order of IDE drives in lenny
I needed to re-install my Debian system due to a disk failure. (Used to be etch, now lenny.) I have a new primary IDE master to which I installed, and I also have an IT8212 IDE card in the machine. For some reason when booting, the IT8212 gets assigned the /dev/hda-hdd, while the onboard controller is assigned /dev/hde-hdh. During installation the onboard controler was / dev/hda-hdd, and therefore the root file system is not at its right place when booting, so the system does not start. How can I tell the kernel the order of loading the controllers? I temporarily removed the IT card, but I will need it and the drive attached to it. Now, however, the onboard IDE is /dev/hda-hdd, and the system is running.
order of IDE drives in lenny ..
I needed to re-install my Debian system due to a disk failure. (Used to be etch, now lenny.) I have a new primary IDE master to which I installed, and I also have an IT8212 IDE card in the machine. For some reason when booting, the IT8212 gets assigned the /dev/hda-hdd, while the onboard controller is assigned /dev/hde-hdh. During installation the onboard controler was / dev/hda-hdd, and therefore the root file system is not at its right place when booting, so the system does not start. How can I tell the kernel the order of loading the controllers? I temporarily removed the IT card, but I will need it and the drive attached to it. Now, however, the onboard IDE is /dev/hda-hdd, and the system is running. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
Joe Hart wrote: > Tim Wood wrote: >> I'm another who has problems with the latest upgrade in sid's xorg. > >> My video is ATI Radeon X1600, which requires the proprietary fglrx >> driver. This has been running well on my HP NX8420 giving me the full >> 1680*1050 resolution. The problem now as reported in Xorg.0.log: > >> (II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc." >>compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.28.8 >>Module class: X.Org Video Driver >>ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0 >> [R200Setup] X version mismatch - detected X.org 1.3.0.0, required X.org >> 7.1.0.0 > >> I upgraded from a 2.6.18 kernel to 2.6.20 but module-assistant can't >> even compile the module. It compiles OK on 2.6.18, but trying to load it >> gives the error above. I was interested to note that Xorg.0.log reports >> the version as 1.3.0.0, matching the error above. [...] > > Blame ATI. Their driver do not work with the newer kernel, and a rumor > has it that M$ is behind the deal because ATI is the supplier for the > video in the xbox 360. The only solution until ATI gets off their butts > and fixes their drivers is for you to use the free drivers. > > There are 2. radeon and ati. Neither are as good as the older fglrx, > but the radeon version can at least handle GL. > The newest fglrx-driver from ATI 8.36.5 supports kernel 2.6.20.x. But for the other problem, the detection of X.org 1.3.0.0, I'm not sure. For the case of the closed source driver, may I call your attention to the ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M Linux Driver Petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/x200MLin/petition.html ? Maybe this is the way to reach hardware vendors if they don't ask their customers by them self like Dell did. -- Regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
google earth, pango
Hi, I have a problem. 2 tools I have tried give me such an output and wont work: 1. pcsx2 (NOT from debian repository) (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means there was an error in the creation of: '/etc/pango/pango.modules' You should create this file by running pango-querymodules. (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: pango_shape called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_glyph_extents called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_font_map called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: _pango_cairo_font_install called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed and so on ... 2. google earth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin Verifying archive integrity... All good. Uncompressing Google Earth for GNU/Linux 4.0.2735.0.. (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means there was an error in the creation of: '/etc/pango/pango.modules' You should create this file by running pango-querymodules. (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_shape called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_glyph_extents called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (setup.gtk2:5929): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_font_map called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: _pango_cairo_font_install called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_metrics called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed and do on... I dont know if this is a debian related problem or a problem with the software itself. Maybe some of you did have the same problem and might tell me a solution. Thx in advance Greets Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mounting LVM partitions fails after etch upgrade
On 5/6/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 07:27:26PM +0200, David Fuchs wrote: > I mounted (read-only) some of the virtual volumes, to see if the data is > still there... it seems as if there is some 'offset' on the file system, > i.e. > when looking at some file it contains stuff that should be in a completely > different file... or it tells me attempt to access beyond end of device. I gues this confirms that these filesystems are corrupted. > > during the 'normal' boot process (i.e. init=/bin/sh not set) this is the > exact error I get: > > [/sbin/fsck.ext3 (1) -- /var ] fsck.ext3 -a -C0 /dev/mapper/volg1-b > fsck.ext3: no such file or directory while trying to open > /dev/mapper/volg1-b > /dev/mapper/volg1-b: > The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 > filesystem. if the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filsystem > (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and > you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: >e2fsck -b 8192 What happens if you now boot single? Does your root filesystem get fsck'd cleanly? This is the first step. Once you can cleanly get into a single-user root shell life is much better. From here you can again verify that the md arrays and lvs are in good shape automatically and from there you can fsck the filesystems without having them mounted at all. yes, / on md0 does get fsck'd cleanly, whether in single boot or 'normal' boot. I can get into a root shell w/o any filesystem related errors. the problem are all other mounts, which reside on LVM on md1. fsck tells me that there are hundreds of inodes with thousands of illegal blocks. I never had any problems related to fs corruption, and I don't see how a simple system upgrade could cause this. so, I'm still thinking that something with the raid or lvm setup is screwed, but I don't know what or why. as you can probably tell I have never dealt with fixing a broken fs, but I'm afraid that running e2fsck would completely screw my data. what I primarily want is not a fs w/o errors but rescue as much data as possible... thanks, - Dave. Note that e2fsck can take several passes. Also, you don't want the -a option (which is the backward-compatible version of -p) which exists with error code 4 if a problem would require human intervention, since you are there to intervene and don't want it to exit. Let us know how you progress. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IFConfig location
On 02.05.07 13:03, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: > Why is IFConfig in "/sbin"? Now I have to run it as "/sbin/ifconfig" > everytime. Moving it to "/bin" will allow non-super users to get information > about networking easily. it's in /sbin so users who don't care about system things won't be annoyed with it. If you think you need it, you may add paths like /sbin and /usr/sbin to your search path -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. Saving Private Ryan... Private Ryan exists. Overwrite? (Y/N) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
Jörg-Volker Peetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The newest fglrx-driver from ATI 8.36.5 supports kernel 2.6.20.x. But > for the other problem, the detection of X.org 1.3.0.0, I'm not sure. >From my experience fglrx works with kernel 2.6.20 (amd64). But, it cannot use xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0. So you will have to hold xserver-xorg-core to 1.1.1-21 until (at least) the next release. Furthermore, xv is broken with 8.36.5. So currently, I'm stuck with: - fglrx 8.35.* - kernel 2.6.18 - xserver-xorg-core 1.1.1-21 HTH -- Dominique Dumont "Delivering successful solutions requires giving people what they need, not what they want." Kurt Bittner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: timeline application?
Sudev Barar wrote: On 06/05/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there an application that draws timelines? > > That makes much more sense graphically than in prose... Project planners like planner, kfocus & opensched might do the trick, as might vector drawing apps like inkscape, skencil & sodipodi. Look at freemind or kdissert Thanks Ron, Sudev. I'll take a look! Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
On 5/7/07, Tim Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm another who has problems with the latest upgrade in sid's xorg. There is lots of information in the BTS: http://bugs.debian.org/fglrx-driver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: to lvm or not to lvm?
> That sounds like poor implementation, the critical bit is not to let it > iterate without it having worked the first time. I still don't see anything > wrong with the concept as long as it's implemented right, although I've > never dealt with a system on the scale you're talking about. The problem is that your "good implementation" only protects you from the problems you thought about, whereas there will always be some unexpected new situation next time around. Just like the auto-replies for email. The "safe implementation" which only monitors but doesn't try to auto-extend the partitions will be just as useful in 99% of the cases. > I've never seen anything that busy, had a MythTV backed that would sit > with the load average up at 3 or 5 and I though that was "getting my > moneys worth". Problem is not the number of processes, but the amount of disk thrashing going on. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?
David Claughton wrote: Dennis G. Wicks wrote: - These web sites work *on*all*other*systems* I have accessed them from For example? - These are *big*corps* with 1000s of users/customers. If it were a problem on their side I think they would have found and fixed it by now. I wouldn't be so sure about that. Often if the site works in IE they're happy. Can you provide a couple or three example URLs? Maybe if people here can see what you see they might be able to provide more specific advice. Dave. F Yup, I did some javascript work awhile back and thank god for Firefox/Iceweasel. It gives lots of detailed debugging info if you write bad code. Though it still runs it. Actually the problem is with javascripts implementation. It is supposed to very tolerant of code. So developers developing in it only work till "It works" point. Also behaviour is not completely consistent across browsers. Firefox / Iceweasel is actually most compliant to the specification. IE does the same job but not always according to specification. What that means is that you have to write slightly different code for IE and different code for FF/Iceweasel to get the same thing done. And in FF/Iceweasel you do it that way W3C defined it is to be done. IE is the one that does it differently. Don't worry about it unless some functionality breaks. which though I think is quite unlikely. And those big corporations, they are basically writing broken code so that it runs on both IE and FF. Not their fault either. Vibhav Sharma Drishti-Soft Solutions Pvt Ltd SCO-36, Sector 31 Gurgaon, INDIA-122001 P: 91 124 4085120 F: 91 124 4039120 W: http://www.drishti-soft.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
swap
Is it conceivable to add a low-quality 300GB HD (for swap file) to a raid1 system? The system consists of ---Tyan S2895 Thunder K8WE mother board ---Two WD Raptor 150GB each ---Two Dual Opteron ---16 GB ram In computations, I can presently offer 96GB as swap (my home), though it is not enough. Actually I started my system with two Maxtor HD 300GB each, though, on long runs, they proved incompatible with the mother board and had to be replaced. Thanks for advice francesco pietra __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Wood wrote: > I'm another who has problems with the latest upgrade in sid's xorg. > > My video is ATI Radeon X1600, which requires the proprietary fglrx > driver. This has been running well on my HP NX8420 giving me the full > 1680*1050 resolution. The problem now as reported in Xorg.0.log: > > (II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc." >compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.28.8 >Module class: X.Org Video Driver >ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0 > [R200Setup] X version mismatch - detected X.org 1.3.0.0, required X.org > 7.1.0.0 > > I upgraded from a 2.6.18 kernel to 2.6.20 but module-assistant can't > even compile the module. It compiles OK on 2.6.18, but trying to load it > gives the error above. I was interested to note that Xorg.0.log reports > the version as 1.3.0.0, matching the error above. > > I'm thoroughly confused as I thought sid was up to xorg 7.2 but my > installation gives: > > ii xorg7.2-3 > X.Org X Window System > ii xorg-docs 1.2+git20061105-3 > Miscellaneous documentation for the X.Org so > ii xserver-xorg7.2-3 the > X.Org X server > ii xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0.0.dfsg-3 > X.Org X server -- core server > ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev1.1.5-2 > X.Org X server -- evdev input driver > ii xserver-xorg-input-joystick 1.2.1-2 > X.Org X server -- joystick input driver > ii xserver-xorg-input-kbd 1.1.0-4 > X.Org X server -- keyboard input driver > ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse1.1.1-3 > X.Org X server -- mouse input driver > ii xserver-xorg-input-synaptics0.14.6-1 > Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org/XFree86 > ii xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.6.3-2 > X.Org X server -- ATI display driver > ii xserver-xorg-video-v4l 0.1.1-3 > X.Org X server -- Video 4 Linux display driv > ii xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1.3.0-1 > X.Org X server -- VESA display driver > ii xserver-xorg-video-vga 4.1.0-3 > X.Org X server -- VGA display driver > ii xserver-xorg-video-vmware 10.13.0-3 > X.Org X server -- VMware display driver > > The only thing that seems to work is the vesa driver at 1024*768. > > I'd be grateful for any pointers on how to fix this. Should I file a bug? > > TIA, > Tim > > Blame ATI. Their driver do not work with the newer kernel, and a rumor has it that M$ is behind the deal because ATI is the supplier for the video in the xbox 360. The only solution until ATI gets off their butts and fixes their drivers is for you to use the free drivers. There are 2. radeon and ati. Neither are as good as the older fglrx, but the radeon version can at least handle GL. Unfortunately neither radeon or ati cover the X1600, leaving me with vesa. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but we already know that ATI is not one of the better companies when it comes to Linux support. Joe This is my first experience with ATI as all my previous cards have been nVidia. All part of the learning experience I suppose:) Tim - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGPrDeiXBCVWpc5J4RAnH6AJ474/mqTczmcJoK9+YX1ATZIp7jFQCdH1uT 8UzNsFv3IYUCgf6SKGg5W5Q= =8ETr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: swap
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/07 04:53, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Is it conceivable to add a low-quality 300GB HD (for > swap file) to a raid1 system? > > The system consists of > > ---Tyan S2895 Thunder K8WE mother board > ---Two WD Raptor 150GB each > ---Two Dual Opteron > ---16 GB ram > > In computations, I can presently offer 96GB as swap > (my home), though it is not enough. Actually I started > my system with two Maxtor HD 300GB each, though, on > long runs, they proved incompatible with the mother > board and had to be replaced. > > Thanks for advice 96 GIGABYTES of swap space If that's not enough, you need a very large, expensive SPARC or Superdome system. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPv5aS9HxQb37XmcRAmWjAKDRwBFCjInq6La8fbyyzftZypGvWwCgrmn3 zPlhdqyGapYW22EGRMSdWZ8= =2HIr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: swap
Below I mean adding a single HD not to the raid, just as additional space where to point the swap file thanks francesco --- Francesco Pietra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 02:53:07 -0700 (PDT) > From: Francesco Pietra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: swap > To: debian-users , > debian64 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Is it conceivable to add a low-quality 300GB HD (for > swap file) to a raid1 system? > > The system consists of > > ---Tyan S2895 Thunder K8WE mother board > ---Two WD Raptor 150GB each > ---Two Dual Opteron > ---16 GB ram > > In computations, I can presently offer 96GB as swap > (my home), though it is not enough. Actually I > started > my system with two Maxtor HD 300GB each, though, on > long runs, they proved incompatible with the mother > board and had to be replaced. > > Thanks for advice > > francesco pietra > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dominique Dumont wrote: >> From my experience fglrx works with kernel 2.6.20 (amd64). I would recommend using 2.6.21 on new HP laptops. Not sure about this particular one, but on some models ACPI is totally broken with anything before 2.6.21-rc5. And by "totally" I mean "may fry your hardware". Check your fan and temperature readings under load. > But, it cannot use xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0. So you will have to hold > xserver-xorg-core to 1.1.1-21 until (at least) the next release. It can use 1.3.0 just fine, it just refuses to do so because of a dumb version check performed by the driver. Fortunately, there is a fix. Just run one of the attached scripts (NOT BOTH) as root after installing the driver, and it should work. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. > Furthermore, xv is broken with 8.36.5. Just use software scaling or OpenGL output. Whatever works with your media player. Did I mention that fglrx drivers suck? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPwJ/ztOe9mov/y4RAtm+AJ0VOQU0pkAk+RgBQJ85ScWZiNoH+wCgpeec 6wQdyQGt8faOZSbt70fWQOc= =Ps6L -END PGP SIGNATURE- fglrx-hack-32-bit.sh Description: application/shellscript fglrx-hack-64-bit.sh Description: application/shellscript
RE: How do I setup printer?
That's a great tip ... now do you have any equally slick tip for getting Samba to share that printer to the rest of the computers on the LAN? I've gone to http://localhost:901/ and clicked on the Printer icon, but Samba can't seem to find the printer automatically and the help doesn't seem to be suggesting anything useful. > -Original Message- > From: Mark Grieveson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: May 6, 2007 10:42 PM > To: debian-user > Subject: RE: How do I setup printer? > > > Now here is the weird thing ... I did a Gnome -> Places -> Find Files > searching for ppd thinking that if there is an existing > folder I should > use it ... well along with a few other files it found in the > /usr/share/ppd/foomatic-rip/linuxpriting.org-gs-builtin/Samsun > g folder a > file called Samsung-ML-2010-gdi.ppd.gz > > I'm assuming the printconf should have found this file and used it? So > do I need to do something to get printconf to work? or do I continue > with the Linux.org instructions and run alien and then dpkg? > What's the > best way to go? > > Jan > > In a web browser, try opening http://localhost:631/ > This allows you to monitor and set up printers on your system. If you > get nothing, make sure cupsys is installed, and then try again. > > Good luck. > > Mark > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: swap
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/07/07 04:53, Francesco Pietra wrote: >> Is it conceivable to add a low-quality 300GB HD (for >> swap file) to a raid1 system? > >> The system consists of > >> ---Tyan S2895 Thunder K8WE mother board >> ---Two WD Raptor 150GB each >> ---Two Dual Opteron >> ---16 GB ram > >> In computations, I can presently offer 96GB as swap >> (my home), though it is not enough. Actually I started >> my system with two Maxtor HD 300GB each, though, on >> long runs, they proved incompatible with the mother >> board and had to be replaced. > >> Thanks for advice > > 96 GIGABYTES of swap space > > If that's not enough, you need a very large, expensive SPARC or > Superdome system. > I agree, I can't think of any application off the top of my head that would need that much memory. Somehow I think it's a typo and should be 96 MB, but who knows. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGPwYliXBCVWpc5J4RAjYiAJ4iFX8hdCHXD0aFL9hKsz5zC3Ff5ACeMfkB NRkszFpkgIS4Gba+efE35rw= =u0Sa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
[ I was without internet connection over the weekend, therefore I can
only follow up on this now. I don't want to give the impression that I
just wanted to rile people up without really participating in the
discussion. ]
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 18:20:31 -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 4 May 2007 18:30:32 +0200 Florian Kulzer wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 10:09:38 -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > > On Thu, 03 May 2007 18:52:02 -0700
> > > Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > > Kenward
> > > > --
> > > > With or without (religion) you would have good people doing good things
> > > > and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil
> > > > things, that takes religion. --Physicist and Nobel Laureate Steven
> > > > Weinberg
> > >
> > > Even if true, there are different ways to interpret this:
> > >
> > > a) religion increases the number of people who do evil things,
> > > extending {E:E does evil things} and causing it to overlap with
> > > {g:g is a good person}
> > >
> > > b) religion increases the number of good people, extending {g:g is a
> > > good person} and causing it to overlap with {E:E does evil things}
> > >
> > > In any case, I think Weinberg's assertion is ridiculous; no 'good'
> > > atheist has ever done evil? Perhaps he means 'for good people to do
> > > evil in the name of good', but it's still patently false; no 'good'
> > > atheist has ever done evil in the name of a (secular) humanist ideal?
> > > If Weinberg means that a 'good' atheist who does evil is by definition
> > > not good, then this is sophistry; the same can be said about believers.
> > > Apparently scientists, even great ones, can be as ignorant and shallow
> > > as anyone else outside of their areas of expertise.
> >
> > What are, then, your definitions of "good people", "evil things" and
> > "religion"? Which events in human history do you consider to be examples
> > of good people doing evil things without religion being involved?
>
> Good questions, certainly, and difficult to answer well in any context,
> and certainly in an OT discussion on d-u. I'll pass, for now at least,
> on your first. WRT to your second, one example of what I had in mind
> might be the murders and other evil acts committed by some communists
> in the name of communism. While Stalin was as evil as they come, I
> would conjecture that there were communists that one might consider
> 'good' (without providing a definition, but something along the lines
> of well-meaning, unselfish and generally following, or trying to
> folllow, some sort of moral code recognizable as such - I know that's
> not a very good definition) who nevertheless did evil in communism's
> name. Anothe example, for balance, might be certain US military actions
> in Vietnam or even WWII. I believe that there were good (as above) US
> military personnel who committed acts that one might consider evil.
I realize that it is extremely difficult to define these things. My main
point is that it is therefore not immediately obvious that Weinberg's
statement is "ridiculous". I also would like to point out that his work
on the theory of the electroweak force does not rule out that he has
spent time to read religious and philosophical texts, has thought about
these issues and has reached an informed opinion. (An informed opinion
is still just an opinion at the end of the day, of course.) It also goes
without saying that his Physics Nobel prize does not make him more
qualified to judge these things. To my knowledge, he himself has never
tried to use his achievement in that way. I can understand that seeing
his statement cited like it was here tends to put religious people in
the defensive; after all, it sounds a bit like: "A really smart person
has said that religion is evil/wrong/stupid, so there!". Nevertheless I
think it is not justified to assume that Weinberg is "ignorant" and
"shallow".
Unfortunately I have never been able to find a full transcript of
Weinberg's 1999 speech from which the "religion is an insult to human
dignity" quotation is taken. From what I understand he makes these two
points:
- Most people have the capacity to understand, on an intellectual and an
emotional level, the consequences that their actions have for other
people. This results in a built-in "moral compass" which all the "good
people" have. The "evil people", by contrast, are the ones lacking
this moral compass, for example due to certain pathologies which are
recognized in clinical psychology. As far as I know, there are a
number of anthropological studies which show that people from vastly
different cultural backgrounds give strikingly similar answers when
asked about their evaluation of certain ethical problems. While it
easy for all these people to come up with these similar answers, they
often have difficulties to explain any kind of "reasoning" behind
them.
I think this first point does not really pose any problem for
religious p
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Wood wrote: >> > Tim Wood wrote: > > I'm another who has problems with the latest upgrade in sid's xorg. > > My video is ATI Radeon X1600, which requires the proprietary fglrx > driver. This has been running well on my HP NX8420 giving me the full > 1680*1050 resolution. The problem now as reported in Xorg.0.log: > > (II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc." >compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.28.8 >Module class: X.Org Video Driver >ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0 > [R200Setup] X version mismatch - detected X.org 1.3.0.0, required X.org > 7.1.0.0 > > I upgraded from a 2.6.18 kernel to 2.6.20 but module-assistant can't > even compile the module. It compiles OK on 2.6.18, but trying to load it > gives the error above. I was interested to note that Xorg.0.log reports > the version as 1.3.0.0, matching the error above. > > I'm thoroughly confused as I thought sid was up to xorg 7.2 but my > installation gives: > > ii xorg 7.2-3 > X.Org X Window System > ii xorg-docs 1.2+git20061105-3 > Miscellaneous documentation for the X.Org so > ii xserver-xorg7.2-3 the > X.Org X server > ii xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0.0.dfsg-3 > X.Org X server -- core server > ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev1.1.5-2 > X.Org X server -- evdev input driver > ii xserver-xorg-input-joystick 1.2.1-2 > X.Org X server -- joystick input driver > ii xserver-xorg-input-kbd 1.1.0-4 > X.Org X server -- keyboard input driver > ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse1.1.1-3 > X.Org X server -- mouse input driver > ii xserver-xorg-input-synaptics0.14.6-1 > Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org/XFree86 > ii xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.6.3-2 > X.Org X server -- ATI display driver > ii xserver-xorg-video-v4l 0.1.1-3 > X.Org X server -- Video 4 Linux display driv > ii xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1.3.0-1 > X.Org X server -- VESA display driver > ii xserver-xorg-video-vga 4.1.0-3 > X.Org X server -- VGA display driver > ii xserver-xorg-video-vmware 10.13.0-3 > X.Org X server -- VMware display driver > > The only thing that seems to work is the vesa driver at 1024*768. > > I'd be grateful for any pointers on how to fix this. Should I file a bug? > > TIA, > Tim > > > Blame ATI. Their driver do not work with the newer kernel, and a rumor > has it that M$ is behind the deal because ATI is the supplier for the > video in the xbox 360. The only solution until ATI gets off their butts > and fixes their drivers is for you to use the free drivers. > > There are 2. radeon and ati. Neither are as good as the older fglrx, > but the radeon version can at least handle GL. > > >> Unfortunately neither radeon or ati cover the X1600, leaving me with vesa. > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but we already know that ATI is not > one of the better companies when it comes to Linux support. > > Joe > >> This is my first experience with ATI as all my previous cards have been >> nVidia. All part of the learning experience I suppose:) > >> Tim > > Perhaps those hacks that Linas posted will work. I don't know because I ditched my ATI card a while ago and replaced it with a Nvidia one. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGPwcSiXBCVWpc5J4RAnlvAKCMPDFQPUGgQ6+4pMjXhWLQPRET3gCguhRP R/2H94Jv73NO4dFH1woZKCc= =lbOK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: swap
Am Montag, den 07.05.2007, 02:53 -0700 schrieb Francesco Pietra: > Is it conceivable to add a low-quality 300GB HD (for > swap file) to a raid1 system? I guess an non-mirrored drive will have a better performance than a raid1-ed one but still will slow your system down immensely. If getting more RAM isn't possible you could use a solid state disk for swapping. Cheers Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HOWTO:rebuild the Debian kernel + nvidia
Hi, To use the proprietary nvidia driver with the latest Debian kernel in Sid you'll run into troubles. There are two ways around it: 1. Use the Debian kernel and change modpost + the nvidia driver, as documented here: http://grizach.servebeer.com/nvpatch/index.php 2. Change the Debian kernel and use any nvidia driver you desire. This method is documented here: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ and the section in question is 4.2 Rebuilding an official Debian kernel package. However, it omits to tell you some things. Here's what I ran into: 2a. Now where are you getting the kernel source? You could install the Debian linux-source-2.6. But that will download a monolith of 50MB, on my dialup hours of waiting. An alternative is to use the version patches from http://www.kernel.org/. I did that and since 2.6.9 installed each patch on my HDD, so installing the source is trivial: install all of 2.6.9 and each patch version thereafter. 2b. Now what version are you to install? Based on Joey Hess's explanation on this list on 4/27/7 the Debian diff. file *contains* 2.6.20.7, so you have to install up to and including 2.6.20 and then apply http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.20-3.diff.gz that you have to download: cd into the tree of where you installed the kernel source and do: 'zcat (diff.gz file)| patch -p1' That will install all the Debian stuff. 2c. The handbook tells you to 'fakeroot debian/rules debian/build debian/stamps' but that will get a 'permissions denied' error because 'rules' is not executable: change the permissions and make it executable. 2d. The handbook also tells you to 'apt-get build-dep linux-2.6'. I did that and it got me into untold difficulties with bugs 419020 419184 420056 421679. 419020 shows you that to solve the jadetex error also install livetex-full. On my dialup this took a day and a half. 2e. I wanted to change the following in the Debian kernel: turn *off* CONFIG_PARAVIRT, turn *on* CONFIG_PREEMPT, change the timer frequency to 1000Hz, turn *on* the Linux Logo and turn *on* kernel timings. Because I only wanted to build the i386 K7 kernel I changed debian/config and debian/arch/386/config *before* I ran the compile. I think that is the difficult way of doing it and easier would be to follow the handbook after 'It is possible to apply extra patches...' and do those steps and run 'make menuconfig' instead and change whatever you want the easy way. 2f. Then I did 'fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen binary-arch-i386-none-k7' That applies all patches and compiles the kernel, which takes more than an hour on my 2GH Athlon. But it fails the 'abicheck' step. That refers to the 'application binary interface' and the ability of the kernel to house binaries from elsewhere. So *before you start* disable abicheck by changing debian/bin/abicheck.py: put ‘return 0’ on line 19 after ‘ret = 0’. That will generate the linux-image and linux-headers debs. Install them and you're off and running. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Migrating a Server to debian
Hello, I have an "old" server here that runs gentoo and is quite unmaintainable because it hasn't been updated now it still works but I'm not sure for how long :) This is the hardware that's in it [1] I'm especially interested in reports of this one: 06:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Areca Technology Corp. ARC-1210 4-Port PCI-Express to SATA RAID Controller I know that when it was originally set up it was quite a pain in the rear end to get the controller working. So I need a definitive answer before taking the server down to make debian the host system. I know the the module is there and should work from $ grep SCSI_ARCMSR /boot/config-2.6.18-4-amd64 CONFIG_SCSI_ARCMSR=m still someone who tells me to just boot the installer and I'll be fine will surely help me calm down as this is one of our central servers. It will hold a couple of xen instances which run on top of lvm (which really shouldn't be a problem, iirc the etch installer detects lvm fine so that I can just overwrite the old / partitition and leave the data partitions untouched). Also since I got the server from a former sysadmin I'm not to familiar with avaiable tools for that RAID controller - and until now there aren't any installed so I can't even look around on the box for what's there - so any hints are welcome (stuff like getting remaining disk lifetime etc, - the usual smart stuff, whatever there is available) Any Input is welcome thanks in advance martin [1] lspci 00:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a3) 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a3) 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2) 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a3) 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev f2) 00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2) 00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3) 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27) 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5721 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11) 05:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 80332 [Dobson] I/O processor (A-Segment Bridge) (rev 07) 05:00.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 80332 [Dobson] I/O processor (B-Segment Bridge) (rev 07) 06:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Areca Technology Corp. ARC-1210 4-Port PCI-Express to SATA RAID Controller -- Martin Marcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mycorners.com https://www.xing.com/profile/Martin_Marcher http://www.linkedin.com/in/martinmarcher http://www.studivz.net/profile.php?ids=9f83ea8c5996b8ec http://www.amazon.de/gp/registry/wishlist/3KDAGCL2NKOIM/ref=reg_hu-wl_goto-registry/302-4432803-5146435?ie=UTF8&sort=date-added -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: google earth, pango
Gregor wrote: Hi, I have a problem. 2 tools I have tried give me such an output and wont work: 1. pcsx2 (NOT from debian repository) (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means there was an error in the creation of: '/etc/pango/pango.modules' You should create this file by running pango-querymodules. (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: pango_shape called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_glyph_extents called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_font_map called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: _pango_cairo_font_install called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed and so on ... 2. google earth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin Verifying archive integrity... All good. Uncompressing Google Earth for GNU/Linux 4.0.2735.0.. (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means there was an error in the creation of: '/etc/pango/pango.modules' You should create this file by running pango-querymodules. (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_shape called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_glyph_extents called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (setup.gtk2:5929): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_font_map called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: _pango_cairo_font_install called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_metrics called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed and do on... I dont know if this is a debian related problem or a problem with the software itself. Maybe some of you did have the same problem and might tell me a solution. Thx in advance Greets Greg did you install gtk2.0-dev ? s. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: swap
- Original Message - From: "Francesco Pietra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-users" ; "debian64" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:10 AM Subject: Fwd: swap Below I mean adding a single HD not to the raid, just as additional space where to point the swap file thanks francesco --- Francesco Pietra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think people are having a difficult time understanding why you would need that much swap space. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
Linas ½virblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> But, it cannot use xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0. So you will have to hold >> xserver-xorg-core to 1.1.1-21 until (at least) the next release. > > It can use 1.3.0 just fine, it just refuses to do so because of a dumb > version check performed by the driver. Fortunately, there is a fix. Just > run one of the attached scripts (NOT BOTH) as root after installing the > driver, and it should work. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. If it's a dumb check, I guess I should try also to re-build the fglrx driver *once* xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0 is installed. HTH -- Dominique Dumont "Delivering successful solutions requires giving people what they need, not what they want." Kurt Bittner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dominique Dumont wrote: > If it's a dumb check, I guess I should try also to re-build the fglrx > driver *once* xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0 is installed. To make it work _without_ the hack? No, it will not help. The check is performed by fglrx_drv.so, which is not built, but distributed in binary form, and it has the check hardcoded. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPw9lztOe9mov/y4RAkF1AJ4t24e1RPzsokG15SCveuYgGAKnwwCaA/tn WpqqZfb7qeEOPuAONmNF+No= =I7j3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installing X libraries?? -- need your help!
Hello! I'm new in Linux. I installed Debian Linux "Etch" for Intel x86-CPU. Everything is ok. Then I tried to install a kdm theme called "QtCurve- KDE3-0.48.5" and I have to compile it. So I installed the gcc and g++ packages and the kernel sources. This was decribed by an article I googled. Then I started the 3 steps for installtion with ./ configure but it brakes with the following message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test$ ./configure checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking for -p flag to install... yes checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for kde-config... /usr/bin/kde-config checking where to install... /usr (as returned by kde-config) checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3 checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for g++... g++ checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes checking dependency style of g++... gcc3 checking whether g++ supports -Wmissing-format-attribute... yes checking whether gcc supports -Wmissing-format-attribute... yes checking whether g++ supports -Wundef... yes checking whether g++ supports -Wno-long-long... yes checking whether g++ supports -Wnon-virtual-dtor... yes checking whether g++ supports -fno-exceptions... yes checking whether g++ supports -fno-check-new... yes checking whether g++ supports -fno-common... yes checking whether g++ supports -fexceptions... yes checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E checking whether g++ supports -O0... yes checking whether g++ supports -Wl,--no-undefined... yes checking whether g++ supports -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined... yes not using lib directory suffix checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... yes checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking for g77... no checking for xlf... no checking for f77... no checking for frt... no checking for pgf77... no checking for cf77... no checking for fort77... no checking for fl32... no checking for af77... no checking for xlf90... no checking for f90... no checking for pgf90... no checking for pghpf... no checking for epcf90... no checking for gfortran... no checking for g95... no checking for xlf95... no checking for f95... no checking for fort... no checking for ifort... no checking for ifc... no checking for efc... no checking for pgf95... no checking for lf95... no checking for ftn... no checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... no checking whether accepts -g... no checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 32768 checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok checking for objdir... .libs checking for ar... ar checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for strip... strip checking if gcc static flag works... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking for shl_load... no checking for shl_load in -ldld... no checking for dlopen... no checking for dlopen in -ldl... yes checking whether a program can dlopen itself... yes checking whether a statically linked program can dlopen itself... yes checking if libtool supports shared librari
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Linas Žvirblis wrote: > Dominique Dumont wrote: > >>> From my experience fglrx works with kernel 2.6.20 (amd64). > > I would recommend using 2.6.21 on new HP laptops. Not > sure about this particular one, but on some models ACPI is totally > broken with anything before 2.6.21-rc5. And by "totally" I mean "may fry > your hardware". Check your fan and temperature readings under load. > >> But, it cannot use xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0. So you will have to hold >> xserver-xorg-core to 1.1.1-21 until (at least) the next release. > > It can use 1.3.0 just fine, it just refuses to do so because of a dumb > version check performed by the driver. Fortunately, there is a fix. Just > run one of the attached scripts (NOT BOTH) as root after installing the > driver, and it should work. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. > >> Furthermore, xv is broken with 8.36.5. > > Just use software scaling or OpenGL output. Whatever works with your > media player. > > Did I mention that fglrx drivers suck? > After a bit of investigation, I just want to point out that the hacks that you provided are illegal. They directly violate the ATI license agreement that one agrees to when installing the proprietary drivers in the first place. Another reason to boycott ATI video cards. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGPxeiiXBCVWpc5J4RAjAhAKCXaBlAJqtZuZL1L8b0bL4SeaOi3QCfdqIf McYVkXgiluxFiUDwZpnAXW4= =RKxM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing X libraries?? -- need your help!
> Hello! > > I'm new in Linux. I installed Debian Linux "Etch" for Intel x86-CPU. > Everything is ok. Then I tried to install a kdm theme called "QtCurve- > KDE3-0.48.5" and I have to compile it. So I installed the gcc and g++ > packages and the kernel sources. This was decribed by an article I > googled. Then I started the 3 steps for installtion with ./ > configure but it brakes with the following message: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test$ ./configure (...) > checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please > check your installation and add the correct paths! > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test$ > > What should I do, now? Must I install a few packages? > Yes, you're probably lacking some x*-dev package, but I don't remember which one exactly. Maybe x-dev or xlibs-dev? You'll find useful informations in the file config.log like which test program failed and what was the error message. -- Cédric Lucantis
Mount problem for an external USB hard drive
I've a new error when I connect an external USB hard drive. A message tells me: === hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 === So, the user (usar samiel:group samiel, uid 1000) cannot see the device. That user is present in plugdev group and in haldaemon group. Some suggestions to solve? Thanx! MS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
Linas ½virblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To make it work _without_ the hack? No, it will not help. The check > is performed by fglrx_drv.so, which is not built, but distributed in > binary form, and it has the check hardcoded. Ok. Thanks for the info. -- Dominique Dumont "Delivering successful solutions requires giving people what they need, not what they want." Kurt Bittner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: google earth, pango
steef wrote: Gregor wrote: Hi, I have a problem. 2 tools I have tried give me such an output and wont work: 1. pcsx2 (NOT from debian repository) (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means there was an error in the creation of: '/etc/pango/pango.modules' You should create this file by running pango-querymodules. (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: pango_shape called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_glyph_extents called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_font_map called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed (:5861): Pango-WARNING **: _pango_cairo_font_install called with bad font, expect ugly output (:5861): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed and so on ... 2. google earth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin Verifying archive integrity... All good. Uncompressing Google Earth for GNU/Linux 4.0.2735.0.. (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means there was an error in the creation of: '/etc/pango/pango.modules' You should create this file by running pango-querymodules. (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_shape called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_glyph_extents called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (setup.gtk2:5929): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_font_map called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: _pango_cairo_font_install called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_metrics called with bad font, expect ugly output (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed and do on... I dont know if this is a debian related problem or a problem with the software itself. Maybe some of you did have the same problem and might tell me a solution. Thx in advance Greets Greg did you install gtk2.0-dev ? s. Ok, after install this an a few more packages, I looked, tried and succeded in solving this problem. Now I can see ormal fonts with it. BUT google-earth still wont work :/ I started it, I got this google-earth pic on the screen, (initialising) and that it... it uses 100% cpu time but nothing happens. But I rather guess this is not a debian problem...dont know though. My System is: AMD64 Dual 2,9Ghz Ati X1300 (fglrx 8.36.5) , Xorg 7.2.x 2GB Ram Kernel 2.6.20 Using Debian Sid -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mount problem for an external USB hard drive
2007/5/7, Mauro Sacchetto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I've a new error when I connect an external USB hard drive. A message tells me: === hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 === So, the user (usar samiel:group samiel, uid 1000) cannot see the device. That user is present in plugdev group and in haldaemon group. Some suggestions to solve? So the device is mounted but you can not read it. If yes look at /etc/fstab and see if umask is set for your /dev/sda* devices, setting umask=022 for the mount point should work. Thanx! MS raffaele
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: > After a bit of investigation, I just want to point out that the hacks > that you provided are illegal. They directly violate the ATI license > agreement that one agrees to when installing the proprietary drivers in > the first place. Another reason to boycott ATI video cards. I only provided the scripts, not the modified binaries. The scripts contain nothing owned by ATI. I am free to write whatever weird numbers I want, as a bunch of numbers cannot be copyrighted. I can also have any file named "fglrx_drv.so", if I so desire. Whether it is legal for you to use them is debatable, but you are free to choose not to use them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPyg1ztOe9mov/y4RAnDvAJ4ruU2UnWmC0yqKCjjWI/QdBiRW3QCeMGVI qOaSIaUhqKH6PCh6n3dZzu0= =stwl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal
Hello. I had this working in sarge, but somehow things have changed in etch, and I can't see Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal. Currently I have installed packages like cjk-latex, hbf-kanji48, ttf-kochi-mincho, among the japanese-related packages I can remember. In gnome-terminal, going to Terminal->Set Character Encoding->Japanese (EUC-JP) does not work. I have also tried with the current locale (ISO-8859-1), Unicode (UTF-8) and Japanese (SHIFT-JIS). I have generated the locale ja_JP.EUC-JP. I also tried adding xfonts-intl-japanese, but it didn't work. Sure I'm missing something, but I don't know. Any ideas? Regards, Victor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mounting LVM partitions fails after etch upgrade
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:38:30AM +0200, David Fuchs wrote: > On 5/6/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 07:27:26PM +0200, David Fuchs wrote: > yes, / on md0 does get fsck'd cleanly, whether in single boot or > 'normal' boot. I can get into a root shell w/o any filesystem related > errors. Good. Now if only debian's single-user mode didn't start all kinds of extras that need /usr and /var > > the problem are all other mounts, which reside on LVM on md1. fsck > tells me that there are hundreds of inodes with thousands of illegal > blocks. > > I never had any problems related to fs corruption, and I don't see how > a simple system upgrade could cause this. so, I'm still thinking that > something with the raid or lvm setup is screwed, but I don't know what > or why. > > as you can probably tell I have never dealt with fixing a broken fs, > but I'm afraid that running e2fsck would completely screw my data. > what I primarily want is not a fs w/o errors but rescue as much data > as possible... You mean you don't have backups? On which fs is the non-backed-up data? > >Note that e2fsck can take several passes. Also, you don't want the -a > >option (which is the backward-compatible version of -p) which exists > >with error code 4 if a problem would require human intervention, since > >you are there to intervene and don't want it to exit. If I remember previous posts in this thread, this all started after an upgrade and you got an fsck warning that said to run fsck manually and instead of following fsck's advice, you forced a normal mount of unclean filesystems. Any data that's been corrupted has probably already been corrupted. Boot into single-user mode and ensure that non-root fs are totally unmounted. Then run e2fsck -f as many times as it takes to fix. This gets the fs into a consistant state but you may have already lost data. If you had full backups of your data, at this point its probably easier to reinstall. Remember that some of the data lost will be debian's, e.g. corrupted files in /usr/bin. If it were me, I'd get the partition that had my data fixed, back up the data, then do a clean install. For your next install, you may want to review the list archives for threads on the choice of filesystems. Each (except perhaps reiser now) have people who swear by them. Personally, I swear by JFS after bad experience with reiserfs and an experience similar to yours with ext3 where I _did_ follow the instruction to do a manual fsck; it still hosed my data. I had backups. FS corruption is nasty to put it politely. You have my sympathies. Good luck. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Linas Žvirblis wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > >> After a bit of investigation, I just want to point out that the hacks >> that you provided are illegal. They directly violate the ATI license >> agreement that one agrees to when installing the proprietary drivers in >> the first place. Another reason to boycott ATI video cards. > > I only provided the scripts, not the modified binaries. The scripts > contain nothing owned by ATI. I am free to write whatever weird numbers > I want, as a bunch of numbers cannot be copyrighted. I can also have any > file named "fglrx_drv.so", if I so desire. > > Whether it is legal for you to use them is debatable, but you are free > to choose not to use them. > Oh, I quite agree with you. I am debating whether to host these "hacks" on my website because I know many people who have this trouble. I posted a message on a forum about this hack and was asked politely to remove my message because it is "illegal". Now I don't think that is the case, but using the thing is illegal. So, it is similar to manufacturing a firearm. Even if the discharge of a firearm is illegal, doesn't mean that making one is. The hack that you posted is not dangerous, imo. As you point out, it is just a random string of numbers. However, applying this random string of numbers certainly does violate the license. Needless to say, whether one chooses to violate the law or not is their decision. Giving one the path to do so may be considered illegal in some jurisdictions only because it could be interpreted as assisting in breaking the law. That itself is a crime; not everywhere is this so. You do explicitly warn for people to do it at their own risk, which imo, gets you off the hook. If I do end up hosting it, I will give the same warning. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGPy3/iXBCVWpc5J4RAv0TAKCY7vyIKlm9rMkmS/MmF2RI25q1LACeL6um VFb9uXU8AYxoiL5SDPur5uA= =4MCe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reporting problems with unstable
On Sun, 06 May 2007 21:07:20 -0400 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arnfinn Ringvold wrote: > > > Perhaps the unstable team is continously aware of such > > problems and would only be unnececarily bothered by regular users > > sending in reports? > > Anybody can report bugs. I have always found that developers/maintainers are > excited to receive bug reports and fix them. Bugs with patches are the > best, IMHO. I've had mixed results reporting bugs; some have received prompt and sustained attention until resolution, while some have been completely or almost completely ignored. I'm not knocking the devs; they do a tremendous job, often pro bono. I'm just warning people that their MMV with bug reporting. Of course one should still report bugs, since it will often, probably usually, yield some progress or at least a public record of the issue. [snip] > hth > raju > > -- > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi > http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ > http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb/cups printer problem after etch upgrade
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 07:34:30 -0700, Nick Jacobs wrote: > Graham Seaman wrote: > > > > After upgrading the server to etch (without any major problems) cups no > > longer sees the printer. Cups is running ok, and knows about the > > printer, but the web interface always displays the message: > > > > " HL5040 (Default Printer) "Printer not connected; will retry in 30 > > seconds..." > > > > lsusb shows that the printer is there, and visible over wireless: > > > > snoopy: lsusb > > Bus 003 Device 002: ID 13fd:0540 > > Bus 003 Device 001: ID : > > Bus 002 Device 001: ID : > > Bus 001 Device 028: ID 04f9:0016 Brother Industries, Ltd > > Bus 001 Device 001: ID : > > > I had a similar problem and found that what happens is that Etch can assign > a different lp device number to the printer every time it's turned on. So if > your CUPS printer is set up as /dev/usb/lp0, CUPS won't see anything on lp0. > lsusb tells you what the device number is. In your case, it seems to be 28 > (from above). So if you had reconfigured the printer as /dev/usb/lp28, it > would have worked. This means you have to reconfigure the printer every time > you turn it on and off again, which sucks. But at least you will be able to > print. We had addressed possible udev problems already, see here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/04/msg04804.html Udev had created /dev/usb/lp0 with the correct permissions (as far as we could tell). Nevertheless CUPS did not recognize the printer, not via usb:/dev/usb/lp0 and not via usb://?serial= either. Strangely enough, /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb did list the printer correctly as "Brother HL-5040 series". As far as I understand udev, it should always use the lowest free lpX node for a new printer. That can still cause problems if you have several printers that are plugged in or switched on in random order, but you should only ever get "lp28" if there are really 28 other (USB) printers connected already to occupy lp0 to lp27. The maker/model/serial method of specifying the DeviceURI was introduced to avoid the problem of changing lpX numbers. (You can also write your own udev rule to give each printer an additional symlink in /dev/ as an unambiguous identifier; see Andrew's earlier mail.) -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: swap
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:10:11AM -0700, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Below I mean adding a single HD not to the raid, just > as additional space where to point the swap file > thanks Running a raid1 system with non raid swap just doesn't make sense. If the swap drive fails, your system dies horribly possible in ways that could mess up the filesystem. Why make a system with redundancy suddenly have none? Better to buy a pair of those drives and run swap on another raid1. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?
Vibhav Sharma wrote: David Claughton wrote: Dennis G. Wicks wrote: - These web sites work *on*all*other*systems* I have accessed them from For example? - These are *big*corps* with 1000s of users/customers. If it were a problem on their side I think they would have found and fixed it by now. I wouldn't be so sure about that. Often if the site works in IE they're happy. Can you provide a couple or three example URLs? Maybe if people here can see what you see they might be able to provide more specific advice. Dave. F Yup, I did some javascript work awhile back and thank god for Firefox/Iceweasel. It gives lots of detailed debugging info if you write bad code. Though it still runs it. Actually the problem is with javascripts implementation. It is supposed to very tolerant of code. So developers developing in it only work till "It works" point. Also behaviour is not completely consistent across browsers. Firefox / Iceweasel is actually most compliant to the specification. IE does the same job but not always according to specification. What that means is that you have to write slightly different code for IE and different code for FF/Iceweasel to get the same thing done. And in FF/Iceweasel you do it that way W3C defined it is to be done. IE is the one that does it differently. Don't worry about it unless some functionality breaks. which though I think is quite unlikely. And those big corporations, they are basically writing broken code so that it runs on both IE and FF. Not their fault either. Vibhav Sharma Drishti-Soft Solutions Pvt Ltd SCO-36, Sector 31 Gurgaon, INDIA-122001 P: 91 124 4085120 F: 91 124 4039120 W: http://www.drishti-soft.com Well curse words!!! I was afraid that it would turn out to be something along this line. I guess I will give up and do what I have been thinking about for a couple of weeks. Set up a windows machine and stick it down in my server room. Then I can VNC to it to do those "Windows only" things like this topic, Pagemaker, OpenOffice, Opera, etc. It won't be nice or neat, but at least I will be able to get something done instead of beating my head against the wall! Thanks for all the help and suggestions, and sorry for getting upset but it really gets frustrating at times. Again, Thank You All! Dennis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Closed Ports problem
My computer is running Debian Etch. At the beginning, everything was fine but after I'd tried to change my proxy configurations some ports seemed to be closed. Iceweasel and other internet browsers are working fine, but I can't play wesnoth over the internet or use aMsn, Gaim and MLDonkey. I still can use sftp and telnet. I didn't have installed any firewall... What can I do to fix it? Ps: The proxy configurations may be not related to the problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: getting à TnB "loopi" puppet cam to work?
On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 12:27 +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > Hello! > > running through a store i came across that webcam disguised as a > dog-puppet (http://www.t-nb.com)... and bought it without much thinking > about drivers... > > now at home i would like to get it working, but alas i can't get > anything out of it... > > in the syslog i only see that some device was attached, without > specifying, or hinting what, i don't know what driver might work with > it... > > i tryed easycam2 without success... so i am pretty clueless on how to > get this thing working... > > despite this, there should be a way, since i saw those webcams be > displayed at several booths at linux-events... (working...) You need to figure out what kind of hardware is in it, a good first try would be checking the output of "lspci", "lsusb", and dmesg. Anything you can find would be of help, even if it's just a product ID. The alternative is to skim through the manual after any specifications, or carefully opening it up (voiding your warranty?) and checking the hardware. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Random Crashes
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Hello all, Ever since I bought my AMD64 system (AMD 64 3000+, Asus K8U-X motherboard) I've been experiencing random freezes, in which the system completely stops to respond, or sometimes automatic reboots. Sometimes the system halts during boot with a message such as HARDWARE ERROR CPU 0: Machine Check Exception:4 Bank 4: b2070f0f TSC a38a02f0b This is not a software problem! The crashes do not necessarily happen when the system is doing something ram or processor intensive. I can do heavy tasks such as video encoding with no problems, but sometimes the system crashes when it's idle, only background tasks running. Also, the crashes are not so frequent. When I bought the system, it had one stick with 512Mb of RAM. Crashes already happened then. Later I added anoter stick with 1Gb of RAM. I suspected the memory, and ran memtest only. But it was for a short time, so in fact I cannot conclude anything from the lack of errors. So I took of the "old" 512Mb ram module, because it should be the one with problems, since the crashes happened already when I had only that one. The system still crashed. Just to be sure, I put it on again, and only this one, and the system also crashes. The motherboard has two slots for RAM. I tried both modules in both slots, and I did notice that when a module (either one) is in one of the slots, the system crashes just after boot --- at most I can type the password and let KDE start, but it crashes before KDE is fully loaded. With a module in the other slot, then the system is usable most of the times. So, am I really unlucky to have two memory modules with problems, or what else should I suspect? Motherboard? Processor? What would be the possible ways to diagnose the problem? I suggest, install memtester 86 .. and do a intensive memory check I made the experience that many strange things happen when the memory is broken/not working as it should Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mounting LVM partitions fails after etch upgrade
> yes, / on md0 does get fsck'd cleanly, whether in single boot or > 'normal' boot. I can get into a root shell w/o any filesystem related > errors. Good. Now if only debian's single-user mode didn't start all kinds of extras that need /usr and /var > the problem are all other mounts, which reside on LVM on md1. fsck > tells me that there are hundreds of inodes with thousands of illegal > blocks. > > I never had any problems related to fs corruption, and I don't see how > a simple system upgrade could cause this. so, I'm still thinking that > something with the raid or lvm setup is screwed, but I don't know what > or why. > > as you can probably tell I have never dealt with fixing a broken fs, > but I'm afraid that running e2fsck would completely screw my data. > what I primarily want is not a fs w/o errors but rescue as much data > as possible... You mean you don't have backups? On which fs is the non-backed-up data? I do have backups of the most important files on DVDs. everything else was (partially, as space allowed...) backed up to other logical volumes, but everything except / was in volumes on the same volume group on the same disk array, making this pretty useless :( I never even remotely imagined the possibility of all file systems becoming corrupt at once. Mainly I'd like back my /home and /home/vpopmail partitions. > >Note that e2fsck can take several passes. Also, you don't want the -a > >option (which is the backward-compatible version of -p) which exists > >with error code 4 if a problem would require human intervention, since > >you are there to intervene and don't want it to exit. If I remember previous posts in this thread, this all started after an upgrade and you got an fsck warning that said to run fsck manually and instead of following fsck's advice, you forced a normal mount of unclean filesystems. that was probably not the smartest of possible actions... Any data that's been corrupted has probably already been corrupted. Boot into single-user mode and ensure that non-root fs are totally unmounted. Then run e2fsck -f as many times as it takes to fix. This gets the fs into a consistant state but you may have already lost data. If you had full backups of your data, at this point its probably easier to reinstall. Remember that some of the data lost will be debian's, e.g. corrupted files in /usr/bin. If it were me, I'd get the partition that had my data fixed, back up the data, then do a clean install. what I'll do is the following: I'll rip out one of the mirrors so that I always have all data in its current state no matter what happens. then I install a fresh disk, boot the system with some live-cd, copy an image of the old disk to the new one and see how much I can get out of it with a tool like e2salvage. from there I'll install a clean system. and I'll have a look at alternative file systems. For your next install, you may want to review the list archives for threads on the choice of filesystems. Each (except perhaps reiser now) have people who swear by them. Personally, I swear by JFS after bad experience with reiserfs and an experience similar to yours with ext3 where I _did_ follow the instruction to do a manual fsck; it still hosed my data. I had backups. FS corruption is nasty to put it politely. You have my sympathies. Good luck. thanks for all your help! cheers, - Dave. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?
- These are *big*corps* with 1000s of users/customers. If it were a problem on their side I think they would have found and fixed it by now. Esp. since in one case the problem prevents logins. This is a flawed argument. They might not care about this problem. Can you use gmail? They might care about FireFox. Others might not. Perhaps you should complain to them or chech their FAQs to see what happens. Also, in the first email, you ask a non-specific question. Please, ask a more specific question so you can receive the help you need. I am having problems with some web pages not working. (Not working means just that. The details vary from page to page.) That should be: I am trying to log in in example.com using the lastest Firefox in Sarge, and I get this error: "XXX". I cannot login in example.org with a similar problem, but the message says: "YYY.". Has anybody else experienced this problem? How can I fix it? Regards, N.- -- http://arhuaco.org http://emQbit.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Closed Ports problem
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:30:52AM -0300, Lucas Prado Melo wrote: > My computer is running Debian Etch. At the beginning, everything was > fine but after I'd tried to change my proxy configurations some ports > seemed to be closed. Iceweasel and other internet browsers are working > fine, but I can't play wesnoth over the internet or use aMsn, Gaim and > MLDonkey. I still can use sftp and telnet. > I didn't have installed any firewall... > What can I do to fix it? > > Ps: The proxy configurations may be not related to the problem. > What about the MTU value ? You can get it from the ifconfig command. Mine : bond0 Lien encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:17:31:A3:FF:31 inet adr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Masque:255.255.255.0 adr inet6: fe80::217:31ff:fea3:ff31/64 Scope:Lien UP BROADCAST RUNNING MASTER MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:21042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:21580 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:0 RX bytes:2621709 (2.5 MiB) TX bytes:18100026 (17.2 MiB) So 1500 here. -- Franck Joncourt http://www.debian.org http://smhteam.info/wiki/ GPG server : pgpkeys.mit.edu Fingerprint : C10E D1D0 EF70 0A2A CACF 9A3C C490 534E 75C0 89FE signature.asc Description: Digital signature
etch in amd64: system freezes
Dear list, I have installed etch in a new AMD64 machine. My problem is the following: after a very little activity in the Gnome desktop, the system freezes (even an open window terminal freezes) and only a hard reboot bring the system back. If during the boot I interrupt the window manager with ctrl+alt+f11 and switch to a terminal, with alt+f1 for example, the system works perfectly. The problem seem to be with the graphical interface. I ran memtest86+, and everything is ok, no error was reported. My system is the following: CPU: Athlon64 2043 MHz Mem: 1024 Mb Chipset: VIA K8T800 pro (Abit AV8 motherboarad) RAM: 204 MHz (DDR408) / CAS: 3-3-3-8 /DDR-1 (128 bits) Video card: ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP) I googled the internet and looked the debian arquives too (debian-user and debian-amd64), but I didn't find any clue. I will appreciate very much any help. Thanks in advance Marcelo -- Marcelo Chiapparini DFT-IF/UERJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:22:28AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > I was afraid that it would turn out to be something along this line. > > I guess I will give up and do what I have been thinking about for > a couple of weeks. Set up a windows machine and stick it down in > my server room. Then I can VNC to it to do those "Windows only" > things like this topic, Pagemaker, OpenOffice, Opera, etc. It won't > be nice or neat, but at least I will be able to get something done > instead of beating my head against the wall! What happens if you try Konqueror? Just Konq, not necessarily the whole KDE. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: order of IDE drives in lenny ..
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 12:04:28AM -0700, Towncat wrote: > I needed to re-install my Debian system due to a disk failure. (Used > to be etch, now lenny.) I have > a new primary IDE master to which I installed, and I also have an > IT8212 IDE card in the machine. For some reason when booting, the > IT8212 gets assigned the /dev/hda-hdd, while the onboard controller is > assigned /dev/hde-hdh. During installation the onboard controler was / > dev/hda-hdd, and therefore the root file system is not at its right > place when booting, so the system does not start. How can I tell the > kernel the order of loading the controllers? > > I temporarily removed the IT card, but I will need it and the drive > attached to it. Now, however, the onboard IDE is /dev/hda-hdd, and the > system is running. I ran into exactly this problem a few months ago on my server. The problem is that I don't remember exactly how I solved it. However, there are two solutions that come to mind: 1. move from using /dev/hd* names to Labels or UUID's for your disks. Check the archives of this list for more info. 2. if you don't need the disks on IT8212 during boot, then just exclude that module from the initrd. Then you can let udev find it after pivot root. by then you primary IDE will already be assigned. hth A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
My thanks for all the comments. I tried the latest ATI driver 8.36.5 but the included check.sh shows the Xserver as 1.3.0 and there is no target for that. In regard to the HP Nx 8420 itself, it is 3 months old, ACPI works on both the 2.6.18 and 2.6.20 kernels in the 686 and AMD64 versions. Guess I'm just going to have to wait for it to be sorted out. I'm not sure I have the skills to go back to the previous X version. Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I setup printer?
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:52:50AM -0400, Jan Sneep wrote: > That's a great tip ... now do you have any equally slick tip for getting > Samba to share that printer to the rest of the computers on the LAN? I've > gone to http://localhost:901/ and clicked on the Printer icon, but Samba > can't seem to find the printer automatically and the help doesn't seem to be > suggesting anything useful. > http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/sharing_with_windows.html http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 A > > -Original Message- > > From: Mark Grieveson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: May 6, 2007 10:42 PM > > To: debian-user > > Subject: RE: How do I setup printer? > > > > > > Now here is the weird thing ... I did a Gnome -> Places -> Find Files > > searching for ppd thinking that if there is an existing > > folder I should > > use it ... well along with a few other files it found in the > > /usr/share/ppd/foomatic-rip/linuxpriting.org-gs-builtin/Samsun > > g folder a > > file called Samsung-ML-2010-gdi.ppd.gz > > > > I'm assuming the printconf should have found this file and used it? So > > do I need to do something to get printconf to work? or do I continue > > with the Linux.org instructions and run alien and then dpkg? > > What's the > > best way to go? > > > > Jan > > > > In a web browser, try opening http://localhost:631/ > > This allows you to monitor and set up printers on your system. If you > > get nothing, make sure cupsys is installed, and then try again. > > > > Good luck. > > > > Mark > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: (solved)Re: why these files can't be displayed properly by gv
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 08:09 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Serena Cantor wrote: > > Thank you for your efforts! > > I convert it to pdf with ps2pdf, then open it with Adobe Reader of Windows, > > it's fine. > > --- Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 15:10 -0700, Serena Cantor wrote: > >>> I have sarge and gv, I find tutorial below is useful: > >>> > >>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/docs/unix-tutorials/courses/unix.ps > >>> > >>> however, it can't be displayed properly by gv > >>> > >>> what's the problem? > >> It doesn't display properly in a few viewers I used to display it. It > >> might be that it is in "booklet" format. Which means two facing pages > >> per landscape page. > >> > >> I did: > >> wget http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/docs/unix-tutorials/courses/unix.ps > >> ps2pdf unix.ps > >> > >> Opened it in doc-viewer (evince) and it opened just fine. > >> > >> Again, multiple viewers I used, 6 in total that are supposed to be able > >> to look at .ps files easily, not one could properly render it past the > >> first 3 characters. In the middle of the lefthand side, "An I" is all I > >> got to see. > > A shame that one has to keep 6 viewers on their system. You'd think one > or two would be enough. No, I don't keep 6 viewers on my system. I have the luxury of running a Linux distribution called "Debian". It allows me to install use and remove packages very easily. I really believe it is the "shizzle for my izzle" as I can do nearly anything I want without having to compile or convert these packages. I don't have to worry about dependency issues or anything of the like. That said, I can also remove the packages just as easily. Which I did. > >> My guess, the landscape format is killing it. Plus the file is 14 years > >> old, back then postscript was slightly different than it is now. > > You're probably right. I hope so. Of course, you really need to switch to Debian Linux. (-; -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Random Crashes
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 04:54:18PM +0200, Gregor wrote: > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > >So I took of the "old" 512Mb ram module, because it should be the > >one with problems, since the crashes happened already when I had only > >that one. The system still crashed. Just to be sure, I put it on again, > >and only this one, and the system also crashes. The motherboard has two > >slots for RAM. I tried both modules in both slots, and I did notice that > >when a module (either one) is in one of the slots, the system crashes > >just after boot --- at most I can type the password and let KDE start, > >but it crashes before KDE is fully loaded. With a module in the other > >slot, then the system is usable most of the times. > > > >So, am I really unlucky to have two memory modules with problems, or > >what else should I suspect? Motherboard? Processor? What would be the > >possible ways to diagnose the problem? To me it sounds like a hardware fault somewhere along the path to the memory slots with more problem on one than the other. I'd say swap the processor but most people don't have a spare hanging around (ditto spare MBs), and there's the heat-sink issue. Do you have a spare system that takes the same kind of memory you can try your sticks in? As I see it, the problem with relying on something like memtest is that it tests the whole memory system not just the sticks; a faulty MB on the memory path can show as bad memory. As far as what to suspect, there's really only three things: MB, CPU, memory sticks. Suspect all. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: google earth, pango
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 10:29 +0200, Gregor wrote: > Hi, I have a problem. > > 2 tools I have tried give me such an output and wont work: > > 1. pcsx2 (NOT from debian repository) > [snip] > (:5861): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: > assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed > > and so on ... > > > 2. google earth > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin > Verifying archive integrity... All good. > Uncompressing Google Earth for GNU/Linux > 4.0.2735.0.. > > (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically > loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. > This probably means there was an error in the creation of: > '/etc/pango/pango.modules' > You should create this file by running pango-querymodules. > > (setup.gtk2:5929): Pango-WARNING **: pango_shape called with bad font, > expect ugly output [snip] > > and do on... > > > I dont know if this is a debian related problem or a problem with the > software itself. > Maybe some of you did have the same problem and might tell me a solution. For the second problem, I can suggest installing googleearth-package. as root: apt-get install googleearth-package make-googleearth-package As far as the first problem, I have the following pango (and pango related) packages installed and receive no problems like you posted: libpango1-ruby 0.15.0-1.1+b1 Pango bindings for the Ruby libpango1.0-0 1.16.2-2 Layout and rendering of int libpango1.0-common 1.16.2-2 Modules and configuration libsdl-pango1 0.1.2-1 text rendering with Pango Cheers. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: etch in amd64: system freezes
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 12:47:20PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > > I have installed etch in a new AMD64 machine. My problem is the > following: after a very little activity in the Gnome desktop, the system > freezes (even an open window terminal freezes) and only a hard reboot > bring the system back. > If during the boot I interrupt the window manager with ctrl+alt+f11 and > switch to a terminal, with alt+f1 for example, the system works > perfectly. The problem seem to be with the graphical interface. > I have the same problem on both amd64 on a new athlon box and on i386 on a PII, with any app that uses a lot of resources (e.g. Konqueror) either local or remote. E.g. from the PII's xterm, ssh to the athlon, run konqueror so that it displays on the PII's screen. Eventually the PII's xorg will use more and more virtual memory until the system thrashes so much that its like its frozen. For me, I didn't know about the F11 trick, I'll have to try that. Ctrl-Alt-BS does not work, neither does sshing in (times out before I get a shell) so I have to power cycle the box. Same thing happens on the athlon from time to time. I tried without a window manager (just rxvt) with the same effect. Looking at the bugs for Xorg there seem to be a few related to this. I'm very disappointed with Xorg but there doesn't seem to be a choice at this point if I want X. Luckily, I only use X for web browsing, pdf reading, and graphic editing. Everything else is CLI. I'm just waiting and watching the Xorg bugs; I hope there will be a fix soon. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: swap
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:03:00AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:10:11AM -0700, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > Below I mean adding a single HD not to the raid, just > > as additional space where to point the swap file > > thanks > > Running a raid1 system with non raid swap just doesn't make sense. If > the swap drive fails, your system dies horribly possible in ways that > could mess up the filesystem. Why make a system with redundancy > suddenly have none? Better to buy a pair of those drives and run swap > on another raid1. > > -- > Len Sorensen > > To answer the original question: Yes, it is possible. As the other respondents have indicated, you would be facing some increased risk and the question is whether the increased risk is an acceptable trade-off for you. If I really, really needed the performance, I'd put the swap on 2 striped raid0 drives. I'd probably mount every partition except /var and /home/workplace read-only though. Patrick. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: swap
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 05:24 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/07/07 04:53, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > Is it conceivable to add a low-quality 300GB HD (for > > swap file) to a raid1 system? > > > > The system consists of > > > > ---Tyan S2895 Thunder K8WE mother board > > ---Two WD Raptor 150GB each > > ---Two Dual Opteron > > ---16 GB ram > > > > In computations, I can presently offer 96GB as swap > > (my home), though it is not enough. Actually I started > > my system with two Maxtor HD 300GB each, though, on > > long runs, they proved incompatible with the mother > > board and had to be replaced. > > > > Thanks for advice > > 96 GIGABYTES of swap space > > If that's not enough, you need a very large, expensive SPARC or > Superdome system. I've part-time admin'd (contracted) a couple of systems that required 128GB of swap during batch processing "middle of the night" setups. Primarily because of the inner looping of some of the jobs and the amount of "stored" info hanging in memory. Rather than fix the batch processing system, which came from an AS400 (which originally was on an IBM 36 system), the company suggested swap as a workaround. This is a medical billing system that has been around since... the 70's and has only been extended and never "refactored" or optimized. The reason being, they are afraid that the system will break. Being written in COBOL and some kind of JPL. Lets just say that the whole batching thing could easily be done dynamically, but would require a huge amount of work to re-factor and optimize the code for machines being produced now-a-day. But the fact that this package cost upward of $500K for maintenance per year per machine running it, says a lot doesn't it. Its a milker. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
On 07 May 2007, Tim Wood wrote: > My thanks for all the comments. > > I tried the latest ATI driver 8.36.5 but the included check.sh shows the > Xserver as 1.3.0 and there is no target for that. > > In regard to the HP Nx 8420 itself, it is 3 months old, ACPI works on > both the 2.6.18 and 2.6.20 kernels in the 686 and AMD64 versions. > > Guess I'm just going to have to wait for it to be sorted out. I'm not > sure I have the skills to go back to the previous X version. > > Tim > As I have an ATI Mobile X1400 in my Thinkpad Z61M there is no option to use a different graphics card. Reverting to the previous version of Xorg was perfectly simple, however. I just removed xserver-xorg, pointed /etc/apt/sources.list at testing and reinstalled. I've now placed xserver-xorg-core on hold. -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Linux Gnu-Debian http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, on-line books and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: swap
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:55:56AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > I've part-time admin'd (contracted) a couple of systems that required > 128GB of swap during batch processing "middle of the night" setups. > Primarily because of the inner looping of some of the jobs and the > amount of "stored" info hanging in memory. Rather than fix the batch > processing system, which came from an AS400 (which originally was on an > IBM 36 system), the company suggested swap as a workaround. How much memory and swap did the program have to play with on an AS400 or 36? To generalize the problem, given that the software can't be changed, at what point do you start to look at either a bigger single computer or a cluster that looks like a bigger computer? For me its just an intelectual exercise; I went from a 486 with 32 MB swap to an Athlon with 1GB in a single bound. That Xorg makes _that_ swap really burns me up. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: swap
Len, Patrick: Thanks. Actually, I didn't see the original by Len. Well, security comes first. Also, the idea of setting in a cheap HD was a faulty idea anyway because I am at WD Raptor just because cheap HDs didn't work on long runs. The mentioned Tyan mother board has 4 SATA ports, two, I suppose, already occupied by raid1. Following the suggestion by Len, is that possible to install another raid1 (just for additional disk space, say swap) while preserving the current Debian amd64 etch on present raid1 (Linux driven)? This machine is ssh with Debian i386 as graphical interface on another machine so that reinstalling everything on new HDs would not be attractive. Also, I am pressed to fish some computations. Thanks again francesco --- Patrick Albuquerque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:03:00AM -0400, Lennart > Sorensen wrote: > > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:10:11AM -0700, > Francesco Pietra wrote: > > > Below I mean adding a single HD not to the raid, > just > > > as additional space where to point the swap file > > > thanks > > > > Running a raid1 system with non raid swap just > doesn't make sense. If > > the swap drive fails, your system dies horribly > possible in ways that > > could mess up the filesystem. Why make a system > with redundancy > > suddenly have none? Better to buy a pair of those > drives and run swap > > on another raid1. > > > > -- > > Len Sorensen > > > > > > To answer the original question: Yes, it is > possible. > > As the other respondents have indicated, you would > be facing some > increased risk and the question is whether the > increased risk is an > acceptable trade-off for you. > > If I really, really needed the performance, I'd put > the swap on 2 > striped raid0 drives. I'd probably mount every > partition except /var > and /home/workplace read-only though. > > Patrick. > -- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: swap
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:11:36AM -0700, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Len, Patrick: > Thanks. Actually, I didn't see the original by Len. > > Well, security comes first. Also, the idea of setting > in a cheap HD was a faulty idea anyway because I am at > WD Raptor just because cheap HDs didn't work on long > runs. > > The mentioned Tyan mother board has 4 SATA ports, two, > I suppose, already occupied by raid1. Following the > suggestion by Len, is that possible to install another > raid1 (just for additional disk space, say swap) while > preserving the current Debian amd64 etch on present > raid1 (Linux driven)? This machine is ssh with Debian > i386 as graphical interface on another machine so that > reinstalling everything on new HDs would not be > attractive. Also, I am pressed to fish some > computations. > It is possible, swap is dynamic under linux. swapon/swapoff are the tools you are looking for. man swapon Patrick. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I setup printer?
* Jan Sneep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070507 05:56]: > That's a great tip ... now do you have any equally slick tip for getting > Samba to share that printer to the rest of the computers on the LAN? I've > gone to http://localhost:901/ and clicked on the Printer icon, but Samba > can't seem to find the printer automatically and the help doesn't seem to be > suggesting anything useful. Do you have the latest edition of the O'Reilly SAMBA book? It is available on-line without charge. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:22:28AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: I was afraid that it would turn out to be something along this line. I guess I will give up and do what I have been thinking about for a couple of weeks. Set up a windows machine and stick it down in my server room. Then I can VNC to it to do those "Windows only" things like this topic, Pagemaker, OpenOffice, Opera, etc. It won't be nice or neat, but at least I will be able to get something done instead of beating my head against the wall! What happens if you try Konqueror? Just Konq, not necessarily the whole KDE. Doug. Oh yes. Another failed experiment. Running Konqueror from the Gnome Applications>Internet dropdown does nothing. No errors, no new windows or tasks, nothing. If I open a terminal session then; dgwicks:~$ konqueror Floating point exception dgwicks:~$ I installed it with apt-get and it only installed a couple of things extra. All appeared reasonable. I first tried aptitude and it wanted to delete half of my system. Probably thought I was changing from Gnome to KDE. I replied 'n' to the prompt. Just as an aside, it seems most of the things that fail on my system get a floating point exception. Is that a clue to something? Thanks for the help! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: swap
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 12:15 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:55:56AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > I've part-time admin'd (contracted) a couple of systems that required > > 128GB of swap during batch processing "middle of the night" setups. > > Primarily because of the inner looping of some of the jobs and the > > amount of "stored" info hanging in memory. Rather than fix the batch > > processing system, which came from an AS400 (which originally was on an > > IBM 36 system), the company suggested swap as a workaround. > > How much memory and swap did the program have to play with on an AS400 > or 36? Things are allocated differently on the AS400 and different differently on the 36. There really isn't a way compare them, easily. Plus the "extending" has had deleterious effects on the currently supported implementations. They no longer support the "other" platforms as they don't have enough experience with them. They are trying to move everything to "Windows" as that is what everyone is asking for. > To generalize the problem, given that the software can't be changed, at > what point do you start to look at either a bigger single computer or a > cluster that looks like a bigger computer? For me its just an > intelectual exercise; I went from a 486 with 32 MB swap to an Athlon > with 1GB in a single bound. That Xorg makes _that_ swap really burns me > up. Cluster? HA! Bigger Single computer? HA! They have 8 processor machines with 64GB of memory already. The batch process can only utilize 1 processor. The other 7 processors, are basically idle. I've trended the entire machine for them. If they could LPAR the machine(s) out, they'd be marvelously happy. But they would need to get the memory upto 512MB or better and then multi-path IO for the swap... sheesh. It would be cheaper to just buy another machine and add it, but then they already have 3 hours at worst, 4 hours at best, of growth left. In any case, a "pre-batch" program assigns jobs to each machine, it takes nearly an hour to estimate loads. Again single processor usage. This whole package was never meant to scale. But it has been forced to. It also was meant to be a temporary fix until a new system was to be spec'd and written. Nothing ever came of the effort in the 70's and was dropped when this was "good enough". -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?
If I open a terminal session then; dgwicks:~$ konqueror Floating point exception dgwicks:~$ That's not normal. Can you describe what system you have - hardware and software (sorry, maybe you said distro somewhere before, but i'm too lazy to follow). Can you provide output of: aptitude search linux-image | grep ^i cat /etc/debian_version cat /etc/apt/sources.list cat /proc/cpuinfo Regards, atis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: order of IDE drives in lenny
Towncat wrote: I needed to re-install my Debian system due to a disk failure. (Used to be etch, now lenny.) I have a new primary IDE master to which I installed, and I also have an IT8212 IDE card in the machine. For some reason when booting, the IT8212 gets assigned the /dev/hda-hdd, while the onboard controller is assigned /dev/hde-hdh. During installation the onboard controler was / dev/hda-hdd, and therefore the root file system is not at its right place when booting, so the system does not start. How can I tell the kernel the order of loading the controllers? I temporarily removed the IT card, but I will need it and the drive attached to it. Now, however, the onboard IDE is /dev/hda-hdd, and the system is running. You will need to use either the LABEL=... or GUID=... options in your boot and fstab files. There have been several posts on this topic, going into the gorry details (several from me, try searching the archives for them). A quick synopsis: you need to be sure there is a usable 'label' on your disk partitions (programs to check/create labels vary per FS used). But in all cases, if you have a root partition with a label of just slash (/) you will need to change it to something like '/root' in order to use it. GUID values are automatically created, but are very long values. They are most useful for USB devices that migrate from system to system, as they should be unique even across systems. You will need to add the proper line to the boot configuration for the root partition, so the kernel uses it, and use labels/GUIDs for all mountable partitions mentioned in /etc/fstab. Bob smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: google earth, pango
For the second problem, I can suggest installing googleearth-package. as root: apt-get install googleearth-package make-googleearth-package As far as the first problem, I have the following pango (and pango related) packages installed and receive no problems like you posted: libpango1-ruby 0.15.0-1.1+b1 Pango bindings for the Ruby libpango1.0-0 1.16.2-2 Layout and rendering of int libpango1.0-common 1.16.2-2 Modules and configuration libsdl-pango1 0.1.2-1 text rendering with Pango Cheers. Him, I did that... but nothing changed. I get no errors, nothing seems to fails.. the I just see that google-earth screen (the picture), the dock says "google earth initializing" and thats it. Nothing more happens.. it doesnt crash, if I kill it, no error message. Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
does a home user on dialup need a domain name?
I have a few computers connected by ethernet switch with one computer (titan: 192.168.1.1) accessing the network by dial-up modem and providing some services to my network: e.g. dnsmasq, exim4 smarthost, ntp, but nothing to the internet. It also runs shorewall for good measure. Everything works fine. Samhain complains that the box doesn't have a FQDN. My old 486 (reliant: 192.168.1.2) I'm trying different OSs that will install. NetBSD's sendmail tries twice to get a FQ name (which slows down the boot) but then gives up and just uses 'reliant'. The old installer asks for one's domain name but says its ok to leave blank if there is none. Etch's (if I remember right) asks for it and says that if one is stand-alone to just make one up (I left it blank). Should I have one and if so, where all do I have to put it? Below, I've added my /etc/hosts Thanks, Doug. /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.1.1 titan 192.168.1.2 reliant 192.168.1.3 pluto 192.168.1.4 comet 192.168.1.5 rocky # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random Crashes
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 04:54:18PM +0200, Gregor wrote: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: So I took of the "old" 512Mb ram module, because it should be the one with problems, since the crashes happened already when I had only that one. The system still crashed. Just to be sure, I put it on again, and only this one, and the system also crashes. The motherboard has two slots for RAM. I tried both modules in both slots, and I did notice that when a module (either one) is in one of the slots, the system crashes just after boot --- at most I can type the password and let KDE start, but it crashes before KDE is fully loaded. With a module in the other slot, then the system is usable most of the times. So, am I really unlucky to have two memory modules with problems, or what else should I suspect? Motherboard? Processor? What would be the possible ways to diagnose the problem? To me it sounds like a hardware fault somewhere along the path to the memory slots with more problem on one than the other. I'd say swap the processor but most people don't have a spare hanging around (ditto spare MBs), and there's the heat-sink issue. Do you have a spare system that takes the same kind of memory you can try your sticks in? As I see it, the problem with relying on something like memtest is that it tests the whole memory system not just the sticks; a faulty MB on the memory path can show as bad memory. As far as what to suspect, there's really only three things: MB, CPU, memory sticks. Suspect all. Doug. I recently purchased a Turion x64 dual core based HP laptop, and have loaded the AMD64 build of Debian stable (etch). The system installed OK but on booting the newly installed system, it would freeze (hard) at unpredictable points. After much googling, searching the HP FAQ's for their Debian support (not available for any laptops, but on servers - however, there are known issues with hangs like this), and so on, it looks like the problem is kernel support/interaction with the APIC system. The HP FAQ is here: http://h20219.www2.hp.com/services/cache/442408-0-0-225-121.html No way to tell if this is your issue or not. What worked for me, which at least lets me boot and use the system, was to add 'noapic' to the boot command line (I use grub, so that's in /boot/grub/menu.lst, similar edit for lilo with the 'append=noapic', IIRC). There were other boot options mentioned (I don't have the details at hand, I'm sorry to say), but none of them helped in my case. Hope this is helpful. Bob smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Fwd: swap
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/07 11:28, Patrick Albuquerque wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:11:36AM -0700, Francesco Pietra wrote: >> Len, Patrick: >> Thanks. Actually, I didn't see the original by Len. >> >> Well, security comes first. Also, the idea of setting >> in a cheap HD was a faulty idea anyway because I am at >> WD Raptor just because cheap HDs didn't work on long >> runs. >> >> The mentioned Tyan mother board has 4 SATA ports, two, >> I suppose, already occupied by raid1. Following the >> suggestion by Len, is that possible to install another >> raid1 (just for additional disk space, say swap) while >> preserving the current Debian amd64 etch on present >> raid1 (Linux driven)? This machine is ssh with Debian >> i386 as graphical interface on another machine so that >> reinstalling everything on new HDs would not be >> attractive. Also, I am pressed to fish some >> computations. >> > > It is possible, swap is dynamic under linux. swapon/swapoff are the > tools you are looking for. > > man swapon And swap *files* are usable too. You don't need to pre-allocate swap partitions that you would hardly ever use. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGP2IvS9HxQb37XmcRApT3AJ41htSTOGCrWuItPN6iF2mS89wkIQCeOOqC FiCRMOAfymHGwiD3HuwwX+Q= =Sa0x -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: etch in amd64: system freezes
Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Dear list, I have installed etch in a new AMD64 machine. My problem is the following: after a very little activity in the Gnome desktop, the system freezes (even an open window terminal freezes) and only a hard reboot bring the system back. If during the boot I interrupt the window manager with ctrl+alt+f11 and switch to a terminal, with alt+f1 for example, the system works perfectly. The problem seem to be with the graphical interface. I ran memtest86+, and everything is ok, no error was reported. My system is the following: CPU: Athlon64 2043 MHz Mem: 1024 Mb Chipset: VIA K8T800 pro (Abit AV8 motherboarad) RAM: 204 MHz (DDR408) / CAS: 3-3-3-8 /DDR-1 (128 bits) Video card: ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP) I googled the internet and looked the debian arquives too (debian-user and debian-amd64), but I didn't find any clue. I will appreciate very much any help. Thanks in advance Marcelo I recently purchased a Turion x64 dual core based HP laptop, and have loaded the AMD64 build of Debian stable (etch). The system installed OK but on booting the newly installed system, it would freeze (hard) at unpredictable points. After much googling, searching the HP FAQ's for their Debian support (not available for any laptops, but on servers - however, there are known issues with hangs like this), and so on, it looks like the problem is kernel support/interaction with the APIC system. The HP FAQ is here: http://h20219.www2.hp.com/services/cache/442408-0-0-225-121.html No way to tell if this is your issue or not. What worked for me, which at least lets me boot and use the system, was to add 'noapic' to the boot command line (I use grub, so that's in /boot/grub/menu.lst, similar edit for lilo with the 'append=noapic', IIRC). There were other boot options mentioned (I don't have the details at hand, I'm sorry to say), but none of them helped in my case. Hope this is helpful. Bob smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: does a home user on dialup need a domain name?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/07 11:33, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > I have a few computers connected by ethernet switch with one computer > (titan: 192.168.1.1) accessing the network by dial-up modem and > providing some services to my network: e.g. dnsmasq, exim4 smarthost, > ntp, but nothing to the internet. It also runs shorewall for good > measure. Everything works fine. > > Samhain complains that the box doesn't have a FQDN. > My old 486 (reliant: 192.168.1.2) I'm trying different OSs that will > install. NetBSD's sendmail tries twice to get a FQ name (which slows > down the boot) but then gives up and just uses 'reliant'. > > The old installer asks for one's domain name but says its ok to leave > blank if there is none. Etch's (if I remember right) asks for it and > says that if one is stand-alone to just make one up (I left it blank). > > Should I have one and if so, where all do I have to put it? When installing an OS on my home LAN, I tell it that the network domain name is, simply, "homelan". In Debian, that gets stored in /etc/mailname. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGP2YJS9HxQb37XmcRAmmSAJ9O/4M5EPfPPsPOuiRjVjuz83XDsgCgvzX5 zLDDJZAopBnNxXouxawpleo= =TS5B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?
Atis wrote: If I open a terminal session then; dgwicks:~$ konqueror Floating point exception dgwicks:~$ That's not normal. Can you describe what system you have - hardware and software (sorry, maybe you said distro somewhere before, but i'm too lazy to follow). Can you provide output of: aptitude search linux-image | grep ^i cat /etc/debian_version cat /etc/apt/sources.list cat /proc/cpuinfo Regards, atis OK: dgwicks:~$ aptitude search linux-image | grep ^i i linux-image-2.6-686 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII i linux-image-2.6.18-4-686- Linux 2.6.18 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PII dgwicks:~$ cat /etc/debian_version 4.0 dgwicks:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list #deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main deb http://debian.scribus.net/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ etch non-free #deb http://debian.tagancha.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb-src http://debian.scribus.net/debian/ stable main non-free contrib #deb-src http://debian.tagancha.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://debian.scribus.net/debian/ testing main non-free contrib #deb http://debian.tagancha.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib #deb-src http://debian.scribus.net/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib #deb-src http://debian.tagancha.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contri deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib ##deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free # deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib # deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing non-free dgwicks:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz stepping: 9 cpu MHz : 2593.719 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 1 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr bogomips: 5191.47 processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz stepping: 9 cpu MHz : 2593.719 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 1 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr bogomips: 5187.73 dgwicks:~$ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: order of IDE drives in lenny
Bob McGowan wrote: Towncat wrote: I needed to re-install my Debian system due to a disk failure. (Used to be etch, now lenny.) I have a new primary IDE master to which I installed, and I also have an IT8212 IDE card in the machine. For some reason when booting, the IT8212 gets assigned the /dev/hda-hdd, while the onboard controller is assigned /dev/hde-hdh. During installation the onboard controler was / dev/hda-hdd, and therefore the root file system is not at its right place when booting, so the system does not start. How can I tell the kernel the order of loading the controllers? I temporarily removed the IT card, but I will need it and the drive attached to it. Now, however, the onboard IDE is /dev/hda-hdd, and the system is running. You will need to use either the LABEL=... or GUID=... options in your boot and fstab files. There have been several posts on this topic, going into the gorry details (several from me, try searching the archives for them). A quick synopsis: you need to be sure there is a usable 'label' on your disk partitions (programs to check/create labels vary per FS used). But in all cases, if you have a root partition with a label of just slash (/) you will need to change it to something like '/root' in order to use it. GUID values are automatically created, but are very long values. They are most useful for USB devices that migrate from system to system, as they should be unique even across systems. You will need to add the proper line to the boot configuration for the root partition, so the kernel uses it, and use labels/GUIDs for all mountable partitions mentioned in /etc/fstab. Bob Duh... that first cup of coffee doesn't seem to have helped. That's 'UUID' not 'GUID'. Bob smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: etch in amd64: system freezes
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 12:47:20PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > Dear list, > > I have installed etch in a new AMD64 machine. My problem is the > following: after a very little activity in the Gnome desktop, the system > freezes (even an open window terminal freezes) and only a hard reboot > bring the system back. > If during the boot I interrupt the window manager with ctrl+alt+f11 and > switch to a terminal, with alt+f1 for example, the system works > perfectly. The problem seem to be with the graphical interface. > > I ran memtest86+, and everything is ok, no error was reported. My system > is the following: > > CPU: Athlon64 2043 MHz > Mem: 1024 Mb > Chipset: VIA K8T800 pro (Abit AV8 motherboarad) > RAM: 204 MHz (DDR408) / CAS: 3-3-3-8 /DDR-1 (128 bits) > Video card: ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP) > > I googled the internet and looked the debian arquives too (debian-user > and debian-amd64), but I didn't find any clue. I will appreciate very > much any help. do you have any logs? specifically, look at /var/log/Xorg.log and syslog also, put up a top instance in a terminal on the screen and watch what happens, maybe you can see something take hold of the system. also, is the system really freezing? or is something just grabbing all the cpu or some other resource? do the num lock and caps lock lights respond? in other words, give us some more information about what is happening. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Etch] pppoe problem - unable to ping or lookup
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:27:23AM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > On 5/7/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 07:11:34PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > >> On 5/5/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 05:12:25PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > >> >> Also note that I tried pinging remote ip addresses (like google.com's > >> >> and yahoo.com's) and was unable to get any response. > >> > > >> >is that by ip address or by name? > >> > >> > >> Well it should be clear from my mail below that I pinged their ip > >> addresses, isn't it? > > > >you mean above? Making an assumption about what people are doing can > >lead you down the wrong road. I don't need to tell you how many people > >would claim to be pinging ip addresses when they're not. :-P > > Yep I meant that above line. Ip address means an "ip address" after > all not hostname. And yes may be n00bs don't make a difference > between the two. I'm no expert at all but not a n00b atleast. not implying that you're a noob, just covering the bases. :) > > >> BTW, I saw the problem. As soon as I connect, pppoeconf sets the > >> nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf ... after a few seconds or in a min > >> uet, those ip addresses vanish and get replaced by the ip 192.168.0.1. > > > >as someone else said, if you've got 'zeroconf' (i think, not > >resolvconf) that could be part of the problem. > > I don't have either. > > dhcp is installed and I installed pump too since the dhcp client I saw > at times unable to get any ip at boot. At other times it got without > any error message. do are you running two dhcp clients? that could cause problems for sure. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: VNC usage
Roberto C. Sanchez & others, At Sun, 8 Oct 2006 15:11:51 -0400 Roberto wrote, "The advantage is that vncserver assumes that it is being run by a specific user. ... For a system-wide solution you want XDMCP. ... Please check `man xrdb`." Thanks! I have `man xrdb`, have skimmed through and will study in depth. xserver-xorg and tightvncserver don't work concurrently for me. There should be 1 server which can support a local X client and also VNC clients on other machines. rs> Otherwise, it won't know what applications to start and as whom. Speaking abstractly, an X or VNC client should be able to say this. Hello server. ... I am an authorized client. Please give me a viewer. My display is X x Y pixels and my memory has space for Z bits of color. (Please, don't push it!) ... Please open this document (http://.../), please update my viewer, ... now this document (http://.../) and update my viewer and etc. Regards, ... Peter Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: swap
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:11:36AM -0700, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Len, Patrick: > Thanks. Actually, I didn't see the original by Len. > > Well, security comes first. Also, the idea of setting > in a cheap HD was a faulty idea anyway because I am at > WD Raptor just because cheap HDs didn't work on long > runs. > > The mentioned Tyan mother board has 4 SATA ports, two, > I suppose, already occupied by raid1. Following the > suggestion by Len, is that possible to install another > raid1 (just for additional disk space, say swap) while > preserving the current Debian amd64 etch on present > raid1 (Linux driven)? This machine is ssh with Debian > i386 as graphical interface on another machine so that > reinstalling everything on new HDs would not be > attractive. Also, I am pressed to fish some > computations. Sure. Just add the two new drives, and use mdadm to create another raid1 on the new drives. Should be very simple and should have no effect on your current raid at all. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How do I setup printer?
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: May 7, 2007 11:19 AM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I setup printer? > > > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:52:50AM -0400, Jan Sneep wrote: > > That's a great tip ... now do you have any equally slick > tip for getting > > Samba to share that printer to the rest of the computers on > the LAN? I've > > gone to http://localhost:901/ and clicked on the Printer > icon, but Samba > > can't seem to find the printer automatically and the help > doesn't seem to be > > suggesting anything useful. > > > > http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared- > Printing.html > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/shari > ng_with_windows.html > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 > > A I followed the steps in http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/sharing_with_window s.html to the letter and it didn't work. Luckily the http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 had the two lines I needed to add; Allow From 192.168.1.* in the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file. and do chmod 777 /home/smbprint and now I can print from my Win Xp machine to a printer connected to my Debian server ... yeah !!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Etch install
Hello! I'm new to linux, debian and etch. I've loaded etch onto another computer and am lost. I used the gui loader and expected to get to a place that was helpful but no way. When I power up I get what appears to be a gnome desktop with some games but I have no idea how to get a word processor or open office from here. I thought that would have all been loaded by the installer. I need help. Bob
Re: Etch install
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:23:09PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello! Hi Bob, > > I'm new to linux, debian and etch. I've loaded etch onto another computer and > am lost. I used the gui loader and expected to get to a place that was > helpful but no way. When I power up I get what appears to be a gnome desktop > with some games but I have no idea how to get a word processor or open office > from here. I thought that would have all been loaded by the installer. I need > help. well, first of all, congratulations. Sounds like you've got an essentially flawless installation. Many times the first we hear from someone is during the install process. Obviously you've been through the various GNOME menu's already, right? There is generally a sub-menu call "Office" under the "foot" menu. If not, you'll need to install some stuff. This is where debian really shines: there are literally thousands of freely available programs. The first thing you need to do is get yourself into the package manager. There are several choices available. Probably the easiest for you to get to at this point is "synaptic". This is a GUI package manager that functions pretty much like all the rest, but has a pretty interface. TO get there, select the "Desktop" menu --> Administer --> Synaptic Package Manager. THen you can search for openoffice, or any other app you like. It will allow you to install these things with ease. good luck A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
TeTex to TeXLive
Hey all, So recently, occasionally when upgrading (I use Lenny) I've had to remove some TeX component or other because it now won't depend on TeTeX. So I suppose that that means it's time to get with the program and upgrade to TeXLive, since it actually updates, but I've also heard tell that people experience big problems when moving over from TeTeX instead of just installing TeXLive onto a system without any former TeX installation. Is there some safe way of moving over? Also, (very importantly) does AUCTeX work with TeXLive? Thanks, Amy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I setup printer?
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 02:07:44PM -0400, Jan Sneep wrote: > > From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:52:50AM -0400, Jan Sneep wrote: > > > That's a great tip ... now do you have any equally slick > > tip for getting > > > Samba to share that printer to the rest of the computers on > > the LAN? I've > > > > http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared- > > Printing.html > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/shari > > ng_with_windows.html > > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 > > I followed the steps in > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/sharing_with_window > s.html to the letter and it didn't work. > > Luckily the http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 had the two > lines I needed to add; > > Allow From 192.168.1.* in the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file. > > and do > > chmod 777 /home/smbprint > > and now I can print from my Win Xp machine to a printer connected to my > Debian server ... yeah !!! a couple things to note here: 1. I googled "debian windows print samba" and got those, and many other great hits, on the first page. You would be well served to learn to google-fu to help you with this stuff. There are *vast* quantities of really good linux info on the web, its just a matter of learning the right search terminology. Also, www.debian-administration.org is a great site and has a local search function as well. I use it often. 2. Many debian oriented guides are geared towards "sarge". With "etch" out, we should see those starting to update, but it will be a while. you'll have to make various translations as you go along. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mount problem for an external USB hard drive
Raffaele Morelli wrote: > So the device is mounted but you can not read it. If yes look at > /etc/fstab and see if umask is set for your /dev/sda* devices, setting > umask=022 for the mount point should work. No, because I'm using automount, so the entry cannot be in fstab. I edited /etc/pmount.allow inserting the name of the device, and it seems nor work fine. However, for in that file is written: === # pmount will allow users to additionally mount all devices that are # listed here. === I don't understand if and how is it possible to limit the access to device only to some users... Thanx M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TeTex to TeXLive
On Mon, 07 May 2007 14:53:18 -0400 Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey all, > > So recently, occasionally when upgrading (I use Lenny) I've > had to remove some TeX component or other because it now > won't depend on TeTeX. So I suppose that that means it's > time to get with the program and upgrade to TeXLive, since > it actually updates, but I've also heard tell that people > experience big problems when moving over from TeTeX instead > of just installing TeXLive onto a system without any former I didn't have any problems, but you can always first purge the tetex installation if you want to be sure. > TeX installation. Is there some safe way of moving over? > Also, (very importantly) does AUCTeX work with TeXLive? > Auctex works just fine with texline (all it is interested in is that there is latex/pdflatex to run in the background). It doesn't actually need any latex at all if you don't compile the documents through auctex > Thanks, > Amy > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: does a home user on dialup need a domain name?
On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:33:21 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a few computers connected by ethernet switch with one computer > (titan: 192.168.1.1) accessing the network by dial-up modem and > providing some services to my network: e.g. dnsmasq, exim4 smarthost, > ntp, but nothing to the internet. It also runs shorewall for good > measure. Everything works fine. > > Samhain complains that the box doesn't have a FQDN. > My old 486 (reliant: 192.168.1.2) I'm trying different OSs that will > install. NetBSD's sendmail tries twice to get a FQ name (which slows > down the boot) but then gives up and just uses 'reliant'. > > The old installer asks for one's domain name but says its ok to leave > blank if there is none. Etch's (if I remember right) asks for it and > says that if one is stand-alone to just make one up (I left it > blank). > > Should I have one and if so, where all do I have to put it? > > Below, I've added my /etc/hosts > > > Thanks, > Doug. > > /etc/hosts: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain should solve the problem of the FQDN. > 192.168.1.1 titan > 192.168.1.2 reliant > 192.168.1.3 pluto > 192.168.1.4 comet > 192.168.1.5 rocky > > # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts > ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback > fe00::0 ip6-localnet > ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix > ff02::1 ip6-allnodes > ff02::2 ip6-allrouters > ff02::3 ip6-allhosts > > -- Szia: Nyizsa. -- Finally - A spam blocker that actually works. http://www.bluebottle.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For KDE: Re: how to hide the mouse pointer
Hi Johannes, On 5/4/07, about unclutter you wrote: The following works fine for KDE: 11:16:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more .kde/Autostart/unclutter #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/unclutter $ chmod u+x .kde/Autostart/unclutter I did the following: $ cd ~/.kde/Autostart $ nano unclutter (and entered "#!/bin/bash" & "/usr/bin/unclutter") $ more unclutter #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/unclutter $ chmod +x unclutter $ ls -l -rwxr-xr-x 1 manon manon 31 2007-05-07 20:42 unclutter It works fine, but how do I supply some args like: -idle 1 -keystroke? If I enter "/usr/bin/unclutter -idle 1 -keystroke" in ~/.kde/Autostart/unclutter, it doesn't work at all. At the moment, the cursor disappears after 10 secs, which at least is better than nothing. Thanks in advance, Manon.
Re: TeTex to TeXLive
On 5/7/07, Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 07 May 2007 14:53:18 -0400 Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So recently, occasionally when upgrading (I use Lenny) I've > had to remove some TeX component or other because it now > won't depend on TeTeX. So I suppose that that means it's > time to get with the program and upgrade to TeXLive, since > it actually updates, but I've also heard tell that people > experience big problems when moving over from TeTeX instead > of just installing TeXLive onto a system without any former I didn't have any problems, but you can always first purge the tetex installation if you want to be sure. Ditto for me. The only problem I had was the massive list of localizations that were included by default, which I later purged. -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com http://36pints.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alsactl restore failed ...
Hi! On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 08:30:01AM +0200, Gerard Robin wrote: > I just did apt-get update and upgrade (unstable) Well. Unstable is sometimes unstable :-) > and now I get this > message at boot: > Setting up ALSA ... warning: > 'alsactl restore' failed with error message > 'alsactl: load_state: 1327: no souncards found ...' ... done A guess: you got a new kernel as part of the upgrade? > What can I do to solve this problem ? I don't see enough information here to give a out-of-the-box solution - a bit more diagnostics is required :-| What does /var/log/dmesg say? There's probably some message about the soundcard modules in there. What type of sound card? Assuming it is a PCI card (this usually includes on-board cards too), the relevant fragment of the output from "lspci -v" would be useful... -- Karl E. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jorgensen.org.uk/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://karl.jorgensen.com Today's fortune: I'm sorry a pentium won't do, you need an SGI to connect with us. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Etch install
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:23:09PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello! > > I'm new to linux, debian and etch. I've loaded etch onto another computer and > am lost. I used the gui loader and expected to get to a place that was > helpful but no way. When I power up I get what appears to be a gnome desktop > with some games but I have no idea how to get a word processor or open office > from here. I thought that would have all been loaded by the installer. I need > help. > > Bob You may find it useful to wrap your lines at about 72 characters. Use synaptic - Debian GUI package manager - or, open a terminal and (commands indented by one tab stop below for emphasis only) su - [Give root password] (prompt will probably change to a #) aptitude install openoffice.org When aptitude finishes, exit (will put you back to being a normal user) Synaptic / aptitude and/or apt-get are what you need here. man aptitude will tell you more than enough to get you started :) Hope this helps, Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TeTex to TeXLive
On Mon, 7 May 2007 15:06:50 -0400 "Michael Marsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/7/07, Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 07 May 2007 14:53:18 -0400 > > Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So recently, occasionally when upgrading (I use Lenny) I've > > > had to remove some TeX component or other because it now > > > won't depend on TeTeX. So I suppose that that means it's > > > time to get with the program and upgrade to TeXLive, since > > > it actually updates, but I've also heard tell that people > > > experience big problems when moving over from TeTeX instead > > > of just installing TeXLive onto a system without any former > > > > I didn't have any problems, but you can always first purge the tetex > > installation if you want to be sure. > > Ditto for me. The only problem I had was the massive list of > localizations that were included by default, which I later purged. > The extra something package pulls that in along with it for some reason, I've been wondering if it is a bug for some time now -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with Xorg video
I seem to have lost my video after moving from xfree86 to xorg. The error reported in my xorg log (after many pages of no errors) - (II) I810: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 965G, 965G, 965Q, 946GZ (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:02:0 (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:0) found (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found lspci reports: :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 01) :00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) :00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01) :00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01) :00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01) :00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller (rev 01) :00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 81) :00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Bridge (rev 01) :00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA-100 IDE Controller (rev 01) :00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 01) :00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) :01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02) So, the graphics card is there. Any suggestions? Could the graphics card be half-dead? It works in text mode when I boot up, but X cannot start. If it works in text mode must it also work in graphics mode? Should I get another graphics card? Any suggestions on a good linux compatible card? I am running debian sarge with kernel 2.6.8-2-386 Thanks! Mark
OT - Dilbert on the ethics of e-mail etiquette
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PCI controller issues and stable Debian vs latest ubuntu
I have a background with rh and slack. Am a programmer and prefer the command line. A long-term debian user persuaded me to try ubuntu when I showed an interest in debian. To make a long story short, I've ended up with the kubuntu 7.04, because earlier (and presumably more stable) ubuntu distros didn't recognize my nic card. Below is a dump from lspci. I would welcome comments as to whether the stable debian distribution will recognize these devices. ## --- 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a1) 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 LPC Bridge (rev a2) 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SMBus (rev a2) 00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a2) 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI bridge (rev a1) 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 IDE (rev a2) 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2) 00:08.1 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2) 00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6100 nForce 430 (rev a2) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Unknown device 4353 (rev 14) ## --- I'm entertaining re-installing with deb if it won't be too much trouble, I'd welcome advice on other diagnostics to provide to make this decision. Ubuntu is "sold" on ease of install, but I'd rather spend some more time installing for a stabler platform. thanks tim -- Tim Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palmer, Alaska, USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
etch dual boot on amd-64 system preparations
Dear Debian folks, currently I have installed FreeBSD 6 and Ubuntu Breezy on my AMD 64 system. Everything worked fine, but I decided to upgrade my Ubuntu partition. Due to EOL of Breezy, the difficult upgrade method of Ubuntu amd-64, the fact that I am curious about Debian and I can't loose anything on my FreeBSD partition, I decided to install Debian Etch in stead of the Ubuntu partition. However, as I want to make sure everything goes smooth here are some facts about the situation here and I hope you guys can give me a push in the right direction. 1) I'm using grub on Ubuntu to choose which OS to boot (I've edited some grub configuration files under /etc to let it recognize freebsd) 2) I already backed up most important files on my FreeBSD partition, but the be honest I hope the installation of debian goes so smooth that I won't need the hassle of restoring everything by hand. The questions I have are: 1) Will I need to reinstall grub and edit it again to let it recognize FreeBSD? Or can I choose not to insall grub and will the old one from ubuntu just kick in and let me boot debian instead (I don't think it would be as easy as it sounds) 2) What are the chances of everything going smooth? I want to know if there are risks because I really like the FreeBSD partition and I invested a lot of time to get it the way I want it. Thanks in advanced Dino __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: TeTex to TeXLive
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 15:06:50 -0400, Michael Marsh wrote: > On 5/7/07, Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, 07 May 2007 14:53:18 -0400 >> Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > So recently, occasionally when upgrading (I use Lenny) I've >> > had to remove some TeX component or other because it now >> > won't depend on TeTeX. So I suppose that that means it's >> > time to get with the program and upgrade to TeXLive, since >> > it actually updates, but I've also heard tell that people >> > experience big problems when moving over from TeTeX instead >> > of just installing TeXLive onto a system without any former >> >> I didn't have any problems, but you can always first purge the tetex >> installation if you want to be sure. > > Ditto for me. The only problem I had was the massive list of > localizations that were included by default, which I later purged. I did not have any problems either, and I do not recall any really negative tetex-texlive transition experiences being reported on this list so far. In some rare cases people have found that they had to delete some file(s) in their ~/.texmf-var directory, but that's about it. (Latex gave an error message which pointed out the problematic file(s) if I remember correctly.) -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - Dilbert on the ethics of e-mail etiquette
Rick Thomas wrote: > > http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20070507.html What you do to those people is add an X-Message header to your reply telling them they have a virus called Microsoft Outlook. Or do the two-spaces-then-START thing or whatever it is that makes Outlook think there's an attachment. -- Andrew J. Barr (614) 581-3537 (Verizon Wireless) "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." -- Sinclair Lewis, 1935 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
