Re: Cannot connect to WiFi.

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 11/16/17, Jeroen Mathon  wrote:
>
> On 11/16/2017 11:28 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 15 Nov 2017 at 19:48, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
>>
>>> When "Authentication Key is required" dialog pops up and the key is
>>> entered,j Connect button remains grayed out/disabled. Thus there is no
>>> way to get through but pressing Cancel button.
>> What type of security are you using?  WEP or WPA?  I had this problem
>> with a WEP using access point. Switched to WPA and was fine.
>
>
> A good thing to also note is the length of the key.
>
> I think that the minimal length for the key was something arround 8
> characters.


That's a good one. One of them is 13 characters. I only know that from
messing around with it a couple years ago.

While doing the same earlier this year, nothing reminded that you need
that odd amount. It seems like that occurred in multiple unrelated
places, too, while I was "grasping at straws". :)

If I come across my specific case use again, it's at least wishlist
worthy to have some kind of advisement/reminder, e.g. at least a
cursor hover triggered tip, there in your face when you're first
setting that up..

Cindy :)
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Re: KDE startup instabiel in debian 9.2

[Jeroen Mathon]

Ik raad zelf de KDE live image aan, die komt met een hoop extra
configuraties waardoor die optimaal werkt.

Had zelf ook problemen met de Minimale installatie.


On 11/16/2017 12:50 PM, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:
> Jeroen Mathon:
>> Sjoerd:
>>> Eric:
 Ik gebruik KDE als mijn desktop-omgeving.  Sinds ik debian stretch 
 geïnstalleerd heb is de startup van KDE instabiel.

 Soms krijg ik alleen een zwarte achtergrond met de kde "throbber" in
 het wit en gebeurt er verder niets

 Soms krijg ik een zwarte achtergrond en thunderbird (die ik
 automatisch opstart), zonder decoraties, zonder taakbalk.

 Soms krijg ik een redelijk normaal ogende desktop, maar hebben
 windows geen decoraties.
>>> Ik heb iets dergelijks ook wel eens gezien. Sommige pakketten, die KDE
>>> nodig heeft, zijn dan niet geïnstalleerd. Bijvoorbeeld kwin, dat zorgt
>>> voor de windowdecoraties.
>>>
>>> Ik zou zeggen, voer dit commando uit, dan is alles weer compleet:
>>>
>>> # apt-get install kde-full
>> Heb je KDE geïnstalleerd via de Live DVD(KDE) of heb je dit vanuit een
>> minimal installatie gedaan?
> Vanuit een minimal installatie, een net-installatie. Als die eenmaal
> draait, dan vraagt de installer wat je verder nog wilt installeren. Daar
> heb ik o.a. KDE aangevinkt, dat wordt daarna nog gedownload.
> Maar dat is al lang geleden, in Etch of zo.
> Siondsdien is er bij KDE nogal wat veranderd, zoals die Plasma desktop en
> de overgang van QT4 naar QT5. Blijkbaar heeft men de boel niet helemaal bij
> elkaar weten te houden, om het maar zo te zeggen. Maar dat verbaast me
> eigenlijk niet.
>
> Maar met het installeren van kde-full is het volgens mij eenvoudig te
> verhelpen. Het is een soort meta-package dat ervoor zorgt dat alle nodige
> onderdelen van KDE weer aanwezig zijn.
>

Re: Firefox not displaying text on website(s)

[Sridhar M A]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev
 wrote:

> Have you checked font settings in Firefox?

I started with a clean $HOME/.mozilla so that system-wide defaults
would be used. Problem exists.

Checked the font list and set fonts specifically. Same problem.

> $ for f in [sans sans-serif serif monospace];do fc-match $f;done
>
It shows Dejavu fonts which are available in my system.

--
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Re: Cannot connect to WiFi.

[Jeroen Mathon]

Have you tried using a different interface to configure the network
instead of using the GUI one?

Like `nmtui` < Highly reccomend this as fallback for when the gui acts up.


On 11/16/2017 04:21 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 11/16/17, Jeroen Mathon  wrote:
>> On 11/16/2017 11:28 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 15 Nov 2017 at 19:48, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
>>>
 When "Authentication Key is required" dialog pops up and the key is
 entered,j Connect button remains grayed out/disabled. Thus there is no
 way to get through but pressing Cancel button.
>>> What type of security are you using?  WEP or WPA?  I had this problem
>>> with a WEP using access point. Switched to WPA and was fine.
>>
>> A good thing to also note is the length of the key.
>>
>> I think that the minimal length for the key was something arround 8
>> characters.
>
> That's a good one. One of them is 13 characters. I only know that from
> messing around with it a couple years ago.
>
> While doing the same earlier this year, nothing reminded that you need
> that odd amount. It seems like that occurred in multiple unrelated
> places, too, while I was "grasping at straws". :)
>
> If I come across my specific case use again, it's at least wishlist
> worthy to have some kind of advisement/reminder, e.g. at least a
> cursor hover triggered tip, there in your face when you're first
> setting that up..
>
> Cindy :)




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Re: No Sound - Puzzle

[Jeroen Mathon]

It is called, pavucontrol

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017, 17:43 Thomas George,  wrote:

> I would like to try this but there is no pamixer. apropos pulseaudio
> shows many pa... commands but no pamixer. apt-cache search pamixer
> returns a blank line.
>
>
> On 11/15/2017 09:45 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > please try all of this using pamixer, pulseaudio is controled by its
> > own mixer software not by alsamixer.  Remember pulseaudio when
> > installed manages alsa and not the other way around.
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Nov 2017, Thomas George wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:21:07
> >> From: Thomas George 
> >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >> Subject: Re: No Sound - Puzzle
> >> Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:28:49 + (UTC)
> >> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >>
> >> From a terminal run alsamixer, f6, select Xonar DSX
> >>
> >> On another terminal cd to a directory of ogg files, start a playback
> >> of a file.
> >>
> >> Oh the desktop start pulse audio volume control. Monitor shows strong
> >> active playback levels
> >>
> >> Switch to terminal running alsamixer, mute master front which mutes
> >> all output channels.
> >>
> >> Return to desktop pulse audio volume control, monitor continues to
> >> show strong active playback levels even though alsamixer thinks all
> >> output channels muted!
> >>
> >> The music goes down and around and comes out nowhere!
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/15/2017 03:35 PM, Thomas George wrote:
> >>>  I just installed an Asus Xonar DSX pcie card. Alsamixer recognizes
> >>> it and
> >>>  PulseAudio Volume Control show a strong signal level during
> >>> playback but
> >>>  no sound from the speakers. The system works with the onboard Nvidia
> >>>  sound, no problems.
> >>>
> >>>  I assume the problem is a missing linux driver for the Xonar but I
> >>> have
> >>>  seen claims that Xonar works out of the box on linux systems.
> >>>
> >>>  Does anyone have this working?
> >>>
> >>>  I am using Debian Stretch.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

Re: Firefox not displaying text on website(s)

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2017-11-16 10:28:38 +0530, Sridhar M A wrote:
> Yesterday when I updated my system, I got firefox 57. It does appear
> to work faster. But, I noticed that the sites I frequent, do not
> display the text: distrocwatch.com, slashdot.org, gmail, etc. Removed
> $HOME/.mozilla and checked again. Same problem :-(

Note that in the interface, the text is visible. So, it doesn't
seem to be an external font issue. I suggest that you try the
"Inspect Element" feature. It can give information about the
fonts.

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Re: No Sound - Puzzle

[Thomas George]

I would like to try this but there is no pamixer. apropos pulseaudio 
shows many pa... commands but no pamixer. apt-cache search pamixer  
returns a blank line.



On 11/15/2017 09:45 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
please try all of this using pamixer, pulseaudio is controled by its 
own mixer software not by alsamixer.  Remember pulseaudio when 
installed manages alsa and not the other way around.


On Wed, 15 Nov 2017, Thomas George wrote:


Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:21:07
From: Thomas George 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: No Sound - Puzzle
Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:28:49 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

From a terminal run alsamixer, f6, select Xonar DSX

On another terminal cd to a directory of ogg files, start a playback 
of a file.


Oh the desktop start pulse audio volume control. Monitor shows strong 
active playback levels


Switch to terminal running alsamixer, mute master front which mutes 
all output channels.


Return to desktop pulse audio volume control, monitor continues to 
show strong active playback levels even though alsamixer thinks all 
output channels muted!


The music goes down and around and comes out nowhere!


On 11/15/2017 03:35 PM, Thomas George wrote:
 I just installed an Asus Xonar DSX pcie card. Alsamixer recognizes 
it and
 PulseAudio Volume Control show a strong signal level during 
playback but

 no sound from the speakers. The system works with the onboard Nvidia
 sound, no problems.

 I assume the problem is a missing linux driver for the Xonar but I 
have

 seen claims that Xonar works out of the box on linux systems.

 Does anyone have this working?

 I am using Debian Stretch.

Re: New Motherboard installation question

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 16.11.2017 21:57, J.W. Foster wrote:
> I installed a new motherboard on a system that I run as as a server.
> Same system has 3 1tb disks with Debian stable installed, and 1 with
> Windows 10 installed, all booting at my discretion from grub. I was
> able to get all of the drives to operate, and Im using one for this.
> However I have noticed a crap load of boot error messages when I watch
> the system boot on anything except Windows, as it does not display any
> boot messages. As I said it's working but those error messages were
> not there before I replaced the motherboard, which was in fact
> defective. Both the old board and the new one are ASUS. I figure that
> I need to do some type of Linux maintenance reset, but as I have never
> done a replacement without doing a complete reinstall of all the
> software, I have no idea what to do. Any tips are welcome, and no I
> have not researched this online. I'm just seeking info from folks that
> have done this before.
> Thanks
> John
Can you show us what error messages exactly look like? It will be a good
start.
Use this command to get system logs:
    $ sudo journalctl -b

Also, post full specs of your computer.

It is probably a good idea to check ASUS support site for a BIOS update
for your motherboard, as recent hardware is likely to be rushed to the
market asap and patched later.

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Re: Cannot connect to WiFi.

[David Wright]

On Thu 16 Nov 2017 at 10:21:57 (-0500), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 11/16/17, Jeroen Mathon  wrote:
> >
> > On 11/16/2017 11:28 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, 15 Nov 2017 at 19:48, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
> >>
> >>> When "Authentication Key is required" dialog pops up and the key is
> >>> entered,j Connect button remains grayed out/disabled. Thus there is no
> >>> way to get through but pressing Cancel button.
> >> What type of security are you using?  WEP or WPA?  I had this problem
> >> with a WEP using access point. Switched to WPA and was fine.

You should be using WPA2 (AES) with no fallback, as attached.

> > A good thing to also note is the length of the key.
> >
> > I think that the minimal length for the key was something arround 8
> > characters.
> 
> 
> That's a good one. One of them is 13 characters. I only know that from
> messing around with it a couple years ago.
> 
> While doing the same earlier this year, nothing reminded that you need
> that odd amount. It seems like that occurred in multiple unrelated
> places, too, while I was "grasping at straws". :)
> 
> If I come across my specific case use again, it's at least wishlist
> worthy to have some kind of advisement/reminder, e.g. at least a
> cursor hover triggered tip, there in your face when you're first
> setting that up..

Perhaps the attached is what you mean.

Cheers,
David.

Re: two graphics cards and two monitors

[Don Armstrong]

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> I have done the above: removed xorg.conf and placed a copy of the log
> file at:
> 
> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucecesf/tmp/xorglog.txt

Perfect.

> The output of xrandr is:
> 
> $ xrandr --listproviders
> Providers: number : 2
> Provider 0: id: 0xc3 cap: 0x7, Source Output, Sink Output, Source Offload 
> crtcs: 4 outputs: 2 associated providers: 0 name:nouveau
> Provider 1: id: 0x64 cap: 0x7, Source Output, Sink Output, Source Offload 
> crtcs: 2 outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:nouveau

Awesome; X is seeing and reporting both cards, and then have Source/Sink
output support.

> but only two monitors are found/configured.

I *think* you should be able to use Reverse PRIME if you do the
following:

xrandr --setprovideroutputsource 1 0;

and then xrandr --query; should show the other source.

[The last time I did this setup, I was using multiple displays to do the
multiple monitor setup.]

> > In theory, you should also be using KML, which should configure all
> > of the outputs fairly early in boot as well.
> 
> Any pointers on how to do this would be welcome.

Assuming you aren't setting any kernel options, it should be the default now.


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Re: New Motherboard installation question

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 04:57:28PM +, J.W. Foster wrote:
>Any tips are welcome, and no I have not researched this online.

I would say that if you want specific suggestions, posting the actual
error messages is a good start.

>I'm just seeking info from folks that have done this before.

I have a server now that runs Stretch (HP microserver) that began life
in 2002 running Debian 3.0 (Woody).  The original machine was a Pentium
Pro 200 MHz with maybe 16 MB RAM.  It went from that box into a new
small form factor case with a mini-ATX (or was it micro-ATX?)
motherboard and a VIA C7 CPU.  That motherboard eventually failed and
was replaced, then the power supply later failed and that was when I
acquired the HP, which necessitated switching from 32-bit to 64-bit.

My main workstation is in a similar situation.  It started life in 2003
with an AMD Athlon XP CPU on a BioStar motherboard.  That machine went
through 4 motherboards from different manufacturers until a few years
ago I went to another Biostar motherboard with an Intel Core i5 CPU.

In every case, the main things which ended up being factors in the
migration were:

- kernel modules (my configuration either unconditionally loaded
  incompatible modules or blacklisted modules I needed)
- device naming assumptions that were not constant (e.g., references to
  things under /dev/disk/by-uuid)
- Left-over semi-persistent state files (e.g., in /var)

It is difficult to be more specific without the specific error messages
you are seeing.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
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vlc se para cuando me llaman al movil

[franiortiz hotmail]

Hola lista se que suena raro y quiza sea offtopic pero como me ocurre en debian
ya lo googlee y ni se acerca. Uso debian jessie 
Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2+deb8u5 (2017-09-19) x86_64 
GNU/Linux
sobre un hp8300 sff (tambien me ocurria con un lenovo m55)
mi movil es un homtom (tambien me pasaba con el anterior un movil bluboo)
El problema es que reproduzco con vlc un archivo de video sea local o red 
(wifi) y 
todo bien hasta que me llaman al movil, momento en el que vlc se para y no 
vuelve hasta que cuelgo el movil, aveces se queda parado y tengo que darle a 
play. No se si es cosa del vlc, debian, el pc, el movil, ni idea, muy perdido
Pero llevo ya unos años con estos sintomas y queria saber si a alguien mas le 
pasaba.

Re: Ayuda urgente

[Felix Perez]

El 16 de noviembre de 2017, 10:31, Sandy
 escribió:
> Pues chico me paso algo horrible en debian, pues descarque zimbra para el 
> correo el cual era un .pl lo ejecute pro la terminar pero al decirme que 
> eligiera la ubicacion de instalarlo ,pues yo le di /home/administrador/ pues 
> le digo que me borro todo lo que habai en las carpetas de home/ todas las 
> descargas ,pues me dejo debian como nuevo , como si lo hibiera acabado de 
> instalar alguien sabe porque eso pasa, o es que hay que darle otra ubucacion 
> ayudaaa pliss
>

Error capa 8
Preguntaste en la lista de zimbra?
Leiste la doc de zimbra, antes de instalar?
Que versión de debian?
Qué versión de zimbra?
...



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Re: KDE startup instabiel in debian 9.2

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Jeroen Mathon:
> Sjoerd:
> > Eric:
> > > Ik gebruik KDE als mijn desktop-omgeving.  Sinds ik debian stretch 
> > > geïnstalleerd heb is de startup van KDE instabiel.
> > >
> > > Soms krijg ik alleen een zwarte achtergrond met de kde "throbber" in
> > > het wit en gebeurt er verder niets
> > >
> > > Soms krijg ik een zwarte achtergrond en thunderbird (die ik
> > > automatisch opstart), zonder decoraties, zonder taakbalk.
> > >
> > > Soms krijg ik een redelijk normaal ogende desktop, maar hebben
> > > windows geen decoraties.
> >
> > Ik heb iets dergelijks ook wel eens gezien. Sommige pakketten, die KDE
> > nodig heeft, zijn dan niet geïnstalleerd. Bijvoorbeeld kwin, dat zorgt
> > voor de windowdecoraties.
> >
> > Ik zou zeggen, voer dit commando uit, dan is alles weer compleet:
> >
> > # apt-get install kde-full
>
> Heb je KDE geïnstalleerd via de Live DVD(KDE) of heb je dit vanuit een
> minimal installatie gedaan?

Vanuit een minimal installatie, een net-installatie. Als die eenmaal
draait, dan vraagt de installer wat je verder nog wilt installeren. Daar
heb ik o.a. KDE aangevinkt, dat wordt daarna nog gedownload.
Maar dat is al lang geleden, in Etch of zo.
Siondsdien is er bij KDE nogal wat veranderd, zoals die Plasma desktop en
de overgang van QT4 naar QT5. Blijkbaar heeft men de boel niet helemaal bij
elkaar weten te houden, om het maar zo te zeggen. Maar dat verbaast me
eigenlijk niet.

Maar met het installeren van kde-full is het volgens mij eenvoudig te
verhelpen. Het is een soort meta-package dat ervoor zorgt dat alle nodige
onderdelen van KDE weer aanwezig zijn.

Re: mensagem para assustar usuário

[Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro]

2017-11-15 23:40 GMT-02:00 Fred Maranhão :
>
> $ anki
> This is an BETA build - please do not package it up for Linux distributions
>
> primeiro que betas devem ser empacotados no unstable

Não necessariamente.  No caso, foi, portanto isso não é problema.  Mas
pode acontecer que um beta seja a única maneira de corrigir problemas
graves de algo que já está na estável ou na versão de testes, caso em
que pode-se permitir que migre da instável para testes e, daí, para a
estável.


> acho esta mensagem nada a ver, e estou pensando em abrir um bugreport
> para ela. o que vocês acham?

Claro.  A mensagem é desnecessária e confusa.  Poder-se-ia
substituí-la por algo como ‘este é um beta; envie relatos de erro para
os empacotadores, não para os autores’.


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Re: Firefox not displaying text on website(s)

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 11/15/2017 08:58 PM, Sridhar M A wrote:

Yesterday when I updated my system, I got firefox 57. It does appear
to work faster. But, I noticed that the sites I frequent, do not
display the text: distrocwatch.com, slashdot.org, gmail, etc. Removed
$HOME/.mozilla and checked again. Same problem :-(

The screenshots can be seen here:

https://imgur.com/lwjhGGu, https://imgur.com/Jcdo1Wg, https://imgur.com/KPyxmFN

Anyone else facing a similar problem?

If it matters, except uBlock, I do not have any other extensions. Even
with the extension removed, the behaviour is the same.

Regards,



I would click Customize and then click Restore Defaults, also make sure 
your addons are up to date.

--
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Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda2
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Firefox not displaying text on website(s)

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 03:51:10PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>     $ for f in [sans sans-serif serif monospace];do fc-match $f;done

Just for the record, you do not want those square brackets.  Not in
bash or any other Bourne-family shell, at least.

Ayuda urgente

[Sandy]

Pues chico me paso algo horrible en debian, pues descarque zimbra para el 
correo el cual era un .pl lo ejecute pro la terminar pero al decirme que 
eligiera la ubicacion de instalarlo ,pues yo le di /home/administrador/ pues le 
digo que me borro todo lo que habai en las carpetas de home/ todas las 
descargas ,pues me dejo debian como nuevo , como si lo hibiera acabado de 
instalar alguien sabe porque eso pasa, o es que hay que darle otra ubucacion 
ayudaaa pliss

-- 
Sandy 

Re: Firefox not displaying text on website(s)

[Sridhar M A]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Jeroen Mathon
 wrote:
> Does the same problem appear when using an older version of firefox?
>
As I had written, it was working fine with the old version.

-- 
Sridhar M. A.

Re: KDE startup instabiel in debian 9.2

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Jeroen Mathon:
> Ik raad zelf de KDE live image aan, die komt met een hoop extra
> configuraties waardoor die optimaal werkt.
> 
> Had zelf ook problemen met de Minimale installatie.

Met de door mij genoemde simpele methode om alles wat ontbreekt, alsnog toe
te voegen, draait KDE nu probleemloos op Stretch.
Geen idee wat je met die 'extra configuraties' bedoelt. Ik heb het complete
KDE met alle mogelijke configuraties.

KDE vind ik trouwens leuk om er ook bij te hebben, maar voor het meeste
werk vind ik Openbox of WindowMaker toch wel erg handig.

Re: Ayuda urgente

[Matias Mucciolo]

On Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:31:25 AM -03 Sandy wrote:
> Pues chico me paso algo horrible en debian, pues descarque zimbra para el
> correo el cual era un .pl lo ejecute pro la terminar pero al decirme que
> eligiera la ubicacion de instalarlo ,pues yo le di /home/administrador/
> pues le digo que me borro todo lo que habai en las carpetas de home/ todas
> las descargas ,pues me dejo debian como nuevo , como si lo hibiera acabado
> de instalar alguien sabe porque eso pasa, o es que hay que darle otra
> ubucacion ayudaaa pliss
> 
> --
> Sandy 

Buenas

por lo general zimbra se instala en la carpeta:

/opt/zimbra/

si lo queres meter en el home por X motivos(ejemplo espacio en la particion)
proba con:

/home/zimbra

saludos
Matias.-

Re: Firefox not displaying text on website(s)

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 16.11.2017 18:03, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 03:51:10PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>>     $ for f in [sans sans-serif serif monospace];do fc-match $f;done
> Just for the record, you do not want those square brackets.  Not in
> bash or any other Bourne-family shell, at least.
>
Indeed, my mistake. Looks like sleep deprivation finally caught up with me.
This is even worse, with those square brackets this command doesn't work
as intended.
"[sans sans-serif serif monospace]" will be interpreted by shell as
"[sans", "sans-serif", "serif", "monospace]" producing bogus output
without any error messages.

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Re: No Sound - Puzzle

[deloptes]

Thomas George wrote:

> I also wish alsa had a signal strength monitor. Maybe I should reinstall
> pulseaudio.

This is not a bad idea as pulseaudio is designed to work on top of alsa and
to make life easier.

In pulseaudio you can control your input and output, perhaps it is worth
looking in all tabs and selecting the appropriate input. In some cases the
fallback must be active (icon on the right pressed)

There are also ways to show level indication in alsa, but this is another
topic.

We asked you to control if channels in alsamixer are muted, you did not
report on that


regards

Potential bug in openmpi package?

[Haiyu Yang]

Hi there,
I'm trying to use openmpi with debian stretch. I found I can't run program
on slave nodes. mpirun will give me the error attached at the end of mail.
But when I switched to Ubuntu distro, it works fine.
My env is :
Debian stretch
openmpi-bin 2.0.2
tested in kvm machines and docker.

I'm pretty sure the ssh connection is good. Actually there is no connection
on slave's ssh log. I think it's some bug in orted. Because when I run
orted, it shows some error message. According to the message, the
my_hnp_uri is NULL and then cause some fatal error.

Does anyone have some idea about this?


openmpi error:

--
ORTE was unable to reliably start one or more daemons.
This usually is caused by:

* not finding the required libraries and/or binaries on
  one or more nodes. Please check your PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH
  settings, or configure OMPI with --enable-orterun-prefix-by-default

* lack of authority to execute on one or more specified nodes.
  Please verify your allocation and authorities.

* the inability to write startup files into /tmp
(--tmpdir/orte_tmpdir_base).
  Please check with your sys admin to determine the correct location to use.

*  compilation of the orted with dynamic libraries when static are required
  (e.g., on Cray). Please check your configure cmd line and consider using
  one of the contrib/platform definitions for your system type.

* an inability to create a connection back to mpirun due to a
  lack of common network interfaces and/or no route found between
  them. Please check network connectivity (including firewalls
  and network routing requirements).
--




orted error:


[m5101:02005] [[INVALID],INVALID] ORTE_ERROR_LOG: Not found in file
ess_env_module.c at line 145
[m5101:02005] [[INVALID],INVALID] bind() failed on error No such file or
directory (2)
[m5101:02005] [[INVALID],INVALID] ORTE_ERROR_LOG: Error in file
oob_usock_component.c at line 247
[m5101:02005] [[INVALID],INVALID] ORTE_ERROR_LOG: Fatal in file
routed_radix.c at line 476
[m5101:02005] [[INVALID],INVALID] ORTE_ERROR_LOG: Fatal in file
base/ess_base_std_orted.c at line 425
--
It looks like orte_init failed for some reason; your parallel process is
likely to abort.  There are many reasons that a parallel process can
fail during orte_init; some of which are due to configuration or
environment problems.  This failure appears to be an internal failure;
here's some additional information (which may only be relevant to an
Open MPI developer):

  orte_routed.init_routes failed
  --> Returned value Fatal (-6) instead of ORTE_SUCCESS
--



Best regards,
Haiyu

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

[Dan Norton]

On 11/13/2017 09:52 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

Dan Norton composed on 2017-11-13 21:38 (UTC-0500):


How do you set up LVM so that install does not clobber one of the
siblings? During installation, for partitioning, do you pick "Manual" or
"Guided -*" ?

I don't think I've ever used Debian's, or any Debian derivative's, "guided". I
can't remember the last time I didn't pick manual, after *fully* preparing in
advance to my specifications.

Manual will list what partitions and volumes exist, so if you've fully prepared
logical volumes in advance, all that should need to be done within manual is
select mount points and mount options for those you wish used. If volumes exist
but are not formatted, then formatting would be a third selection using manual.


A better description of what I want is "multiboot", instead of "dual 
boot" in this thread. I can see having up to 4 systems installed, all 
Debians, on one disk drive. There is an item in [1] which I see that reads:


  6. Disable LVM support

which is puzzling. Can multiboot be set up within LVM on one disk drive? 
Or, is it necessary to disable  LVM, define multiple logical partitions 
with fdisk or parted for example, install in these partitions, and then 
set up LVM separately on each system?


[1] http://fm.no-ip.com/PC/partitioningindex.html

Re: instalacion erronea

[juan carlos]

El 13/11/17 a las 16:51, Paynalton escribió:
si escogiste la instalación en modo texto presiona ALT+F2 para ver el 
registro de instalación. No sé si sea igual para el modo gráfico.


El dom., 12 de nov. de 2017 a la(s) 13:12, juan carlos rebate 
> escribió:


buenas gente, para quien me recuerde tengo 2 equipos uno sin internet
y otro con, el sin necesita debian 8 ya que el 9 no funciona en el, el
problema esque necesito una maquina vistual vmware 14 dentro del
debian 8, al instalar el debian 8 en la vm en el paso donde le indico
que cosas quiero instlar; ese paso donde eliges gnome, impresion,
utilidades del sistema y todo eso, pues justo al avanzar despues de
eso me dice que falló un paso de instalacion, como puedo ver el
registro de ese paso si se trata de una instalación nueva?, he probado
la 9 y tampoco funciona en la vm al igual que no funciona en la real

el alt f2 no sirve no me abre el log solo me abre una consola, necesito 
el log en el momento exacto del erorr alguna idea?

Re: KDE startup instabiel in debian 9.2

[Eric]

On 11/16/2017 12:34 AM, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:

Eric:

Ik gebruik KDE als mijn desktop-omgeving.  Sinds ik debian stretch
geïnstalleerd heb is de startup van KDE instabiel.

Soms krijg ik alleen een zwarte achtergrond met de kde "throbber" in het
wit en gebeurt er verder niets

Soms krijg ik een zwarte achtergrond en thunderbird (die ik automatisch
opstart), zonder decoraties, zonder taakbalk.

Soms krijg ik een redelijk normaal ogende desktop, maar hebben windows
geen decoraties.

Ik heb iets dergelijks ook wel eens gezien. Sommige pakketten, die KDE
nodig heeft, zijn dan niet geïnstalleerd. Bijvoorbeeld kwin, dat zorgt voor
de windowdecoraties.
Lijkt me niet het probleem. Uiteindelijk werkt alles, dus alle pakketten 
die nodig zijn, zijn aanwezig.

Eric

Ik zou zeggen, voer dit commando uit, dan is alles weer compleet:

# apt-get install kde-full

9.2 DNS Confusion

[Simon Slaytor]

Hi Folks,

Long time Debian user and up until now I've not had to reach out for 
help as I've always found the answer after a short Google.


I've recently made the move from 8.x to 9.2 for my production boxes and 
I'm having the mother of all DNS issues. My network is simple:


My network
2 x Juniper SSG-140 (Active/Passive) HA 1xTrust 1xDMZ 1xUntrust 
interfaces IPv4 only IPv6 is not enabled.

2 x Netgear GSM724 Switches

The Junipers do DNS proxying for the Trust and DMZ networks. Junipers 
are in NAT/Route mode.


Sitting onthe Trust network (172.16.11.0/24) are Debian 8.8 / 9.2 and 
Windoze 10 devices.
Sitting in the DMZ network (192.168.102.0/24) are Debian 9.2 and Centos 
7 devices


My problem is this, after a vanilla 9.2 AMD 64 install DNS resolution 99 
times out of 100 fails unless I force IPv4 for example:


@backup:~$ su
Password:
root@backup:/home/# cat /etc/resolv.conf
domain abc.com
search abc.com.
nameserver 172.16.11.1
root@backup:/home/# ip ad
1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
group default qlen 1

link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP 
group default qlen 1000

link/ether ca:57:82:c2:51:ad brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 172.16.11.22/24 brd 172.16.11.255 scope global eth0
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 fe80::c857:82ff:fec2:51ad/64 scope link
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
root@backup:/home/# ping www.apple.com
ping: www.apple.com: Temporary failure in name resolution
root@backup:/home/# ping -4 www.apple.com
PING e6858.dsce9.akamaiedge.net (2.18.170.28) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 2.18.170.28: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=19.3 ms
64 bytes from 2.18.170.28: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=19.7 ms
^C
--- e6858.dsce9.akamaiedge.net ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 19.311/19.508/19.705/0.197 ms
root@backup:/home/#

The above box is in the Trust network however the same result occurs if 
I use a host in the DMZ.


If I however use a Centos 7 box everything works as expected e.g.

[root@loadbalancer ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 192.168.102.1
[root@loadbalancer ~]# ip ad
1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN qlen 
1

link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP 
qlen 1000

link/ether 22:e7:41:55:a6:9c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.102.10/24 brd 192.168.102.255 scope global eth0
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 fe80::20e7:41ff:fe55:a69c/64 scope link
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[root@loadbalancer ~]# ping www.apple.com
PING e6858.dsce9.akamaiedge.net (2.20.214.243) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 2.20.214.243 (2.20.214.243): icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=28.4 
ms
64 bytes from 2.20.214.243 (2.20.214.243): icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=28.4 
ms

^C
--- e6858.dsce9.akamaiedge.net ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 2 received, 33% packet loss, time 2002ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 28.453/28.456/28.459/0.003 ms
[root@loadbalancer ~]

Also Windoze 10 boxes running on the Trust network and Debian 8 boxes on 
both have no issues its purely the 9.2 boxes.


Any help would be much appreciated.

Simon

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

[Felix Miata]

Dan Norton composed on 2017-11-16 13:34 (UTC-0500):

> A better description of what I want is "multiboot", instead of "dual 
> boot" in this thread. I can see having up to 4 systems installed, all 
> Debians, on one disk drive. There is an item in [1] which I see that reads:

>    6. Disable LVM support

If you look farther down your cite you'll find "What is LVM?". "Disabling LVM"
is only applicable to the OS/2 type of LVM. It causes the OS/2 kernel to use
native DOS-style FIFO assignment of drive letters.

> which is puzzling. Can multiboot be set up within LVM on one disk drive? 

Yes!

> Or, is it necessary to disable  LVM, define multiple logical partitions 
> with fdisk or parted for example, install in these partitions, and then 
> set up LVM separately on each system?

That would defeat most of the value of Linux LVM.

> [1] http://fm.no-ip.com/PC/partitioningindex.html
-- 
"Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you
get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: vlc se para cuando me llaman al movil

[Paynalton]

es extraño, si puedes usa wirewhark a escuchar en la red para ver si tu
teléfono está provocando problemas de red.

Si dices que sucede también con videos locales (en tu mismo disco duro)
puede ser un problema de EM invasora jejejee, Hay unos colgantes para
celular que venden en tiendas de baratijas chinas que encienden luces
cuando recibes una llamada, estos lo hacen al captar la radiación EM de los
teléfonos. Puedes usar uno y ver a que distancia de tu teléfono reacciona.
Si es eso te recomiendo leer algunos artículos sobre los efectos de la EM
en espermatozoides jajjaja.

El jue., 16 de nov. de 2017 a la(s) 09:14, franiortiz hotmail <
franior...@hotmail.com> escribió:

> Hola lista se que suena raro y quiza sea offtopic pero como me ocurre en
> debian
> ya lo googlee y ni se acerca. Uso debian jessie
> Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2+deb8u5 (2017-09-19)
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
> sobre un hp8300 sff (tambien me ocurria con un lenovo m55)
> mi movil es un homtom (tambien me pasaba con el anterior un movil bluboo)
> El problema es que reproduzco con vlc un archivo de video sea local o red
> (wifi) y
> todo bien hasta que me llaman al movil, momento en el que vlc se para y no
> vuelve hasta que cuelgo el movil, aveces se queda parado y tengo que darle
> a
> play. No se si es cosa del vlc, debian, el pc, el movil, ni idea, muy
> perdido
> Pero llevo ya unos años con estos sintomas y queria saber si a alguien mas
> le
> pasaba.
>
>

[CONTRIBUIÇÃO] - Telegram-Cli no Debian 8/9

[Henrique Fagundes]

Prezados,

Gostaria de contribuir com a comunidade com esses dois artigos:

Telegram CLI no Debian 8/9 com apenas um comando:
https://t.co/agVlWAl2ao

Enviando mensagens automática no Telegram com o telegram-cli:
https://t.co/VDPhJJEsEK

Abraços e obrigado a todos!

Atenciosamente,

Henrique Fagundes
henri...@linuxadmin.com.br
Skype: magnata-br-rj
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Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

[Joe]

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:34:52 -0500
Dan Norton  wrote:

> On 11/13/2017 09:52 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Dan Norton composed on 2017-11-13 21:38 (UTC-0500):
> >  
> >> How do you set up LVM so that install does not clobber one of the
> >> siblings? During installation, for partitioning, do you pick
> >> "Manual" or "Guided -*" ?  
> > I don't think I've ever used Debian's, or any Debian derivative's,
> > "guided". I can't remember the last time I didn't pick manual,
> > after *fully* preparing in advance to my specifications.
> >
> > Manual will list what partitions and volumes exist, so if you've
> > fully prepared logical volumes in advance, all that should need to
> > be done within manual is select mount points and mount options for
> > those you wish used. If volumes exist but are not formatted, then
> > formatting would be a third selection using manual.  
> 
> A better description of what I want is "multiboot", instead of "dual 
> boot" in this thread. I can see having up to 4 systems installed, all 
> Debians, on one disk drive. There is an item in [1] which I see that
> reads:
> 
>    6. Disable LVM support
> 
> which is puzzling. Can multiboot be set up within LVM on one disk
> drive? Or, is it necessary to disable  LVM, define multiple logical
> partitions with fdisk or parted for example, install in these
> partitions, and then set up LVM separately on each system?

I see the date of the page is 2015, but to be honest, a lot of this
page is completely obsolete, even more so if you're not using DOS, OS/2
or early Windows. I would not even swear that item 6, LVM, even refers
to the Linux system. There's certainly no problem about mixing multiple
booting with lvm.

A volume group would normally be declared within a single old-style IBM
partition, but doesn't have to be. Think of multiple hard drives, each
containing multiple old-style partitions, then think of multiple lvm
volume groups, each with multiple volumes, roughly overlaid on the
drives and partitions but not physically matching them. A volume group
can consist of multiple complete partitions on different drives, and
the volumes it contains need not bear any relationship to the
underlying partitions.

Multiple OSes will still use one overall bootloader, which may or may
not redirect to other bootloaders. It is common, therefore, to use a
single physical partition for /boot, common to all *nix OSes, but by no
means necessary. /boot can be an LVM volume if you wish, but a booting
problem is slightly easier to deal with if the kernel and grub stuff is
in a standard partition, you don't need to worry about looking up the
lvm commands in addition to the grub set.

My workstation, for example, has a 1GB primary partition for /boot, and
the rest of the drive is a second primary partition which maps exactly
to a volume group. The volume group is then divided into volumes, which
mostly act like old-style partitions, at least as far as mounting goes.
You can have a lot of them. 

I have two drives set up the same, as I migrated from one to a newer
one. After adjustment, the grub installation of the new drive handles
the boot, and the kernel used by the old system lives in the /boot
partition of the old drive. All of this could have been integrated into
one volume group, but it's two because that's how the system evolved. I
could pull the old drive, which I hardly ever touch now, plonk it into
another PC and boot it with minimal fiddling about.

So you have a common grub, basically from the latest installation
unless you tell the installer otherwise, and before the installation is
finished it should have detected any other bootable OSes anywhere in
the hardware. You've been advised not to share other partitions, even
/home, but several /homes can live in differently-named lvm volumes in
the same volume group. Or not, by your preference. You can, for the
most part, treat volumes as partitions, and not worry about whether
they are primary or logical.

You should probably track down a few tutorials on multiboot and lvm,
read through them to get a feel for what needs doing. It's always
difficult reading a manual for something and working out from that what
steps you need to take to do something. Things like UEFI boot and disc
encryption complicate things, so probably best to avoid them on your
first attempt(s) if the hardware allows. If you're starting with a bare
drive and your BIOS allows old-style IBM partitioning, that's the way
to go to get the hang of this.

-- 
Joe

Re: No Sound - Puzzle

[Jude DaShiell]

I thought debian had the pamixer command.  Archlinux has this one and I 
think it may be something you can download and build from GitHub - 
cdemoulins/pamixer: Pulseaudio command line mixer


On Thu, 16 Nov 2017, 
Thomas George wrote:



Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:43:03
From: Thomas George 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: No Sound - Puzzle
Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:43:22 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

I would like to try this but there is no pamixer. apropos pulseaudio shows 
many pa... commands but no pamixer. apt-cache search pamixer? returns a blank 
line.



On 11/15/2017 09:45 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 please try all of this using pamixer, pulseaudio is controled by its own
 mixer software not by alsamixer.? Remember pulseaudio when installed
 manages alsa and not the other way around.

 On Wed, 15 Nov 2017, Thomas George wrote:


 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:21:07
 From: Thomas George 
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: No Sound - Puzzle
 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:28:49 + (UTC)
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

 From a terminal run alsamixer, f6, select Xonar DSX

 On another terminal cd to a directory of ogg files, start a playback of a
 file.

 Oh the desktop start pulse audio volume control. Monitor shows strong
 active playback levels

 Switch to terminal running alsamixer, mute master front which mutes all
 output channels.

 Return to desktop pulse audio volume control, monitor continues to show
 strong active playback levels even though alsamixer thinks all output
 channels muted!

 The music goes down and around and comes out nowhere!


 On 11/15/2017 03:35 PM, Thomas George wrote:

 ?I just installed an Asus Xonar DSX pcie card. Alsamixer recognizes it
 and
 ?PulseAudio Volume Control show a strong signal level during playback
 but
 ?no sound from the speakers. The system works with the onboard Nvidia
 ?sound, no problems.

 ?I assume the problem is a missing linux driver for the Xonar but I have
 ?seen claims that Xonar works out of the box on linux systems.

 ?Does anyone have this working?

 ?I am using Debian Stretch.















--

[SOLVED] Re: Cannot connect to WiFi

[Juan R. de Silva]

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:48:00 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> My ISP replaced my old modem with the new one. I changed my WiFi
> Authentication key and the name of the WiFi network. Then I made Network
> Manager to "forget" my old WiFi. Network Manager finds my new WiFi but I
> cannot connect to it.
> 
> When "Authentication Key is required" dialog pops up and the key is
> entered,j Connect button remains grayed out/disabled. Thus there is no
> way to get through but pressing Cancel button.
> 
> I'm running Debian Stretch.
> 
> Could somebody help. It's quite urgent now.


The problem is solved. It was Bob Weber post that led me to solution, though 
the problem was a kind of different.

Here what I mean. Just by looking at my password, as entered into NM, I did 
not find any weird characters or trailing spaces in it. A typo was exclued 
since I copy-pasted it from my password manager storage. I was in loss and 
just for no reason, when in GNOME "Authentication required" dialog pressed 
Backspace once... All at a sudden I get through and connected!..

Then I copied the password I uncessfully tried to use in Network Manager and 
pasted it bellow a password copied from my modem/router (or as David rightfully 
called it "gateway" device).

That was it. The original password was 64 characters and the one in my modem 
was only 63 characters. Aparantly the modem has a limitation on the password 
length, which it neither shows to a user. Instead it sighlently cuts off any 
excessive characters.

Silly programmed device wasted 2 days of my time. Anyway I'm a happy bunny 
now, since it solved. :-)

Thanks folks. And the bigest credit goes to Bob.

Re: instalacion erronea

[Paynalton]

si no es el F2 puede ser en F3 o F4, debian va colocando el log en una de
las consolas.

También hay un archivo de log en /var/log/ que puedes revisar desde
cualquier consola.

El jue., 16 de nov. de 2017 a la(s) 13:08, juan carlos 
escribió:

>
>
> El 13/11/17 a las 16:51, Paynalton escribió:
>
> si escogiste la instalación en modo texto presiona ALT+F2 para ver el
> registro de instalación. No sé si sea igual para el modo gráfico.
>
> El dom., 12 de nov. de 2017 a la(s) 13:12, juan carlos rebate <
> nerus...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
>> buenas gente, para quien me recuerde tengo 2 equipos uno sin internet
>> y otro con, el sin necesita debian 8 ya que el 9 no funciona en el, el
>> problema esque necesito una maquina vistual vmware 14 dentro del
>> debian 8, al instalar el debian 8 en la vm en el paso donde le indico
>> que cosas quiero instlar; ese paso donde eliges gnome, impresion,
>> utilidades del sistema y todo eso, pues justo al avanzar despues de
>> eso me dice que falló un paso de instalacion, como puedo ver el
>> registro de ese paso si se trata de una instalación nueva?, he probado
>> la 9 y tampoco funciona en la vm al igual que no funciona en la real
>>
>> el alt f2 no sirve no me abre el log solo me abre una consola, necesito
> el log en el momento exacto del erorr alguna idea?
>

Re: instalacion erronea

[juan carlos]

El 16/11/17 a las 19:12, Paynalton escribió:
si no es el F2 puede ser en F3 o F4, debian va colocando el log en una 
de las consolas.


También hay un archivo de log en /var/log/ que puedes revisar desde 
cualquier consola.


El jue., 16 de nov. de 2017 a la(s) 13:08, juan carlos 
> escribió:




El 13/11/17 a las 16:51, Paynalton escribió:

si escogiste la instalación en modo texto presiona ALT+F2 para
ver el registro de instalación. No sé si sea igual para el modo
gráfico.

El dom., 12 de nov. de 2017 a la(s) 13:12, juan carlos rebate
> escribió:

buenas gente, para quien me recuerde tengo 2 equipos uno sin
internet
y otro con, el sin necesita debian 8 ya que el 9 no funciona
en el, el
problema esque necesito una maquina vistual vmware 14 dentro del
debian 8, al instalar el debian 8 en la vm en el paso donde
le indico
que cosas quiero instlar; ese paso donde eliges gnome, impresion,
utilidades del sistema y todo eso, pues justo al avanzar
despues de
eso me dice que falló un paso de instalacion, como puedo ver el
registro de ese paso si se trata de una instalación nueva?,
he probado
la 9 y tampoco funciona en la vm al igual que no funciona en
la real


el alt f2 no sirve no me abre el log solo me abre una consola,
necesito el log en el momento exacto del erorr alguna idea?

he probado todos los f pero ninguno funciona excepto el f2 con el alt 
marcado y eso solo abre la consola, pero si pulso solo f2 me sale las 
opciones de los pasos de instalacion pero ningun f me abre el log

Re: No Sound - Puzzle

[deloptes]

Thomas George wrote:

> I would like to try this but there is no pamixer. apropos pulseaudio
> shows many pa... commands but no pamixer. apt-cache search pamixer
> returns a blank line.
> 

$ ls /dev/snd/controlC*
/dev/snd/controlC0  /dev/snd/controlC1

you have two cards

to access first card use

$ alsamixer -c 0 

to access second card use

$ alsamixer -c 1

regards

RE: instalacion erronea

[juan carlos]

De: Paynalton
Enviado: jueves, 16 de noviembre de 2017 20:12
Para: juan carlos
CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Asunto: Re: instalacion erronea

si no es el F2 puede ser en F3 o F4, debian va colocando el log en una de las 
consolas.

También hay un archivo de log en /var/log/ que puedes revisar desde cualquier 
consola.

El jue., 16 de nov. de 2017 a la(s) 13:08, juan carlos  
escribió:


El 13/11/17 a las 16:51, Paynalton escribió:
si escogiste la instalación en modo texto presiona ALT+F2 para ver el registro 
de instalación. No sé si sea igual para el modo gráfico.

El dom., 12 de nov. de 2017 a la(s) 13:12, juan carlos rebate 
 escribió:
buenas gente, para quien me recuerde tengo 2 equipos uno sin internet
y otro con, el sin necesita debian 8 ya que el 9 no funciona en el, el
problema esque necesito una maquina vistual vmware 14 dentro del
debian 8, al instalar el debian 8 en la vm en el paso donde le indico
que cosas quiero instlar; ese paso donde eliges gnome, impresion,
utilidades del sistema y todo eso, pues justo al avanzar despues de
eso me dice que falló un paso de instalacion, como puedo ver el
registro de ese paso si se trata de una instalación nueva?, he probado
la 9 y tampoco funciona en la vm al igual que no funciona en la real
el alt f2 no sirve no me abre el log solo me abre una consola, necesito el log 
en el momento exacto del erorr alguna idea?
Ya lo consegui, el error es este 
Configuring pkgsel error con código de error 1 menu ítem pksel falled

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

[Dan Norton]

On 11/16/2017 02:06 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

Dan Norton composed on 2017-11-16 13:34 (UTC-0500):


A better description of what I want is "multiboot", instead of "dual
boot" in this thread. I can see having up to 4 systems installed, all
Debians, on one disk drive. There is an item in [1] which I see that reads:
    6. Disable LVM support

If you look farther down your cite you'll find "What is LVM?". "Disabling LVM"
is only applicable to the OS/2 type of LVM. It causes the OS/2 kernel to use
native DOS-style FIFO assignment of drive letters.


which is puzzling. Can multiboot be set up within LVM on one disk drive?

Yes!



OK, great!

Now I'll try to figure out whether each system should have its own 
volume group or its own logical volume within one vg. Would install go 
easier one way or the other?

Re: Re: KVM PCI Passthrough NVidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti error code 43

[Ramon Hofer]

Dear Alexander,

Thanks for your reply and sorry for my late response.
If I may ask you to reply to all and keep me in CC, this way I get the
email in my client and can easily answer.

> On 14.11.2017 02:37, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> > Thank you very much for your reply.
> > Interesting. I thought I was just not able to setup KVM / QEMU
> > properly. Because I read and heard that NVidia deliberately switches
> > the card off when the driver detects that it is virtualised.
> >
> > I am using the newest BIOS version (updated on Sunday) on the
> > motherboard: 
> > Supermicro C7Z170-M
> > BIOS Version: 2.0a
> > BIOS Tag: 1088B
> > Date: 07/17/2017
> > Time: 15:51:37
> >
> > Unfortunately I do not know anything about a bioy\uefi firmware
> > bug. Is this a known issue of my mainboard version?
> >
> > In the BIOS for the "Boot mode select" setting, I have chosen
> > "Legacy" (there would also be "UEFI" or "DUAL"). Do you think it
> > might be worth trying to change it to the other two?
> 
> I can't tell for sure if it will help. Basically, you have to enable
> VT-d, IOMMU in BIOS and stick with it.

I have enabled VT-d but could not find IOMMU in the BIOS.
But since:

> You can check if all features of QEMU are enabled on your host by
> typing: $ virt-host-validate

The command reports everything enabled.

virt-host-validate: https://pastebin.com/FUbNst11


> > I have uploaded dmesg output if it helps:
> > dmesg: https://pastebin.com/79Us7WMf
> >
> > In the Windows 7 guest, the reported IDs are:
> > VEN_ID: 10DE
> > DEV_ID: 1B06
> >
> > The driver version in the Windows 7 guest is:
> > 23.21.13.8813 (Date: 27.10.2017)
> >
> I'd try different versions of nVidia drivers, not only most recent one
> and perform clean install of the drivers.

Just to be sure: I do not need the drivers on the Debian host since the
GPU is passed through to the guest. I had clean installs of everything.
I will have to look at the weekend for an older driver and test it...


> > I have [...] postponed the purchase due to lack of patience.
>
> You can download and try Windows 10 for free and play with it for a
> 90-days trial period. Get the regular one, not LTSB.
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise
> Might be your best bet to try KVM with Windows 10 guest without
> spending any money.

Thanks for the tip. I created a Windows 10 Enterprise AMD64 guest.
Unfortunately with the same result.


Some other thing I was thinking: I read on the Supermicro homepage that
the C7Z170-M supports 7th generation i7s (like my i7-7700K). But in the
printed manual it was written that it only supports 6th Generation i7.
But then I gues it would not even boot up, if the CPU was not
supported. And the following findings also say otherwise.


To test if the card is not dead, I have just removed the nouveau
blacklist, and the options vfio-pci ids=10de:1b06,10de:10ef
in /etc/modprobe.d/vfio.conf.
After a reboot, I then installed nvidia-detect, nvidia-driver, and
nvidia-xconfig, as well as task-xfce-desktop on the Debian 9 host.
But when I booted, the display of the NVidia card remained black (just
like previously in the Debian guests). It is still possible to
Alt+Ctrl+F1 into a different terminal.
Then I reset the BIOS setting to the defaults and booted again into the
original Debian 9 host's XFCE4. This time it worked. I am now running
unigine benchmark and it runs quite well.


Now I think I do not understand the basic concept of PCI passthrough
correctly.
I have added again the /etc/modprobe.d/vfio.conf option and rebooted.
The nouveau driver was already blacklisted by a softlink
to /etc/alternatives/glx--nvidia-blacklists-nouveau.conf.
Probably I have to remove the nvidia-driver again to be able to reserve
the card for KVM?
First I set the primary video card in the BIOS to the internal
graphics of the mainboard/CPU.
Then I have retried it with Windows 10. Still no luck.


Not sure what to try next.
Thanks again for your much appreciated help and time.


Best regards,
Ramon

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

[Dan Norton]

On 11/16/2017 02:27 PM, Joe wrote:

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:34:52 -0500
Dan Norton  wrote:


On 11/13/2017 09:52 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

Dan Norton composed on 2017-11-13 21:38 (UTC-0500):
  

How do you set up LVM so that install does not clobber one of the
siblings? During installation, for partitioning, do you pick
"Manual" or "Guided -*" ?

I don't think I've ever used Debian's, or any Debian derivative's,
"guided". I can't remember the last time I didn't pick manual,
after *fully* preparing in advance to my specifications.

Manual will list what partitions and volumes exist, so if you've
fully prepared logical volumes in advance, all that should need to
be done within manual is select mount points and mount options for
those you wish used. If volumes exist but are not formatted, then
formatting would be a third selection using manual.

A better description of what I want is "multiboot", instead of "dual
boot" in this thread. I can see having up to 4 systems installed, all
Debians, on one disk drive. There is an item in [1] which I see that
reads:

    6. Disable LVM support

which is puzzling. Can multiboot be set up within LVM on one disk
drive? Or, is it necessary to disable  LVM, define multiple logical
partitions with fdisk or parted for example, install in these
partitions, and then set up LVM separately on each system?

I see the date of the page is 2015, but to be honest, a lot of this
page is completely obsolete, even more so if you're not using DOS, OS/2
or early Windows. I would not even swear that item 6, LVM, even refers
to the Linux system. There's certainly no problem about mixing multiple
booting with lvm.


Glad to hear it!



A volume group would normally be declared within a single old-style IBM
partition, but doesn't have to be. Think of multiple hard drives, each
containing multiple old-style partitions, then think of multiple lvm
volume groups, each with multiple volumes, roughly overlaid on the
drives and partitions but not physically matching them. A volume group
can consist of multiple complete partitions on different drives, and
the volumes it contains need not bear any relationship to the
underlying partitions.

Multiple OSes will still use one overall bootloader, which may or may
not redirect to other bootloaders. It is common, therefore, to use a
single physical partition for /boot, common to all *nix OSes, but by no
means necessary. /boot can be an LVM volume if you wish, but a booting
problem is slightly easier to deal with if the kernel and grub stuff is
in a standard partition, you don't need to worry about looking up the
lvm commands in addition to the grub set.

My workstation, for example, has a 1GB primary partition for /boot, and
the rest of the drive is a second primary partition which maps exactly
to a volume group. The volume group is then divided into volumes, which
mostly act like old-style partitions, at least as far as mounting goes.
You can have a lot of them.
Apparently there are many ways to do multiboot in LVM. Is it practical 
to, on one fairly large (1TB) disk, [I can hear the snickers when 
someone reads this when 1TB is puny in a year or two] do the following:


1. Enlarge the volume group to span the entire disk (it's currently 40G).
2. Define a number of additional logical volumes, say 3.
3. Install stable in one of the lv's and have install treat it like a 
standard *partition* (logical) and have within it separate root, swap, 
/var, /tmp, and /home?


 - Dan

  


I have two drives set up the same, as I migrated from one to a newer
one. After adjustment, the grub installation of the new drive handles
the boot, and the kernel used by the old system lives in the /boot
partition of the old drive. All of this could have been integrated into
one volume group, but it's two because that's how the system evolved. I
could pull the old drive, which I hardly ever touch now, plonk it into
another PC and boot it with minimal fiddling about.

So you have a common grub, basically from the latest installation
unless you tell the installer otherwise, and before the installation is
finished it should have detected any other bootable OSes anywhere in
the hardware. You've been advised not to share other partitions, even
/home, but several /homes can live in differently-named lvm volumes in
the same volume group. Or not, by your preference. You can, for the
most part, treat volumes as partitions, and not worry about whether
they are primary or logical.

You should probably track down a few tutorials on multiboot and lvm,
read through them to get a feel for what needs doing. It's always
difficult reading a manual for something and working out from that what
steps you need to take to do something. Things like UEFI boot and disc
encryption complicate things, so probably best to avoid them on your
first attempt(s) if the hardware allows. If you're starting with a bare
drive and your BIOS allows old-style IBM partitioning, that's the way
to go 

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Cannot connect to WiFi

[David Wright]

On Thu 16 Nov 2017 at 20:11:18 (+), Juan R. de Silva wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:48:00 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
> 
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > My ISP replaced my old modem with the new one. I changed my WiFi
> > Authentication key and the name of the WiFi network. Then I made Network
> > Manager to "forget" my old WiFi. Network Manager finds my new WiFi but I
> > cannot connect to it.
> > 
> > When "Authentication Key is required" dialog pops up and the key is
> > entered,j Connect button remains grayed out/disabled. Thus there is no
> > way to get through but pressing Cancel button.
> > 
> > I'm running Debian Stretch.
> > 
> > Could somebody help. It's quite urgent now.
> 
> 
> The problem is solved. It was Bob Weber post that led me to solution, though 
> the problem was a kind of different.
> 
> Here what I mean. Just by looking at my password, as entered into NM, I did 
> not find any weird characters or trailing spaces in it. A typo was exclued 
> since I copy-pasted it from my password manager storage. I was in loss and 
> just for no reason, when in GNOME "Authentication required" dialog pressed 
> Backspace once... All at a sudden I get through and connected!..
> 
> Then I copied the password I uncessfully tried to use in Network Manager and 
> pasted it bellow a password copied from my modem/router (or as David 
> rightfully 
> called it "gateway" device).
> 
> That was it. The original password was 64 characters and the one in my modem 
> was only 63 characters. Aparantly the modem has a limitation on the password 
> length,

The protocol sets the limits, not the router.

> which it neither shows to a user. Instead it sighlently cuts off any 
> excessive characters.
> 
> Silly programmed device wasted 2 days of my time. Anyway I'm a happy bunny 
> now, since it solved. :-)
> 
> Thanks folks. And the bigest credit goes to Bob.

The 64 character item is a different animal from anything with 63 or
fewer chars. A key of up to 63 ASCII printables will get encrypted
along with the SSID to produce a 64 character hexadecimal string which
is what actually gets used.

The 63 char limit is to allow a device to distinguish between the two
types of string if the unencrypted key were to contain only hexadecimal
characters, like beadedface18005551234 (the well-known tattoo parlour),
though many devices don't in fact allow direct entry of the encrypted
(64) string.

Cheers,
David.

Re: No Sound - Puzzle

[Thomas George]

I tried pavucontrol but still no sound.

I concluded there must be a conflict between also and pulseaudio so I 
purged pulseaudio. This did not help.


I switched the line out cable to the onboard sound card. With alsamixer 
set to the onboard sound card there sound and the volume can be 
controlled with the master/front control.


With the line out cable connected to the xonar card and the alsamixer 
set to the xonar card there is no sound. With pulseaudio purged there is 
no signal monitor but before its deletion pavucontrol showed the xonar 
connection and its signal monitor showed a strong signal.


Conclusion: Alsamixer shows volume settings for each sound card but does 
not switch to the output stream of the card, this remains the stream 
from the onboard  audio regardless of the alsamixer sound card selection.


There must be another setting switch the output stream.

I also wish alsa had a signal strength monitor. Maybe I should reinstall 
pulseaudio.



On 11/16/2017 11:44 AM, Jeroen Mathon wrote:


It is called, pavucontrol


On Thu, 16 Nov 2017, 17:43 Thomas George, > wrote:


I would like to try this but there is no pamixer. apropos pulseaudio
shows many pa... commands but no pamixer. apt-cache search pamixer
returns a blank line.


On 11/15/2017 09:45 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> please try all of this using pamixer, pulseaudio is controled by its
> own mixer software not by alsamixer.  Remember pulseaudio when
> installed manages alsa and not the other way around.
>
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2017, Thomas George wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:21:07
>> From: Thomas George >
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

>> Subject: Re: No Sound - Puzzle
>> Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:28:49 + (UTC)
>> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

>>
>> From a terminal run alsamixer, f6, select Xonar DSX
>>
>> On another terminal cd to a directory of ogg files, start a
playback
>> of a file.
>>
>> Oh the desktop start pulse audio volume control. Monitor shows
strong
>> active playback levels
>>
>> Switch to terminal running alsamixer, mute master front which mutes
>> all output channels.
>>
>> Return to desktop pulse audio volume control, monitor continues to
>> show strong active playback levels even though alsamixer thinks all
>> output channels muted!
>>
>> The music goes down and around and comes out nowhere!
>>
>>
>> On 11/15/2017 03:35 PM, Thomas George wrote:
>>>  I just installed an Asus Xonar DSX pcie card. Alsamixer
recognizes
>>> it and
>>>  PulseAudio Volume Control show a strong signal level during
>>> playback but
>>>  no sound from the speakers. The system works with the onboard
Nvidia
>>>  sound, no problems.
>>>
>>>  I assume the problem is a missing linux driver for the Xonar
but I
>>> have
>>>  seen claims that Xonar works out of the box on linux systems.
>>>
>>>  Does anyone have this working?
>>>
>>>  I am using Debian Stretch.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Cannot connect to WiFi

[David Wright]

On Fri 17 Nov 2017 at 02:35:22 (+), Juan R. de Silva wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:56:39 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> 
> > On Thu 16 Nov 2017 at 20:11:18 (+), Juan R. de Silva wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:48:00 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Hi folks,
> >> > 
> >> > My ISP replaced my old modem with the new one. I changed my WiFi
> >> > Authentication key and the name of the WiFi network. Then I made
> >> > Network Manager to "forget" my old WiFi. Network Manager finds my new
> >> > WiFi but I cannot connect to it.
> >> > 
> >> > When "Authentication Key is required" dialog pops up and the key is
> >> > entered,j Connect button remains grayed out/disabled. Thus there is
> >> > no way to get through but pressing Cancel button.
> >> > 
> >> > I'm running Debian Stretch.
> >> > 
> >> > Could somebody help. It's quite urgent now.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The problem is solved. It was Bob Weber post that led me to solution,
> >> though the problem was a kind of different.
> >> 
> >> Here what I mean. Just by looking at my password, as entered into NM, I
> >> did not find any weird characters or trailing spaces in it. A typo was
> >> exclued since I copy-pasted it from my password manager storage. I was
> >> in loss and just for no reason, when in GNOME "Authentication required"
> >> dialog pressed Backspace once... All at a sudden I get through and
> >> connected!..
> >> 
> >> Then I copied the password I uncessfully tried to use in Network
> >> Manager and pasted it bellow a password copied from my modem/router (or
> >> as David rightfully called it "gateway" device).
> >> 
> >> That was it. The original password was 64 characters and the one in my
> >> modem was only 63 characters. Aparantly the modem has a limitation on
> >> the password length,
> > 
> > The protocol sets the limits, not the router.
> 
> I agree. But I've meant quite a different thing. 
> 
> Whoever or whatever sets the limit, if the user makes a mistake and 
> enters into appropriate router field oversized password, it is a 
> responsibility of a good programmer to let the user know that the 
> password is going to be truncated. 
> 
> A user has a right to make a mistake, not have enough knowledge, even to 
> be dumb at the end. A good GUI programmer is expected to oversee such 
> things.
> 
> Silently truncating an entry IS a silly programming technic.

My intention was not to question your judgement on your experience,
but only to explain the significance of the strings you mentioned,
with lengths of 63 and 64. That wasn't apparent from your description
of both as "passwords" when only the shorter one is. Being aware of
the difference might help save the time of some future reader of
this thread.

Cheers,
David.

Re: need a video function in wheezy

[David Christensen]

On 11/16/17 18:21, Gene Heskett wrote:

I have a machine vision utility for use on a CNC machine, that uses
gladevcp.

But the launching script, in xml, is looking for a specific lib:

  

which if it ever did exist in wheezy, was since removed.

This script is of course editable, so are the functions that were in this
lib, now available in a different package? If so, likely suspects
please?


What about libgtk-3-0?

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libgtk-3-0


David

Re: Firefox not displaying text on website(s)

[Sridhar M A]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Vincent Lefevre  wrote:
>
> Note that in the interface, the text is visible. So, it doesn't
> seem to be an external font issue. I suggest that you try the
> "Inspect Element" feature. It can give information about the
> fonts.

Checked the font issue. It shows body to have Arial font, and
sans-serif as fall back. Arial is installed on my system.

Visited slashdot.org using both waterfox (https://imgur.com/mkvyMCS)
and firefox (https://imgur.com/JrhkYE5).
The webdev tool shows the text to be on the page. There is some
rendering issue which is probably not showing it on the actual web
page :-(


-- 
Sridhar M. A.

Re: Meetup Debian en streaming maintenant

[Thomas Savary]

Bonjour,

Je me doutais que mon intervention ne ferait pas plaisir. La critique est 
aisée, mais l’art est difficile…

Mon expérience vaut ce qu’elle vaut, soit, mais je ne peux m’appuyer que sur 
elle, après tout. Et, pour ce que j’ai pu maintes fois constater dans mon 
entourage ou dans le monde de la musique baroque (aux oreilles délicates, sans 
doute), les francophones parlant anglais avec leur accent français à couper au 
couteau et alignant les gallicismes comme ceux que j’ai entendus avant-hier 
sont difficilement compréhensibles des anglophones ou des étrangers parlant 
l’anglais correctement tels les Allemands ou les Néerlandais.
Alors, peut-être qu’entre mauvais anglicistes, entre Latins particulièrement, 
on se comprend très bien dans cet anglais dénaturé, mais si le but est d’être 
compris de tous, c’est raté, je pense.

Mais peut-être me trompé-je. Peut-être que dans le milieu informatique les 
anglophones ou bons anglicistes sont habitués à tous les massacres possibles 
et imaginables de la langue de Stallman et de Berners-Lee, peut-être qu’en 
effet on s’en fiche bien ou qu’on a pris son parti. Pour ma part, cependant, je 
ne supporte pas d’entendre malmener une langue : c’est presque physique, comme 
le vacarme d’une moto dans la rue ou le crissement d’une craie au tableau. Et 
je considère que massacrer ainsi une langue quand on avait le choix de faire 
autrement est un manque de respect pour les vrais locuteurs de cette langue.

Quant à ma suggestion d’une réunion en français par la suite sous-titrée, j’ai 
été à l’occasion traducteur depuis l’allemand ou l’anglais, sous-titreur et 
correcteur bénévole. Je sais le travail colossal que cela représente. Je n’en 
maintiens pas moins que c’eût été une meilleure solution, si les moyens 
humains l’avaient permis, que ce choix de l’anglais par des intervenants et 
auditeurs ne maîtrisant pas suffisamment cette langue correctement à l’oral.

Je ne dis pas que ce recours à l’anglais ne partait pas d’une bonne intention, 
mais, au vu du résultat, j’estime qu’elle est de celles dont est pavé l’enfer. 
Puisque, apparemment, il s’agissait de « ne pas exclure », eh bien, je tenais 
à dire que je m’étais senti, moi, senti exclu, même si mon niveau en anglais, 
pour moyen qu’il soit, m’aurait sans doute permis de suivre le déroulement de 
cette conférence si elle avait été tenue par des anglophones ou des anglicistes 
d’un bon niveau. Et quid des non-anglicistes ou très mauvais anglicistes ? Ça 
n’existe pas dans le monde informatique ? Bien sûr que si. Un de mes amis, 
informaticiens à la retraite, connaît TCL *, PHP, Javascript *, entre autres, 
alors que son niveau en anglais est déplorable.

À un niveau plus fondamental, sauf à être réellement bilingue, s’exprimer dans 
une autre langue que la sienne, c’est accepter de limiter sa pensée, et 
d’appauvrir son expression, de renoncer à quantité de nuances… Ce n’est pas 
pour rien qu’en matière de traduction professionnelle on fait toujours appel à 
un natif pour la langue cible chaque fois que c’est possible.

Sans doute cela porte-t-il moins, voire peu à conséquence pour des sujets 
techniques. Cependant, nous le savons, le choix des logiciels libres est aussi 
éthique et philosophique. Et si Debian est disponible en de si nombreuses 
langues, grâce aux bonnes volontés et à l’énergie de tant de bénévoles (pas 
uniquement du projet Debian, évidemment), n’est-ce pas aussi parce que la 
question de la langue est centrale ?

Est-ce qu’il est possible d’entendre à des bénévoles engagés et enthousiastes 
que leurs choix peuvent être malheureux ? Est-ce que l’action bénévole, pour 
louable qu’elle soit, est au-dessus de toute critique ?

Mais ça ne m’empêche pas d’être reconnaissant envers tous ceux qui contribuent 
à l’édification de Debian, KDE, Libreoffice *, Luatex *, Latex *, Context *, 
Frescobaldi, etc. Ni bien sûr d’essayer d’en faire la promotion autour de moi.

Voilà. Je crois avoir dit l’essentiel de ce que je voulais exprimer. Mon 
intention n’étant pas de « troller », je m’en tiendrai là. Désolé si j’ai pu 
blesser les organisateurs ou participants — la diplomatie n’est pas mon fort à 
l’écrit. En espérant avoir été tout de même un peu utile, ne serait-ce que 
pour permettre à certains de percevoir l’existence d’un problème.

Cordialement,

Thomas Savary
Le Grand Plessis
F-85340 L’Île-d’Olonne
Tél. 06 22 82 61 34
www.correctionpro.fr
www.compo85.fr

* Graphies volontaires. Dans mes échanges privés ou semi-publics, je refuse 
l’emploi de la casse de chameau.

jeudi 16 novembre 2017, à 12:36:55 CET, Aurélien COUDERC a écrit :
> Le 14 novembre 2017 20:26:23 GMT+01:00, Thomas Savary 
 a écrit :
> >Merci pour l’info. Mais, what the Hell ? Pourquoi est-ce en anglais ?
> >Tous les
> >locuteurs que j’entends sont à l’évidence francophones, et pour
> >beaucoup
> >massacrent l’anglais, tant par leur accent que par leurs erreurs. Je ne
> >dis
> >pas que je ferais mieux 

Re: Firefox not displaying text on website(s)

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 16.11.2017 09:58, Sridhar M A wrote:
> Yesterday when I updated my system, I got firefox 57. It does appear
> to work faster. But, I noticed that the sites I frequent, do not
> display the text: distrocwatch.com, slashdot.org, gmail, etc. Removed
> $HOME/.mozilla and checked again. Same problem :-(
>
> The screenshots can be seen here:
>
> https://imgur.com/lwjhGGu, https://imgur.com/Jcdo1Wg, 
> https://imgur.com/KPyxmFN
>
> Anyone else facing a similar problem?
>
> If it matters, except uBlock, I do not have any other extensions. Even
> with the extension removed, the behaviour is the same.
>
> Regards,
>
I'm not experiencing this problem, but I use custom font-manager config
to set some fonts as a system-wide default.

Have you checked font settings in Firefox?
You can use this bash command to check what fonts are substituted for
default fonts in Firefox:
    $ for f in [sans sans-serif serif monospace];do fc-match $f;done

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Re: Meetup Debian en streaming maintenant

[Aurélien COUDERC]

Le 14 novembre 2017 20:26:23 GMT+01:00, Thomas Savary 
 a écrit :
>Merci pour l’info. Mais, what the Hell ? Pourquoi est-ce en anglais ?
>Tous les 
>locuteurs que j’entends sont à l’évidence francophones, et pour
>beaucoup 
>massacrent l’anglais, tant par leur accent que par leurs erreurs. Je ne
>dis 
>pas que je ferais mieux qu’eux (sinon pour l’accent), mais pourquoi,
>bon 
>sang ? Je trouve que c’est insupportable pour les oreilles, et j’arrête
>le 
>visionnage, désolé.

Bonjour,

merci pour votre soutien réconfortant aux actions de bénévoles qui animent 
l'association.
Heureusement les conférenciers sont encore libre de leurs choix, et nous avons 
décidé de ne pas exclure les non-francophones présents à cet évènement.

Si vous souhaitez des évènements plus francophones que Debian n'hésitez pas à 
les organiser en précisant les conditions.


Librement,
--Aurélien

Re: KDE startup instabiel in debian 9.2

[Eric Meijer]

On 11/16/2017 09:08 AM, Jeroen Mathon wrote:

Heb je KDE geïnstalleerd via de Live DVD(KDE) of heb je dit vanuit een
minimal installatie gedaan?

Een update van Jessie.
Eric

Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

[Felix Miata]

Joe composed on 2017-11-16 19:27 (UTC):

> I see the date of the page is 2015,

IIRC, that 2015 update was all about updating and/or replacing broken links.

> Multiple OSes will still use one overall bootloader, which may or may
> not redirect to other bootloaders. It is common, therefore, to use a
> single physical partition for /boot, common to all *nix OSes

Mounting the same single primary partition as /boot to all *nix OSes invites
virtually the same trouble that installing Grub to MBR causes. Absent user
intervention, each OS thinks it owns the space, so at updates times, each stomps
on whatever is there at the time, eventually exhausting its freespace with a
multitude of diverse kernels and initrds. Only one OS, or no OS, should mount
the bootable physical partition to /boot. Others can either have their own
bootloader installed to their own / filesystem, or be used without their own
bootloader.

On most of my PCs, the bootable primary is never mounted to /boot. I manage it
manually myself, providing direct loading of kernels and initrds, as well as
chainloading entries, and configfile entries, the latter two used primarily when
prior kernels are to be booted, the former for most booting.

For someone doing multiboot the first time, it's easiest, if not a requirement,
for the first installation to have the primary mounted to /boot. The subsequent
installations either need to have no bootloader or bootloader only installed to
/; or, the newer can be configured to mount the primary on /boot, and the
original, prior to its next boot, preferably immediately prior to starting the
new installation, reconfigured to not mount the primary on /boot, not manage the
bootloader installed there, and relocate its content to its own / filesystem.

Multiboot setup is complex, one of the reasons why virtualization became
popular. There is no single right way to get where you want to go. For a
beginner it helps a lot to have an extra PC to do the learning, and for doc
access while doing the installations and configurations on the other. :-)
-- 
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get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Cannot connect to WiFi

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 11/16/17, Juan R. de Silva  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:48:00 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
>>
>> My ISP replaced my old modem with the new one. I changed my WiFi
>> Authentication key and the name of the WiFi network. Then I made Network
>> Manager to "forget" my old WiFi. Network Manager finds my new WiFi but I
>> cannot connect to it.
>>
>> When "Authentication Key is required" dialog pops up and the key is
>> entered,j Connect button remains grayed out/disabled. Thus there is no
>> way to get through but pressing Cancel button.
>>
>> I'm running Debian Stretch.
>>
>> Could somebody help. It's quite urgent now.
>
>
> The problem is solved. It was Bob Weber post that led me to solution, though
>
> the problem was a kind of different.
>
> Here what I mean. Just by looking at my password, as entered into NM, I did
>
> not find any weird characters or trailing spaces in it. A typo was exclued
> since I copy-pasted it from my password manager storage. I was in loss and
> just for no reason, when in GNOME "Authentication required" dialog pressed
> Backspace once... All at a sudden I get through and connected!..
>
> Then I copied the password I uncessfully tried to use in Network Manager and
>
> pasted it bellow a password copied from my modem/router (or as David
> rightfully
> called it "gateway" device).
>
> That was it. The original password was 64 characters and the one in my modem
>
> was only 63 characters. Aparantly the modem has a limitation on the password
>
> length, which it neither shows to a user. Instead it sighlently cuts off any
>
> excessive characters.
>
> Silly programmed device wasted 2 days of my time. Anyway I'm a happy bunny
> now, since it solved. :-)
>
> Thanks folks. And the bigest credit goes to Bob.


Yay!

AND a word I couldn't think of earlier just came to mind while reading
your success:

Tooltip.

LOTS of packages and websites are using those for text fields these
days. It's REALLY nice when they appear in many instances. In this
case, it would advise that we are to use yada-yada number of
characters that can be selected from numbers, alphabet, and sometimes
certain punctuation marks.

To accommodate those who don't like or need tooltips, there is often
some way of turning them off universally, too. Speaking firsthand, I
can't *stand* those oversized tooltips that are sometimes available
for browser tabs. :)

Tooltips are a handy usability feature. To me, they fall under
accessibility, too, because they're very *cognitively friendly*.

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

Re: [CONTRIBUIÇÃO] - Telegram-Cli no Debian 8/9

[thiagocanutof84]

Para que serve este Telegram CLI?


Em qui, 2017-11-16 às 16:30 -0200, Henrique Fagundes escreveu:
> Prezados,
> 
> Gostaria de contribuir com a comunidade com esses dois artigos:
> 
> Telegram CLI no Debian 8/9 com apenas um comando:
> https://t.co/agVlWAl2ao
> 
> Enviando mensagens automática no Telegram com o telegram-cli:
> https://t.co/VDPhJJEsEK
> 
> Abraços e obrigado a todos!
> 
> Atenciosamente,
> 
> Henrique Fagundes
> henri...@linuxadmin.com.br
> Skype: magnata-br-rj
> Linux User: 475399
> 
> https://www.aprendendolinux.com/
> https://www.facebook.com/AprendendoLinux
> https://youtube.com/AprendendoLinux/
> https://twitter.com/AprendendoLinux/
> _
> _
> Participe do Grupo Aprendendo Linux
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/portal-aprendendo-linux
> 
> Ou envie um e-mail para:
> portal-aprendendo-linux+subscr...@googlegroups.com
> 

Re: KDE startup instabiel in debian 9.2

[Jeroen Mathon]

Heb je KDE geïnstalleerd via de Live DVD(KDE) of heb je dit vanuit een
minimal installatie gedaan?


On 11/16/2017 12:34 AM, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:
> Eric:
>> Ik gebruik KDE als mijn desktop-omgeving.  Sinds ik debian stretch 
>> geïnstalleerd heb is de startup van KDE instabiel.
>>
>> Soms krijg ik alleen een zwarte achtergrond met de kde "throbber" in het 
>> wit en gebeurt er verder niets
>>
>> Soms krijg ik een zwarte achtergrond en thunderbird (die ik automatisch 
>> opstart), zonder decoraties, zonder taakbalk.
>>
>> Soms krijg ik een redelijk normaal ogende desktop, maar hebben windows 
>> geen decoraties.
> Ik heb iets dergelijks ook wel eens gezien. Sommige pakketten, die KDE
> nodig heeft, zijn dan niet geïnstalleerd. Bijvoorbeeld kwin, dat zorgt voor
> de windowdecoraties.
>
> Ik zou zeggen, voer dit commando uit, dan is alles weer compleet:
>
> # apt-get install kde-full
>




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Re: Firefox not displaying text on website(s)

[Jeroen Mathon]

Does the same problem appear when using an older version of firefox?


On 11/16/2017 05:58 AM, Sridhar M A wrote:
> Yesterday when I updated my system, I got firefox 57. It does appear
> to work faster. But, I noticed that the sites I frequent, do not
> display the text: distrocwatch.com, slashdot.org, gmail, etc. Removed
> $HOME/.mozilla and checked again. Same problem :-(
>
> The screenshots can be seen here:
>
> https://imgur.com/lwjhGGu, https://imgur.com/Jcdo1Wg, 
> https://imgur.com/KPyxmFN
>
> Anyone else facing a similar problem?
>
> If it matters, except uBlock, I do not have any other extensions. Even
> with the extension removed, the behaviour is the same.
>
> Regards,
>




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Re: Cannot connect to WiFi.

[Eric S Fraga]

On Wednesday, 15 Nov 2017 at 19:48, Juan R. de Silva wrote:

[...]

> When "Authentication Key is required" dialog pops up and the key is 
> entered,j Connect button remains grayed out/disabled. Thus there is no 
> way to get through but pressing Cancel button. 

What type of security are you using?  WEP or WPA?  I had this problem
with a WEP using access point. Switched to WPA and was fine.

-- 
: Eric S Fraga
: in Emacs 27.0.50 + Gnus v5.13 + evil-git-5d040cd
: BBDB version 3.1.2 (2017-01-30 14:47:26+00:00)


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Re: Cannot connect to WiFi.

[Jeroen Mathon]

A good thing to also note is the length of the key.

I think that the minimal length for the key was something arround 8
characters.


On 11/16/2017 11:28 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Wednesday, 15 Nov 2017 at 19:48, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> When "Authentication Key is required" dialog pops up and the key is 
>> entered,j Connect button remains grayed out/disabled. Thus there is no 
>> way to get through but pressing Cancel button. 
> What type of security are you using?  WEP or WPA?  I had this problem
> with a WEP using access point. Switched to WPA and was fine.
>




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need a video function in wheezy

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all;

I have a machine vision utility for use on a CNC machine, that uses 
gladevcp.

But the launching script, in xml, is looking for a specific lib:

 

which if it ever did exist in wheezy, was since removed.

This script is of course editable, so are the functions that were in this 
lib, now available in a different package? If so, likely suspects 
please?

Thank you.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Cannot connect to WiFi

[Juan R. de Silva]

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:56:39 -0600, David Wright wrote:

> On Thu 16 Nov 2017 at 20:11:18 (+), Juan R. de Silva wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:48:00 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi folks,
>> > 
>> > My ISP replaced my old modem with the new one. I changed my WiFi
>> > Authentication key and the name of the WiFi network. Then I made
>> > Network Manager to "forget" my old WiFi. Network Manager finds my new
>> > WiFi but I cannot connect to it.
>> > 
>> > When "Authentication Key is required" dialog pops up and the key is
>> > entered,j Connect button remains grayed out/disabled. Thus there is
>> > no way to get through but pressing Cancel button.
>> > 
>> > I'm running Debian Stretch.
>> > 
>> > Could somebody help. It's quite urgent now.
>> 
>> 
>> The problem is solved. It was Bob Weber post that led me to solution,
>> though the problem was a kind of different.
>> 
>> Here what I mean. Just by looking at my password, as entered into NM, I
>> did not find any weird characters or trailing spaces in it. A typo was
>> exclued since I copy-pasted it from my password manager storage. I was
>> in loss and just for no reason, when in GNOME "Authentication required"
>> dialog pressed Backspace once... All at a sudden I get through and
>> connected!..
>> 
>> Then I copied the password I uncessfully tried to use in Network
>> Manager and pasted it bellow a password copied from my modem/router (or
>> as David rightfully called it "gateway" device).
>> 
>> That was it. The original password was 64 characters and the one in my
>> modem was only 63 characters. Aparantly the modem has a limitation on
>> the password length,
> 
> The protocol sets the limits, not the router.

I agree. But I've meant quite a different thing. 

Whoever or whatever sets the limit, if the user makes a mistake and 
enters into appropriate router field oversized password, it is a 
responsibility of a good programmer to let the user know that the 
password is going to be truncated. 

A user has a right to make a mistake, not have enough knowledge, even to 
be dumb at the end. A good GUI programmer is expected to oversee such 
things.

Silently truncating an entry IS a silly programming technic.

Firefox with Firejail and "mailto:" URL's

[Vincent Lefevre]

I'm using Firefox in a sandbox with Firejail. The problem is that
the "mailto:; URL's no longer work, because I have a special config
for the mail (my own Mutt version + various scripts). I'm wondering
what can be done.

I could use Mutt in the sandbox by whitelisting/unblacklisting
various things, but I don't like this very much.

I would prefer to run Mutt out of the sandbox. Does firejail offer
a mechanism for something like that?

If this is not possible, I suppose I could use a script that stores
the URL in a file on the sandbox side, and incron on the desktop side
to invoke Mutt.

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