Re: Math Programme.

[Dan H]

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:17:43 +0100
Nyizsnyik Ferenc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:31:47 +0100
> Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > You can find Debian binaries on the site now (seems to be for
> > sarge) here: http://sage.apcocoa.org/SAGEbin/linux/32bit/ (or
> > 64bit) Beware though 275MB!
> 
> Yes, I've read it too, and I understand that it could be much less
> if it didn't include Python and other stuff that are already
> installed on my system. That's what dependencies are for!

Actually, that's what packaging is for. Sorting out these dependencies would be 
the first job of a Debian package maintainer, if one came around some day.

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CoverCD Agreement - Linux+ magazine

[Katarzyna Kaczor]

Hello,

My name is Katarzyna Kaczor and I am an editorial assistant in Linux+ 
magazine. 

The next 2/2008 issue of Linux+ will be devoted to Debian 4.0. 
Many thanks to all from Debian community who prpvided us with articles about 
Debian, its installation, configuration, how-tos, tips&trics etc. 

Do you mind if we re-distribute your Software with our publication? 
We would like to feature Debian 4.0 distro on Linux+dvd. Could we also use 
your product logo and graphics?  Could you give me the access to download it 
via FTP. 

Also, I would like to ask you for sending me a CoverCD Agreement. 

I look forward on working with you.  

Thank you in advance for your kind help.

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CoverCD Agreement - Debian

[Katarzyna Kaczor]

Hello,

My name is Katarzyna Kaczor and I am an editorial assistant in Linux+ 
magazine. 

The next 2/2008 issue of Linux+ will be devoted to Debian 4.0. 
Many thanks to all from Linux community who prvided us with articles about 
Debian, its installation, configuration, how-tos, tips&trics etc. 

Do you mind if we re-distribute your Software with our publication? 
We would like to feature Debian 4.0 distro on Linux+dvd. Could we also use 
your product logo and graphics?  Could you give me the access to download it 
via FTP. 

Also, I would like to ask you for sending me a CoverCD Agreement. 

I look forward on working with you.  

Thank you in advance for your kind help.

Kate
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CoverCD Agreement - Linux+ magazine

[Katarzyna Kaczor]

Hello,

My name is Katarzyna Kaczor and I am an editorial assistant in Linux+ 
magazine. 

The next 2/2008 issue of Linux+ will be devoted to Debian 4.0. 
Many thanks to all from Debian community who prpvided us with articles about 
Debian, its installation, configuration, how-tos, tips&trics etc. 

Do you mind if we re-distribute your Software with our publication? 
We would like to feature Debian 4.0 distro on Linux+dvd. Could we also use 
your product logo and graphics?  Could you give me the access to download it 
via FTP. 

Also, I would like to ask you for sending me a CoverCD Agreement. 

I look forward on working with you.  

Thank you in advance for your kind help.

Kate
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reporting aptitude errors

[roberto]

hello
i am receiving a long list of errors from aptitude but i do not know
how to copy and post them here ...

i have checked /var/log/aptitude but the log stops on march, since
probably on this machine there have been  no update from that date up
to now

thank you very much
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Re: Loosing internet after suspend

[Sudev Barar]

On 11/12/2007, John Patton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After bringing up my system after a suspend to disk, i lose internet access.
> When i try to restart networking, i get the following:
>
>   SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
>   eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
>   eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
>   Bind socket to interface: No such device
>   Failed to bring up eth0.
>
> eth0 is, of course, the card that connects to my cable modem. The only way i
> know to get it back is to restart the computer! I've looked everywhere i can
> think of to look, but i just don't know how to reactivate that device.
>

Same here. Right now I am using lenny on a AMD4 laptop. The problem
extends to wireless device too which other wise work when laptop is
booted. Additionally I am not able to suspend but only hibernate the
machine.

I have not yet given this problem a priority as this is not urgent
issue with me ??? no wife to nag ;-) ??? but the same laptop was
working fine when I had Ubuntu6.06 on it earlier.

The common issue with both was that as this is a wide screen laptop I
have too add vga=771 as additional parameter at boot time (edited
/boot/grub/menu.lst to make it persistent)

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Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there.


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execution automatique a la deconnection sous gnome

[Anthony BERGER]

bonjou,

quelqu'un connait -il une solution pour executer automatiquement un 
script à la deconnection d'un user sous GNOME.


(sous kde, il faut créer le .shutdown mais sous GNOME)

merci


Anthony


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Re: CoverCD Agreement - Debian

[I.E.Broadbent]

Katarzyna (Kate)

Excuse me if my reply appears unhelpful, ... but your questions and the
area you have addressed them to makes we wonder about their accuracy and
intent;... or at least makes me ask why you appear to be so lazy as to
ask a user group  questions which should be addressed elsewhere.

Everyone is welcome to ask questions here... but.. yours are not aimed
at a general user group but more correctly at the 'officers' of Debian
itself. 

I think you'll find the answers to your questions in the general
documentation at the Debian site (www.debian.org).   As I have written,
you are presently asking them of a public support Group of debian users;
which, I suggest, is not really the cleverest way to proceed. In fact
for someone who works for a Linux Mag (allegedly) your niaivety in this
regard is rather suprising.
Why don't you point your browser to the 'main' Debian site (as above)
and start your reading there, .

Ian


 


On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 09:26 +0100, Katarzyna Kaczor wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> My name is Katarzyna Kaczor and I am an editorial assistant in Linux+ 
> magazine. 
> 
> The next 2/2008 issue of Linux+ will be devoted to Debian 4.0. 
> Many thanks to all from Linux community who prvided us with articles about 
> Debian, its installation, configuration, how-tos, tips&trics etc. 
> 
> Do you mind if we re-distribute your Software with our publication? 
> We would like to feature Debian 4.0 distro on Linux+dvd. Could we also use 
> your product logo and graphics?  Could you give me the access to download it 
> via FTP. 
> 
> Also, I would like to ask you for sending me a CoverCD Agreement. 
> 
> I look forward on working with you.  
> 
> Thank you in advance for your kind help.
> 
> Kate


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Re: Network is unreachable email error

[hce]

On 12/10/07, Mihira Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hce wrote:
>
> >
> > Indeed, my ISP blocks port 25. How can I config the postfix to change
> > to use 465 or 587? I have following  sasl_passwd:
> >
> > smtp.gmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
>
> It would help if you can post results of postconf -n
> and show the relevant map files (with the passwords and ip addresses mangled 
> of
> cause)

$ /usr/sbin/postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
append_dot_mydomain = yes
biff = no
canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/canonical
config_directory = /etc/postfix
inet_interfaces = loopback-only
inet_protocols = ipv4
mailbox_size_limit = 5120
masquerade_domains = bizmail.com.au
mydestination = mail.bizmail.com.au
myhostname = debian
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
myorigin = /etc/mailname
recipient_delimiter = +
relayhost =
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = login
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtp_sasl_type = cyrus
smtp_tls_CApath = /etc/ssl/certs
smtp_tls_security_level = may
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu)
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtpd_use_tls = yes

The bizmail.com.au is wrong, it was my old ISP, but I could not find
where the parameters get it from?


> Change your relay server parameters from smtp.gmail.com to 
> [smtp.gmail.com]:587
>
> If you're using relay_server parameter in main.cf, modify it to look like 
> this :
> relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587
>
> If you're using transport maps, change the map file to look like this :
>
> gmail.com   smtp:[smtp.gmail.com]:587

I only use one file mailname and I have changed mailname to
smtp.gmail.com:587, but still got port 25:

Dec 11 22:07:47 debian postfix/smtp[5598]: connect to
mailc.microsoft.com[131.107.115.214]: Network is unreachable (port 25)


> your sasl password map file should have the following format :
>
> smtp.gmail.com  username:password

That's correct. I've only got three files contains specific mail
information in postfix:

1. mailname: smtp.gmail.com:587

2. canonical

yh  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
root[EMAIL PROTECTED]

3. sasl_passwd

smtp.gmail.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:mypassword

That was working fine to my previous ISP bizmail.com.au, or may be
because the postfix config set to:

masquerade_domains = bizmail.com.au
mydestination = mail.bizmail.com.au

I could not find postfix.conf, and where I can change those parameers?

Thanks Mihira.

Kind Regards,

Jim


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D-BUS

[Miguel J.]

Hi, is there a way to send a message using "dbus-send" that appears at
the desktop kind of what libnotify does? if not, is there a similar way
to do that using console? Thanks...

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Error reported while trying to update Linux Image

[Peter Ellison]

Hi
This morning using automatic updater I was advised of a number of 
updates to apply to my system (samba etc.) Included in this list of 
updates is linux-image-2.6.18-5-486_2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch5_i386.deb.


I have previously followed the suggested items to update/install without 
problem (including images).


Today all installed seamlessly except the Linux image which halted with 
the following error displayed :-



E: 
/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.18-5-486_2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch5_i386.deb: 
failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1)



After several attempts at unpacking the image, I removed the package 
from /var/cache/apt/archives/ to make the system download the package 
again (thinking it might have been an induced error during the download 
process)but this seems not to be the case, it produces the same error.


Is this a fault within my system  or is their a problem with the package 
itself (creation date 2/12/07).


Any help resolving this matter would be apprentice


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Re: Network is unreachable email error

[Mihira Fernando]

hce wrote:


$ /usr/sbin/postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
append_dot_mydomain = yes
biff = no
canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/canonical
config_directory = /etc/postfix
inet_interfaces = loopback-only
inet_protocols = ipv4
mailbox_size_limit = 5120
masquerade_domains = bizmail.com.au
mydestination = mail.bizmail.com.au
myhostname = debian
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
myorigin = /etc/mailname
recipient_delimiter = +
relayhost =
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = login
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtp_sasl_type = cyrus
smtp_tls_CApath = /etc/ssl/certs
smtp_tls_security_level = may
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu)
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtpd_use_tls = yes

The bizmail.com.au is wrong, it was my old ISP, but I could not find
where the parameters get it from?

Most likely this is in your main.cf



I only use one file mailname and I have changed mailname to
smtp.gmail.com:587, but still got port 25:

What is mailname ? are you referring to /etc/mailname ?
Your postfix configuration doesnt seem to be using any file called mailname so 
changing that will not help you.


Dec 11 22:07:47 debian postfix/smtp[5598]: connect to
mailc.microsoft.com[131.107.115.214]: Network is unreachable (port 25)
Because you're not using a relayhost, Postfix is trying to send the mail 
directly to the recipient's mailserver and since your ISP is blocking port 25, 
Postfix cannot access it.




That's correct. I've only got three files contains specific mail
information in postfix:

1. mailname: smtp.gmail.com:587

Again, what is this file ? where is it located ?


2. canonical

yh  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
root[EMAIL PROTECTED]

3. sasl_passwd

smtp.gmail.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:mypassword

That was working fine to my previous ISP bizmail.com.au, or may be
because the postfix config set to:

masquerade_domains = bizmail.com.au
mydestination = mail.bizmail.com.au

I could not find postfix.conf, and where I can change those parameers?

/etc/postfix/main.cf is the place to change these parameters.

If your postfix version is > 2.3 you can use the postconf -e command to edit the 
main.cf like this:

postconf -e parameter_name=value

Try the following (as root) :

# postconf -e relayhost=[smtp.gmail.com]:587

To remove the masquerades :
# postconf -e masquerade_domains=

Since you're not mail.bizmail.com.au, change mydestination to either your FQDN 
and/or simply localhost.


# postconf -e mydestination=localhost

Now reload Postfix:

# postfix reload

That should get things moving.

Mihira.

PS. Please send replies only to the list.

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Debian on PCs

[John Talbut]

Does anyone know if there is a web site with a repository of users' experiences 
of running Debian or GNU/Linux on PCs, similar to the www.linux-laptop.net site?


It would certainly have helped me to install Debian on some PCs if I could have 
had a sight of .config, xorg.conf and driver information from others who had 
experience with the same machines.  And I could pass on my experiences.


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Network (LAN) 'lost'

[Uwe Dippel]

This morning, at boot, suddenly no LAN. The boot screen already had
some SIOCSIF errors. Solaris booted properly, with LAN.

In a nutshell, eth0 suddenly migrated to eth2, as one and only eth device.

Details:

This is what I get from dmesg:
...
ACPI: Processor [CPU1] (supports 16 throttling states)
8139cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.2 (Mar 22, 2004)
8139cp :00:09.0: This (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip
8139cp :00:09.0: Try the "8139too" driver instead.
8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:09.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 169
eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xd800, 00:02:44:90:97:27, IRQ 169
eth0:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D'
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
...

And there is no other eth:
$ dmesg | grep eth
eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xd800, 00:02:44:90:97:27, IRQ 169
eth0:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D'
$

ifconfig says
# ifconfig
loLink encap:Local Loopback
 inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
 RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
 TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
 RX bytes:600 (600.0 b)  TX bytes:600 (600.0 b)
#

ifconfig does not 'up' eth0:
# ifconfig eth0 up
eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
#

But it is in there:
# lspci -v
...
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
   Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RT8139
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 169
   I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
   Memory at febff400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
   Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

Only "man ifconfig" gave me an idea:
# ifconfig -a
eth2  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:44:90:97:27
 BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
 Interrupt:169 Base address:0xd800

loLink encap:Local Loopback
 inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
 RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
 TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
 RX bytes:600 (600.0 b)  TX bytes:600 (600.0 b)

sit0  Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
 NOARP  MTU:1480  Metric:1
 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
#

And it does work !:
# dhclient eth2
Internet Software Consortium DHCP Client 2.0pl5
Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium.
All rights reserved.

Please contribute if you find this software useful.
For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html

sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
Listening on LPF/eth2/00:02:44:90:97:27
Sending on   LPF/eth2/00:02:44:90:97:27
Sending on   Socket/fallback/fallback-net
DHCPREQUEST on eth2 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPACK from 192.168.116.200
bound to 192.168.116.101 -- renewal in 432000 seconds.


Now I ask myself WHY !?
How can a properly working system suddenly end up with a strange eth2
instead of eth0 ?
How does an eth0 recognised in dmesg at boot migrate to eth2; on its own ?
Is this a bug ?


Uwe


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Re: backup script partly fails when in cron.weekly

[Haines Brown]

Benjamin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> But maybe you should not use this (in my opinion) unusual command "find
> / -print ...". Instead use tar, like:
> 
> tar -zcvf /media/mirror/`date +%F`.tar.gz -C / --exclude=/media/*
> --exclude=/proc/* --exclude=/sys/* --exclude=/mnt/*

Benjamin, thanks for the suggestion, but I had a problem with the
script:

Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive

I don't understand this error. 

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Debian Etch install bugzilla

[rockymaxsource]

Hey,

I'm trying to install bugzilla on my old machine which runs Debian
etch. Aptitude install bugzilla gave me the below error code:

---Error begin
 dbconfig-common: flushing administrative password
/var/lib/dpkg/info/bugzilla.postinst: line 107: /etc/bugzilla/dbconfig-
params: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing bugzilla (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 bugzilla
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
---Error end

Browse to localhost/bugzilla, I got the below error
---Error begin


500 Internal Server Error

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or
misconfiguration and was unable to complete
your request.
Please contact the server administrator,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and inform them of the time the error occurred,
and anything you might have done that may have
caused the error.
More information about this error may be available
in the server error log.

Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/5.2.0-8+etch7 Server at
bugzilla55.in Port 80

---Error end

tail /var/www/log/error.log gives me the below result
---Error begin
[Tue Dec 11 21:13:15 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.19] Compilation
failed in require at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/bugzilla/index.cgi line 33.
[Tue Dec 11 21:13:15 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.19] Premature end
of script headers: index.cgi
[Tue Dec 11 21:14:10 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.19] No value for
param user_verify_class (try running checksetup.pl again) at /usr/
share/perl5/Bugzilla/Config.pm line 225.
[Tue Dec 11 21:14:10 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.19] BEGIN failed--
compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Bugzilla/Auth.pm line 43.
[Tue Dec 11 21:14:10 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.19] Compilation
failed in require at /usr/share/bugzilla/Bugzilla.pm line 28.
[Tue Dec 11 21:14:10 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.19] BEGIN failed--
compilation aborted at /usr/share/bugzilla/Bugzilla.pm line 28.
[Tue Dec 11 21:14:10 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.19] Compilation
failed in require at /usr/share/bugzilla/globals.pl line 803.
[Tue Dec 11 21:14:10 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.19] BEGIN failed--
compilation aborted at /usr/share/bugzilla/globals.pl line 803.
[Tue Dec 11 21:14:10 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.19] Compilation
failed in require at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/bugzilla/index.cgi line 33.
---Error end


Can any of you help me out please?

Blessings,
Rocky


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Re: How Linux becomes Windows

[cothrige]

Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Odd.  Mine just said, "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave."

Well, you probably let it see you coming.  

> A quick Wikipedia search (found it on my first try) gave me this:
>
> 

Showoff ;-)

Seriously though, I must admit it appears like it could be useful,
though on my little standalone box it probably wouldn't do much for me.

Patrick


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Re: Gnus and emacs22

[cothrige]

Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 2007-12-10 20:40 +0100, cothrige wrote:
>
>> Ah, that explains it.  It causes me to wonder just how much is now
>> coming preinstalled, and doesn't need to be added on?  I may be adding a
>> bunch of stuff twice, which may I suppose cause some confusion down the
>> pike.
>
> Possibly.  Please read the Emacs NEWS file, section "New Modes and
> Packages in Emacs 22.1" to see which packages have been integrated.
> Also see GNUS-NEWS in the same directory as NEWS.

Many thanks for that.  I will do so immediately.

> w3m-el-snapshot is a new package, but it has just arrived in testing:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/w3m-el-snapshot
>
> Maybe your mirror is not quite up to date.

That certainly sounds likely.

> What is the value of browse-url-browser-function?  For me, just putting
> the following two lines into my .emacs sets up w3m properly and does TRT
> when clicking on links in Gnus:
>
> (if (fboundp 'w3m-browse-url)
> (setq browse-url-browser-function 'w3m-browse-url))

Very interesting.  I was using customize to set what appeared to be the
relevant options for browsers.  What I was using was w3m-browse-url, and
so I thought it would work, but I must have been clouding something up
somehow.  The lines you gave above did work, and so now things are
operating as I would have expected them to, though I am unsure how I
messed up the settings via customize.

Many thanks for the help.

Patrick


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Re: OT: clicky keyboards

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

Totally OT, except it's on my debian box ;)

If you need that amazingly insightful gift for someone (yourself?)
this year, check out www.clickykeyboards.com for real IBM
keyboards. Mine just arrived and I'm in heaven. 


I hate to bump a commercial enterprise like that, but I know many of
you do lots of typing... 




Guess what, they sell a  custom XT to AT keyboard protocol signal converter.

But it's sold out :-(

I still have those keyboards...

Hugo


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Re: Network (LAN) 'lost'

[Benjamin Schmidt]

If you have udev installed and it recognizes a ethernet adapter with a
unknown mac address, it will assign a new eth*-reference. So maybe you
used a mac changer or some updates deletes a udev specific file. I don't
know.

The configuration file you need, is:
/etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules

delete the entry with "eth0" and rename the other entry from eth2 to
eth0. Ok, now reboot (or only restart udev, don't know) and you will
have eth0 again.

Best regards,
Benjamin Schmidt


Uwe Dippel wrote:
> This morning, at boot, suddenly no LAN. The boot screen already had
> some SIOCSIF errors. Solaris booted properly, with LAN.
> 
> In a nutshell, eth0 suddenly migrated to eth2, as one and only eth device.
> 
> Details:
> 
> This is what I get from dmesg:
> ...
> ACPI: Processor [CPU1] (supports 16 throttling states)
> 8139cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.2 (Mar 22, 2004)
> 8139cp :00:09.0: This (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible 
> chip
> 8139cp :00:09.0: Try the "8139too" driver instead.
> 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:09.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 169
> eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xd800, 00:02:44:90:97:27, IRQ 169
> eth0:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D'
> Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
> ...
> 
> And there is no other eth:
> $ dmesg | grep eth
> eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xd800, 00:02:44:90:97:27, IRQ 169
> eth0:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D'
> $
> 
> ifconfig says
> # ifconfig
> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>  RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>  TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>  RX bytes:600 (600.0 b)  TX bytes:600 (600.0 b)
> #
> 
> ifconfig does not 'up' eth0:
> # ifconfig eth0 up
> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> #
> 
> But it is in there:
> # lspci -v
> ...
> 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
>Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RT8139
>Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 169
>I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
>Memory at febff400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
>Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
> 
> Only "man ifconfig" gave me an idea:
> # ifconfig -a
> eth2  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:44:90:97:27
>  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
>  Interrupt:169 Base address:0xd800
> 
> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>  RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>  TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>  RX bytes:600 (600.0 b)  TX bytes:600 (600.0 b)
> 
> sit0  Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
>  NOARP  MTU:1480  Metric:1
>  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
> #
> 
> And it does work !:
> # dhclient eth2
> Internet Software Consortium DHCP Client 2.0pl5
> Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> 
> Please contribute if you find this software useful.
> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html
> 
> sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
> sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
> Listening on LPF/eth2/00:02:44:90:97:27
> Sending on   LPF/eth2/00:02:44:90:97:27
> Sending on   Socket/fallback/fallback-net
> DHCPREQUEST on eth2 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> DHCPACK from 192.168.116.200
> bound to 192.168.116.101 -- renewal in 432000 seconds.
> 
> 
> Now I ask myself WHY !?
> How can a properly working system suddenly end up with a strange eth2
> instead of eth0 ?
> How does an eth0 recognised in dmesg at boot migrate to eth2; on its own ?
> Is this a bug ?
> 
> 
> Uwe
> 
> 


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Re: Debian on PCs

[Ron Johnson]

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On 12/11/07 06:05, John Talbut wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a web site with a repository of users'
> experiences of running Debian or GNU/Linux on PCs, similar to the
> www.linux-laptop.net site?
> 
> It would certainly have helped me to install Debian on some PCs if I
> could have had a sight of .config, xorg.conf and driver information from
> others who had experience with the same machines.  And I could pass on
> my experiences.

The snotty answer is http://lists.debian.org/users.html but what you
probably want is something like these:

http://www.debian-administration.org/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/

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Re: Error reported while trying to update Linux Image

[Sven Joachim]

On 2007-12-11 12:58 +0100, Peter Ellison wrote:

> Hi
> This morning using automatic updater I was advised of a number of
> updates to apply to my system (samba etc.) Included in this list of
> updates is linux-image-2.6.18-5-486_2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch5_i386.deb.
>
> I have previously followed the suggested items to update/install
> without problem (including images).
>
> Today all installed seamlessly except the Linux image which halted
> with the following error displayed :-
>
>
> E:
> /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.18-5-486_2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch5_i386.deb:
> failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1)

Sounds like your root partition is full.  The linux-image-* packages
need ~ 50 Megabyte in / because of the huge number of modules.

> After several attempts at unpacking the image, I removed the package
> from /var/cache/apt/archives/ to make the system download the package
> again (thinking it might have been an induced error during the
> download process)but this seems not to be the case, it produces the
> same error.
>
> Is this a fault within my system  or is their a problem with the
> package itself (creation date 2/12/07).

Try to remove one or more old kernels before installing the new one.  If
that is not possible, you may have to enlarge your root partition.

Cheers,
   Sven


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no email

[Mark Grieveson]

Hello.  I'm subscribed to the digest of this list, and used to
regularly receive email.  Suddenly, it stopped.  I resubscribed, but
still am receiving nothing.  I now follow the list via the web.

Has anyone else had this issue?  

Mark


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Re: execution automatique a la deconnection sous gnome

[strawks]

Salut,

> quelqu'un connait -il une solution pour executer automatiquement un 
> script à la deconnection d'un user sous GNOME.
> 
> (sous kde, il faut créer le .shutdown mais sous GNOME)

Premierement, cette list est destinee aux utilisateurs anglophones, il
existe une liste specifique pour les francophone (debian-user-french).

Anyway, maybe the easiest solution may be to make gdm (or kdm or
whatever) execute your $HOME/.xsession script. For example your script
may look like this :
(Pour repondre a ta question, le plus simple serait p-e de faire
executer par gdm (ou kdm ou autre) le script $HOME/.xsession sur ton
compte. Par ex) :

#!/bin/sh

# Lancement de la session
gnome-sesion
# cette ligne est atteinte seulement lors de ladeconnexion
# Fin de la session

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Re: no email

[Kumar Appaiah]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:56:12AM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Hello.  I'm subscribed to the digest of this list, and used to
> regularly receive email.  Suddenly, it stopped.  I resubscribed, but
> still am receiving nothing.  I now follow the list via the web.

Have you eliminated common problems, like a spamfilter at your end?
Sometimes, people don't realise that all their mails are silently
eaten up by the spam filters.

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Re: Network (LAN) 'lost'

[Uwe Dippel]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:11:57 +0100, Benjamin Schmidt wrote:

> If you have udev installed and it recognizes a ethernet adapter with a
> unknown mac address, it will assign a new eth*-reference. So maybe you
> used a mac changer or some updates deletes a udev specific file. I don't
> know.
> 
> The configuration file you need, is:
> /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
> 
> delete the entry with "eth0" and rename the other entry from eth2 to
> eth0. Ok, now reboot (or only restart udev, don't know) and you will
> have eth0 again.

Somewhat true. Lightning struck and killed the other, same type, NIC. I
had shut down and plugged a new one.
I wonder how anyone can *not* call this behaviour silly && buggy. :(

Thanks anyway,

Uwe,
deeply disappointed by a stupid crap like this udev behaviour.

Who would ever dare to talk about acceptance of Linux as desktop with such
useless stuff ?







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KDE doesn't connect to HAL

[Gebhardt Thomas]

Hi,

I've several (KDE) etch systems that can't access removable devices
attached to the system.

In detail:

When I plug in an usb memory stick, nothing happens. No syslog entries
or whatsoever. But I can see the device with "lsusb".

When I klick on an icon in the konqueror "Storage Media" menu, then I get
the error message "Feature only available with HAL".

The menu item "Enable HAL backend" in "Control Center"->"Storage Media"
is greyed out, even when I start the Control Center as root. 

Actually hald is running:
(but why does ps show the numerical uid "106" instead of "haldaemon" as the 
process owner?)

# ps faux | grep hal
106   2707  0.0  0.2   6216  4696 ?Ss   16:32   
0:01 /usr/sbin/hald
root  2708  0.0  0.0   2888  1032 ?S16:32   0:00  \_ 
hald-runner
106   2714  0.0  0.0   1856   756 ?S16:32   0:00  \_ 
hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket
106   2722  0.0  0.0   1852   768 ?S16:32   0:00  \_ 
hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event0
106   2730  0.0  0.0   1856   768 ?S16:32   0:00  \_ 
hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event4
106   2733  0.0  0.0   1856   764 ?S16:33   0:00  \_ 
hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event3
root  2737  0.0  0.0   1808   620 ?S16:33   0:00  \_ 
hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/scd0
root  5632  0.0  0.0   3740   760 pts/6S+   18:49   0:00  | 
  
\_ grep hal

the same with dbus:

# ps faux | grep dbus
105   2699  0.0  0.1   7076  2352 ?Ss   16:32   
0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
gebhardt  3087  0.0  0.0   4136   968 ?Ss   16:33   0:00  
\_ /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session 
x-session-manager
gebhardt  3090  0.0  0.0   2568   616 ?S16:33   
0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
gebhardt  3091  0.0  0.0   2468   444 ?Ss   16:33   
0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 6 --print-address 8 --session
root  5648  0.0  0.0   3736   756 pts/6S+   18:51   0:00  | 
  
\_ grep dbus

Any hint? Thanks a lot, Th. Gebhardt


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System Lockup

[Thomas H. George]

I just experienced my first ever system lockup.  No mouse, no keyboard 
with an Iceape screen open.


I had saved a posting regarding SYSRQ and I tried Alt-Sysrq k then 
Alt-Sysrq i and the Alt-Sysrq b with no response. 

In desperation I crashed and rebooted the system.  I am using 
linux-image 2.6.21-2-686.  When the system came up I entered grep SYSRQ 
/boot/config-$(uname -r) and got the response CONFIG_MAGIC-SYSRQ=y



So its there.  Either I did something wrong or it doesn't work with the 
problem I encountered.


Tom George


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Re: Debian on PCs

[Jonathan Kaye]

John Talbut wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is a web site with a repository of users'
> experiences of running Debian or GNU/Linux on PCs, similar to the
> www.linux-laptop.net site?
> 
> It would certainly have helped me to install Debian on some PCs if I could
> have had a sight of .config, xorg.conf and driver information from others
> who had
> experience with the same machines.  And I could pass on my experiences.
> 
> John
Hi John,
Maybe this isn't exactly what you're asking but a substitute for it. You can
try a live CD that you can download and burn on any platform. I
particularly recommend Knoppix. Just stick the live CD in the drive and
boot up. You can then investigate all settings (xorg, etc.) at your
leisure. If Knoppix is happy with your pc then it's a pretty good bet that
Debian will be also.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Wating for root file system. Kernel bug?

[wanderlust]

Hello.

I'm trying to install Debian/etch on Acer Aspire 5520G, but the problem
is, that kernel 2.6.18 doesn't support Marvell netcard 436b. I found it
is supportable in 2.6.23.9, so I decided to compile it. I used default
configuration, taken from /proc/config.gz and after compiling and
installing (using modules on initrd) I had to reboot to new kernel.

But I got a failure. Everything seems ok during loading from initrd, but
kernel couldn't find root filesystem (module is available). I looked
through /dev and found none sd devices (there is SATA disk on the
laptop). Any ideas how to solve a problem? It works fine with 2.6.18
kernel.

Sincerely,
wanderlust


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Re: buying TV card: somewhat OT

[Bob McGowan]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 03:52:10PM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:43:38AM -0500, Scott Lair wrote:

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so its not strictly etch. Also, these cards include hardware mpeg
encoding which can be a blessing and a curse, depending on your
situation. 
A
Could you expand a bit on the subject of "a blessing and a curse" with 
respect to hardware mpeg encoding?


It's a blessing because having the mpeg encoding performed in hardware
on the card takes the load off your cpu. You can process more streams
with less cpu. It's a curse because the streams are compressed before
you get access to them. Any additional processing you might do will be
done on data that has already been compressed, leading to degraded
quality.


I was under the impression that, even with CPU based encoding, the 
recording process went directly to the compressed format.


Does what you say mean that the uncompressed data stream can be stored 
and edited later?  I realize this would mean huge files but it would 
lead to higher quality final copies, as you say.


Or is it a matter of applying "filtering" in the data pipeline?



ymmv.


Or, point to a relevant discussion of the issue?


well, we're having one right now ;-)

I've been holding out, waiting for hardware mpeg card support in MythTV 
(been a while since I've checked, looks like it may have improved since) 
and was not aware of negative issues with it.


The hardware mpeg support is not in MythTV directly but is in the
drivers for the particular cards. Many of the Hauppage PVR cards (I
have two) have been supported by ivtv drivers for at least a couple of
years. You should be looking for kernel support for the cards, not
mythtv support. If there is kernel support, then there will be
/dev/video* devices that mythtv can record from. 


A


Thanks, very helpful.

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Re: System Lockup

[strawks]

> I just experienced my first ever system lockup.  No mouse, no keyboard 
> with an Iceape screen open.

> I had saved a posting regarding SYSRQ and I tried Alt-Sysrq k then 
> Alt-Sysrq i and the Alt-Sysrq b with no response. 

Did you really press those 3 keys at the same time? To see if it works
switch to a console and try it there (Alt-Sysrq-s should print
something).

> In desperation I crashed and rebooted the system.  I am using 
> linux-image 2.6.21-2-686.  When the system came up I entered grep SYSRQ 
> /boot/config-$(uname -r) and got the response CONFIG_MAGIC-SYSRQ=y
> 
> 
> So its there.  Either I did something wrong or it doesn't work with the 
> problem I encountered.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought sysrq should work in any case but
hardware problem as it's done directly in the IRQ handler.

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java applet compile problem

[Robert Jerrard]

I am trying to enter the world of java applets but am having problems
compiling applet code. I downloaded an analog clock applet from the web
(which works) but want to modify it. However:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Java$ kaffe AnalogClockApplet
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: main
   at java.lang.VMThrowable.fillInStackTrace (VMThrowable.java:native)
   at java.lang.VMThrowable.fillInStackTrace (VMThrowable.java:79)
   at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace (Throwable.java:498)
   at java.lang.Throwable. (Throwable.java:159)
   at java.lang.Error. (Error.java:81)
   at java.lang.LinkageError. (LinkageError.java:72)
   at java.lang.IncompatibleClassChangeError.
(IncompatibleClassChangeError.java:71)
   at java.lang.NoSuchMethodError. (NoSuchMethodError.java:72)

I don't know java as yet but have not modified the code of
AnalogClockApplet.java yet so why does it not compile? Any pointers?

I am running a Debian unstable system that is reasonably up-to-date and
as for java:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Java$ dpkg -l | fgrep java
ii  gjdoc 0.7.8-6 documentation generation framework for java 
ii  java-common 0.25 Base of all Java packages
ii  libecj-java 3.3.0+0728-5 Eclipse Java compiler (library)
ii  libecj-java-gcj 3.3.0+0728-5 Eclipse Java compiler (native library)
ii  libhsqldb-java 1.8.0.8-1 Java SQL database engine
ii  libjaxp1.3-java 1.3.04-2 Java XML parser and transformer APIs
ii  libjline-java 0.9.5-3 Java library for handling console input
ii  libservlet2.3-java 4.0-8 Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 Java classes and
doc
ii  libservlet2.4-java 5.0.30-5 Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 Java classes and
doc
ii  libxalan2-java 2.7.0-5 XSL Transformations (XSLT) processor in Java
ii  libxerces2-java 2.9.0-1 Validating XML parser for Java with DOM leve
ii  libxt-java 0.20050823-2 An implementation in Java of XSL Transformat
ii  openoffice.org-java-common 2.2.1-8 OpenOffice.org office suite Java
support arc
ii  sun-java5-bin 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
ii  sun-java5-demo 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
demos
ii  sun-java5-fonts 1.5.0-13-1 Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)
ii  sun-java5-jdk 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
ii  sun-java5-jre 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
ii  sun-java5-plugin 1.5.0-13-1 The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0
ii  sun-java5-source 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
source

Thanks for any pointers, Bob

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Compile Error, Debian 2.6.23.9

[Telly Williams]

Hi,

I've been trying to compile the 2.6.23.9 Debian kernel onto an
IBM Thinkpad 570.  I keep getting this error:

drivers/net/usb/cdc_subset.c:222:2: error: You need to configure
some hardware for this driver

I decided to use the existing configuration file on my system
and I still get this error.  What is being compiled that I
shouldn't be compiling?  Thanks.

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Re: System Lockup

[Michael Pobega]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 12:05:22PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
> I just experienced my first ever system lockup.  No mouse, no keyboard with 
> an Iceape screen open.
>
> I had saved a posting regarding SYSRQ and I tried Alt-Sysrq k then 
> Alt-Sysrq i and the Alt-Sysrq b with no response. 
> In desperation I crashed and rebooted the system.  I am using linux-image 
> 2.6.21-2-686.  When the system came up I entered grep SYSRQ 
> /boot/config-$(uname -r) and got the response CONFIG_MAGIC-SYSRQ=y
>
>
> So its there.  Either I did something wrong or it doesn't work with the 
> problem I encountered.
>
> Tom George
>
>

Were you by chance using flashplayer? When I used to use the flash
package I got random crashes and lock ups...When I realized that flash
was the cause of these lockups I stopped using it and haven't touched it
since.

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programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they
restrict the use of these programs. 
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Re: no email

[Mark Grieveson]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:58:19 +0530
Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:56:12AM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> > Hello.  I'm subscribed to the digest of this list, and used to
> > regularly receive email.  Suddenly, it stopped.  I resubscribed, but
> > still am receiving nothing.  I now follow the list via the web.
> 
> Have you eliminated common problems, like a spamfilter at your end?
> Sometimes, people don't realise that all their mails are silently
> eaten up by the spam filters.
> 
> Kumar

I use sylpheed-claws-gtk, with bogofilter.  I check my spam file, and
it's not going in there.

Mark


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Re: Re: Debian on PCs

[John Talbut]

Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> On 12/11/07 06:05, John Talbut wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if there is a web site with a repository of users'
>> experiences of running Debian or GNU/Linux on PCs, similar to the
>> www.linux-laptop.netsite?
>
>> It would certainly have helped me to install Debian on some PCs if I
>> could have had a sight of .config, xorg.conf and driver information from
>> others who had experience with the same machines.  And I could pass on
>> my experiences.
>

The snotty answer is http://lists.debian.org/users.html but what you
probably want is something like these:

http://www.debian-administration.org/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/

>
> - --
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> Jefferson LA  USA
>
Interesting sites but not what I am looking for, they have nothing like:

http://www.linux-laptop.net/

I have solved my problems - about 2 years to become MS free on a Dell Dimension 
4100 followed by about 2 months for a Dimension p133v, 2 weeks for a HP nx9105 
and about 3 days for each for a F-S Scenic eD and a GeForce6100SM-M based 
machine.  It saved a fair bit of time with the nx9105 to be able to get a 
.config from Linux on Laptops.


So I would pass the information on if there was a suitable repository (not just 
post it somewhere on a mailing list).  I do have a memory of seeing a list 
somewhere of machines that Debian had been used on, but I have not been able to 
find it.


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Replacing HD with Flash IDE drive

[Amit Uttamchandani]

Hey guys,

I have an old PowerBook G4 500MHz running beautifully with debian. Everything 
is perfect except for the noisy hard drive in this machine. It is unbearable 
when trying to work in the library or someplace quite (sounds like when you're 
sitting in a plane, on a seat right next to the engine).

Anyways, flash based IDE drive would be the solution I am guessing. I am not 
really concerned with the size as I am running a fairly minimal debian system. 
So about 4G would be perfect.

So anybody has any experiences with this on Debian? Does the Flash HD simply 
look like an IDE drive in debian?

Any comments and suggestions are welcome.

Thank you,
Amit


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Re: Replacing HD with Flash IDE drive

[Mirco Piccin]

Hi!

> Anyways, flash based IDE drive would be the solution I am guessing. I am
not really concerned with the size as I am running a fairly
> minimal debian system. So about 4G would be perfect.
>
> So anybody has any experiences with this on Debian? Does the Flash HD
simply look like an IDE drive in debian?

Yes, i've done the same for my home "server".
It's based on a fanless miniitx, and the only noise was the HD.

I use a CF 2 IDE adaptor; CF is recognize as IDE hd and the installation was
done with no problems.
And until now no problems, of course.

Also i use a 4 gb cf.

Only, i don't know if there an adaptor from PowerBook g4 hd connector (sata?
eide?) to cf.
Hope this encourage you!

Bye

Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?

[Kumar R.]

Hi,

I am running Debian on a Macbook. I used the Etch DVDs for install, and I
followed the instructions on the wiki entry http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook

I think that made most things work for me, including wireless, touchpad and
sound. Microphone worked after an alsa upgrade. Everything runs very
smoothly(you can configure the keyboard setup in your xorg.conf to match
your preferences), and I think the power settings can be set using ACPI as
well (not too sure about battery performance enhancement etc.).

Regards,
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Re: java applet compile problem

[Bogdan Marian]

Robert Jerrard wrote:

I am trying to enter the world of java applets but am having problems
compiling applet code. I downloaded an analog clock applet from the web
(which works) but want to modify it. However:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Java$ kaffe AnalogClockApplet
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: main
   at java.lang.VMThrowable.fillInStackTrace (VMThrowable.java:native)
   at java.lang.VMThrowable.fillInStackTrace (VMThrowable.java:79)
   at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace (Throwable.java:498)
   at java.lang.Throwable. (Throwable.java:159)
   at java.lang.Error. (Error.java:81)
   at java.lang.LinkageError. (LinkageError.java:72)
   at java.lang.IncompatibleClassChangeError.
(IncompatibleClassChangeError.java:71)
   at java.lang.NoSuchMethodError. (NoSuchMethodError.java:72)

I don't know java as yet but have not modified the code of
AnalogClockApplet.java yet so why does it not compile? Any pointers?

I am running a Debian unstable system that is reasonably up-to-date and
as for java:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Java$ dpkg -l | fgrep java
ii  gjdoc 0.7.8-6 documentation generation framework for java 
ii  java-common 0.25 Base of all Java packages

ii  libecj-java 3.3.0+0728-5 Eclipse Java compiler (library)
ii  libecj-java-gcj 3.3.0+0728-5 Eclipse Java compiler (native library)
ii  libhsqldb-java 1.8.0.8-1 Java SQL database engine
ii  libjaxp1.3-java 1.3.04-2 Java XML parser and transformer APIs
ii  libjline-java 0.9.5-3 Java library for handling console input
ii  libservlet2.3-java 4.0-8 Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 Java classes and
doc
ii  libservlet2.4-java 5.0.30-5 Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 Java classes and
doc
ii  libxalan2-java 2.7.0-5 XSL Transformations (XSLT) processor in Java
ii  libxerces2-java 2.9.0-1 Validating XML parser for Java with DOM leve
ii  libxt-java 0.20050823-2 An implementation in Java of XSL Transformat
ii  openoffice.org-java-common 2.2.1-8 OpenOffice.org office suite Java
support arc
ii  sun-java5-bin 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
ii  sun-java5-demo 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
demos
ii  sun-java5-fonts 1.5.0-13-1 Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)
ii  sun-java5-jdk 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
ii  sun-java5-jre 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
ii  sun-java5-plugin 1.5.0-13-1 The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0
ii  sun-java5-source 1.5.0-13-1 Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
source

Thanks for any pointers, Bob

  

Hi,

From what i can see, you are trying to use a method that is not known 
by your JVM ( Java Virtual Machine ) . Could you please post the output 
of "java -version" ? Anyway, by no means is this a Debian related 
problem. I think the guys from the Java forums can give you more proper 
advice.


BR,
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Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?

[Mirco Piccin]

Hi!

I run debian lenny/sid in my Thinkpad T60 with no problems : wifi works,
hdap works, fingerprint reader works, acpi works, and also supend (sometimes
:-D) works.
Before that i run debian sarge on a Thinkpad R51P and T40 again with no big
problems.

I had mre problems using Win$ :-D

And in one case (Compaq Presario p900) debian sarge was the only linux
distro to work good!

So, don't worry, the (debian) community is always present to give support!
There are also many web site where find a lot of info for any laptop!

Good Luck!

location for user-specified iptable rules in Lenny

[PETER EASTHOPE]

Mumia & others,

At 2007-09-12 11:57:52 -0500 Mumia W. Paduille wrote,
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -s 12.140.16.4 --sport 22 -j REDIRECT 
--to-port 4122
  & etc.
  
Right oh; thanks.  I have the general picture.  Seems 
that what I aim for might be an instance of port forwarding.

In Lenny, where should a user specify iptable rules?
/etc/init.d/iptables is deprecated?  Ipmasq is running
in the system already.  Should I try to put my rules in 
an ipmasq script?  Should I install another firewall package?

Thanks for all replies,   ... Peter E.

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Ping works but not internet

[Axel Minck]

Hi everybody,

 

I recently installed Debian on my computer (2.6.18 kernel).

 

After some time to configure the wireless internet access, I can:

-  Ping addresses

-  Go to Google homepage (sometimes I cannot even open Google)

-  Carry out searches on Google

 

But I can't go to any other address. Even in Google's results list, clicking
on a link  will result in a timed out error.

In parallel, I can ping the addresses I cannot access with the navigator.

 

Does someone have an idea to solve this ? It seems very strange..

 

Thanks in advance !

 

 

Re: Ping works but not internet

[Amit Uttamchandani]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:01:24 +0100
"Axel Minck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> 
>  
> 
> I recently installed Debian on my computer (2.6.18 kernel).
> 
>  
> 
> After some time to configure the wireless internet access, I can:
> 
> -  Ping addresses
> 
> -  Go to Google homepage (sometimes I cannot even open Google)
> 
> -  Carry out searches on Google
> 
>  
> 
> But I can't go to any other address. Even in Google's results list, clicking
> on a link  will result in a timed out error.
> 
> In parallel, I can ping the addresses I cannot access with the navigator.
> 
>  
> 
> Does someone have an idea to solve this ? It seems very strange..
> 
>  
> 

Could be a DNS issue? Try pinging 194.109.137.218

This is the IP address of the server hosting www.debian.org. If you can do 
this, then it looks like a DNS issue.


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Re: Ping works but not internet

[Guillermo Garron]

> >
> > In parallel, I can ping the addresses I cannot access with the navigator.
You mean you have another PC which the same problem?

do you have any other PC or maybe a LiveCD to test this connection?
maybe could be a proxy problem, rules or something.

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Re: Ping works but not internet

[Guillaume]

Axel Minck a écrit :

Hi everybody,

 


I recently installed Debian on my computer (2.6.18 kernel).

 


After some time to configure the wireless internet access, I can:

-  Ping addresses

-  Go to Google homepage (sometimes I cannot even open Google)

-  Carry out searches on Google

 

But I can’t go to any other address. Even in Google’s results list, 
clicking on a link  will result in a timed out error.


In parallel, I can ping the addresses I cannot access with the navigator.

 


Does someone have an idea to solve this ? It seems very strange….

 


Thanks in advance !

 

 



Hi

Are you bind a router of any sort 

This sounds like a MTU problem !

Little packet (ping) are ok but not large packet(surfing).

Regards
Guillaume


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Re: Ping works but not internet

[Bruno Costacurta]

On Tuesday 11 December 2007 22:29:09 Guillaume wrote:
> Axel Minck a écrit :
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> >
> >
> > I recently installed Debian on my computer (2.6.18 kernel).
> >
> >
> >
> > After some time to configure the wireless internet access, I can:
> >
> > -  Ping addresses
> >
> > -  Go to Google homepage (sometimes I cannot even open Google)
> >
> > -  Carry out searches on Google
> >
> >
> >
> > But I can’t go to any other address. Even in Google’s results list,
> > clicking on a link  will result in a timed out error.
> >
> > In parallel, I can ping the addresses I cannot access with the navigator.
> >
> >
> >
> > Does someone have an idea to solve this ? It seems very strange….
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance !
>
> Hi
>
> Are you bind a router of any sort 
>
> This sounds like a MTU problem !
>
> Little packet (ping) are ok but not large packet(surfing).
>
> Regards
> Guillaume
>
>
> --
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> E-mail: silencer__free-4ever__net
> Blog: http://guillaume.free-4ever.net
> 
> Site: http://www.free-4ever.net

I had same problem in the past,
indeed due to an incorrect MTU value (as Guillaume suggest)
Bye,
Bruno

Re: Ping works but not internet

[Bonnel Christophe]

Guillaume a écrit :

Axel Minck a écrit :

Hi everybody,

 


I recently installed Debian on my computer (2.6.18 kernel).

 


After some time to configure the wireless internet access, I can:

-  Ping addresses

-  Go to Google homepage (sometimes I cannot even open Google)

-  Carry out searches on Google

 

But I can’t go to any other address. Even in Google’s results list, 
clicking on a link  will result in a timed out error.


In parallel, I can ping the addresses I cannot access with the 
navigator.


 


Does someone have an idea to solve this ? It seems very strange….

 


Thanks in advance !

 

 



Hi

Are you bind a router of any sort 

This sounds like a MTU problem !

Little packet (ping) are ok but not large packet(surfing).

Regards
Guillaume



I had the same problem and it was a MTU problem as Guillaume says.
In your /etc/network/interfaces file, add these lines where you 
configure your wireless connection :

   mtu 1450
   up echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling
   up echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn

Then restart network with :
/etc/init.d/networking restart

And try again to use internet, it works for me.

Hope this helps
Christophe



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Re: reporting aptitude errors

[Firebeam]

roberto wrote:

hello
i am receiving a long list of errors from aptitude but i do not know
how to copy and post them here ...


I suppose you run aptitude's "full screen" user interface. You can use 
it from the command line too, just like apt-get, e.g.:


# aptitude install 

so, this way, I think you just redirect aptitude's output:

# aptitude install  > aptitude.log

(maybe should it be "2> aptitude.log"?)

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Re: Compile Error, Debian 2.6.23.9

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Telly Williams wrote:

Hi,

I've been trying to compile the 2.6.23.9 Debian kernel onto an
IBM Thinkpad 570.  I keep getting this error:

drivers/net/usb/cdc_subset.c:222:2: error: You need to configure
some hardware for this driver

I decided to use the existing configuration file on my system
and I still get this error.  What is being compiled that I
shouldn't be compiling?  Thanks.



I may be dense but what exactly are you compiling?

I just compiled the 2.6.23-1-686 kernel because I wanted to add the ck 
patch and then recompiling is the only way.


Hugo


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Re: KDE doesn't connect to HAL

[Charlie]

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Gebhardt Thomas shared this with us all:
>--} When I klick on an icon in the konqueror "Storage Media" menu, then I
> get --} the error message "Feature only available with HAL".

You have installed hal?

# apt-get install hal

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Re: buying TV card: somewhat OT

[David Brodbeck]

On Dec 11, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Bob McGowan wrote:
I was under the impression that, even with CPU based encoding, the  
recording process went directly to the compressed format.


It doesn't have to -- it depends on the software you're using.   
Usually *some* kind of compression is used, though, because otherwise  
the disk space and disk bandwidth requirements become unwieldy.  Even  
professional digital video systems generally use some kind of  
compression at every step of the process.


If you're talking specifically about MythTV, yes, there's always some  
form of compression.  A PVR without compression wouldn't be able to  
record a useful amount of material.



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Re: Compile Error, Debian 2.6.23.9

[Telly Williams]

> I may be dense but what exactly are you compiling?

The 2.6.23.9 kernel obtained from kernel.org.  Kernel
recompiling works on my Microtel without errors.  Like the error
said, it looks like a hardware error dealing with the USB port,
but I loaded the configuration file located in /boot that was
installed by default.

> I just compiled the 2.6.23-1-686 kernel because I wanted to add the ck 
> patch and then recompiling is the only way.
> 
I need that kernel for a usb-->ethernet adapter that I bought.

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Re: vim syntax line

[Jerome BENOIT]

You get the point.

Thanks,
Jerome

Magnus Therning wrote:

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Hello List,

I have just noticed on my Lenny box that the vim syntax line command in files
does not work anymore whereas the syntax feature is on.
May I set something in vimrc to make it works ? or is it a bug ?


Are you talking about  `modeline'?

The relevant variables are `modeline' and `modelines'.

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back to basics: what's wrong with this exim condition statement?

[Bob Goldberg]

running debian etch (which is exim4);

I'm having problems with an ACL; so i've gone to absolute basics, and I
still have a problem :)

So here's what I have in my ACL:

  accept message = condition is false
condition = ${if eq{23}{123}{1}{0}}


next, I telnet in, and transact an email up to the rcpt to: command.
IF my condition uses 123 & 123 (IOW: it's true), my rcpt to: command is
accepted - just what I expected.
however, with the above condition, I would expect to get the message
"condition is false", and instead I get "unexpected failure".

I tried appending an "endpass", but that did nothing.

what's wrong with my accept / condition statements?

TIA - Bob

How to start KDE from a console prompt?

[Ron Johnson]

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Hi,

To enter GNOME, I type "startx".  I tried entering KDE by typing
"startkde" which I what I remember doing a couple of years ago when
I last tried it.  But it can't start X.

Anyone have any clues?

$ startkde
xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
xset:  unable to open display ""
xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
startkde: Starting up...
startkde: Running kpersonalizer...
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kwin: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
[etc etc ad nauseum]

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Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

[John Fleming]

- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "ML Debian-User" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:36 PM
Subject: How to start KDE from a console prompt?



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Hi,

To enter GNOME, I type "startx".  I tried entering KDE by typing
"startkde" which I what I remember doing a couple of years ago when
I last tried it.  But it can't start X.

Anyone have any clues?

$ startkde
xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
xset:  unable to open display ""
xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
startkde: Starting up...
startkde: Running kpersonalizer...
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kwin: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
[etc etc ad nauseum]

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Try /etc/init.d/kdm start (assuming you have kdm) and let us know.  startkde 
gives me similar messages, but starting kdm works fine.  - John 



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Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

[Michael Pobega]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:36:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> To enter GNOME, I type "startx".  I tried entering KDE by typing
> "startkde" which I what I remember doing a couple of years ago when
> I last tried it.  But it can't start X.
> 
> Anyone have any clues?
> 
> $ startkde
> [snip x errors]
> 

startx /usr/bin/startkde

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Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 12/11/07 19:52, John Fleming wrote:
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ML Debian-User" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:36 PM
>> Subject: How to start KDE from a console prompt?
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> To enter GNOME, I type "startx".  I tried entering KDE by typing
>> "startkde" which I what I remember doing a couple of years ago when
>> I last tried it.  But it can't start X.
>> 
>> Anyone have any clues?
>> 
>> $ startkde
>> xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
>> xset:  unable to open display ""
>> xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
>> startkde: Starting up...
>> startkde: Running kpersonalizer...
>> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
>> kwin: cannot connect to X server
>> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
>> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
>> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
>> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
>> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
>> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
>> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
>> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
>> [etc etc ad nauseum]
>> 
>
> Try /etc/init.d/kdm start (assuming you have kdm) and let us know. 
> startkde gives me similar messages, but starting kdm works fine.  - John

Thanks for the suggestion, but I strongly dislike DMs.

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Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 12/11/07 20:20, Michael Pobega wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:36:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> To enter GNOME, I type "startx".  I tried entering KDE by typing
>> "startkde" which I what I remember doing a couple of years ago when
>> I last tried it.  But it can't start X.
>>
>> Anyone have any clues?
>>
>> $ startkde
>> [snip x errors]
>>
> 
> startx /usr/bin/startkde

Remembering that, I tried "startx startkde", but that bombed.  Now I
know why...

If in 30 minutes you see my User Agent be KMail, it worked. :)

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Re: reporting aptitude errors

[Daniel Burrows]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:04:19AM +0100, roberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard 
to say:
> hello
> i am receiving a long list of errors from aptitude but i do not know
> how to copy and post them here ...

  If you are running at the command-line, you can click and drag to
select text, and then middle-click in your email program to copy it.
  If you are running in visual mode, you can shift-click and drag to
select text, and then middle-click in your email program to copy it.

  It would also be helpful if you include a brief description of what
you were trying to do when the error occurred.

  Daniel


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Re: System Lockup

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:50:26PM +0100, strawks wrote:
> > I just experienced my first ever system lockup.  No mouse, no keyboard 
> > with an Iceape screen open.
> 
> > I had saved a posting regarding SYSRQ and I tried Alt-Sysrq k then 
> > Alt-Sysrq i and the Alt-Sysrq b with no response. 
> 
> Did you really press those 3 keys at the same time? To see if it works
> switch to a console and try it there (Alt-Sysrq-s should print
> something).

should print something about syncing the disks.


> 
> > In desperation I crashed and rebooted the system.  I am using 
> > linux-image 2.6.21-2-686.  When the system came up I entered grep SYSRQ 
> > /boot/config-$(uname -r) and got the response CONFIG_MAGIC-SYSRQ=y
> > 
> > 
> > So its there.  Either I did something wrong or it doesn't work with the 
> > problem I encountered.
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought sysrq should work in any case but
> hardware problem as it's done directly in the IRQ handler.
> 

I think it's a kernel thing, and while it works in many lockup
conditions, obviously it doesn't work in all cases. 

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Re: Wating for root file system. Kernel bug?

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:13:49PM +0200, wanderlust wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I'm trying to install Debian/etch on Acer Aspire 5520G, but the problem
> is, that kernel 2.6.18 doesn't support Marvell netcard 436b. I found it
> is supportable in 2.6.23.9, so I decided to compile it. I used default
> configuration, taken from /proc/config.gz and after compiling and
> installing (using modules on initrd) I had to reboot to new kernel.
> 
> But I got a failure. Everything seems ok during loading from initrd, but
> kernel couldn't find root filesystem (module is available). I looked
> through /dev and found none sd devices (there is SATA disk on the
> laptop). Any ideas how to solve a problem? It works fine with 2.6.18
> kernel.

you're missing a module probably. rebuild the initrd with
'modules=most' in the confuration.

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Re: backup script partly fails when in cron.weekly

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:24:07AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> Benjamin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > But maybe you should not use this (in my opinion) unusual command "find
> > / -print ...". Instead use tar, like:
> > 
> > tar -zcvf /media/mirror/`date +%F`.tar.gz -C / --exclude=/media/*
> > --exclude=/proc/* --exclude=/sys/* --exclude=/mnt/*
> 
> Benjamin, thanks for the suggestion, but I had a problem with the
> script:
> 
> Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
> 
> I don't understand this error. 

It means that when tar followed all the instructions you gave it,
there was nothing left to put in the archive, so it sanely refuses to
create the archive. I looks like you're missing the final path on that
line. man tar

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Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?

[Andrew Sackville-West]

I"m running sid on my LinuxCertified lappy. It came with ubuntu
installed, which I wiped and replaced with debian on top of enxrypted
lvm. Works great. Everything works but suspend2ram. I could probably
make it work, but it's not worth it. I just shut it down. 

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Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:36:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> To enter GNOME, I type "startx".  I tried entering KDE by typing
> "startkde" which I what I remember doing a couple of years ago when
> I last tried it.  But it can't start X.

startx uses ~/.xinitrc to start up the X session. In case it doesn't
exist, then debian has some default stuff that starts whatever the
default window manager is. Look at `update-alternatives --config
x-window-manager` to set a different window manager as the default. 

Or, write your own .xinitrc (this is what I do) to start up a session
the way you want the simplest is to use a one line .xinitrc with

exec /usr/bin/startkde

startx will then fire up X, and hand over control to .xinitrc and then
when .xinitrc exits (it's essentially a regular bash script) X will
die.

> 
> Anyone have any clues?
> 
> $ startkde
> xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
> xset:  unable to open display ""
> xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
> startkde: Starting up...
> startkde: Running kpersonalizer...
> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
> kwin: cannot connect to X server
> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
> [etc etc ad nauseum]

startkde command starts a kde session, but it assumes an X session is
already running hence the need for calling startx with your own
.xinitrc, or changing the default window manager. Other solutions
exist as well like 'startx /usr/bin/startkde' I think.

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Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

[Kamaraju S Kusumanchi]

Ron Johnson wrote:

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> Hi,
> 
> To enter GNOME, I type "startx".  I tried entering KDE by typing
> "startkde" which I what I remember doing a couple of years ago when
> I last tried it.  But it can't start X.
> 
> Anyone have any clues?
> 
> $ startkde
> xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
> xset:  unable to open display ""
> xsetroot:  unable to open display ''


Others have given you good suggestions. Another approach is to just do

xinit

and once X starts, there will be an xterm in which you can type startkde.

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Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

[Ron Johnson]

On Tuesday 11 December 2007 08:29:02 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 12/11/07 20:20, Michael Pobega wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:36:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> To enter GNOME, I type "startx".  I tried entering KDE by typing
> >> "startkde" which I what I remember doing a couple of years ago when
> >> I last tried it.  But it can't start X.
> >>
> >> Anyone have any clues?
> >>
> >> $ startkde
> >> [snip x errors]
> >
> > startx /usr/bin/startkde
>
> Remembering that, I tried "startx startkde", but that bombed.  Now I
> know why...
>
> If in 30 minutes you see my User Agent be KMail, it worked. :)

Well, it seems to have worked.  Thanks.


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Re: no email

[Daniel Burrows]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 01:04:21PM -0500, Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:58:19 +0530
> Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:56:12AM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> > > Hello.  I'm subscribed to the digest of this list, and used to
> > > regularly receive email.  Suddenly, it stopped.  I resubscribed, but
> > > still am receiving nothing.  I now follow the list via the web.
> > 
> > Have you eliminated common problems, like a spamfilter at your end?
> > Sometimes, people don't realise that all their mails are silently
> > eaten up by the spam filters.
> > 
> > Kumar
> 
> I use sylpheed-claws-gtk, with bogofilter.  I check my spam file, and
> it's not going in there.

  What's upstream from you?  Could your ISP be "helpfully" dropping the mails?

  Daniel


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Re: volume mgmt w/o gnome

[Roan Horning]

Hi,

ivman (http://ivman.sourceforge.net/) is for automounting:

   Ivman is a generic handler for HAL
    events. Originally for
   automounting, it can now be used to run arbitrary commands when
   events or conditions occur or properties are modified on your
   hardware (e.g., run a command when you close your laptop's lid, run
   a command when a particular device is attached or a particular CD is
   inserted, etc)

It's available in debian (using your favorite apt frontend). I'm using 
it with XFCE to replace the functionality of gnome-volume-manager.


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Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

[Kent West]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

startx uses ~/.xinitrc to start up the X session. In case it doesn't
exist, then debian has some default stuff that starts whatever the
default window manager is. Look at `update-alternatives --config
x-window-manager` to set a different window manager as the default. 


Or, write your own .xinitrc (this is what I do) to start up a session
the way you want the simplest is to use a one line .xinitrc with

exec /usr/bin/startkde


  
I just put the bare "startkde" in my ~/.xinitrc. Of course, the method I 
use assumes I'm not doing other things in that file (which I'm not, 
other than switching between WMs via commented-out lines, as below).


My ~.xinitrc file looks something like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> cat .xinitrc
#icewm
#xterm
#wmaker
startkde
#xfce
#gnome-session

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Re: vim syntax line

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hi,

there is an explanation in the `debian.vim' .
Jerome

Lucas Prado Melo wrote:

I don't know why... but when it happens I (re-(?))install vim...

On Dec 11, 2007 8:00 PM, Jerome BENOIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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You get the point.

Thanks,
Jerome

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Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:31:40PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> startx uses ~/.xinitrc to start up the X session. In case it doesn't
>> exist, then debian has some default stuff that starts whatever the
>> default window manager is. Look at `update-alternatives --config
>> x-window-manager` to set a different window manager as the default. 
>> Or, write your own .xinitrc (this is what I do) to start up a session
>> the way you want the simplest is to use a one line .xinitrc with
>>
>> exec /usr/bin/startkde
>>
>>
>>   
> I just put the bare "startkde" in my ~/.xinitrc. Of course, the method I 
> use assumes I'm not doing other things in that file (which I'm not, other 
> than switching between WMs via commented-out lines, as below).
>
> My ~.xinitrc file looks something like this:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> cat .xinitrc
> #icewm
> #xterm
> #wmaker
> startkde
> #xfce
> #gnome-session

I always stick a

x-terminal-emulator at the end of that file so that if the WM bombs
for some reason, I'll get an xterm and at least know that X is
working...

also, I use `exec /path/to/WM` so that when the WM does work, it will
replace the current process so that upon exiting that xterm won't be
and keep the X session up. I think that's how it works

A


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