OT: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What is wrong with this picture?

2002-08-29 Thread Aaron Roydhouse

Kami, you really need to use Microsoft software if you want built-in support for 
one-off errors :-P

Aaron.

- Original Message - 
From: Kami Razvan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:52 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] What is wrong with this picture?


 Hi..
 Scott I think it is a bug in Declude.
 
 It does not recognize FeeEmail.txt as FreeEmail.txt  - eventhough I
 meant it that way.
 
 May be the next version :)
 
 Nobody said knowing how to spell is a requirement to run Declude.
 
 Kami
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What is wrong with this picture?
 
 
 
 FREEEMAILS fromfile 
 D:\IMail\Declude\FreeEmails.txtx  5 0
 
 08/28/2002 14:45:11 Q1a3600180158ae6c Could not load fromfile 
 D:\IMail\Declude\FreeEmails.txt.
 
 I *hate* to ask a question like this, but I've got to -- does the 
 D:\IMail\Declude\FreeEmails.txt file exist?  If you type dir 
 D:\IMail\Declude\FreeEmails.txt from a command prompt, does it show up,
 or 
 do you see File Not Found?
 
 If that doesn't explain it, can you try typing type 
 D:\IMail\Declude\FreeEmails.txt from a command prompt (to make sure
 that 
 the file isn't locked in a way that it can't be read)?
  -Scott
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases mail forwarding

2002-08-29 Thread Aaron Roydhouse

Yep, I was careful about that. Since I put different text into the warning for the 
CATCHALLEMAIL test in each $default$.junkmail I was able to reliably tell which 
configuration was being used for each email.

I was very confused up until then, so using the CATCHALLEMAIL test was very handy and 
a good general debugging idea.

Aaron.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding


 
 However if have an alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you define it as an email 
 address at the same domain, e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] then the 
 $default$.junkmail for *primary IMail domain* will be used (the default 
 $default$.junkmail if you will).
 
 What is the primary name for some.domain?  If it is mail.some.domain 
 (with some.domain as a domain alias), then the mail.some.domain file 
 would be used (\IMail\Declude\mail.some.domain\$default$.JunkMail).
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases mail forwarding

2002-08-29 Thread R. Scott Perry


Yep, I was careful about that. Since I put different text into the warning 
for the CATCHALLEMAIL test in each $default$.junkmail I was able to 
reliably tell which configuration was being used for each email.

I was very confused up until then, so using the CATCHALLEMAIL test was 
very handy and a good general debugging idea.

In that case, I would suggest using the debug mode, which should help clear 
this up.  To use the debug mode, you can change the LOGLEVEL LOW line in 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg to LOGLEVEL DEBUG.  Then, send an E-mail 
through like you were before, and then switch back to LOGLEVEL LOW.  You 
can then E-mail me the \IMail\spool\dec.log file (as an attachment), 
and I can take a look at it to see what is happening.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases mail forwarding

2002-08-29 Thread Bill B .

Here is where I was getting confused...

If you use the MAILBOX action, for example:
CATCHALLMAILS   MAILBOX spam

...when you use this action on an emaill address that has Mail Forwarding turned on, 
it will still forward the message even though Declude attempts to drop it into the 
sub-mailbox.  I guess that's an IMail thing.

Turning on declude debugging shows that it does in fact attempt to put it into the 
sub-mailbox...

08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Using [incoming] CFG file 
d:\imail\Declude\excedentmail.com\wboebel.junkmail.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 ...X.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Test #27 [CATCHALLMAILS weight=0] triggered; 
action = 10 []
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Msg failed CATCHALLMAILS ().
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Moving spam to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s 
mailbox spam.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip( 1, [EMAIL PROTECTED], spam);
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Loading queuefile
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Changing mailbox to spam. Altering 
queuefile.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Subject: test 3
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Looping...
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Done Looping
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip( 5, (null), (null));
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Saving queuefile
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 X-Note: Sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 
f7.law4.hotmail.com ([216.33.149.7]).
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterMessage
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Set process priority back to 32.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Adding warning
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Final action=0.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Unlocked d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Passing to SMTP3: d:\imail\smtp32.exe 
d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Total Time: 312ms


-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry
Sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:17:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding



Yep, I was careful about that. Since I put different text into the warning 
for the CATCHALLEMAIL test in each $default$.junkmail I was able to 
reliably tell which configuration was being used for each email.

I was very confused up until then, so using the CATCHALLEMAIL test was 
very handy and a good general debugging idea.

In that case, I would suggest using the debug mode, which should help clear 
this up.  To use the debug mode, you can change the LOGLEVEL LOW line in 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg to LOGLEVEL DEBUG.  Then, send an E-mail 
through like you were before, and then switch back to LOGLEVEL LOW.  You 
can then E-mail me the \IMail\spool\dec.log file (as an attachment), 
and I can take a look at it to see what is happening.
 -Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Roger Heath

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude
at this time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned
on for a select domain or e-mail account... for example,

if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then

Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists
then  pass  the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return
e-mail as rejected..

How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Roger Heath

Reply to: Kami Razvan
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude? on Thursday 9:48:16 AM

Personally we'd like to have this as an add-on and not a standard
feature.  So  we'd  like only administrator control over this. It
could  be  easily  misunderstood by users as well. The ability to
set  a  whole domain or individual users, like the Pro version of
Declude is what we really need.

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K Hi;
K The idea is a good one but I think it truly belongs at the IMail level.
K This way, using the web manager, every user can decide what level of
K mail they want to accept.

K It is sort of like what the JunkMail setting is with Hotmail.  Strict,
K allowing only those in the address book to send, or Loose so anyone can
K send.

K If Declude adds this then it is up to the Admin to add this for every
K user upon request.  This is a lot of work!

K Just a thought.

K Kami

K -Original Message-
K From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
K Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:32 AM
K To: R. Scott Perry
K Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


K I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address 
R book?

K In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at
K this time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

K Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned on for
K a select domain or e-mail account... for example,

K if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
K [EMAIL PROTECTED] then

K Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists then
K pass  the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return e-mail as
K rejected..

K How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

K --
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K [EMAIL PROTECTED]
K www.rleeheath.com


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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Roger Heath

Reply to: John Tolmachoff
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude? on Thursday 9:53:27 AM

Not to be sarcastic, but how? grin

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J Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that
J is configurable by the user?

J John Tolmachoff
J IT Manager, Network Engineer
J RelianceSoft, Inc.
J Fullerton, CA  92835
J www.reliancesoft.com


J -Original Message-
J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
J Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
J To: R. Scott Perry
J Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

J I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
J book?

J In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude
J at this time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

J Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned
J on for a select domain or e-mail account... for example,

J if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
J [EMAIL PROTECTED] then

J Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists
J then  pass  the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return
J e-mail as rejected..

J How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

J --
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread R. Scott Perry


Unless, of course, Declude were to add a web interface to provide user
self-administration...

This is something we would love to do, but would be difficult for a number 
of reasons.  The biggest problem is that IMail doesn't have an interface to 
web messaging.  It would be easy for them to do, so there is hope -- but, I 
don't know if they will see the demand for it.  If they do add one (and it 
isn't as complex as new Microsoft technologies, which it doesn't need to 
be), we would certainly add support for it.

Assuming that no interface for web messaging occurs, there are many other 
problems:

[1] We would need to write and maintain our own webserver,
[2] It would require opening yet another port on firewalls,
[3] It would either require minimal security, or would require a huge 
amount of work authenticating users against multiple data sources or the 
log files

Ideally, Ipswitch will add support for third-party addons to web 
messaging.  It could be done fairly easily -- they could have a URL in the 
format http://mail.example.com/X.../addons/filename?data=data...;.  If 
they see the /addons/, they then parse out filename and run 
\IMail\addons\filename.exe (placed in a separate directory for security 
reasons), with the username and data=data as the parameters passed to 
it.  It should be possible in about 10-20 lines of code.  The data=data 
bit would allow data from forms to be sent to the program.

If people can come up with other uses for that (besides just for managing 
Declude), it might be possible to persuade Ipswitch to add the web 
messaging interface.  One thought would be a tool users could use that 
would search the log file for E-mails that they had sent/received that day.

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[Declude.JunkMail] ISP Users and Sample JunkMail config files

2002-08-29 Thread Brian Watters

Hello all,

We would like to see some sample real world config files for ISP's, If
others out there are using configs that work for there environments then
there is little reason for the rest of us to re-invent the wheel .. Come
on folks share!


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Re[3]: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Roger Heath

Reply to: R. Scott Perry
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude? on Thursday 10:19:03 AM

The  only  problem  I see with this is whitelisting... perhaps it
should  even  disregard  the  whitelist  too? Looks like a bounce
would  be  preferable on a feature like this. It would be a great
feature.  If a user wants to receive e-mails from a select source
he  or she could just log into web mail and enter the address. It
would  be  nice  if  they  could  make  a  'CONTAINS' rule by say
entering   an   address   like   [EMAIL PROTECTED],   Then   if
internet.com was in the HEADERS, it would pass the mail..

Others  have  suggested  making whitelists into separate lists so
you  can  per user or per domain them. Perhaps if you do this all
these things can be 'matched up'?

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Personally we'd like to have this as an add-on and not a standard
feature.  So  we'd  like only administrator control over this. It
could  be  easily  misunderstood by users as well. The ability to
set  a  whole domain or individual users, like the Pro version of
Declude is what we really need.

R If something like this does get added, it would likely best fit into 
R Declude JunkMail as a test and an action (such as a test NOTINADDRESSBOOK 
R with an action of BOUNCE or HOLD).  That way, it could be applied 
R per-domain or per-user, and end users wouldn't have any direct control over it.
R-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases mail forwarding

2002-08-29 Thread Bill B .

Scott or whomever,

Can you think of any way based on this, to force IMail to retain the message in the 
sub-mailbox instead of forwarding it?  I don't see a way, but I figured I'd ask.

Thanks


-Original Message-
From: Bill B .
Sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 8:59:39 EDT
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding


Here is where I was getting confused...

If you use the MAILBOX action, for example:
CATCHALLMAILS   MAILBOX spam

...when you use this action on an emaill address that has Mail Forwarding turned on, 
it will still forward the message even though Declude attempts to drop it into the 
sub-mailbox.  I guess that's an IMail thing.

Turning on declude debugging shows that it does in fact attempt to put it into the 
sub-mailbox...

08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Using [incoming] CFG file 
d:\imail\Declude\excedentmail.com\wboebel.junkmail.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 ...X.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Test #27 [CATCHALLMAILS weight=0] triggered; 
action = 10 []
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Msg failed CATCHALLMAILS ().
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Moving spam to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s 
mailbox spam.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip( 1, [EMAIL PROTECTED], spam);
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Loading queuefile
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Changing mailbox to spam. Altering 
queuefile.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Subject: test 3
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Looping...
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Done Looping
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip( 5, (null), (null));
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Saving queuefile
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 X-Note: Sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 
f7.law4.hotmail.com ([216.33.149.7]).
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterMessage
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Set process priority back to 32.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Adding warning
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Final action=0.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Unlocked d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Passing to SMTP3: d:\imail\smtp32.exe 
d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Total Time: 312ms


-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry
Sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:17:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding



Yep, I was careful about that. Since I put different text into the warning 
for the CATCHALLEMAIL test in each $default$.junkmail I was able to 
reliably tell which configuration was being used for each email.

I was very confused up until then, so using the CATCHALLEMAIL test was 
very handy and a good general debugging idea.

In that case, I would suggest using the debug mode, which should help clear 
this up.  To use the debug mode, you can change the LOGLEVEL LOW line in 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg to LOGLEVEL DEBUG.  Then, send an E-mail 
through like you were before, and then switch back to LOGLEVEL LOW.  You 
can then E-mail me the \IMail\spool\dec.log file (as an attachment), 
and I can take a look at it to see what is happening.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Yes, this is how I already accomplished this for my users.
I have a cold fusion interface which verified login/password, then manages
their rules.ima
Anyone they want to allow it writes at the top of the rules.ima...

F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN

Any junk-mail they want to block it sends to SPAM folder

H~X-RBL-WARNING:SPAM

The problem with authorization is that IMAIL passwords are stored in
registry, so you have to make your script verify their password via POP3, or
use the IMAIL/REG password Decryption   routine that I wrote.

Could easily be replicated in .asp as well



-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that is
configurable by the user?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at this
time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned on for a
select domain or e-mail account... for example,

if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then

Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists then  pass
the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return e-mail as rejected..

How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Oh, for an address book only
You must also add one last entry at the bottom of rules.ima

H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL

That will force anything not matched in the above of rules.ima to be deleted

Ex:
--rules.ima--
H~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
F~declude.com:main
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL
--/rules.ima--

Anything that does not match the first 3 lines will be deleted



-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:38 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Yes, this is how I already accomplished this for my users.
I have a cold fusion interface which verified login/password, then manages
their rules.ima Anyone they want to allow it writes at the top of the
rules.ima...

F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN

Any junk-mail they want to block it sends to SPAM folder

H~X-RBL-WARNING:SPAM

The problem with authorization is that IMAIL passwords are stored in
registry, so you have to make your script verify their password via POP3, or
use the IMAIL/REG password Decryption   routine that I wrote.

Could easily be replicated in .asp as well



-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that is
configurable by the user?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at this
time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned on for a
select domain or e-mail account... for example,

if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then

Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists then  pass
the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return e-mail as rejected..

How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Excuse the typo everyone, I meant to put a not (!)  in that long string

H!~THIS...

-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:41 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Oh, for an address book only
You must also add one last entry at the bottom of rules.ima

H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL

That will force anything not matched in the above of rules.ima to be deleted

Ex:
--rules.ima--
H~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
F~declude.com:main
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL
--/rules.ima--

Anything that does not match the first 3 lines will be deleted



-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:38 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Yes, this is how I already accomplished this for my users.
I have a cold fusion interface which verified login/password, then manages
their rules.ima Anyone they want to allow it writes at the top of the
rules.ima...

F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN

Any junk-mail they want to block it sends to SPAM folder

H~X-RBL-WARNING:SPAM

The problem with authorization is that IMAIL passwords are stored in
registry, so you have to make your script verify their password via POP3, or
use the IMAIL/REG password Decryption   routine that I wrote.

Could easily be replicated in .asp as well



-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that is
configurable by the user?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at this
time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned on for a
select domain or e-mail account... for example,

if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then

Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists then  pass
the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return e-mail as rejected..

How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Ok, I will stop posting on this thread after this.

For a working-example on how I have achieved this with imail and cold fusion
I have setup a test account.

Login = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pass  = declude

Manager: http://users.bsc.net/
WebMail: http://mail.bsc.net/

From the manager you can *import* an Outlook Express address book,
Or build your own, you can adjust the filter levels, and block individual
users.

These features just manage the rules.ima, which you can watch by going to
the web-mail
Interface and clicking Change Processing Rules

Anyone on this list is welcome to upload dummy address book's and play with
this account I just wanted to demonstrate to others how I have creatively
achieved this with IMAIL 6 / Cold Fusion.

* note: I built this interface before I became aware of the power of WEIGHT,
changing the filter-definitions to work with weights instead of individual
headers is on my to-do list, so if anyone actually does look at this please
don't flame me on how I could improve that. 
I am already aware :)





-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:44 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Excuse the typo everyone, I meant to put a not (!)  in that long string

H!~THIS...

-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:41 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Oh, for an address book only
You must also add one last entry at the bottom of rules.ima

H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL

That will force anything not matched in the above of rules.ima to be deleted

Ex:
--rules.ima--
H~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
F~declude.com:main
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL
--/rules.ima--

Anything that does not match the first 3 lines will be deleted



-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:38 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Yes, this is how I already accomplished this for my users.
I have a cold fusion interface which verified login/password, then manages
their rules.ima Anyone they want to allow it writes at the top of the
rules.ima...

F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN

Any junk-mail they want to block it sends to SPAM folder

H~X-RBL-WARNING:SPAM

The problem with authorization is that IMAIL passwords are stored in
registry, so you have to make your script verify their password via POP3, or
use the IMAIL/REG password Decryption   routine that I wrote.

Could easily be replicated in .asp as well



-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that is
configurable by the user?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at this
time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned on for a
select domain or e-mail account... for example,

if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then

Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists then  pass
the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return e-mail as rejected..

How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.rleeheath.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Charles Frolick

I do have one question, how do you manage the size of the spam folder when
they use that option?  I would love to use the MAILBOX action, but have no
way of cleaning out the spam folder without affecting the other folders,
including inbox, as well. We currently do not use aging as a restriction for
those who use webmail exclusively, we opted for size limits instead.

Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Baker |
Netsmith Inc
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:09 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Ok, I will stop posting on this thread after this.

For a working-example on how I have achieved this with imail and cold fusion
I have setup a test account.

Login = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pass  = declude

Manager: http://users.bsc.net/
WebMail: http://mail.bsc.net/

From the manager you can *import* an Outlook Express address book,
Or build your own, you can adjust the filter levels, and block individual
users.

These features just manage the rules.ima, which you can watch by going to
the web-mail
Interface and clicking Change Processing Rules

Anyone on this list is welcome to upload dummy address book's and play with
this account I just wanted to demonstrate to others how I have creatively
achieved this with IMAIL 6 / Cold Fusion.

* note: I built this interface before I became aware of the power of WEIGHT,
changing the filter-definitions to work with weights instead of individual
headers is on my to-do list, so if anyone actually does look at this please
don't flame me on how I could improve that.
I am already aware :)





-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:44 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Excuse the typo everyone, I meant to put a not (!)  in that long string

H!~THIS...

-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:41 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Oh, for an address book only
You must also add one last entry at the bottom of rules.ima

H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL

That will force anything not matched in the above of rules.ima to be deleted

Ex:
--rules.ima--
H~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
F~declude.com:main
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL
--/rules.ima--

Anything that does not match the first 3 lines will be deleted



-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:38 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Yes, this is how I already accomplished this for my users.
I have a cold fusion interface which verified login/password, then manages
their rules.ima Anyone they want to allow it writes at the top of the
rules.ima...

F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN

Any junk-mail they want to block it sends to SPAM folder

H~X-RBL-WARNING:SPAM

The problem with authorization is that IMAIL passwords are stored in
registry, so you have to make your script verify their password via POP3, or
use the IMAIL/REG password Decryption   routine that I wrote.

Could easily be replicated in .asp as well



-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that is
configurable by the user?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at this
time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned on for a
select domain or e-mail account... for example,

if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then

Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists then  pass
the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return e-mail as rejected..

How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.rleeheath.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases mail forwarding

2002-08-29 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Easy, instead of mail forwarding use auto-responders but, don't have a
response
Which the web-messaging won't let you SETUP, but you can view

The actual way is via the filenames in the user folder
mail forwarding creates a file called
D:\imail\domain.com\users\Forward.ima 
(which contains the destiation address)

Instead, use PER MAILBOX forwarding
D:\imail\domain.com\users\main.fwd

Unless there is a 'spam.fwd' the SPAM mailbox will be retained, while all
'main' mail will be forwarded. (rename forward.ima to main.fwd)

-Tom

-Original Message-
From: Bill B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding


Scott or whomever,

Can you think of any way based on this, to force IMail to retain the message
in the sub-mailbox instead of forwarding it?  I don't see a way, but I
figured I'd ask.

Thanks


-Original Message-
From: Bill B .
Sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 8:59:39 EDT
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding


Here is where I was getting confused...

If you use the MAILBOX action, for example:
CATCHALLMAILS   MAILBOX spam

...when you use this action on an emaill address that has Mail Forwarding
turned on, it will still forward the message even though Declude attempts to
drop it into the sub-mailbox.  I guess that's an IMail thing.

Turning on declude debugging shows that it does in fact attempt to put it
into the sub-mailbox...

08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Using [incoming] CFG file
d:\imail\Declude\excedentmail.com\wboebel.junkmail.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 ...X.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Test #27 [CATCHALLMAILS weight=0]
triggered; action = 10 [] 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Msg failed
CATCHALLMAILS (). 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Moving spam to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s mailbox spam. 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip( 1, [EMAIL PROTECTED], spam); 08/29/2002
08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Loading queuefile 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Changing mailbox to spam. Altering queuefile.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Subject: test 3 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Looping...
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Done Looping
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip( 5, (null), (null));
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Saving queuefile
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 X-Note: Sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- f7.law4.hotmail.com ([216.33.149.7]). 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 AlterMessage 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Set
process priority back to 32. 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Adding
warning 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Final action=0. 08/29/2002
08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Unlocked
d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Passing to SMTP3: d:\imail\smtp32.exe
d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Total Time: 312ms


-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry
Sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:17:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding



Yep, I was careful about that. Since I put different text into the 
warning
for the CATCHALLEMAIL test in each $default$.junkmail I was able to 
reliably tell which configuration was being used for each email.

I was very confused up until then, so using the CATCHALLEMAIL test was
very handy and a good general debugging idea.

In that case, I would suggest using the debug mode, which should help clear 
this up.  To use the debug mode, you can change the LOGLEVEL LOW line in 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg to LOGLEVEL DEBUG.  Then, send an E-mail 
through like you were before, and then switch back to LOGLEVEL LOW.  You 
can then E-mail me the \IMail\spool\dec.log file (as an attachment), 
and I can take a look at it to see what is happening.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases mail forwarding

2002-08-29 Thread Bill B .

awesome, that worked.  Thanks Tom.

Bill


-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:42:31 -0500
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding


Easy, instead of mail forwarding use auto-responders but, don't have a
response
Which the web-messaging won't let you SETUP, but you can view

The actual way is via the filenames in the user folder
mail forwarding creates a file called
D:\imail\domain.com\users\Forward.ima 
(which contains the destiation address)

Instead, use PER MAILBOX forwarding
D:\imail\domain.com\users\main.fwd

Unless there is a 'spam.fwd' the SPAM mailbox will be retained, while all
'main' mail will be forwarded. (rename forward.ima to main.fwd)

-Tom

-Original Message-
From: Bill B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding


Scott or whomever,

Can you think of any way based on this, to force IMail to retain the message
in the sub-mailbox instead of forwarding it?  I don't see a way, but I
figured I'd ask.

Thanks


-Original Message-
From: Bill B .
Sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 8:59:39 EDT
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding


Here is where I was getting confused...

If you use the MAILBOX action, for example:
CATCHALLMAILS   MAILBOX spam

...when you use this action on an emaill address that has Mail Forwarding
turned on, it will still forward the message even though Declude attempts to
drop it into the sub-mailbox.  I guess that's an IMail thing.

Turning on declude debugging shows that it does in fact attempt to put it
into the sub-mailbox...

08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Using [incoming] CFG file
d:\imail\Declude\excedentmail.com\wboebel.junkmail.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 ...X.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Test #27 [CATCHALLMAILS weight=0]
triggered; action = 10 [] 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Msg failed
CATCHALLMAILS (). 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Moving spam to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s mailbox spam. 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip( 1, [EMAIL PROTECTED], spam); 08/29/2002
08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Loading queuefile 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Changing mailbox to spam. Altering queuefile.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Subject: test 3 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Looping...
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Done Looping
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip( 5, (null), (null));
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Saving queuefile
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 X-Note: Sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- f7.law4.hotmail.com ([216.33.149.7]). 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 AlterMessage 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Set
process priority back to 32. 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Adding
warning 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Final action=0. 08/29/2002
08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Unlocked
d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Passing to SMTP3: d:\imail\smtp32.exe
d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Total Time: 312ms


-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry
Sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:17:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding



Yep, I was careful about that. Since I put different text into the 
warning
for the CATCHALLEMAIL test in each $default$.junkmail I was able to 
reliably tell which configuration was being used for each email.

I was very confused up until then, so using the CATCHALLEMAIL test was
very handy and a good general debugging idea.

In that case, I would suggest using the debug mode, which should help clear 
this up.  To use the debug mode, you can change the LOGLEVEL LOW line in 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg to LOGLEVEL DEBUG.  Then, send an E-mail 
through like you were before, and then switch back to LOGLEVEL LOW.  You 
can then E-mail me the \IMail\spool\dec.log file (as an attachment), 
and I can take a look at it to see what is happening.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Bill B .

Ya, that is an issue.  We are currently working on a solution that will do two 
things...

1) run clean up code each time the user logs out of webmail, which trims the size of 
the spam mailbox if it is greater than a certain size.

2) an automated script that checks for spam mailboxes that have exceeded a certain 
size, since not all users user webmail.

We don't use Imail's webmail, we have custom code running on a bunch of Linux boxes 
which allows us to do things like #1 more easily.

Bill


-Original Message-
From: Charles Frolick
Sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:21:30 -0500
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


I do have one question, how do you manage the size of the spam folder when
they use that option?  I would love to use the MAILBOX action, but have no
way of cleaning out the spam folder without affecting the other folders,
including inbox, as well. We currently do not use aging as a restriction for
those who use webmail exclusively, we opted for size limits instead.

Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Baker |
Netsmith Inc
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:09 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Ok, I will stop posting on this thread after this.

For a working-example on how I have achieved this with imail and cold fusion
I have setup a test account.

Login = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pass  = declude

Manager: http://users.bsc.net/
WebMail: http://mail.bsc.net/

From the manager you can *import* an Outlook Express address book,
Or build your own, you can adjust the filter levels, and block individual
users.

These features just manage the rules.ima, which you can watch by going to
the web-mail
Interface and clicking Change Processing Rules

Anyone on this list is welcome to upload dummy address book's and play with
this account I just wanted to demonstrate to others how I have creatively
achieved this with IMAIL 6 / Cold Fusion.

* note: I built this interface before I became aware of the power of WEIGHT,
changing the filter-definitions to work with weights instead of individual
headers is on my to-do list, so if anyone actually does look at this please
don't flame me on how I could improve that.
I am already aware :)





-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:44 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Excuse the typo everyone, I meant to put a not (!)  in that long string

H!~THIS...

-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:41 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Oh, for an address book only
You must also add one last entry at the bottom of rules.ima

H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL

That will force anything not matched in the above of rules.ima to be deleted

Ex:
--rules.ima--
H~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
F~declude.com:main
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL
--/rules.ima--

Anything that does not match the first 3 lines will be deleted



-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:38 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Yes, this is how I already accomplished this for my users.
I have a cold fusion interface which verified login/password, then manages
their rules.ima Anyone they want to allow it writes at the top of the
rules.ima...

F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN

Any junk-mail they want to block it sends to SPAM folder

H~X-RBL-WARNING:SPAM

The problem with authorization is that IMAIL passwords are stored in
registry, so you have to make your script verify their password via POP3, or
use the IMAIL/REG password Decryption   routine that I wrote.

Could easily be replicated in .asp as well



-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that is
configurable by the user?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at this
time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text 

[Declude.JunkMail] FW: WARNING: YOU WERE SENT A VIRUS

2002-08-29 Thread Greg Foulks

I don't know how it is... But I still keep getting emails that pass through Declude 
when they have been black listed.

???

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Nicki Bloch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:43 AM
To: Greg
Subject: FW: WARNING: YOU WERE SENT A VIRUS




-Original Message-
From: Postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WARNING: YOU WERE SENT A VIRUS


The Declude Virus Scanner software on mail.nfti.com has reported that you
were
sent an E-mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED], containing the Unknown Virus
virus in the
Unknown File attachment.  The subject of the E-mail was W32.Elkern  removal
tools.
The E-mail containing the virus has been quarantined to prevent further
damage.

Headers Follow:
Received: from postoffice.inreach.com [209.142.2.45] by mail.nfti.com with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-6.06) id ADA9C7100FA; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:14:01 -0400
Received: from Ljz ([65.68.74.215]) by postoffice.inreach.com
  (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-68376U62000L6200S0V35)
  with SMTP id com for [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:13:51 -0700
From: bcal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: W32.Elkern  removal tools
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=JhzwE3Is17sYkT0a8
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: WARNING: YOU WERE SENT A VIRUS

2002-08-29 Thread John Tolmachoff

If they are blacklisted in JunkMail, JunkMail is processed after Virus.

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: WARNING: YOU WERE SENT A VIRUS

2002-08-29 Thread R. Scott Perry


I don't know how it is... But I still keep getting emails that pass 
through Declude when they have been black listed.

Well, what did you blacklist (the IP, the return address, something with a 
filter)?  What is the exact line in the blacklist file?
  -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: WARNING: YOU WERE SENT A VIRUS

2002-08-29 Thread Greg Foulks

Now that make sense. then I should but this sender in the Imail kill file? This would 
stop them from getting past the email server
right?


Greg

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: WARNING: YOU WERE SENT A VIRUS


If they are blacklisted in JunkMail, JunkMail is processed after Virus.

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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