Re: Minimum standard of decency, was: Amendment: GFDL is compatible with DFSG

2006-01-31 Thread Roger Leigh
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Roger Leigh
 I think that this behaviour, as well as that on other lists in the
 recent past, is making it increasingly necessary that we introduce
 some way of enforcing a minimum standard of decency on our lists. [...]

 You pillory[1] a man over his -private beliefs about death[2]
 to the point where he recoils from the project[3],

Not at all.  His beliefs are nothing to do with it, and never have
been.  I'm not sure where you got that from.

 don't answer off-list mail about it and then have the nerve to
 lecture about a minimum standard of decency? Breathtaking.

You sent me a mail during a rather long flamewar.  While I was
grateful to receive it, I haven't yet replied to it, nor to any other
public or private mail on that subject, for the past two weeks.  I
thought it would be better to let the flamewar die down.  Everything
that people wanted to say has already been said many times over, so I
didn't think there anything more constructive to be gained from
perpetuating it.

 Nevertheless, Craig Sanders's colourful rants break the lists code
 of conduct far more clearly than posting satire to -devel-announce.
 Where are the winged angels of vengence? But then, the d-d-a ban
 didn't look like it was about enforcing the list codes anyway.

It was about enforcing the list codes.  I'll ask the listmasters to
look at this as well.


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Re: Minimum standard of decency, was: Amendment: GFDL is compatible with DFSG

2006-01-31 Thread MJ Ray
Adeodato Simó
 Are you deliberately lying here, to make your point prettier, or are
 you ciberately stating that Andrew lied himself in [3]?

Neither.

Thanks,
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Minimum standard of decency, was: Amendment: GFDL is compatible with DFSG

2006-01-30 Thread MJ Ray
Roger Leigh
 I think that this behaviour, as well as that on other lists in the
 recent past, is making it increasingly necessary that we introduce
 some way of enforcing a minimum standard of decency on our lists. [...]

You pillory[1] a man over his -private beliefs about death[2]
to the point where he recoils from the project[3], don't answer
off-list mail about it and then have the nerve to lecture about
a minimum standard of decency? Breathtaking.

1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00954.html
2. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00968.html
3. http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/01/msg00073.html

Nevertheless, Craig Sanders's colourful rants break the lists code
of conduct far more clearly than posting satire to -devel-announce.
Where are the winged angels of vengence? But then, the d-d-a ban
didn't look like it was about enforcing the list codes anyway.

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Re: Minimum standard of decency, was: Amendment: GFDL is compatible with DFSG

2006-01-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Nevertheless, Craig Sanders's colourful rants break the lists code
 of conduct far more clearly than posting satire to -devel-announce.
 Where are the winged angels of vengence? But then, the d-d-a ban
 didn't look like it was about enforcing the list codes anyway.

I have been upset with Craig for years, but the project decided that
his colorful rants are acceptible conduct.


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Re: Minimum standard of decency, was: Amendment: GFDL is compatible with DFSG

2006-01-30 Thread Adeodato Simó
* MJ Ray [Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:25:48 +]:

 to the point where he recoils from the project[3], don't answer

  Are you deliberately lying here, to make your point prettier, or are
  you ciberately stating that Andrew lied himself in [3]?

 3. http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/01/msg00073.html

  So long,

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