Re: tbird troubles
On 4/15/24 10:01, gene heskett wrote: On 4/15/24 09:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:28:24AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launching t-bird, I get 2 copies of the gui stacked on top of each other. I can move them separately to 2 separate workspaces, and both appear to work for some definition of working, but quitting one actually quits both. How do you launch it? Are you clicking something? Are you DOUBLE-clicking something? A single click on the name from the internet section of the xfce menu. Try running "thunderbird" from a terminal emulator and see what happens. -- My signature has gone AWOL again.
Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared
On 4/17/24 15:37, Richmond wrote:> David Christensen writes: > >> My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to >> find if and where any error message is reported. > > What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? And is its filesystem mounted with noexec? > maybe it doesn't have permission to execute, or the process which starts > it doesn't have permission. -- When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world -- "No, YOU move." -- J. Michael Straczynski
Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared
On 4/18/24 05:27, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe it doesn't have permission to execute, or the process which starts it doesn't have permission. 2024-04-18 02:24:20 root@laalaa ~ # ls -l `which nm-applet` -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 250784 Feb 27 2021 /usr/bin/nm-applet I do not know what binary starts nm-applet, but here is a WAG: 2024-04-18 02:27:13 root@laalaa ~ # ll -l `which xfce4-panel` -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 363328 2021-02-27 08:29:44 /usr/bin/xfce4-panel Can PPID tell you? -- "I have 140,737,488,355,328* mb RAM." Case matters. * Depending on how you interpret things
Re: SOLVED: Re: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade
On 4/24/24 00:46, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? Correction: the 4TB drive is a Western Digital WD40EFPX. I was reading it by shining a flashlight through a gap in the frame and squinting from a wide angle because I didn't want to take the box apart yet again. Note for the future: hdparm -i can give you that info. If you think that's changed since boot, hdparm -I reads it from the drive.
Re: Markup in mail messages
On 5/14/24 22:17, Max Nikulin wrote: On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. [...] The only sensible interpretation I can come up with for why these asterisks were added is that they're being placed around text that's supposed to be emphasized/italicized. *Bold*, /italics/, and _underlined_ markup is supported by various mailers, e.g. Thunderbird and Gnus. Some render superscripts^1 and subscripts_2 as well. Backticks (`echo $PATH`) are more specific to markdown. However sometimes I use them not expecting that the message will be rendered as markdown. Just to avoid ambiguity where a piece of code starts and ends. If your mail path is sufficiently modern, you might be able to use Unicode subscripts₁ and superscripts². But, they're kind of a pain to type for >1 character.
Re: seeding /dev/random from a security key
On 3/25/24 17:27, Andy Smith wrote: The thread covers how to make rngd feed /dev/random from a OneRNG in Debian 12, but it is no longer possible to tell if that does anything useful. If not from devices like this, from where does Debian get its randomness? -- For is it not written, wheresoever two or three are gathered together, yea they will perform the Parrot Sketch. -- Rob on ASR
Re: Bookworm: Where are the ImageMagick binaries other than `convert`?
On 4/1/24 21:37, Christian Gelinek wrote: Hi, I have ImageMagick installed, but only the `convert` binary is in my path. Other binaries like `magick` are not. Where can I find them, In Synaptic, if you get the properties of an installed package one of the tabs is "installed files". You can find out where (or whether) those things are actually installed. > why aren't they > installed? Maybe they are. -- CAPRICORN: The stars say you're an exciting and wonderful person... but you know they're lying. If I were you, I'd lock my doors and windows and never never never never never leave my house again. -- Weird Al
Re: "Repeaters", etc.
On 5/27/24 17:09, Paul M Foster wrote: The local internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as they all do. My idea is to put a device which receives wireless signal from the router/modem, and has an RJ45 jack in it in each room. So each room would have one of these, and the devices in it would be hooked to that device via cat 5e. I hope that's clear. To provide wired internet to a shed which could only get wifi from the house, I installed DD-WRT on a $35 router. Such functionality may be in the stock firmware these days, but probably not on the cheaper devices. Besides being accessible by wired-only devices, that configuration really has few of the advantages enjoyed by wired devices over wifi ones. -- "Hear Me, for I am The Lord. I have seen your browser history, and am wroth before it. Thus I shall strike down from the heavens a mighty blast, and lo, [thou] shalt no longer have access to the naughty pictures." sudo sudo The Book of Support, Chap 404 -- Osiris32 on TFTS
Re: Suspicious "invoice" email?
On 5/17/24 15:28, PMA wrote: > Dear List, > > I received the following today from (Jerry Henley at) Ella White > . > > I suspect fraud here, so have not opened the invoice he/she attached. > > Can you possibly tell me whether the message is legitimate? >> Greetings! customer, It came through this list, so no.
Re: "Repeaters", etc.
On 5/28/24 14:03, rtnetz...@windstream.net wrote: - Original Message - From: "Paul M Foster" I've never see a 3 phase in a house. Quite some years ago my father inquired about getting 3 phase power to his house to power a rather husky lathe. The answers were distributed between "impossible" and "prohibitively expensive". Yeah. Every USan I've heard of who uses 3-phase power in the home gets it from single-phase, either by VFD or rotary or something like that.
Re: "Repeaters", etc. - FRITZ!Box 7490
On 5/28/24 14:04, Paul M Foster wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 03:13:26PM -, Curt wrote: On 2024-05-28, Paul M Foster wrote: but I'd rather not. Since the wifi signal will permeate the whole house, it seemed more reasonable to plant a device in each room which could pick up the wifi, and provide wired internet to that room. I don't see why that would be more reliable than just using the wifi signal without any intermediary. It's only better wired when you're directly connected to the source router, I should think. I don't know that it would be more *reliable*, but I have a number of devices which don't have wifi capability, like my desktop computer. If you have to buy hardware to provide wired access, it might be more expensive than a wifi card. But, there may be reasons wifi is unusable -- antique or very small hardware, or even just personal preference. -- If you need someone to blame Throw a rock in the air You'll hit someone guilty -- U2, _Zooropa_, "Dirty Day"
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
On 5/29/24 10:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. scp / sshd nc, but you don't get authentication _or_ encryption -- You can't get a leopard to change his spots... You can explain it care- fully to the leopard, but it will just sit there lookng at you, knowing that you are made of meat. After a while it will perhaps kill you. Geoffrey Pullum, Language Log (2007-01-04)
Re: tree with dir size
On 5/30/24 18:28, Northwind wrote: Hello, is there a command that shows dir/subdir structure like `tree`, but for each dir has the size in results as well? It looks like "tree --du" should do it, but "tree -d --du -h" says ├── [452K] Documents when du says it's 787M. -- When we've nuked the world to a cinder, the cockroaches picking over the remains will be crawling over the remaining artifacts and wondering what "PC LOAD LETTER" means. -- PC / ASR
Re: alt-~ in xfce
On 6/3/24 10:34, Dan Ritter wrote: Paul Scott wrote: (Debian sid) Can alt-~ in XFCE switch windows of the same application? Settings -> Window Manager -> Keyboard Find "Switch window for same application". Tap "Edit" Type alt ~ Try it out. Ah, by default it's ctrl-alt-tab. -- He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave. -Sir William Drummond
Re: alt-~ in xfce
On 6/3/24 02:50, Paul Scott wrote: (Debian sid) Can alt-~ in XFCE switch windows of the same application? alt-tilde in XFCE does nothing, at least in my installation (XFCE 4.18) -- Driscoll's Observation: The product of the IQs of each member of a tech-support conversation is a constant. -- Michael Driscoll on ASR
Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size
On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air Force named its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine) The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by at least a year. They were founded in 1953, and the law allowing Gallo Thunderbird's creation wasn't passed until the next year. The wine was certainly out by 1957. The Ford Thunderbird _might_ predate the wine, since it came out in 1955. The email client though, no excuse for that one. https://drunkard.com/whats-the-word-thunderbird/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbird_(wine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_Thunderbirds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Thunderbird -- When I were a lad, if grandpa caught us double sigging, it's be straight to bed with no bread and butter after a good thrashing. -- Peter Radcliffe on ASR
Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size
On 6/3/24 15:45, Bret Busby wrote: On 4/6/24 03:25, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air Force named its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine) The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by at least a year. They were founded in 1953, and the law allowing Gallo Thunderbird's creation wasn't passed until the next year. The wine was certainly out by 1957. The Ford Thunderbird _might_ predate the wine, since it came out in 1955. The email client though, no excuse for that one. But, do any of them, predate the real Thunderbirds, with Lady Penelope? You mean this series? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbirds_(TV_series) Looks like it came out in 1964, so the USAF team, wine, and car did. It's probable Gallo Thunderbird was fairly unknown in 1960s UK, so they're off the hook. -- Save the willing first. -- a friend of Traveling-Techie on Reddit
Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?
On 6/3/24 15:06, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 02:18:40PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: eben@cerberus:~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64 linux-image-amd64: Installed: (none) Candidate: 6.1.90-1 What am I doing wrong? You haven't installed the linux-image-amd64 metapackage, which means you will not be offered new kernel versions automatically. This isn't technically "wrong", but it's not (or should not be) a common choice. eben@cerberus:~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64 linux-image-amd64: Installed: 6.1.90-1 Candidate: 6.1.90-1 Excellent, thank you. Also, if you happen to have a bit of a post selected in Tbird when you hit "Reply List", it starts your reply with just that piece. That's a reasonable action, I guess, just not what I expected. -- LEO: Now is not a good time to photocopy your butt and staple it to your boss' face, oh no. Eat a bucket of tuna-flavored pudding and wash it down with a gallon of strawberry Quik. -- Weird Al
Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?
On 6/3/24 09:40, Tom Browder wrote: I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in kernels 5.14 through 6.6. I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64 On 6/3/24 09:40, Tom Browder wrote: I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in kernels 5.14 through 6.6. I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64 Anyone concerned? I have the same kernel, and no updates. eben@cerberus:~$ sudo apt-get update [sudo] password for eben: Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease Hit:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease Hit:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-proposed-updates InRelease Hit:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports InRelease Hit:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease Hit:6 https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org bookworm InRelease Hit:7 https://www.deb-multimedia.org bookworm InRelease Reading package lists... Done eben@cerberus:~$ apt list --upgradable Listing... Done eben@cerberus:~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64 linux-image-amd64: Installed: (none) Candidate: 6.1.90-1 Version table: 6.7.12-1~bpo12+1 100 100 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main amd64 Packages 6.1.90-1 500 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-proposed-updates/main amd64 Packages 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main amd64 Packages 6.1.76-1 500 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 Packages 6.1.67-1 500 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates/main amd64 Packages What am I doing wrong? Also, I'm not sure how to interpret the apt-cache output. -- This message was created using recycled electrons.
Re: lightdm errors
On 6/4/24 12:44, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 09:55:51 -0400 > Eben King wrote: > >> Jun 04 01:57:07 cerberus lightdm[1547009]: xrandr: cannot find mode >> 1920x1200 >> >> and so on. >> >> I have three monitors on the onboard connectors. The left >> (1920x1080) is tall, the other two (1920x1200) are wide. The default >> situation was that the monitors were in the wrong order, and the left >> one was sideways. I wrote a script which used xrandr to fix this in >> XFCE, though I rarely need it. > > I suggest you use arandr to set things as you wish, then export a > script to automate that setup. Then call the script from your session > manager. > > Or, since you are using XFCE, Applications -> Settings -> Display and > set things up there. I did that a while back, when I set the monitors up this way. They were arranged correctly once I logged in. It's just in lightdm that they were wrong. They are correct now (I actually don't know why, unless it's ignoring the hash mark for that line), but I get those errors, which might be related to it not going into suspend overnight. I modified lightdm's config on 20 May (so says my log), but: eben@cerberus:~$ sudo journalctl | grep xrandr | uniq -c --check-chars=6 3015 May 24 21:25:03 cerberus lightdm[2714286]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 13581 May 25 00:41:10 cerberus lightdm[2823087]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 14599 May 26 01:35:52 cerberus lightdm[282746]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 17512 May 27 01:02:53 cerberus lightdm[951063]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 18670 May 28 00:38:05 cerberus lightdm[1676638]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 13689 May 29 00:34:24 cerberus lightdm[2413887]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 14006 May 30 01:52:22 cerberus lightdm[3092520]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 14376 May 31 01:40:14 cerberus lightdm[3751983]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 15296 Jun 01 00:58:00 cerberus lightdm[206925]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 16280 Jun 02 00:00:00 cerberus lightdm[175982]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 13209 Jun 03 02:25:20 cerberus lightdm[909251]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 12630 Jun 04 01:56:54 cerberus lightdm[1546837]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 There are no errors on the 23rd related to xrandr, so I suspect something happened on the 24th. The logged event right before lightdm started acting up was May 24 21:25:01 cerberus dbus-daemon[1362]: [session uid=1000 pid=1362] Activating service name='org.xfce.Xfconf' req> May 24 21:25:01 cerberus dbus-daemon[1362]: [session uid=1000 pid=1362] Successfully activated service 'org.xfce.Xfco> Maybe that dbus update was bad? Or I only updated part of it or something? -- This message was created using recycled electrons.
Re: last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)
On 6/4/24 10:59, songbird wrote: t...@tommiller.us wrote: Hello! last(1) seems to have disappeared following an upgrade from 12.5 to sid. ... i've been using the "more" command provided by the util-linux package. How do you use "more" to do what "last" does? -- Q: What did one photon say to the other photon? A: I'm sick and tired of your interference. -- thebigmike1983 on Fark
Re: "Repeaters", etc. - FRITZ!Box 7490
On 5/28/24 11:13, Curt wrote: On 2024-05-28, Paul M Foster wrote: but I'd rather not. Since the wifi signal will permeate the whole house, it seemed more reasonable to plant a device in each room which could pick up the wifi, and provide wired internet to that room. I don't see why that would be more reliable than just using the wifi signal without any intermediary. It's only better wired when you're directly connected to the source router, I should think. That situation might cover many of the machines in a house, I would think. Certainly a room. -- And the men who hold high places / Must be the ones who start To mold a new reality / Closer to the heart Rush, "Closer to the Heart", 1977
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
On 5/30/24 22:46, Carter Zhang wrote: Dear Dan, Thanks a lot for your reply but I am not clear how to use SFTP, SCP or NFS on Android. Could you please show me how? Any help will be appreciated. (lines wrapped) SFTP / SCP: https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/pushpitha/50334853/1538653/1538653_800.jpg NFS: it's not simple. -- Answer: two spoonfuls in my cup, please. Question: how much should I use? (why top-posting is bad) http://www.fscked.co.uk/writing/top-posting-cuss.html
Re: Audio broken by kernel update
On 5/31/24 10:04, Evgeny Kapun wrote: After I upgraded my system, my integrated sound card (Intel HDA) stopped working properly. The sound plays, but it is severely distorted. If I boot the same system with an older kernel, it works. Currently, I am using kernel 6.6.13+bpo-amd64, because newer versions that I tried don't work (in particular, 6.8.11-amd64 doesn't work). What can I do to fix it (without having to run an outdated kernel), or to investigate it further? Is the distortion related to disk or USB or processor or memory or keyboard or mouse or video activity, or constant or seemingly random? How about audio volume (pre or post "master" control) or a particular input on the mixer? -- The difference between theory and practice is that in theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. -- quoted by Kromaatikse on Reddit
Re: tree with dir size
On 5/30/24 18:54, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 06:51:30PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: It looks like "tree --du" should do it, but "tree -d --du -h" says ├── [452K] Documents when du says it's 787M. Well, that sounds like one of the numbers includes subdirectories and the other only includes files in the immediate directory. From du(1): --du For each directory report its size as the accumulation of sizes of all its files and sub-directories (and their files, and so on). The total amount of used space is also given in the final report (like the 'du -c' command.) This option requires tree to read the entire directory tree before emitting it, see BUGS AND NOTES below. Implies -s. OK, now for "du -c". From du(1): -c, --total produce a grand total Well, that doesn't help much. The question is: which one do you want? I'd like the size of the entire tree, and I think that's what OP wants too. I think "du -h -S -s Documents/" gives just the files in Documents, and not its subdirectories, and it gives 269M. "ls -ldh Documents/" says the directory itsely takes up 36k, so I'm not sure where "tree" got that number.
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
On 5/30/24 20:08, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection. You mean two different machines using sshfs to the same server? I don't see why it would. It's vanilla SSH to the outside world and ssh works just fine when multiple users log in. -- Perhaps this final act was meant / to clinch a lifetime's argument That nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could Fr all thse born bneath an angry star / Lest we frget hw fragile we are -- Sting, "Fragile" from _... Nothing Like the Sun_
Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" (was: Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501))
On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email accordingly so that this can be clearly seen. For example: New question [WAS Old topic] Are square brackets intentional here? E.g. thunderbird strips "(was:" subject part from response subject. This is true. I (on Thunderbird 115) had to restore the subject line after Thunderbird modified it. Do you know of a plugin or weird setting to make it stop doing that? Web searches were fruitless. -- A mob with torches and pitchforks approaches the castle. "Sire, the peasants are revolting!" "Yeah, disgusting, aren't they?"
Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size
On 6/2/24 14:03, Chris M wrote: I noticed that in SeaMonkey Mail's latest version 2.53.18.2 that the text is small in SOME emails, and in some emails its fine. And I can't figure out what to change to make the text a little bigger without having to use CTRL ++ on those certain emails. Any ideas on how? Yeah, I usually have to hit ^+ 4-5 times to make the text a reasonable size. I don't know why. -- My sympathy for your plight is directly proportional to your ability to accept reality. -- 2020-07-27
Re: system won't suspend automatically
On 6/10/24 16:51, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 10 Jun 2024 at 15:05:23 (-0400), Eben King wrote: >> Hi, I have a Debian 12 (Bookworm?) installation with XFCE as my DE. I have >> three monitors, the left one is rotated CW so it's tall, and because lightdm >> can't seem to get that or the monitor positions correct I wrote a script >> that calls xrandr to set things up. >> >> I thought the errors from the monitor setup script (before I fixed it) were >> what was keeping the system from suspending. But now I've fixed the errors >> and it still doesn't suspend over night. Suspend works just fine when I go >> to log out and hit the suspend button. I don't see any obvious errors in >> journalctl. Where can I go to debug suspend? Thanks. > > Does xset -q show you anything like below? > >$ xset -q >Keyboard Control:... eben@cerberus:~$ xset -q Keyboard Control: auto repeat: onkey click percent: 0LED mask: 2002 XKB indicators: 00: Caps Lock: off01: Num Lock:on 02: Scroll Lock: off 03: Compose: off04: Kana:off05: Sleep: off 06: Suspend: off07: Mute:off08: Misc:off 09: Mail:off10: Charging:off11: Shift Lock: off 12: Group 2: off13: Mouse Keys: on auto repeat delay: 500repeat rate: 20 auto repeating keys: 00ffdbbf fadfffefffed 9fff fff7 bell percent: 50bell pitch: 400bell duration: 100 Pointer Control: acceleration: 2/1threshold: 4 Screen Saver: prefer blanking: yesallow exposures: yes timeout: 0cycle: 600 Colors: default colormap: 0x20BlackPixel: 0x0WhitePixel: 0xff Font Path: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 1200Suspend: 0Off: 1800 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On Like that, yes. What am I looking for? The DPMS stuff is just for monitors, correct? >> Thou shalt keep thine tongue prosperous, and thy mind numb. -Lusers 4:9 > > Thy tongue. This is correct. I'll change it, and note the change. Dang, it's too easy to just do ^R and not hit "reply list". Maybe there's a key command. I'll look into that. -- "The reason that the American Army does so well, is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis." -Nazi German Officer
Re: system won't suspend automatically
On 6/10/24 21:11, Ralph Katz wrote: On 6/10/24 13:05, Eben King wrote: Hi, I have a Debian 12 (Bookworm?) installation with XFCE as my DE. [...] and it still doesn't suspend over night. Suspend works just fine when I go to log out and hit the suspend button. I don't see any obvious errors in journalctl. Where can I go to debug suspend? Thanks. I also have bookworm, XFCE and a suspend issue. Dell laptop suspends on lid close, but with an attached monitor, it does not suspend on lid close. As a workaround, I use a keyboard shortcut to suspend. Closing then opening the lid wakes it up. I'm eager to see how you resolve this. If you file a bug, please post the number so I can add my case. Well, that is not encouraging. Does anyone know how to get the monitor state programmatically? I'll write my own script based on that. DFMS works. I mean if the computer won't do it for you, roll your own. -- The best answer when anybody asks you if you're any good with explosives is to hold up two open hands and simply say "Ten". -- Anthony DeBoer on ASR
Re: system won't suspend automatically
On 6/11/24 12:27, Max Nikulin wrote: On 11/06/2024 21:44, e...@gmx.us wrote: Does anyone know how to get the monitor state programmatically? ddccontrol Thanks. However I am lost if you need to put your monitor to standby state (or to turn it off) or you expect suspend to RAM after some period of inactivity or when lid is closed. In the latter case check power and display settings in your DE configuration. I'll probably watch ddcontrol, and if the monitors go into and stay there for 30m or an hour, suspend. Maybe even have it user-configurable if I feel frisky. Maybe even do what it's _supposed_ to do, but you gotta pay extra for that.
Re: system won't suspend automatically
On 6/11/24 12:37, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 10:44:12 -0400 e...@gmx.us wrote: Well, that is not encouraging. Does anyone know how to get the monitor state programmatically? I'll write my own script based on that. DFMS works. I mean if the computer won't do it for you, roll your own. Install arandr, use it to set things up the way you want them. Then have it emit a suitable script. OK, no problem. The script I wrote uses xrandr to do that exact thing. Call that from XFCE's session manager on startup. How exactly do I do that, and why would it re-enable suspension? -- "Cheating is the gift man gives himself." - Mr. Burns, The Simpsons.
Uninstalling a package and its entourage
Hey. Occasionally I'll install a package and it brings some other dependencies with it. Fine. Then if I decide it doesn't work for me and want to uninstall it, I have to go to the installation history, see what was installed with it, and for each one find it and flag it for removal. You can see how for packages with lots of dependencies this is kind of a pain. Is there an easier way to uninstall a package and everything it brought in at one swell foop? Thanks. -- "The Web brings people together because no matter what kind of a twisted sexual mutant you happen to be, you've got millions of pals out there. Type in 'Find people that have sex with goats that are on fire' and the computer will say, 'Specify type of goat.'" -- Rich Jeni
lightdm errors
If this is off topic, let me know a better forum please. Overnight, I'm getting errors every 2s from lightdm. Jun 04 01:57:01 cerberus lightdm[1546921]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 Jun 04 01:57:03 cerberus lightdm[1546948]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 Jun 04 01:57:05 cerberus lightdm[1546982]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 Jun 04 01:57:07 cerberus lightdm[1547009]: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1200 and so on. I have three monitors on the onboard connectors. The left (1920x1080) is tall, the other two (1920x1200) are wide. The default situation was that the monitors were in the wrong order, and the left one was sideways. I wrote a script which used xrandr to fix this in XFCE, though I rarely need it. Anyhow I don't know where that error is coming from. There's a line eben@cerberus:/etc/lightdm$ grep fixm * lightdm.conf:# greeter-setup-script = /export/bin/fixmonitors but as you see it's commented out. And the string "1920x1200" appears nowhere in the config files: eben@cerberus:/etc/lightdm$ grep 1920 * eben@cerberus:/etc/lightdm$ Does anyone know how to increase logging in lightdm so I can see why it's complaining? Thanks. -- The United States of America: Screwing with the English Language for over 200 years. -- Mike Sphar on ASR
system won't suspend automatically
Hi, I have a Debian 12 (Bookworm?) installation with XFCE as my DE. I have three monitors, the left one is rotated CW so it's tall, and because lightdm can't seem to get that or the monitor positions correct I wrote a script that calls xrandr to set things up. I thought the errors from the monitor setup script (before I fixed it) were what was keeping the system from suspending. But now I've fixed the errors and it still doesn't suspend over night. Suspend works just fine when I go to log out and hit the suspend button. I don't see any obvious errors in journalctl. Where can I go to debug suspend? Thanks. -- Thou shalt keep thine tongue prosperous, and thy mind numb. -Lusers 4:9 And if thy head doth leave thine own arse, thou shalt shove it back in. For in such a way does it keep thy minimal knowledge from leaving thine own head. -- Lusers 4:10-11 (ItsDragoniteBitches and mephron on Reddit)
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