to move to 2.4.18 but am rather
| timid about it.

Pretty much point apt at woody and 
apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-

The dependencies will take care of getting the new modutils and stuff
you'll need.

The only remaining trick is to updated your bootloader.  If you use
grub :


title   Debian GNU/Linux (2.4.18-k7 , 1280x1024x16)
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-k7 root=/dev/hda1 read-only video=vesa 
vga=0x31A
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.4.18-k7

(the difference is the "initrd" line, instead of a "boot" line)


You only need to tell your bootloader to use an initrd iff your kernel
requires an initrd.  The pre-packaged ones use an initrd, but my
custom configured ones don't.

-D

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Fwd: Devfs & /dev permission persistence

[Russell Coker]

Here's a message from the devfs mailing list.  Potential problems like this 
are part of the reason why I don't do such things by default in my devfsd 
package.

I could make it an option to allow such use if there was a serious demand.  
So far only one person has requested it, this was a German guy at LinuxTag 
who couldn't understand my English well enough to permit a discussion in the 
small amount of time I had to spare before dinner (who I hope is reading this 
list as he hasn't contacted me to discuss it via email as requested).

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Subject: Devfs & /dev  permission persistence
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:53:06 -0400
From: "Luo, Ling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

According to the devfs.readme, I disabled the devfs automount at boot time
to enable dev file permission persistence to work( with /dev-state etc,
etc). However doing that brought up  the "Unable to open initial console"
warning message, it also messed up my serial console output( undecipherable
symbols jam the whole screen while rebooting). I tried the proposed
solution: a hack to the init program( I have initctl file under /dev
before). It didn't change the outcome.

Alternatively, I reenabled the automounting devfs at boot time, commented
out  "mount --bind /dev-state /dev" in the rc scripts, and left the
permission persistence configurations enabled in the devfsd.conf. Everything
seem to work fine now: dev file permission persistence is working, "Unable
to open initial console" warning is gone, and my serial console output is
back to normal. Since this is different from what was suggested in the
readme, just want to make sure this won't have other side effects.

Ling

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Re: Kernel panic... :-(

[Helgi Örn Helgason]

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 17:03, Helgi Örn wrote:
[snip]
At last I managed to get back into the system on the old kernel
(2.2.20), so now I just have to study further the art of upgrading the
kernel in Debian... :-)

Cheers,
Helgi Örn

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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Ron Johnson]

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 08:46, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> On 2002.06.10 03:35 Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
> > On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 20:33, Alvin Oga wrote:
> > 
> > > if you have a nearly full 80GB disks ... it wont matter
> > > if you have 1x 80GB or 4x 20GB( stripping )
> > 
> > No, it does matter. You can expect at least one of four 20GB drives to
> > fail much sooner than one 80GB drive, assuming same MTBF numbers on
> > all
> > drives.
> > 
> > The MTBF for one 50,000hr MTBF disk is 50,000hr. For four of them, it
> > is
> > 13,500Hr.
> > 
> > [ And, if you operate the four for a year, you can expect 1 to fail. ]
> 
> So then, the primary advantages of RAID are access speed and data 
> redundancy and the primary advantage of a stand-alone HDD is 
> reliability?

Well, redundancy is one way of ensuring reliability, so your
statement is slightly off.

The problem with JBODs (just big ole disks, i.e. single disks)
is that all of your eggs are in one basket.  Even though the
MTBF is 50,000 hours, the M in MTBF is, of course Mean, so
even though it should last 50,000 hours, it _might_ puke tomorrow.
So, use RAID[145] (or better yet: RAID1+0) just so you are spreading
the risk...

Another point that may have already been mentioned: with a JBOD,
you only have one spindle, so the read-write heads can only be
at 1 place at a time.  With RAID solutions, the read-write heads 
will be in as many different places at once as you have disks.
Note, though, that since the CPU overhead from calculating RAID[45]
recovery blocks necessitates a caching controller.  Otherwise,
write speeds will be slower.

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ntop does not preserve traffic stats

[Philipp Lehman]

I'm using ntop to monitor network traffic. ntop does not preserve the 
traffic stats over a reboot (which is crucial because the machine is 
not up all day). Whenever I look at the traffic stats page of web 
interface after a reboot, the figures are reset to 0.

I understand that I need to start it with -S 1. I configured it with 
debconf and in /etc/ntop/init.cfg there is indeed SAVE="1". It should 
save the stats with this setting, shouldn't it?

All pointers appreciated.

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Re: Problem: wall-clock jumping like Mexican bean

[Kevin Buhr]

Damien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> The problem must have occurred often enuff to other people, IMHO, but I
> can't find the solution online. My 'wall-clock' (as xscreensaver calls it
> in the error messages) keeps jumping ahead -- then back, semi-randomly. It
> seems to do so by always the same amount(?): @ 1 hr 11 minutes.

I assume you aren't running an NTP daemon and that there are no
messages in the logs about the time being stepped forward or back.

Does "@" mean "approximately"?  Is it closer to one hour, eight
minutes, and 16 seconds?  That would be 4096 seconds, and a most
suspicious number of seconds to be jumping.

Does it jump back and forth between two values, or does it jump
several times in the same direction (so it quickly becomes many hours
off)?

If it's jumping continually back and forth by 4096 seconds, I'd guess
you have a bad SIMM.  One bit (which just happens to be where your
kernel is storing the time-of-day clock) isn't being reliably set, and
you see jumps forward and backward every 20 or 30 times (seconds) the
kernel bumps the seconds counter.

If this is the case, you might try swapping SIMMs around.  However,
I'd suggest labelling their original positions very carefully.  If the
problem does "disappear", you want to be able to get back to where you
can reliably reproduce it and eliminate the offending SIMM.

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URGENT: Kernel upgrade breaks openAFS

[Andrew Perrin]

Greetings-

Upgrading to 2.4.18 today, I seem to have broken my openAFS client
configuration. Using *either* version (the one from testing on debian.org
or 1.2.4 from openafs.org) of openafs-modules-source,  when I do make-kpkg
modules_image the make fails thus:

../afs/../afs/../rx/../rx/rx_kmutex.h:155: warning: passing arg 1 of
`interruptible_sleep_on_timeout_Re0838aee' from incompatible pointer type
make[6]: *** [afs_analyze.o] Error 1
make[6]: Leaving directory
`/home/src/modules/openafs/src/libafs/MODLOAD-2.4.18-MP'
make[5]: *** [linux_compdirs] Error 2
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/src/modules/openafs/src/libafs'
make[4]: *** [libafs] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/src/modules/openafs'
make[3]: *** [build] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/src/modules/openafs'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/src/modules/openafs'
make[1]: *** [build-modules-stamp] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/src/modules/openafs'
Module /usr/src/modules/openafs failed.
Hit return to Continue



and no .deb is created.

Any help will be most appreciated - I'm in bad shape without my openafs
client!

ap

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NFS

[O Senhor]

  Hello,
  I have one celerra server (NAS) that is serving filesystems to my lan.
I have FreeBSD's boxes running diskless from that server... just fine.
Solaris machines e etc... 
  The problem is: My linux machines do not work. If i try boot diskless,
the start up crash (mounting rootfs), if i try mount some nfs
filesystem, occurs hangs and only the reboot repairs! The kernel is
2.4.18. I did not test the 2.2 kernel with diskless option, but the
mount job for normal use, works fine. I do not want tunning options... 
  Do you know about problems with the 2.4 kernel serie? patches or
something else? 

  Thanks.
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Re: Software work-around for broken BIOS clock?

[ben]

On Monday 10 June 2002 04:35 am, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
[snip]
>
> > next time you get to pulling a battery, swab the area around the
> > contacts with alcohol and let it evaporate before you replace the it.
> > those batteries should last for at least half a year.
>
> Cheers. Didn't know about the alcohol trick. It's probably a terrible
> waste of snaps though...

i'm hoping i don't need to say this, but drinkable alcohol will leave a sugar 
residue--you need the kind that kills more than braincells. on the otherhand, 
any decent moonshine, mescal, irish potcheen, or canadian blackjack might do 
the trick.

ben


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GCC 3.1 depends and BinUtils - safe to updrade?

[Balazs Javor]

Hi,

I'm currently tracking testing with the /etc/apt/preferences set to:
testing - 800
unstable - 700
stable - 600

Recently after doing an update in dselect/apt-get it automatically
selected GCC 3.1 and several related stuff.
Unfortunatelly they seen to depend on some libs and the binutils in SID.

Normally in cases like thid I just do apt-get install libname/unstable.
In case of binutils I don't know though whether it is safe...
I'm slowly learning Linux and I remember reading somewhere a long time
ago that for some reason it can break things badly if you have the
wrong version of binutils and/or modutils installed...

So my questions would be:
Is this true?
If yes, where could I learn about the reasons for this and similar issues?
Finally, in this particular case, would it be safe to upgrade binutils?

On a sidenote:
Is it possible to set apt preferences so that it will prefer testing,
but in case some packages depend on versions that are only in unstable,
it will automatically take them from unstable, but only those that are
necessary?

Many thanks for your help in advance!
best regards,
Balazs


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gedit

[ben]

i like gedit a lot but in the default state of the most recent debian 
version, 0.9.6, it doesn't display--in the open dialog--files or directories 
whose names begin with a dot. anyone know how to modify this?

ben


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Re: kindly get back to me

[Walter Hombold]

"laurent mpeti kabila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS ASSISTANCE
> --
> Your contact was availed to me by the chamber of commerce. It was given 

As I found your first e-mail in my trash-box: So why then do you ask me
again for Fax & Telephone Numbers since you _already_ must know them,
as you stated that _all_ necessary information were made available to
you from the above source.  

Look it up and get back to me. 

From: "mpeti kabila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:23:49 -0500
Subject: Re: kindly get back to me

ATTN:
THANK FOR THE RESPONSES. PLEASE KINDLY PROVIDE US WITH ALL YOUR
CONTACTS ADDRESSES. INCLUDING YOUR TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBER FOR MORE 
DETAIL.WAITING FOR YOUR URGENT RESPONSE.
REGARD.
>
> Looking forward for your urgent reply
> Thanks.
> Best Regards
>   
> MPETI L. KABILA (Jnr)

 
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Re: kindly get back to me

[Mike Dresser]

On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Walter Hombold wrote:

> As I found your first e-mail in my trash-box: So why then do you ask me
> again for Fax & Telephone Numbers since you _already_ must know them,
> as you stated that _all_ necessary information were made available to
> you from the above source.
>
> Look it up and get back to me.

You ARE aware this is a 419 nigerian scam, correct?


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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 09:46:45AM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> So then, the primary advantages of RAID are access speed and data 
> redundancy

The primary advantages of RAID are highly dependent on what flavor of
RAID you're using.  RAID0 and RAID1, e.g., are practically the opposite
of each other in terms of speed, capacity, and reliability.  Reference my
earlier post in this thread for further details.

> and the primary advantage of a stand-alone HDD is 
> reliability?

A single drive is less likely to have a hardware failure (since
there's less hardware to fail), but, if it does fail, you lose access
to the data.  RAIDs tend to have more frequent hardware failures,
but, unless it's a RAID0, your data will remain available despite the
failure.

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Re: kindly get back to me

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 08:17:57PM +0200, Walter Hombold wrote:
> "laurent mpeti kabila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS ASSISTANCE
> > --
> > Your contact was availed to me by the chamber of commerce. It was given 
> 
> As I found your first e-mail in my trash-box: So why then do you ask me
> again for Fax & Telephone Numbers since you _already_ must know them,
> as you stated that _all_ necessary information were made available to
> you from the above source.  
> 
> Look it up and get back to me. 

It's a scam, so it's not worth the effort. See
http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/ for more details; you really don't
want to encourage these people.

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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:07:22PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> The problem with JBODs (just big ole disks, i.e. single disks)

JBOD = Just a Bunch Of Disks, i.e., several drives operating
independently.  A JBOD can be organized into a RAID, but doesn't have
to be.

> With RAID solutions, the read-write heads 
> will be in as many different places at once as you have disks.

This is primarily a benefit in RAID0 or 5 configurations.  RAID1 could
benefit from it also, but a lot of RAID implementations are too stupid
to take advantage of it.  RAID4 loses some of this benefit due to the
limitations of having all the parity data on a single disk.

> Note, though, that since the CPU overhead from calculating RAID[45]
> recovery blocks necessitates a caching controller.  Otherwise,
> write speeds will be slower.

RAID1 is also typically slower since the write isn't considered to be
complete until it has taken place on all disks (having read-write heads
in many places helps reads and hurts writes).

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Re: Problem: wall-clock jumping like Mexican bean

[Jonathan Matthews]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:24:28AM -0700, Kevin Buhr wrote:
> Damien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > The problem must have occurred often enuff to other people, IMHO, but I
> > can't find the solution online. My 'wall-clock' (as xscreensaver calls it
> > in the error messages) keeps jumping ahead -- then back, semi-randomly. It
> > seems to do so by always the same amount(?): @ 1 hr 11 minutes.
> 
> I assume you aren't running an NTP daemon and that there are no
> messages in the logs about the time being stepped forward or back.
> 
> Does "@" mean "approximately"?  Is it closer to one hour, eight
> minutes, and 16 seconds?  That would be 4096 seconds, and a most
> suspicious number of seconds to be jumping.
> 
> Does it jump back and forth between two values, or does it jump
> several times in the same direction (so it quickly becomes many hours
> off)?
> 
> If it's jumping continually back and forth by 4096 seconds, I'd guess
> you have a bad SIMM.  One bit (which just happens to be where your
> kernel is storing the time-of-day clock) isn't being reliably set, and
> you see jumps forward and backward every 20 or 30 times (seconds) the
> kernel bumps the seconds counter.
> 
> If this is the case, you might try swapping SIMMs around.  However,
> I'd suggest labelling their original positions very carefully.  If the
> problem does "disappear", you want to be able to get back to where you
> can reliably reproduce it and eliminate the offending SIMM.

I think it's possibly a dodgy RTC on the motherboard.  I saw
this exact complaint come up on linux-kernel a while ago, and
someone mentioned that it was specific to a certain brand
of mobo.

No URLs for you, I'm afraid, but if you google a bit, I'm sure
it'll appear.

As I recall, there was no solution or workaround - the
board simply reports the wrong time every so often.  It's
a bug.

jc

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Tool to manage messages sent to web site

[Antonio Rodriguez]

I am looking for a tool to manage messages sent to a web server, with thread
capability, etc. Can someone advice of one?
Thanks,
AR


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Re: Kernel panic... :-(

[Helgi Örn]

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 18:43, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 17:03, Helgi Örn wrote:
> [snip]
> At last I managed to get back into the system on the old kernel
> (2.2.20), so now I just have to study further the art of upgrading the
> kernel in Debian... :-)
>
apt-get remove kernel-image-2.4.18 
apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-686
writing a new lilo.conf (I just love lilo!)
run lilo (over the SuSE lilo so now Debian rules this box...:-)
reboot
Voila!

Now I just have these left to config:
Sound: Creative Audigy Platinum eX
CD-burner: HP cd-writer 9500
TV-card: Hauppauge WinTV

Any hints?

Cheers,
Helgi Örn
 
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customizing aterm

[Veit Waltemath]

Hi ppl,

I want to use aterm and X-terminal-emulator shows already to aterm.

Now i want to us a tranparent background and maybe other things, so what
can i do, that for example irssi or Mutt startet from the Wmaker menu
gets the wanted behaviour. Typing from the shell the whole bunch of
options is awful.

cu Veit
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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:00:16AM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> So, the way I'm reading this, a RAID 5 stack w/ 5 20 GB hard drives 
> provides improved access speed and reliability at the cost of slightly 
> reduced storage.

Yep.  Different RAID levels are basically different tradeoffs between
reliability and capacity (speed should theoretically be improved at all
levels, so I don't see it as a major distinguishing factor, even though
it's not an even increase at all levels in the real world).  RAID0 is
all about capacity, RAID1 is the ultimate in failure-tolerance, RAID5 and
RAID0+1 are different ways of trying to strike a balance between the two.

> An earlier thread was making reference to setting up 
> seperate controllers for each HDD.  I have seen adverts for stand-alone 
> RAID towers.  Would the use of one of these towers do away with the 
> need for seperate controllers, and if so do these towers support IDE or 
> just SCSI?

Any sort of true hardware RAID setup (beware the hybrids, since this
doesn't apply to them) will interact with the rest of the system as a
single device.  The question of whether to put the individual drives
on separate controllers or not doesn't apply, since the drives
connect to the RAID controller and the RAID controller attaches to
the SCSI (or IDE, I suppose, though I've never seen an IDE hardware
RAID controller) bus as a single device.  Even the BIOS thinks it's
just one disk.

Keep in mind, though, that my earlier comment about needing a
seperate controller for each drive is IDE-specific.  SCSI controllers
are a lot smarter about handling multiple devices and can deal with
this more effectively, just so long as you verify that the SCSI
controller has enough bandwidth for all the drives to transfer data
at their maximum rates.

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Re: gedit

[Rich Rudnick]

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 11:18, ben wrote:
> i like gedit a lot but in the default state of the most recent debian 
> version, 0.9.6, it doesn't display--in the open dialog--files or directories 
> whose names begin with a dot. anyone know how to modify this?
> 
> ben

I just type a dot in the dialog box, then press  and the dot files
magically appear (I just retested the gnome2 version, but IIRC it worked
with the old gedit also).

> 
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Re: gedit

[ben]

On Monday 10 June 2002 11:52 am, Rich Rudnick wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 11:18, ben wrote:
> > i like gedit a lot but in the default state of the most recent debian
> > version, 0.9.6, it doesn't display--in the open dialog--files or
> > directories whose names begin with a dot. anyone know how to modify this?
> >
> > ben
>
> I just type a dot in the dialog box, then press  and the dot files
> magically appear (I just retested the gnome2 version, but IIRC it worked
> with the old gedit also).

thanks, rich. that works.

ben


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Swapfile

[Jens Karsten Müller]

Hello,

today i created a swapfile instead of a partition, because i think
it's more dynamic. I only see advantages using a swapfile. So first of
all, I'd like to know about disadvantages, because almost everybody
uses a swap partition. And finally I need to know what to change on my
potato. I just wrote the following line into /etc/init.d/mountall.sh:
swapon /swapfile

This does work, but I'm not sure whether this is the right place for
it. So is there a better place for it?

Best regards,
Jens


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Re: GCC 3.1 depends and BinUtils - safe to updrade?

[Robin Putters]

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 19:45, Balazs Javor wrote:

> So my questions would be:
> Is this true?
> If yes, where could I learn about the reasons for this and similar issues?
> Finally, in this particular case, would it be safe to upgrade binutils?
> 

I'm having no problems running SID for over a year now (except for the
nasty libpam problem which wouldn't let me log in)...

But there's a reason it's called unstable.. In unstable things *can*
(and sometimes *will*) break...

Ah well.. You've probably heard that story over and over again.. The
binutils version in unstable isn't causing me any problems, but, because
it's unstable, it might cause you problems :).

Robin


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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Robert Webb]

Dave Sherohman wrote:
[snip]


Any sort of true hardware RAID setup (beware the hybrids, since this
doesn't apply to them) will interact with the rest of the system as a
single device.  The question of whether to put the individual drives
on separate controllers or not doesn't apply, since the drives
connect to the RAID controller and the RAID controller attaches to
the SCSI (or IDE, I suppose, though I've never seen an IDE hardware
RAID controller) bus as a single device.  Even the BIOS thinks it's
just one disk.

 



yup, there IDE RAID controllers out there. Whether they help speed or 
not I don't know.
I am actually running one that does only RAID 1 for redundancy for my 
firewall. Cannot

afford to have that go down. :-)

Robert


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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Ron Johnson]

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 13:39, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:07:22PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > The problem with JBODs (just big ole disks, i.e. single disks)
> 
> JBOD = Just a Bunch Of Disks, i.e., several drives operating
> independently.  A JBOD can be organized into a RAID, but doesn't have
> to be.

We must work in different shops...

> > With RAID solutions, the read-write heads 
> > will be in as many different places at once as you have disks.
> 
> This is primarily a benefit in RAID0 or 5 configurations.  RAID1 could
> benefit from it also, but a lot of RAID implementations are too stupid
> to take advantage of it.  RAID4 loses some of this benefit due to the
> limitations of having all the parity data on a single disk.

If I remember correctly from the last time I created a RAID set,
the docs said:
WRITE:  READ
Fastest RAID1+0 RAID1+0
RAID0   RAID0
single  RAID5
RAID1   RAID4
RAID4   RAID1
Slowest RAID5   single

> > Note, though, that since the CPU overhead from calculating RAID[45]
> > recovery blocks necessitates a caching controller.  Otherwise,
> > write speeds will be slower.
> 
> RAID1 is also typically slower since the write isn't considered to be
> complete until it has taken place on all disks (having read-write heads
> in many places helps reads and hurts writes).

In the last few years, when speed is imperative, we've bitten
the cost bullet and gone with RAID1+0, mirrored stripesets (or
striped mirrorsets; I don't know how the controller internally
handles it).

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Re: debian/freebsd

[Jeff Penn]

> I want freebsd in a primary partition and I want linux and linux
> swap in the logical partitions in the extended partition. Every time
> I try to install debian, it corrupts my freebsd partition. After that
> is corrupt I reinstall

This is explained in a linux+freebsd howto (sorry don't have a url to
hand).  The solution is to install Debian before freebsd.

My system had slice/partitions 1 & 3 assigned to freebsd.  I found that
installing Debian in ext partitions corrupted the first partition, but
left the third partition untouched.  Oddly though, a copy of Libranet 
(based on Debian) did not cause the same problems. 

good luck
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Re: URGENT: Kernel upgrade breaks openAFS

[Sam Hartman]

Hi.  I just grabbed openafs-modules-source 1.2.4-1 and
kernel-source-2.4.18 2.4.18-5 and it worked fine for me.

I'm using the gcc-2.95 in unstable.


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Time(zone) problems

[Mike Mimic]

Hi!

I have some strange time problems. When I run date as
normal user I get time in UTC timezone. And when I
create files they also get timestamp with that time
(and that's wrong time). But as root I don't have that
problems and I have normal CEST time (as it should
be).

I have runed timezoneconf but it didn't solve the
problem.

Any ideas?


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Re: kindly get back to me

[Walter]

Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 08:17:57PM +0200, Walter Hombold wrote:
>> "laurent mpeti kabila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS ASSISTANCE
>> > --
>> > Your contact was availed to me by the chamber of commerce. It was given 
>> 
>> As I found your first e-mail in my trash-box: So why then do you ask me
>> again for Fax & Telephone Numbers since you _already_ must know them,
>> as you stated that _all_ necessary information were made available to
>> you from the above source.  
>> 
>> Look it up and get back to me. 
>
> It's a scam, so it's not worth the effort. See
> http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/ for more details; you really don't
> want to encourage these people.

Thanks :-) I knew something was/is fishy 

Darn it, by mistake I send my reply to this guy  the debian-user list
too, sorry 

BTW as "Walter Hombold" I am not subscribed to the debian-user-list and
still I can post? I am subscribed with a _different_  name
though. Can this be the reason why my post as "Walter" does not bounce? 

"Walter H."

>
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Re: Problem: wall-clock jumping like Mexican bean

[Rich Puhek]

Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> 
> I think it's possibly a dodgy RTC on the motherboard.  I saw
> this exact complaint come up on linux-kernel a while ago, and
> someone mentioned that it was specific to a certain brand
> of mobo.
> 
> No URLs for you, I'm afraid, but if you google a bit, I'm sure
> it'll appear.
> 

But I thought that the RTC was ignored after boot? If so, a bad RTC
would explain a clock that comes up bad on boot every now and then, but
not why a running system would suddenly shift time.

--Rich

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kde sources.list

[Eduardo Gargiulo]

Hi all.

What should I add to my sources.list to install kde (i want to run
kdeveloper) on my debian/potato ?

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Re: Kernel panic... :-(

[Mathias Gygax]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 08:46:07PM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote:
> Now I just have these left to config:
> Sound: Creative Audigy Platinum eX

apt-get -f install alsa-modules-2.4.18-686 alsaconf

and alsaconf it.

> CD-burner: HP cd-writer 9500

"hdX=ide-scsi" into append line of lilo.conf

cdrecord -scanbus should print the scsi-generic ID of your device.

> TV-card: Hauppauge WinTV

here is my /etc/modutils/bttv

-[snip]-
#
# TV
#

alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-81-0   bttv
alias char-major-89 i2c-dev
pre-install bttvmodprobe -k msp3400; modprobe -k tuner
options i2c i2c_debug=0 verbose=0 scan=1
options i2c-corei2c_debug=1
options i2c-algo-bitbit_test=1
#options bttvradio=0 card=10 pll=2 triton1=1 tuner=5
options bttvradio=0 card=10
options msp3400 debug=0
options tuner   debug=1
-[snip]-

update-modules and "modprobe bttv". be sure to adjust above driver
options to your fit. above setup ist for my hauppauge wintv pci with a
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Re: kindly get back to me

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:46:20PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> BTW as "Walter Hombold" I am not subscribed to the debian-user-list and
> still I can post? I am subscribed with a _different_  name
> though. Can this be the reason why my post as "Walter" does not bounce? 

With the exception of some announcement lists, anyone can post to Debian
mailing lists. You don't have to be subscribed.

(I believe that being subscribed does mean that you get whitelisted by
the spam checks, though.)

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woody is so full of OLD stuff

[Dan Jacobson]

A> Try aptitude instead of dselect; it doesn't have many of its
A> problems. It's IMHO much better, and it is the new "standard"
A> package managing tool.

ok, if it is so standard then it should be installed by default in the
tasksel phase.  no mention of it is made from the time we pop in the
first CD thru the final "have fun" message.

My first impression of debian, woody, is: gee, they sure like giving
you old defaults:

emacs20.  want emacs 21 then install it yourself.  should be the other
way around.

I mean you guys are GNU/Linux, right?  Well, isn't it misrepresenting
"GNU" if you are two to several years behind GNU?

awk is 1996 mawk.  try awk --help, awk --version: cold and
unresponsive.  If you want that info see the man page.  unless users
install gawk themselves then Aaron's years of gawk effort are
irrelevant.   Here you are six years behind GNU.

Anyway that's what I discovered after one day.  Is that what you
seasoned pros really use every day or is that some kind of bare bones
setup that "everybody customizes anyway unless they are just using the
machine to run apache".

Is the reason why gawk is ignored is that it will break some
important script and I'll be sorry?

Is the rest of woody like this, every default 2 years cautiously in
the past, or did I just bump into some unrepresentative cases?

I mean I wanted to pop in the CDs and be taken to a new plateau of
free software computing.  I wanted to be in with the in crowd.  Did I
miss some "new, please"  button during installation?  I saw a question
about a 2.4 kernel, something that is above most of my head.  It told
me it was for risk takers so I said no.  I didn't see other questions
about "do you want years old this and that"?

I'm not saying to force the user to use 100% of you pros' daily
environment.  I'm just saying if there is already an _official
release_ of something, and you are giving the user an old version upon
debian installation without getting the users' conscious approval,
then aren't you misrepresenting the GNU label that I see pasted
everywhere?  (oops, this isn't a debian official release itself).

That and of course making the user feel that he must have made a
mistake somewhere.  "was it a skipped [Y]n?  Was it wrong advice at
the LUG meeting?  Did I download the wrong CD set?"
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Server Side Includes

[Ronald Castillo]

Hello..

I was wondering if there is any way of installing Server Side Includes
for Apache without having to recompile from source.  I have tried
changing the httpd.conf file, placing .htaccess files but with no
results.

Thanks for your help..

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Re: kindly get back to me

[Jamin W . Collins]

On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:09:45 +0100
"Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> (I believe that being subscribed does mean that you get whitelisted by
> the spam checks, though.)

There are spam checks in use?  I'm just a little shocked at the pieces
that have made it through then.  Perhaps, as you state, they were
auto-whitelisted.

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Re: Server Side Includes

[Patrick Wiseman]

This is a bit OT, but ...

On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Ronald Castillo wrote:

> I was wondering if there is any way of installing Server Side Includes
> for Apache without having to recompile from source.  I have tried
> changing the httpd.conf file, placing .htaccess files but with no
> results.

See

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_include.html

for details.  mod_include is part of the base of apache, so there should
be no need to recompile.

You did restart the server after modifying httpd.conf, I suppose?

Patrick

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Re: Tool to manage messages sent to web site

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 02:45:49PM -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
| I am looking for a tool to manage messages sent to a web server,
| with thread capability, etc. Can someone advice of one?

What is a "message"?  What do you mean by "manage"?  apache can manage
(HTTP) messages sent to a web server.

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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q) - fw

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya robert

why not have two firewalls ???
( 2x pentium-90Mhz for example .. something cheap, but fast enough)

  +-- fw1 --+
internet -> csu/dus -> hub -> + +-->  hub -> your lan
  +-- fw2 --+

when one goes down use the other ...  
( we are ignoring hubbs as being the single pointof failures 
( and the csu/dsu ...


On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Robert Webb wrote:

> yup, there IDE RAID controllers out there. Whether they help speed or 
> not I don't know.
> I am actually running one that does only RAID 1 for redundancy for my 
> firewall. Cannot
> afford to have that go down. :-)
> 


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audio volume playing CDs

[gob]

Evening all.  I cannot obtain maximum volume from my system while 
playing audio CDs with cdtool.  Other apps work fine while playing audio 
off the HD (xmms).  I've used cdtool (cdvolume 255), aumix (aumix 
-v100), and a small app called volume (volume 255).  All of these lift 
the volume slightly but not to what its capable.  Is there another 
app/command I should be using?


I've Woody, 2.4.18 kernel (self compiled with trident driver), SiS7018 
audio on a laptop (Clevo 2700c).


Thanks for your neuronal input!

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Re: Problem: wall-clock jumping like Mexican bean

[Jonathan Matthews]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:46:45PM -0500, Rich Puhek wrote:
> 
> 
> Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> > 
> > I think it's possibly a dodgy RTC on the motherboard.  I saw
> > this exact complaint come up on linux-kernel a while ago, and
> > someone mentioned that it was specific to a certain brand
> > of mobo.
> > 
> > No URLs for you, I'm afraid, but if you google a bit, I'm sure
> > it'll appear.
> > 
> 
> But I thought that the RTC was ignored after boot? If so, a bad RTC
> would explain a clock that comes up bad on boot every now and then, but
> not why a running system would suddenly shift time.

I might be using the wrong terminology - I'm just remembering
the symptoms from the l-k thread.

Here's what I found from l-k.  Not the thread I was 
originally thinking of, but might fit as well.

Y

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Re: Problem: wall-clock jumping like Mexican bean

[Jonathan Matthews]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:43:17PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:46:45PM -0500, Rich Puhek wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> > > 
> > > I think it's possibly a dodgy RTC on the motherboard.  I saw
> > > this exact complaint come up on linux-kernel a while ago, and
> > > someone mentioned that it was specific to a certain brand
> > > of mobo.
> > > 
> > > No URLs for you, I'm afraid, but if you google a bit, I'm sure
> > > it'll appear.
> > > 
> > 
> > But I thought that the RTC was ignored after boot? If so, a bad RTC
> > would explain a clock that comes up bad on boot every now and then, but
> > not why a running system would suddenly shift time.
> 
> I might be using the wrong terminology - I'm just remembering
> the symptoms from the l-k thread.
> 
> Here's what I found from l-k.  Not the thread I was 
> originally thinking of, but might fit as well.
> 

Oops.  Here's the link:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=102348147820343&w=2

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Re: HDD vs. RAID -- pictures

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya

for those that like raid pictures (or can understand pics easier)
of various raid setup

easier to understand/see the differences between
raid0, raid1, raid5, raid10, raid01, 
- look for the parity info and where its located..

http://www.1U-Raid5.net/Differences/

c ya
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Re: Problem: wall-clock jumping like Mexican bean

[Jonathan Matthews]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:45:22PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:43:17PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:46:45PM -0500, Rich Puhek wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I think it's possibly a dodgy RTC on the motherboard.  I saw
> > > > this exact complaint come up on linux-kernel a while ago, and
> > > > someone mentioned that it was specific to a certain brand
> > > > of mobo.
> > > > 
> > > > No URLs for you, I'm afraid, but if you google a bit, I'm sure
> > > > it'll appear.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > But I thought that the RTC was ignored after boot? If so, a bad RTC
> > > would explain a clock that comes up bad on boot every now and then, but
> > > not why a running system would suddenly shift time.
> > 
> > I might be using the wrong terminology - I'm just remembering
> > the symptoms from the l-k thread.
> > 
> > Here's what I found from l-k.  Not the thread I was 
> > originally thinking of, but might fit as well.
> > 
> 
> Oops.  Here's the link:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=102348147820343&w=2

And another one.
The 1 hour 11 minutes (I think ..?) described in the OP is
obviously a known issue.  Hope this helps.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=102212413728493&w=2

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X11 Config Error on Moving from Potato to Woody

[Eric Brooks]

Debian friends,

I got the error shown below on moving from potato to woody. I have done
an apt-get udpate and apt-get dist-upgrade so I assume I'm running an
X-windows version in synch with the xf86config utility that I ran to produce
the XF86Config file. Does anyone have any insight on where I should start
looking to resolve this issue?

Thanks in advance.

Eric
=== ERROR MESSAGE FOLLOWS ==


warning: process set to nice value 0 instead of -10 as requested

XFree86 Version 3.3.6a / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: xx November 2000
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.4.13 i686 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 1):
  NV1, STG2000, RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2, RIVA ULTRA TNT2,
  RIVA VANTA, RIVA ULTRA VANTA, RIVA INTEGRATED, GeForce 256,
  GeForce DDR, Quadro, GeForce2 GTS, GeForce2 GTS (rev1),
  GeForce2 Ultra, Quadro 2 Pro, GeForce2 MX, GeForce2 MX DDR,
  Quadro 2 MXR, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i, ET4000W32i_rev_b,
  ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b,
  ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, pvga1,
  wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, r128, ati,
  sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, sis86c215, sis86c225, sis5597,
  sis5598, sis6326, sis530, sis620, sis300, sis630, sis540, tvga8200lx,
  tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000,
  tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi,
  tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682,
  tgui9685, cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520,
  cyber9525, 3dimage975, 3dimage985, cyber9397dvd, blade3d, cyberblade,
  clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430,
  clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465,
  clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543,
  clgd7548, clgd7555, clgd7556, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, mga2064w,
  mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag200, mgag100, mgag400, oti067,
  oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308,
  ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ark1000vl, ark1000pv,
  ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, s3_savage, s3_virge, AP6422, AT24,
  AT3D, s3_svga, NM2070, NM2090, NM2093, NM2097, NM2160, NM2200,
  ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546,
  ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct6, ct68554, ct69000, ct64200,
  ct64300, mediagx, V1000, V2100, V2200, p9100, spc8110, i740, i740_pci,
  Voodoo Banshee, Voodoo3, smi, generic
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(--) no ModulePath specified using default: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
dbe: Unknown error loading module

Config Error: /etc/X11/XF86Config:48

SubSection  "extmod"
^^^
Module section keyword expected

Fatal server error:
Child error writing to pipe (Broken pipe)


When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages

X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).


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Re: audio volume playing CDs

[Carlos Sousa]

On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:39:53 +0100 gob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Evening all.  I cannot obtain maximum volume from my system while 
> playing audio CDs with cdtool.  Other apps work fine while playing
> audio off the HD (xmms).  I've used cdtool (cdvolume 255), aumix
> (aumix -v100), and a small app called volume (volume 255).  All of
> these lift the volume slightly but not to what its capable.  Is there
> another app/command I should be using?

Perhaps the CD source volume is set too low? In this case, try aumix
-c100.

There is also a volume control called PCM, set that to maximum as well
with aumix -w100. On some cards there's a second PCM that you can set
with aumix -W (uppercase 'w'). But these should already be OK since you
are satisfied with the volume from sound files on your disk.

I usually set all volumes of all sources to the max, then use the main
volume control (aumix -v) to obtain the desired volume level.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Speedy na debian 2.2.r3 Potato

[Francisco M Neto]

Olá, 

> Tenho uma placa SURECOM (desconhecida no linux), mas que vem com o driver
> e o modulo e um passo a passo.

Essa placa não é desconhecida. Use o módulo 8139too ('modprobe
8139too')

> 1) Eu posso por qualquer IP aqui ${IPADDR}?

Depende do teu serviço de Internet. Se você usa Speedy, você
não deveria fazer nenhuma configuração; caso contrário, pergunte a
eles qual o seu IP e aproveite para perguntar qual a sua máscara de
sub-rede, endereço de broadcast, endereço de rede, gateway e DNS
primário e secundário.

Se você usar o Speedy, edite o arquivo /etc/network/interfaces
e coloque as seguinte linha nele:

iface eth0 inet dhcp

Se você usar IP fixo, coloque as seguintes linhas:

iface eth0 inet static
address 1.2.3.6  <-- Seu IP
netmask 255.255.254.0 <-- Máscara de sub-rede
broadcast 1.2.3.255 <-- End. de broadcast
gateway 1.2.3.1 <-- Gateway
network 1.2.3.0 <-- End. de rede

E, ainda com IP fixo, edite o arquivo /etc/resolv.conf e
adicione as seguintes linhas:

nameserver 1.2.3.3 <-- DNS primário
nameserver 1.2.3.4 <-- DNS secundário

A ordem dessas linhas É importante!

> 2) O que eh ${BROADCAST} ?

O endereço de broadcast serve pro teu driver de rede saber
qual o último endereço da sua rede. 

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[Re: audio volume playing CDs [SOLVED]]

[gob]

 --- Begin Message ---

Carlos Sousa wrote:

Perhaps the CD source volume is set too low? In this case, try aumix
-c100.


Brilliant!  On the button, loud and painful now.  Thanks for your help. 8-)


There is also a volume control called PCM, set that to maximum as well
with aumix -w100. On some cards there's a second PCM that you can set
with aumix -W (uppercase 'w'). But these should already be OK since you
are satisfied with the volume from sound files on your disk.


Yes, you are correct there

Cheers.  Tim

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Re: audio volume playing CDs [SOLVED]

[Carlos Sousa]

Forwarding to the list:

Carlos Sousa wrote:
> Perhaps the CD source volume is set too low? In this case, try aumix
> -c100.

Brilliant!  On the button, loud and painful now.  Thanks for your help.
8-)

> There is also a volume control called PCM, set that to maximum as well
> with aumix -w100. On some cards there's a second PCM that you can set
> with aumix -W (uppercase 'w'). But these should already be OK since
> you are satisfied with the volume from sound files on your disk.

Yes, you are correct there

Cheers.  Tim

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Re: kindly get back to me

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 04:35:59PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:09:45 +0100
> "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > (I believe that being subscribed does mean that you get whitelisted by
> > the spam checks, though.)
> 
> There are spam checks in use?

As of a few months ago (I'm not a listmaster, so I don't know the
details).

> I'm just a little shocked at the pieces that have made it through
> then.  Perhaps, as you state, they were auto-whitelisted.

"spamassassin is not perfect" is probably the best explanation for that.
It's certainly several orders of magnitude better now than it used to
be; my own spamassassin checks don't run over messages coming from
Debian lists, so I'd notice.

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Re: HDD vs. RAID (was Re: Lilo Q)

[Ron Johnson]

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 14:22, Robert Webb wrote:
> 
> 
> Dave Sherohman wrote:
[snip]
> yup, there IDE RAID controllers out there. Whether they help speed or 
> not I don't know.
> I am actually running one that does only RAID 1 for redundancy for my 
> firewall. Cannot
> afford to have that go down. :-)

I think, if I wanted that type of security in my firewall, that
I'd create a CD-R + floppy disk solution, where the floppy disk
has just one file: the firewall config script.


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Debian beer at USENIX?

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

If anybody here's at USENIX this week or otherwise in the Monterey, CA,
USA area, give a yell.  We should get BoF session scheduled or just go
out for beers.

And don't forget to go see Bdale's Guru Session.

noah

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Re: Debian beer at USENIX?

[Thomas Lange]

> On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:21:30 -0400, "Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL 
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> If anybody here's at USENIX this week or otherwise in the
> Monterey, CA, USA area, give a yell.  We should get BoF session
Yell.

I'm also at USENIX in Monterey. I'll  give a BOF at thursday about OS
installations using FAI, the fully automatic installation for Debian
and other OSes.

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Re: woody is so full of OLD stuff

[Jeff Green]

Not a detailed reply because I am only a user not a developer or 
advocate or anything particular. I don't have any idea why the install 
takes you into dselect, apt is installed by default and if you know the 
name of the package you want you can apt-get install it. If you aren't 
sure of the name apt-cache search will usually help you.
One thing though I am sure about I like debian not having the latest 
brand new gizmos by default, that is the whole point!
I use debian because I need to run machines that are thousands of miles 
away from me that I have never seen and never will see and all I can do 
is to ask someone to reboot it or tell me what the screen says. I can 
remotely log in to a debian box and install a fiendishly complex set of 
applications with a one line command, they will install, they will not 
break anything, the machine won't crash, it won't even pause in what it 
is doing it will just work!
If there are any security issues another one line command will install 
well worked out and extrememly promptly supplied patches, again with 
virtually no chance of problems. IMO Debian is not for people who want 
to play with the latest toys and show how macho they are, it is for 
people who want their machines to just work, day in day out.

Just my two penn'orth
Jeff
Dan Jacobson wrote:

A> Try aptitude instead of dselect; it doesn't have many of its
A> problems. It's IMHO much better, and it is the new "standard"
A> package managing tool.

ok, if it is so standard then it should be installed by default in the
tasksel phase.  no mention of it is made from the time we pop in the
first CD thru the final "have fun" message.

My first impression of debian, woody, is: gee, they sure like giving
you old defaults:

emacs20.  want emacs 21 then install it yourself.  should be the other
way around.

I mean you guys are GNU/Linux, right?  Well, isn't it misrepresenting
"GNU" if you are two to several years behind GNU?

awk is 1996 mawk.  try awk --help, awk --version: cold and
unresponsive.  If you want that info see the man page.  unless users
install gawk themselves then Aaron's years of gawk effort are
irrelevant.   Here you are six years behind GNU.

Anyway that's what I discovered after one day.  Is that what you
seasoned pros really use every day or is that some kind of bare bones
setup that "everybody customizes anyway unless they are just using the
machine to run apache".

Is the reason why gawk is ignored is that it will break some
important script and I'll be sorry?

Is the rest of woody like this, every default 2 years cautiously in
the past, or did I just bump into some unrepresentative cases?

I mean I wanted to pop in the CDs and be taken to a new plateau of
free software computing.  I wanted to be in with the in crowd.  Did I
miss some "new, please"  button during installation?  I saw a question
about a 2.4 kernel, something that is above most of my head.  It told
me it was for risk takers so I said no.  I didn't see other questions
about "do you want years old this and that"?

I'm not saying to force the user to use 100% of you pros' daily
environment.  I'm just saying if there is already an _official
release_ of something, and you are giving the user an old version upon
debian installation without getting the users' conscious approval,
then aren't you misrepresenting the GNU label that I see pasted
everywhere?  (oops, this isn't a debian official release itself).

That and of course making the user feel that he must have made a
mistake somewhere.  "was it a skipped [Y]n?  Was it wrong advice at
the LUG meeting?  Did I download the wrong CD set?"




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Re: woody is so full of OLD stuff

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 08:01:05AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> A> Try aptitude instead of dselect; it doesn't have many of its
> A> problems. It's IMHO much better, and it is the new "standard"
> A> package managing tool.
> 
> ok, if it is so standard

It's not.

> then it should be installed by default in the tasksel phase.

I believe it will be in the next release; the base-config maintainer
seems to like aptitude, but it was too close to release to go mucking
about with that.

> My first impression of debian, woody, is: gee, they sure like giving
> you old defaults:
> 
> emacs20.  want emacs 21 then install it yourself.  should be the other
> way around.

That's just the unix-server task. File a bug against tasksel.

> awk is 1996 mawk.  try awk --help, awk --version: cold and
> unresponsive.  If you want that info see the man page.  unless users
> install gawk themselves then Aaron's years of gawk effort are
> irrelevant.

Best talk to the mawk/gawk maintainer (the same person maintains both,
so I'm guessing he has his reasons).

[Snip ad hominems - I'm sure you're getting my point, filing bugs is far
more effective than complaints about how the GNU label is undeserved.]

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