[RESEND] lxde error

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i'm new to debian. yesterday i did install debian on chromebook. i get
some error when i start lxde. attached file with error [1]. how can i
resolve it? 

$ lsb_release -d
Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.11 (jessie)

$ uname -a
Linux localhost 3.18.0-14597-g61c88fee5b70 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jul 13
12:01:12 PDT 2017 aarch64 GNU/Linux

$ dpkg -l | grep lxde
ii  lxde  6 
ii  lxde-common   0.99.0-1
ii  lxde-core 6  
ii  lxde-icon-theme   0.5.1-1
ii  task-lxde-desktop 3.31+deb8u1   

thanks,

[1]
https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/stuff/raw/master/jessie-birch/20180802_214248.jpg

Re: djbwares version 9

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On Wed, Mar 20 2019, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> ...snip...
>http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/qmail-patches.html#any-to-cname

just comment:
whenever i see these patches, i think qmail is not easy to handle.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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sorry for off-topic, i really curious some picture that have [Brian May] <- Queen?!

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Hello i'm Queen's fan, however i did discover [Brian May] in lists of
Maintainers file [1], when i sent mail to requ...@bugs.debian.org with
"getinfo maintainers" in body.

Who is it? Really is him Queen's guitarist?!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea.

[1] https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/stuff/raw/master/BrianMay.png

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Re: sorry for off-topic, i really curious some picture that have [Brian May] <- Queen?!

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Dear Brad,

On Sun, Mar 10 2019, Brad Rogers wrote:
> [...snip...]
>>Who is it? Really is him Queen's guitarist?!
>
> Debian's Brian appears to have the middle initial A, whereas Queen's
> guitarist has H (for Harold) as his middle initial.  Thus making it
> unlikely they're the same person.

Ah yes!~ i got it now, though Debian's Brian also rocks to me^^^
Thanks for quick comment!!!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: djbwares version 9

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On Thu, Mar 21 2019, Dan Ritter wrote:
> 황병희 wrote: 
>> On Wed, Mar 20 2019, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
>> > ...snip...
>> >http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/qmail-patches.html#any-to-cname
>> 
>> just comment:
>> whenever i see these patches, i think qmail is not easy to handle.
>
> qmail is the easiest mail server to understand and configure.

OK thanks, i'll try qmail within 10 years^^^

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Re: devscripts 'bts' mail setup

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> BTS_SMTP_HOST=posteo.de:587
> BTS_SMTP_AUTH_USERNAME=jsc...@posteo.net

sorry for other approach if you like postfix:
http://www.postfix.org/SOHO_README.html#client_sasl_sender

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Re: Detour: notmuch advertisement

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On Fri, Apr 12 2019, John Hasler wrote:
> Peter writes:
>> If you're using the kitchen sink, why not stay completely in emacs?
>
> Right.  Use Gnus.

Me too, Gnus is it!!!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: just mail forwarding to smart mailer

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> I am looking for an "easy light weight just empty the local queue and

Very very very easy thing: https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP

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Re: Debian Programming languages

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Hellow~

> I am guessing as the default command line interface is bash, then bash
> and bash scripting would be useful to learn but on top of that what
> would people suggest I try and promote.

To me, Python is easy, useful, for example, my custom message-id[1] is
from python3. Also Python is good with combine Bash command, you know
subprocess module within Python.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea.

[1] 
https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/raw/89bdb255a3fe7843da00d216e934c43120c373a9/thanks-mid.py

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Re: A call to drop gnome

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> So, I am asking that gnome be dropped as an installation option (not

FYI; Ubuntu 18.04 use GNOME as default desktop. Ah yes i'm fan of GNOME.

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Re: auxiliary mail client for HTML

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"Russell L. Harris"  writes:

> Several times a week I receive a HTML email with numerous links.  Mutt
> (or neoMutt, which I am using until I upgrade my Debian installation)
> seems not to be a good solution for such messages.

How about Gnus? Below is example:
https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/blob/master/ss/IMG_20191106_215916_resized_20191106_100052740.jpg

> What is a decent, simple GUI client which I can point at my maildir
> structure to read such messages and be able to open on the links with
> a click?
>
> I do not require SMTP; I plan to use Mutt for any response I send.
>
>

Sincerely,

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Re: auxiliary mail client for HTML

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"Russell L. Harris"  writes:

> Several times a week I receive a HTML email with numerous links.  Mutt
> (or neoMutt, which I am using until I upgrade my Debian installation)
> seems not to be a good solution for such messages.

How about Gnus? Below is example:
https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/blob/master/ss/IMG_20191106_215916_resized_20191106_100052740.jpg

> What is a decent, simple GUI client which I can point at my maildir
> structure to read such messages and be able to open on the links with
> a click?
>
> I do not require SMTP; I plan to use Mutt for any response I send.

Sincerely,

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Re: auxiliary mail client for HTML

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"Russell L. Harris"  writes:

> Several times a week I receive a HTML email with numerous links.  Mutt
> (or neoMutt, which I am using until I upgrade my Debian installation)
> seems not to be a good solution for such messages.

How about Gnus? Below is example:
https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/blob/master/ss/IMG_20191106_215916_resized_20191106_100052740.jpg

> What is a decent, simple GUI client which I can point at my maildir
> structure to read such messages and be able to open on the links with
> a click?
>
> I do not require SMTP; I plan to use Mutt for any response I send.
>
>

Sincerely,

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Re: upgrading only Emacs in LTS

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Sivaram Neelakantan  writes:

> I'd like to upgrade Emacs to the 26.x series and only that and it's
> dependencies.  Is there a way to do that?  A search on the web showed
> some confusing instructions.  Below are, hopefully, enough information
> for any suggestions. 
>
> user1@DESKTOP:~$ cat /etc/lsb-release
> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
> DISTRIB_RELEASE=18.04
> DISTRIB_CODENAME=bionic
> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS"
> user1@DESKTOP:~$ emacs --version
> GNU Emacs 25.2.2
> user1@DESKTOP-D9U3P3E:~$ sudo apt-cache policy emacs-nox
> emacs-nox:
>   Installed: 47.0
>   Candidate: 47.0
>   Version table:
>  *** 47.0 500
> 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> user1@DESKTOP:~$ sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade emacs-nox
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> emacs-nox is already the newest version (47.0).
>
>
> sivaram
>

A weeks ago, i did try like as:

$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get install emacs

Then only emacs things will be upgrading if there are some updated
thing. Ah yes i am also Ubuntu man at here.

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Re: Debian Installer Bug -Wifi driver not installed

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Peter Ehlert  writes:

> SOLVED

Thank You Very Much, Peter^^^
(because that is very important part in installing i think)

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Re: get an alert when a mail arrives from certain addresses

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> So I guess I will have to investigate in fetchmail [...]

As like fetchmai1, getmail also looks good.

Sincerely,

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Re: DMARC reports after emails sent to list

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Helow Andrew,

Andrew McGlashan  writes:

> Hi,
>
> On 14/10/19 9:42 pm, 황병희 wrote:
>> Andrew McGlashan  writes:
>>> I have DMARC with DKIM and SPF setup for my domain name.
>> 
>> There was related discussion: it's very seriosus... 
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754809
>
> Okay, well, I have p=quarantine for my setup, not p=reject, but that
> doesn't seem to be enough.
>
> I get reports from all over the place; the SPF failures may well be
> due to the list emails not having an SPF policy and I'm not going to
> give credentials to Debian to sent emails as me from my server for the
> list as that would be a security risk that is too great.
>
> DMARC needs to work, not be broken at all; it is supposed to help with
> legitimate mail delivery, not hinder it.
>
> SPF should be checked properly as well and emails rejected when they
> don't comply with the domain name's specified "rules".  So many domain
> names have multiple SPF records (which results in permerror as you can
> only have one SPF record).  It's not as if SPF is new, it has been a
> thing for quite long enough to treat it's rules appropriately.  It
> also annoys me when people use "~all"  to me that simply means,
> "screw it, we don't really care or we don't have a clue how to make
> this work"; it should be "-all" only, unless you are in a testing
> phase and are not yet committed to using SPF properly.  Of course
> using "~all" will help when servers don't otherwise play ball
> correctly, but it's still very wrong to me.
>
> It might be better if real mail servers could freely register
> themselves as proper mail servers, they get a signed assertion to use
> from some shared authority, everyone should register and then the
> spammers and fraudsters should be left out in the cold.  It would be
> important that legitimate servers be able to fix problems easily
> without extorting funds from them to fix things.  If you run a mail
> server, your reputation is at stake, and your rep should count for
> something; if you abuse your assertion, then you should be subject to
> losing it.
>
> Sure, there will be errors with setups as humans are involved; those
> should be found and fixed, then properly observed.
>
> There is another level of problems when emails are forwarded on to the
> rotten mass public mail services; ordinary forwarding brings all sorts
> of other problems (forward as attachment mitigates these problems, but
> it is less easy unless manually done from client email program).
>
> I can blacklist bad IP address of mail servers that are found to be
> doing the wrong thing (just like RBLs do), but I can't block out a
> whole bunch of providers that allow their users to send spam through
> them, such as Microsoft, Google, Yahoo and even Apple and that's
> before even thinking about sendgrid, mandrill and other mass mailing
> services -- we can't easily stop rubbish from those servers without
> blocking good users whom use those services.  It would be so much
> better if the big guys would shut up shop or otherwise crack down on
> bad users and stop the problems that require SPF, DMARC and the like.

Please, i'm using sometimes Amazon SES as outbond, so forgive me
i'm not spammer,, Anyway thanks for long comments!!!

> Kind Regards
> AndrewM
>

Sincerely,

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Re: alternatives to gmail?

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> [...] it could be of interest to you to take a look at text mail clients, 
> like mutt ou sup.

Also Gnus is not bad, i think...;;;

Sincerely,

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Re: Emacs tutorial [was: Extracting tabular text from a pdf]

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 writes:

> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:33:53PM +0100, Victor wrote:
>> 
>> Le 29 Nov 2019, Richard Owlett  a écrit :
>> >Any recommended Emacs tutorial? If retirement isn't for learning,
>> >what use is it ;}
>
> [useful links]
>
> And then, of course, Emacs's built-in tutorial, which you start
> whithin Emacs with C-h t (CONTROL-h -- this is an entry point to
> all of the Emacs help topics. To get an overview, just do C-h ?).

[useful tip]

And then, we can control Emacs with mouse.
So learning is not difficult, i think.

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Re: get an alert when a mail arrives from certain addresses

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> Any advice is welcome!

How about mobile phone SMS?
See https://aws.amazon.com/en/sns/sms-pricing/

Sincerely,

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Re: DMARC reports after emails sent to list

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Hellow Andrew!!!

Andrew McGlashan  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I have DMARC with DKIM and SPF setup for my domain name.

There was related discussion: it's very seriosus...
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754809

>
> When I sent emails to Debian lists, I tend to get a bunch of DMARC
> reports as a result.  The reports of concern are ones that show a
> sending IP for my domain that is the IP of the Debian mail server for
> the list.
>
> Is this due to email forwarding by Debian servers or is it for some
> other reason? How can I fix this?
>
> Do I need to add Debian's IP address to my SPF record?  I'm not sure I
> want to, but it may end the DMARC reports with failed SPF tests...
>
>
>
> Here is the output from a report:
>
> $ zcat
> noloop.tana.it\!affinityvision.com.au\!1570838400\!1570924800\!e4b6e7354
> eab4dd19d4c5016fd8a34e2.xml.gz
>
> 
> 
>   
>   tana.it
>   postmas...@noloop.tana.it
>   e4b6e7354eab4dd19d4c5016fd8a34e2
>   
>   1570838400
>   1570924800
>   
>   
>   
>   affinityvision.com.au
>   s
>   s
>   quarantine
>   none
>   
>   
>   
>   82.195.75.100
>   1
>   
>   none
>   pass
>   fail
>   
>   
>   
>   affinityvision.com.au
>   
>   
>   
>   affinityvision.com.au
>   2018061201
>   pass
>   
>   
>   lists.debian.org
>   permerror
>   mfrom
>   
>   
>   
> 
>
>
> Thanks and Kind Regards
> AndrewM

Sincerely,

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Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

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Tom Browder  writes:

> [...]
> Thanks, but I like a white os very light background.

Indeed, real hacker like light and white colors, i think.

Sincerely, StarWars fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Planning a Debian NAS

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> Mine are all RPi3+.

+1, also i think RPi is good.

Sincerely,

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Re: couple of questions from a new Debian user

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kaye n  writes:

> Also, is there a way to change the font color on the panel? ...

If i were you, i use Ubuntu. That start as GUI mode. Also GUI controling
such as color, font are easy in Ubuntu. Yes, i'm using Ubuntu for now. 

Sincerely, 

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Re: Browsing debian-user: news.gmane.org is now news.gmane.io

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Hellow Ralph^^^

Ralph Katz  writes:

> If you browse du from gmane as I do, note the new domain:  news.gmane.io
> news://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user
>
> source:
> https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/01/15/news-gmane-org-is-now-news-gmane-io/

Thanks for good News^^^

Sincerely, Gmane fan Byung-Hee

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Re: only for debian?

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> It's about VLC player.

Both Debian and Ubuntu have VLC player as package so your concern is no
off-topic. By the way i don't use VLC player soorry ;;; 

Sincerely, off-topic guy Byung-Hee

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Re: just a general question really

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> are things getting more complicated because there is something wrong ?

maybe you like off-topic? me too. exactly i'm always on off-topic
because my chromebook runs ubuntu 18.04 lts.

sincerely,

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Re: On systemd, raspbian and off-topics [was: systemdq]

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> I actually do enjoy off-topic tangents, and [...]

Me too, happy new year tomás ^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: Giveaway-Laptop: sending system mails

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Happy new year! Markus^^^

Markus Grunwald  writes:

> Dear List Participants,
>
> An elder friend of mine uses his 10 year old Sony Vayo with Windows 7
> mainly for browsing the net, homebanking, E-Mails. Due to several
> reasons, I want to give him a Laptop with Debian Linux that I will support.
>
> Several things should work to keep my active involvement low. One of the
> basics is: I want to get mails whenever "something" happens. I think
> that msmtp is the right tool for me, but correct me if I'm wrong, please.
>
> But, there is a problem: I have to put the plain mail password in
> /etc/msmtprc, because the normal user won't be there to unlock a gpg
> file or give msmtp the password in any other way. That means, I want
> /etc/msmtprc to be only readable by root (440). But then, users other
> than root (nobody maybe?) won't be able to send mails...
>
> I wonder if that could be solved in a better way? I don't want to miss
> anything from unattended-upgrades or logcheck or apt-listchanges...
>
> I would love to get your thoughts on that.

Already Reco gave you good points. Plus you are guru for E-mail
things. For a while, i did check your mail headers. Really you are
professional. You can do it. Don't give up please.

There are three tools -- msmtp, ssmtp, nullmailer. Persionally i use
nullmailer for now on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.

Sincerely,

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Re: just a general question really

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Hellow Cindy^^^

Cindy Sue Causey  writes:

> On 1/3/20, 황병희  wrote:
>>> are things getting more complicated because there is something wrong ?
>>
>> maybe you like off-topic? me too. exactly i'm always on off-topic
>> because my chromebook runs ubuntu 18.04 lts.
>
>
> Debian-Project is a good one to watch. I'd.. go back a couple of
> archived months to catch up to speed. Things are... tense. I'm
> catching "some" of the history, but it's... on my own personal "back
> burner" compared to what's happening in Tiny Town Meatspace, USA...
>
> I thank Debian Developers A LOT EVERY DAY for providing what I'm using
> to stomp down a very loud cyber foot against that "what's happening".
>
> All Debian right now. Connected straight to the Internet on one
> laptop. Not surprising that it's noticeably faster because only one
> operating system is working its magic on the data going in and out.
>
> Wvdial keeps saying I'm connected at 115200 [0] the last couple days.
> Beats the 1200 (1.2kb?) from THREE days ago. Printscreened for
> posterity.
>
> Worked out of the box on a debootstrap'ed install..
>
> After I buy a couple more of the dial-up modems involved, I'd chat it
> up with thoughts on that one hsfmodem thread that came up a couple
> months ago. This is the first time in MANY years that Debian has
> handled my Internet connection all by itself.
>
> That kind of... makes the recent "tense"... actually hurt a little to
> witness as "just a user" peeking in through an open developer
> window.

I don't think that i did understand your whole story. Though i like your
story. This is first time. I did get long letter in English. Thank you
for your time, your real life with Debian. 

> [0] Rumor used to be it didn't matter what you manually entered for
> the "Baud" field, you were going to, at most, get less than 57600,
> period. *hm*
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dial-up_Internet_access#Using_compression_to_exceed_56k

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

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[sorry actually it is off-topic]

Jude DaShiell  writes:

>> No, there are apline and gnus, to name a few.
> alpine will be a more correct spelling.

Really i read Reco's apline as *alpine* without doubt. There is some
magic?

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Re: Moderation (not!) [was: Debian is testing Discourse]

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[sorry man it just off message]

 writes:

> ...
> But I'm just a dumb C programmer :-)

Oh tomas! you awesome!
Actually i like C programmer(s) ^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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[OT] COVID-19 (Was: Re: fetchmail timeout)

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Cindy Sue Causey  writes:

> ..
> While checking trending one more time to see if there were any current
> references, a new trending topic is that Twitter direct messages are
> taking a hit right now. It all seems an understandable, predictable
> social networking side effect in light of our World's current health
> situation. Lots of folks turning to the Internet to stay in touch
> while physically isolated from each other.
>
> Cindy... Hoping everyone is safe and well.

Cindy! I hope you always stay health and happy^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: fetchmail timeout

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Pierre Frenkiel  writes:

> poll imap.gmail.com with proto IMAP auth password

It is just side comments. There is alternative software. The name is
getmail[*]. The getmail supports Gmail's label. It is available to
downloading messages from each Gmail's label. Personaly i use getmail
with Gnus. Always i'm happy with getmail + Gnus ^^^

[*] http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: bullseye LTS?

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Andy Smith  writes:

> Hi Byung-Hee,
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:29:46AM +0900, 황병희 wrote:
>> Hi i just curious about Bullseye [0]. The Bullseye will be LTS?
>
> Debian does not designate certain releases as LTS releases, so
> bullseye will be no more "an LTS release" than buster is now, or
> stretch, jessie etc were before them. You are taking an Ubuntu
> concept and trying to apply it to Debian.
>
> Debian *does* have an LTS team, who continue to provide security
> support on a best-effort basis after a release has become so old
> that it ceases to receive security support by the Debian security
> team. They've been doing this since the squeeze (6) release.
>
> For example, from 6 July 2020 stretch ceased receiving security
> support by the Debian security team and only receives such support
> from the LTS team. This will be for a limited selection of packages
> and may not be as speedy as regular security support. The LTS
> support for stretch will end on 30 June 2022.
>
> Ubuntu's LTS releases do tend to look tempting from a support
> lifetime point of view, but it is important to realise that quite a
> lot of useful software is excluded from their LTS support. I have
> also found updates of the things that are theoretically supported to
> be very varied.
>
> I run Ubuntu on some of my desktops and laptops and it is rare that
> I manage to reach the end of the theoretical LTS support schedule
> before needing updated software has forced me to upgrade release.
>
> For more information please see:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
>
> Cheers,

Thank you for kind story, Andy^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: When I log in it just shows my username and the $~ I’m completely new

[황병희]

Tox!c illude  writes:

> ... and the $~ I’m completely new

Ubuntu is good for beginner like as you, i think.
And Debian is not easy to handle, IMHO.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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bullseye LTS?

[황병희]

Hi i just curious about Bullseye [0]. The Bullseye will be LTS? If so i'm
willing to switch to Debian from Ubuntu at that time. Any comments
welcome!!!

[0] Bullseye -- Debian 11

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: bullseye LTS?

[황병희]

> Thank you for kind story, Andy^^^

And... i do realize that i have to stay in Ubuntu LTS for years because
my mindset is not stable for now...

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: Replacement Email Client

[황병희]

> Any suggestions?  

Surprisingly, Gnus handle very well HTML emails.

Sincerely, Gnus fan Byung-Hee

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Re: GIMP Crash

[황병희]

Ryan Young  writes:

> Here is the bug info
>
> ```
> GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.10.8

In that case, if you are in Debian, you would be send bug report.
So that the maintainer can be know what problem is.

https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

Actually, you must add contain keywords "Package" and "Version" ;;;

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: Python 3 Segmentation Fault

[황병희]

Dear Arun,

"J.Arun Mani"  writes:

> Hello.
> I'm using Debian Testing (upgraded from Debian 10). Today I started Python 3, 
> but it was not able to interpret any
> commands from stdin and resulted in Segmentation Fault. Luckily
> modules (python3 -m ) and files ...

Just i guess because you are in Debian *Testing*. Many people say Testing
is always dangerous. So you would be try to Debian stable or Ubuntu LTS?

Sincerely, Byung-Hee (my python3 is 3.6.9 in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS)

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a little bit off-topic (Was: Re: Python 3 Segmentation Fault)

[황병희]

Cindy Sue Causey  writes:

> Mine's Python 3.8.5 on Bullseye..

Howdy, Cindy^^^
*Because* i like very so much Bullseye^^^ 

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: [OT] Remote SSH (dynamic IP) without third-party server

[황병희]

> If there's any other simpler way (that doesn't imply the use of any
> third party) please let me know, I could use anything that works.

Or you can check the remote address by email (cron job) ;;;

Sincerely,

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off-topic: URIBL_BLACK

[황병희]

Hello,

After send some messages to debian-user@, i got URIBL_BLACK score in
SpamAssassin. So i'm now real spammer and i am very happy.

Though i'll do try myself to contributor as translator in Debian
Project.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: [OT] Requesting feedback for VPS/Cloud for email (MX) server?

[황병희]

Didar Hossain  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I want to host my own email on the cloud - I don't want to use G Suite or any
> other commercial service because I would like to have control over my email.
>
> I read around a little and it seems that most cloud providers block SMTP ports
> (25,587,465) from/t the internet as well sometimes from within their network.
> This poses a real problem for my deployment plans. Also, note that my design 
> has
> separate MSA (submission), Mailstore (IMAP) and MTA (MX) nodes.
>
> I have shortlisted Digital Ocean and Linode for my use because both of
> datacenters in India. Is anyone using either of them for MX service?
>
> Any and all feedback is most welcome including specialist/small VPS providers
> who I can consider to host the MX node for my domain at least.

If you intrested in Google Compute Engine, this is useful:
https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/tutorials/sending-mail/using-mailgun?hl=en

Also we can open (ingress) port 25 for MX at there Google Compute
Engine. Personally i'm using Google Compute Engine -- Ubuntu
18.04. And running MTA is Postfix.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

[황병희]

 writes:

> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 08:55:22AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> On Jo, 30 iul 20, 17:13:18, Brad Rogers wrote:
>> > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:58:10 +0200
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hello to...@tuxteam.de,
>> > 
>> > *PLEASE* fix your sig separator.
>> 
>> What difference does it make for a signature like his ("-- t")?
>
> (Thanks, Andrei :-)
>
> And to the OP...
>
> I know, I know. My signature is minimalistic: officially there SHOULD
> be a newline after the space after the dash after the --uh-- dash.
>
> I skip this newline. It's a quirk. I expect a teaspoon or two of
> Postel's Principle [1] applied to me as I grant it to everyone else.
>
> By the way, OP: "WHY DIDN'T YOU CHANGE THE MAIL'S SUBJECT LINE,
> HEIN?"
>
> Phew. Feels better now ;-P
>
> (And please: take this all with a grain of salt).
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] I know... again. There are people who don't really like Postel's
>Principle. I do. I do not want to discuss with you.
>
> -- t
>

My Gnus no problem, cheers up tomas!!!

Sincerely, tomas fan Byung-Hee

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Re: off-topic: URIBL_BLACK

[황병희]

"Thomas Schmitt"  writes:

> Hi,
>
> 황병희 wrote:
>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.4 required=4.0 [...]URIBL_BLACK[...]
>> [...]
>> i got URIBL_BLACK score in SpamAssassin.
>
> Grrr. Why are spam slanderers and virus scammers allowed to interfere
> with Debian ?
> Debian 10 installs a Firefox which accuses Debian ISOs of being malware
> and now our mailing list asks URIBL about the reputation of people's ISPs.
>
>   http://uribl.com/faq.shtml
>   "Can you tell me why my domain is blacklisted?
>No. [...]"
>
> I did not find a page yet where they would sell permissions to spam.
> But an honest libel service is nearly as bad as a bribable one.
>
> We cannot stop them, but we should not support them by including their
> info in spam decisions of Debian lists.
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>

You save me from dark side force. Thank you! Thomas^^^

Sicnerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: [OT] Requesting feedback for VPS/Cloud for email (MX) server?

[황병희]

> Good for you, but, I guess you are using mailgun for outgoing.

Yes, it is real good for me.

$ cat /etc/postfix/sender_relay (Postfix in Google Compute Engine)
soyeo...@yw.doraji.xyz [smtp.mailgun.org]:2525
soyeo...@bullseye.yw.doraji.xyz [email-smtp.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com]:2587
soyeo...@red-october.yw.doraji.xyz [email-smtp.us-east-1.amazonaws.com]:2587

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Newbie

[황병희]

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:26:00 -0700, Arun Mathai wrote:

> Hello Guys,
> 
> I am a total newbie for debian.
> 
> I have some technical difficulties and questions that i want to ask.
> 
> Could anyone please tell me how to proceed.

Hi Arun,

Yes this is question place.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U

[황병희]

Nicolas George  writes:

> Nicolas George (12020-06-27):
>> I need to buy a new computer. I am considering one based on the
>> AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, more precisely the ZOTAC ZBOX CA621 Nano.
>> 
>> From what I read on the web, it seems I would be able to get it working
>> with Debian Testing.
>> 
>> Can somebody confirm firsthand, for this processor or even better for
>> this specific computer?
>
> For the completeness of this list:
>
> The ZOTAC ZBOX CA621 Nano, based on AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, works, including
> GPU, with Debian stable but kernel 5.7.0-1-amd64 and firmwares from
> testing.

Good news!

Another story: Currently i am considering chromebook amd ryzen -- i
heard that from google news it may be rumor [Google Zork]. So still i
don't know for exact spec. Thogh i like that future chromebook! Always i
think chromebook is real linux machine!

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: How to write in Chinese

[황병희]

Markos  writes:

> Please,
>
> I am studying Chinese and I need to install fonts to type ideograms in
> Debian 9.
>
> ...
> Any tip?

Another comment: i would like to recommand "Google Noto CJK" as font.

Sincerely, CJK user Byung-Hee

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Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

[황병희]

Dear Flo,

Flo  writes:

> Hi All,
>
> I am using Debian Buster, Thunderbird, Sendmail and popa3d to get emails.
>
> The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has
> come to that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages'
> doesn't work anymore.
>
> Does anyone know about this issue? Any hints to solve it? I could try
> a different pop3 server?
>
> Any help is appreciated.

sorry man off-topic... so clever persons use Gmane for mailing
lists. and personal emails get by Google Apps or Gmail that have very
big file system for email messages.

Sincerely, off-topic man Byung-Hee

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Re: How to write in Chinese

[황병희]

Markos  writes:

> ...
> Thank you, 谢谢

Very nice!!!

Sincerely, CJK user Byung-Hee

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Re: How to write in Chinese

[황병희]

> IMO Chinese character is more appropriate word to use than ideogram

Really i need to study more about Chinese language, thanks for advice!

Sincerely, CJK user Byung-Hee

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Re: How to write in Chinese

[황병희]

> why do you recommend "Google Noto CJK"?

Its licence is *free* totally. So that became default font of Ubuntu
18.04 LTS for CJK users. Also that is used most Google products such as
Android, Chrome OS, as far as i know.

Sincerely, CJK user Byung-Hee

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Re: How to write in Chinese

[황병희]

> are you sure it's more free than fonts-wqy-* or fonts-arphic-*?

Google Noto CJK fonts were/are published under the SIL Open Font License. So
that became default fonts of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS for CJK users.

Sincerely, CJK user Byung-Hee

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Re: turn off receiving email

[황병희]

Dear Michael,

"Michael Morgan"  writes:

> ... not to receive email? 

Use Gmane: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane

Sincerely, Gmane fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Modern best practice for putting a contact email on the web

[황병희]

Hellow,

Celejar  writes:

> Hi,
>
> What's the recommended modern best practice for putting a contact email
> address on the web while avoiding having it scraped by spam / fraud
> bots?

Personally i use Gmail. That is all.

Thanks for reading my thought ^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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What does "Control: reassign -1 libaqbanking44" mean?

[황병희]

Hi i am translator Debain webpage in Korean.

At bug mailing,
some user wrote in body of message [1] as below:

#+begin_src text
Control: reassign -1 libaqbanking44
#+end_src

In particular, i am curious the digit "-1".
For long time i was thinking about that the "-1".

Is that "subtraction"? or another meaning?

Oh please really my head is stiff..

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=984980

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Re: What does "Control: reassign -1 libaqbanking44" mean?

[황병희]

Sven Joachim  writes:

> On 2021-03-12 02:13 -0400, Tony Rowe wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:36:59PM +0900, 황병희 wrote:
>>> Hi i am translator Debain webpage in Korean.
>>> 
>>> At bug mailing,
>>> some user wrote in body of message [1] as below:
>>> 
>>> #+begin_src text
>>> Control: reassign -1 libaqbanking44
>>> #+end_src
>>> 
>>> In particular, i am curious the digit "-1".
>>> For long time i was thinking about that the "-1".
>>> 
>>> Is that "subtraction"? or another meaning?
>>> 
>>> Oh please really my head is stiff..
>>>
>>> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=984980
>>  
>> Hi Byung-Hee,
>>
>> "-1" refers to making "one clone" of the bug report and is issued to 
>> the control server, usually by the packager of the package (as I 
>> understand it). [1]
>
> No, in this context it means "the bug you are replying to".
>
> https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.html#control

Oh now i understood all meaning!
Thank you very much Sven and Tony ^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: Sid: Korean input

[황병희]

didier gaumet  writes:

> Hello,
>
> Disclaimer: I have never done this for korean but I have done it for
> chinese (I am only able to type "sun" in chinese in order to verify it
> is functional)
>
> I would not bother with under-the-hood manipulations: install the task-
> korean and task-korean-desktop packages. this will take care of needed
> fonts, input methods and all. 
>
> This will not convert the user environment to korean but instead bring
> him the possibility to display and type korean inside his english
> environment.
>
> Then your user will be able by himself to click on an applet or a menu
> option (both are present, I think) to set up how he wants to input
> korean.
>
> Feel free to disagree but I would advise you against installing Sid
> rather than Bullseye for a user who is asking you to setup his korean
> environment, though: if he is not able to do this, how could he
> administer his computer? 

Thanks for good guidence! Also i need above your guide, thanks again!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: Sid: Korean input

[황병희]

Hellow!

Grzesiek  writes:

> Hi there,
>
> I was asked to install Korean input on XFCE4 environment. I have never
> done this before and I do not speak Korean.
>
> First question is if it is possible to get Korean input using standard
> US keyboard?
>
> I tried to follow this manual:
> https://linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_get_Korean_input_on_Debian
> Unfortunately, no luck. I added the following to .bashrc:
> export GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus
> export QT_IM_MODULE=ibus
> export XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus
> but ibus-setup still asks to add these variables. ibus-daemon is not
> started automatically. So:
>
> Is there any more detailed how-to? It would be perfect to have
> switchable English and Korean input.
>
> How to test? Remember I do not speak Korean and I have never used
> Korean input.
>

Sorry man Greg. There is no general way. Because there are many linux
distro and many input method program for Korean.

To me, i am using Nabi under Ubuntu 18.04 LTS currently.

Though, you would be wait for 30 days. Maybe i am willing to install
Debian 11 *Bullseye* into my new hardware (AMD Ryzen notebook).

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: Sid: Korean input

[황병희]

황병희  writes:

> Hellow!
>
> Grzesiek  writes:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I was asked to install Korean input on XFCE4 environment. I have never
>> done this before and I do not speak Korean.
>>
>> First question is if it is possible to get Korean input using standard
>> US keyboard?
>>
>> I tried to follow this manual:
>> https://linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_get_Korean_input_on_Debian
>> Unfortunately, no luck. I added the following to .bashrc:
>> export GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus
>> export QT_IM_MODULE=ibus
>> export XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus
>> but ibus-setup still asks to add these variables. ibus-daemon is not
>> started automatically. So:
>>
>> Is there any more detailed how-to? It would be perfect to have
>> switchable English and Korean input.
>>
>> How to test? Remember I do not speak Korean and I have never used
>> Korean input.
>>
>
> Sorry man Greg. There is no general way. Because there are many linux
> distro and many input method program for Korean.
>
> To me, i am using Nabi under Ubuntu 18.04 LTS currently.
>
> Though, you would be wait for 30 days. Maybe i am willing to install
> Debian 11 *Bullseye* into my new hardware (AMD Ryzen notebook).


Ah for a while i am stick aroud chromebook. So now i did install debian
11 bullseye into chromebook via linux support for chrome os. That is
easy but Korean input is not easy. And i did setup Korean input
environment by ~/.emacs.

#+BEGIN_SRC: emacs lisp
(set-fontset-font "fontset-default"
  'hangul "Noto Sans Mono CJK KR")
(set-input-method "korean-hangul")
(global-set-key (kbd "") 'toggle-input-method)
#+END_SRC

I am now input Korean with above 3 lines only under GNU Emacs.


This is my distro information on Chrome OS:
soyeomul@penguin:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description:Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Release:11
Codename:   bullseye
soyeomul@penguin:~$

And debian 11 runs Wayland.

Thanks (감사합니다) ^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

Re: Sid: Korean input

[황병희]

> #+BEGIN_SRC: emacs lisp
> (set-fontset-font "fontset-default"
> 'hangul "Noto Sans Mono CJK KR")
> (set-input-method "korean-hangul")
> (global-set-key (kbd "") 'toggle-input-method)
> #+END_SRC
>
> I am now input Korean with above 3 lines only under GNU Emacs.

The screenshot:
http://forum.ubuntu-kr.org/download/file.php?id=15593=e9de28599b6644a2b1d827f5c9ec0bff

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

help new install debian via WiFi

[황병희]

hellow

i did buy new notebook thinkpad ryzen.
and there is samsung galaxy phone (android).
this phone is internet router of my home.

and i am writing letter another chromebook.
this chromebook have debian 11 under chrome os.
this debian 11 is easy to connect internet.
because chrome os is detecting WiFi auto with easy.

ok man again i have to say my work in progress.

i have new another notebook that is thinkpad (not chromebook).
and i have one usb stick.
i downloaded mini.iso file.
and i put mini.iso in usb stick as follow commands:

#+begin_src: sh
$ sudo cp mini.iso /dev/sda1
$ sudo sync
#+end_src

then i did try to boot with usb stick on thinkpad notebook.

and that showed well the some configs such as lang/contry/keyboard
but faild to detacting internet zone.
that did to try searching some DHCP thing all the time.
fail and fail and so on...

so i did open chromebook and Gnus.

How can i connect WiFi zone (not DHCP) at new install (Debian 11)?


Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

Re: help new install debian via WiFi

[황병희]

Hellow! Eduardo^^^

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI  writes:

> Try the installer with non-free firmware, pretty much all Wi-Fi cards
> require non-free firmware: 
> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

Wow you are my hero!
How can i input the file into *the usb stick*?

With no error, i did download firmware-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso.
(My file system is Chrome OS that have linux shell and commands)

Thanks in advance,

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

[Solved] (Was: Re: help new install debian via WiFi)

[황병희]

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI  writes:

> On 13/09/2021 09:45, 황병희 wrote:
>> Hellow! Eduardo^^^
>> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI  writes:
>> 
>>> Try the installer with non-free firmware, pretty much all Wi-Fi cards
>>> require non-free firmware:
>>> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
>> Wow you are my hero!
>> How can i input the file into *the usb stick*?
>> With no error, i did download firmware-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso.
>> (My file system is Chrome OS that have linux shell and commands)
>
> The same way you copied the other installed: just cp the file to the
> drive. Something like
>
> # cp firmware-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdX
>
> Substitute sdX for the device your USB drive gets assigned. Be sure to
> use the whole drive, not a partition.

Thank you very so much all guys!
Eduardo, Stanislav, Andrei, thanks thanks thanks!

Here are the last screenshots:
http://forum.ubuntu-kr.org/viewtopic.php?f=15=31119=130056=cbfeb3d3e0982466ae84f1b6bd42255a#p130056

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

Re: new to debian

[황병희]

>  See here for detailed explanation:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

I added five lines, thanks Karthik!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

new to debian

[황병희]

Hellow~

Actually i am new to Debian. Especially i did install Debian 11 Bullseye
udner Chrome OS (ARM64 MT8173 Chromebook).

Before i used Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.

My question is:
Is this canonical way?

#+BEGIN_SRC: sh
soyeomul@penguin:/etc/apt$ cat sources.list
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main
soyeomul@penguin:/etc/apt$
#+END_SRC

That is only one line.

Thanks for any comments!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

Re: mail service

[황병희]

deloptes  writes:

> fxkl47BF wrote:
>
>> no offense taken
>> i use expect_mkpasswd to generate passwords
>> decades ago i got tired of trying to come up with user names
>> i just use expect_mkpasswd to make a short unique name
>> today everyone is trying to glean all of the personal info they can
>> i try not give out any more than is necessary
>
> but we are still human and at least I prefer seeing a human like name and
> not some scribles, but ofcourse it is your choice how you appear in the
> public.

+1;

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

Re: qmail package in bullseye

[황병희]

Dear Greg,

Greg Wooledge  writes:

> On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 09:58:11PM +0900, 황병희 wrote:
>> Hi, there is no qmail package in bullseye. what's wrong?
>
> If you wish to use qmail, the recommended way to do it is:
>
> 1) Install equivs, and use it to build the "mta-local" package.
>There's an example file for it:
>/usr/share/doc/equivs/examples/mail-transport-agent.ctl
>Read the instructions in /usr/share/doc/equivs/README.Debian .
>
> 2) Install the mta-local package (.deb file).  If you've already got a
>different Debian MTA package installed, this should remove it.  Or,
>you can use dpkg --force-depends to remove it manually, before
>installing mta-local.
>
> 3) Build and install qmail from your preferred source tree.
>
> 4) Set up the symlink from /usr/sbin/sendmail to /var/qmail/bin/sendmail
>or wherever you placed the qmail programs.
>
> 5) Set up whatever method you prefer to start qmail at boot time.
>
> The Debian packaging used to take care of those last two, but now it's
> up to us.
>
> Please note that the original qmail-smtpd is NOT good to use without
> patching or replacing.  It was written in an era when spam was only
> beginning to be a threat.  If you run qmail-smtpd on the Internet, you
> WILL become a joe-job spam bouncer, and we don't want that.
>
> If you're not up for the task of replacing qmail-smtpd, or restricting
> it solely to trusted internal LAN traffic, then please don't run qmail.
> It's not for everyone, and there are alternatives that would be a lot
> simpler to set up.

Thank you for very kind detail how-to, step-by-step. In honest, i did
want to do demonstration on QMTP with qmail. Anyway your article will
help me in the future!

Sincerely, QMTP fan Byung-Hee

qmail package in bullseye

[황병희]

Hi, there is no qmail package in bullseye. what's wrong?
Bellow are my environments:

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 11.2
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable-security'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 5.10.0-9-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads)
Locale: LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=ko_KR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

Re: qmail package in bullseye

[황병희]

Andy Smith  writes:

> Hello,
>
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 09:58:11PM +0900, 황병희 wrote:
>> Hi, there is no qmail package in bullseye. what's wrong?
>
> It was removed from Debian in May 2020 and hasn't been in a release
> since buster:
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=961289
>
> If you still have interest, can maintain a package and can find a
> Debian Developer to sponsor uploads you may be able to reintroduce
> it.

Always i'm beginner in Debian. I was just curious about qmail
status. Thanks for information, Andy and Roberto ^^^

Sincerely, Byung-Hee 

Re: qmail package in bullseye

[황병희]

Dan Ritter  writes:

> [...]
> In particular, Debian has the mailfront package, which is Bruce
> Guenter's qmail-compatible set of tools. From the description:
>
>   It contains complete SMTP, QMQP, QMTP, and POP3 front-ends as well as
>   an authentication module for IMAP.  The mail delivery front-ends also
>   contain internal address filtering features. 
>
>   Two SMTP back-ends are provided.  One delivers mail to qmail-queue,
>   mimicking most of the behavior of qmail-smtpd, with the addition of
>   support for SMTP AUTH.
>
> This is most likely your best path forward. 

Thanks Dan!

Sincerely, QMTP fan Byung-Hee

Re: why Debian?

[황병희]

Thanos Katsiolis  writes:

> Hello,
>
> I am new to the Debian distribution and I would like to hear opinions
> ...

Well, i like GNU Emacs than Debian. And i also new to Debian. Before i
used Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. Debian 11 Bullseye is not bad with GNU Emacs ^^^

Sincerely, Gnus fan Byung-Hee

Re: OT: Recommendation for a new Debian laptop

[황병희]

john doe  writes:

> Debians,
>
> i've been using a laptop for a fiew years now and before this laptop
> dies on me I would like to buy a new laptop.
>
> I'm thinking about two options:
> - Buying something of the shelph and installing Debian on it
> - Buying a pine64 or alike
> - Any other alternative?
>
> The only requirement is to have virtualisation available.

For now i am using ThinkPad E495. That is KVM(virt-manager)
available. CPU is AMD Ryzen. Very good with Debian 11 Bullseye.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 11.2
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable-security'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 5.10.0-9-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads)
Locale: LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=ko_KR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

Re: Google smtp and pop

[황병희]

황병희  writes:

> Douglas McGarrett  writes:
>
>> [...]
>> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to.
>> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious.  --doug
>
> Yes it is locked os. By the way chromebook runs on coreboot and linux
> kernel. So i love chromebook.  Thanks for feedback!

And i know FSF fans don't like this chromebook. My point is for a linux
developers and hackers! This article is useful: [^^^]

[^^^] https://usesthis.com/interviews/junio.c.hamano/

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Google smtp and pop

[황병희]

 writes:

> On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 12:26:19PM +0900, 황병희 wrote:
>> 황병희  writes:
>> 
>> > Douglas McGarrett  writes:
>> >
>> >> [...]
>> >> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to.
>> >> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious.  --doug
>> >
>> > Yes it is locked os. By the way chromebook runs on coreboot and linux
>> > kernel. So i love chromebook.  Thanks for feedback!
>> 
>> And i know FSF fans don't like this chromebook. My point is for a linux
>> developers and hackers! This article is useful: [^^^]
>> 
>> [^^^] https://usesthis.com/interviews/junio.c.hamano/
>
> Junio is a very smart and pleasant guy. Git is lucky to have such a
> maintainer. And we are all lucky to have git.
>
> But he works for Google [1]. I don't expect him to talk about Google's
> dark side. Heck, I don't expect him to even see Google's dark side.
>
> I wouldn't, in his position. We are all humans.
>
> I think the biggest mistake is to try to partition the world in Good
> and Evil. We all are a mix of both. And then some.
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] 
> https://opensource.googleblog.com/2011/03/geek-time-with-junio-c-hamano.html

Thanks for sharing such video! And thanks for comments on Good and
Evil in real life. Totally i agree with you tomás!

Sincerely, Linux and Chromebook fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

[황병희]

Ottavio Caruso  writes:

> One of my memory slot has died, so I am running a Thinkpad with 2GB
> ram only. I have been told that, even if I put a 4GB ram module in, it
> won't be as fast as 2x2GB ram (true? Stop me here if I am
> wrong). Never mind put an 8GB stick; it might not even work.
>
> At the moment I'm running a heavily hacked LMDE4 (Buster) with a lot
> of Mint customisations off. What flavour of Debian should I replace my 
> LMDE4 with? And does it make any difference? My memory hogs are
> Chromium and Firefox, the rest is ok.

Hi, grazie!

My 1st chromebook(codename: alex)[0] have only 2GB ram. At that time
(in 2016), i did install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS via Crouton[1] at there the
chromebook. It was not bad.

So if you want Debian, Jessie (stable)[2] seems proper to you, i guess. 
(also it would be good to try xfce ho ho ho ^^^)

REFERENCE: [0-2]
[0]

[1] 
[2] 

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Google smtp and pop

[황병희]

> Yours for a Google-free world...

Well i like very much chromebook. Currently i'm using Debian 11
Bullseye under chromebook ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Google smtp and pop

[황병희]

> So what suggestions does anyone have for dealing with OAUTH2 access to
> gmail?

Just i did make app password (a 16-digit passcode).

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Google smtp and pop

[황병희]

Douglas McGarrett  writes:

> [...]
> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to.
> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious.  --doug

Yes it is locked os. By the way chromebook runs on coreboot and linux
kernel. So i love chromebook.  Thanks for feedback!

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Wayland vs X

[황병희]

Dear Kevin,

Kevin Exton  writes:

> I tried Wayland some years ago now (might have been when they first
> trialled it in Ubuntu) but decided not to stick with it.

Well i don't know my login desktop what it is. Always i use default
values. Currently i'm using Debian 11 Bullseye under Chromebook. That
seems not X11, maybe... And i am happy with the default values.

#+begin_src text
soyeomul@penguin:~$ lsb_release -d
Description:Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
soyeomul@penguin:~$ env | grep wayland
WAYLAND_DISPLAY_LOW_DENSITY=wayland-1
WAYLAND_DISPLAY=wayland-0
#+end_src

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Wayland vs X

[황병희]

Dear Greg,

Greg Wooledge  writes:

> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 10:27:18PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>> I switched from mplayer to mpv ...
>
> And I switched from Latin-1 to UTF-8.

Very much i like UTF-8 world! Thank you for using UTF-8, Greg ^^^

> (...thanks...)

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: recommend music player?

[황병희]

kaye n  writes:

> Hello Friends!
>
> I am currently using Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
>
> Can anyone recommend a good music player with an equalizer where I can choose 
> Pop, Rock, etc.

Hellow~ thanks for using Debian 11 Bullseye!

Personally my computer is chromebook. I installed Debian 11 Bullseye
inside chromebook. In that case, YouTube is very useful music player. Ok
man sorry for off-topic music player. Though YouTube is so awesome, at
least, to me ...

Sincereley, Linux fan Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: mpd, clementine, lxmusic, qmmp, quodlibet not playing!

[황병희]

Dear Sharon,

Sharon Kimble  writes:
 
> After downloading and installing the new kernels yesterday I rebooted.
>
> And now I cannot get mpd to play any sound at all! Juk can play, as can
> mpv, but neither can clementine, lxmusic, qmmp, nor quodlibet play!
>
> So how can I get them all playing please? Has there been some changes
> resulting from the new kernels that affect audio output please? This is
> on a straight debian 11 install, with no debian 10 packages.

It would be to go back before kernel?! Or bug report please? 

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Solved (Was: Re: re-build for ssmtp)

[황병희]

황병희  writes:

>> So could you please give me debian re-build guidence?
>
> Perhaps this webpage is that guidence?
>
> <https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial>

Also i read these pages:
https://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/220460/how-to-build-a-specific-package-from-a-debian-source-package

And now i finished test with new ssmtp binary, thanks!

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: re-build for ssmtp

[황병희]

> So could you please give me debian re-build guidence?

Perhaps this webpage is that guidence?



Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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re-build for ssmtp

[황병희]

Hellow Debian!

Personally i like ssmtp. And today i did make some minor change:

#+begin_src text
soyeomul@yw:~/gitlab/ssmtp$ diff -uNr ssmtp.c.orig ssmtp.c
--- ssmtp.c.orig2022-02-18 12:28:08.712922559 +0900
+++ ssmtp.c 2022-02-18 13:18:51.807480300 +0900
@@ -1606,7 +1606,7 @@
}
 
outbytes += smtp_write(sock,
-   "Received: by %s (sSMTP sendmail emulation); %s", hostname, 
arpadate);
+   "Received: by %s (sSMTP sendmail emulation, from userid %d); 
%s", hostname, getuid(), arpadate);
 
if(have_from == False) {
outbytes += smtp_write(sock, "From: %s", from);
soyeomul@yw:~/gitlab/ssmtp$ 
#+end_src

By the way, i need re-build ssmtp for test.

A few hours ago, i did try as below:

  configure; make

however the new ssmtp binary don't offer starttls by test.
So could you please give me debian re-build guidence?

FYI; i get the source code from 

Thanks in advance!

Sincerley, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Pasenme la descarga directa, por favor.

[황병희]

Dear José,

 writes:

> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 10:16:13AM +0100, José Manuel Garrochena Boza wrote:
>> Necesito el firmware realtek rtl_nic/rt18168g.fw para poder instalar
>> kalinux 2021 net installer con mi TP-LINK USB Internet.
>
> Esto es una lista de correos para usuarios de Debian GNU/Linux. Creo que
> kalinux está por aquí:
>
>   https://forums.kali.org/
>
> Si buscas una lista de usuarios de Debian en lengua castellana, la encontrarás
> por allí:
>
>   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/
>
> ¡Espero que encuentres lo que buscas!

Well i don't know Spanish, by the way!

I guess you have hardware touble. In that case, i think you would be try
the latest Ubuntu distro! Also Ubuntu is Debian family like as Kali.

Ubuntu will be the best choice for hardware things!

(and thanks for guide, tomas!)

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Pasenme la descarga directa, por favor.

[황병희]

to...@tuxteam.de writes:

> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 07:27:52PM +0900, 황병희 wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Well i don't know Spanish, by the way!
>
> ...and I don't know Korean. I guess you span a much longer bridge
> between Korean and English than I could hope to span between Spanish
> and English.
>
> So my respect to you :-)
>
> Cheers

Thanks tomás! ALWAYS ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Solved

[황병희]

> And now i finished test with new ssmtp binary, thanks!

And i did file as Bug#1005970, for the record.

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Thunderbird security

[황병희]

> Security is always a tradeoff with usability; ...

+;

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: installing on Lenovo Ideapad 3

[황병희]

>> Unfortunately now the install doesn't detect an Ethernet card and gives 
>> me a long list of driver choices and I will have to figure out which one 
>> this laptop needs.
>
> Maybe a binary module is missing? Did you try an "unofficial" image with
> non-free components?

+1;

Months ago, the installation was successful. At that time my laptop was
Lenovo ThinkPad E495.

Relative link is:
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Monthly FAQ for debian-user mailing list

[황병희]

"Andrew M.A. Cater"  writes:

> (...thanks...)
>  Debian's community is world wide; don't
>assume others will agree with your views or need to read them on a
>Debian list.

Thanks, again i'll keep in mind ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee from South Korea

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Re: random usernames in attempts to break in to my machine?

[황병희]

Joe Pfeiffer  writes:

> This isn't really debian-specific, but I don't know a better place to
> ask...  recently, I've been having servers make a large number of
> attempts to access my mail host using what appear to be random strings
> as usernames -- it looks like this:
>
> Apr  4 03:04:30 snowball saslauthd[1179]: pam_unix(:auth): check pass; user 
> unknown
> Apr  4 03:04:30 snowball saslauthd[1179]: pam_unix(:auth): authentication 
> failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty= ruser= rhost=
> Apr  4 03:04:33 snowball saslauthd[1179]: : auth failure: 
> [user=1b391vovbh@pfeifferfamily.net] [service=] [realm=] [mech=pam] 
> [reason=PAM auth error]
>
> They all have the same form: .f...@pfeifferfamily.net
>
> I'm trying to understand the point; it's not like there's any chance any
> of those usernames will be valid.  This isn't they usual attempts using
> usernames like root, admin, test1, scan...  those I understand.
>
> So, anybody have any ideas what's up here?

Hellow Joe,

#+BEGIN_SRC python
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-

import re

p = re.compile("\
[1-9]?[0-9]?[0-9]\.[0-9]?[0-9]?[0-9]\.[0-9]?[0-9]?[0-9]\.[0-9]?[0-9]?[0-9]")

FPATH = "/var/log/auth.log" # you can edit here

f = open(FPATH, "r")
data = f.read()

f.close()

result = p.findall(data) # 

if __name__ == "__main__":
print(result)
print(len(result))
#+END_SRC

It is simple python3 script, first you could gather all ipv4 from
/var/log/auth.log, and then you can control traffic by other software
such as fail2ban, i think.


NOTES: all risk is your responsiblity ;;;

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: random usernames in attempts to break in to my machine?

[황병희]

> NOTES: all risk is your responsiblity ;;;

Please take tomas' message: (better way)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/04/msg00128.html

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Re: random usernames in attempts to break in to my machine?

[황병희]

 writes:

> On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 08:09:10AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
>> tomas writes:
>> > The only credible action left is to decide while the SMTP transaction
>> > is in process, and to terminate it early. Then, the upstream MTA will
>> > notice that something went wrong.
>> 
>> > Most MTAs these days support this option.
>> 
>> Too late. Note the part about POP3. The upstream MTA is Pobox or
>> Gandi. They have already completed the SMTP transaction with the sender.
>> Any anti-spam efforts involving SMTP termination are in their hands.
>
> That's why I run my own MTA :)

INDEED! I agree with you tomas ^^^

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Re: WAS: Re: Monthly FAQ for debian-user mailing list. Debian as worldwide

[황병희]

> In the same way, if I give my opinion
> about German politics / independence for Catalunya - Germans and people in
> Spain and Catalunya could say ""Who is this Andy Cater and what does he know
> about anything? He should just go away and mind his own business."

Very proper example! Thanks ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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Re: Autostart command after network is available (usbip)

[황병희]

Andy Smith  writes:

> [... long line snip ...]
> 
> https://strugglers.net/~andy/blog/2020/12/03/starting-services-only-when-the-network-is-ready-on-debiansystemd/

Thanks Andy! Added into my bookmark Firefox.

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee