RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread Craig Gittens



LOL My 
log level is MID and I run at 100MB a day.

Craig.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John 
  TolmachoffSent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:39 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results 
  with our configuration
  
  Currently, our log 
  level is set to HIGH and run about 4.5 mg on weekdays.
  
  Once I have added 
  one more set of files, Kamis, and watch that for about a week, then I may go 
  back down to MID. I will always be at MID or above.
  
  
  John Tolmachoff 
  MCSE, CSSA
  IT Manager, Network 
  Engineer
  RelianceSoft, 
  Inc.
  Fullerton, 
  CA 
  92835
  www.reliancesoft.com
  
  
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  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Darrell 
  L.Sent: Thursday, 
  January 23, 2003 
  2:00 
  PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results 
  with our configuration
  
  John,
  
  From your post I gathered that your log 
  level is atleast mid. Is this a normal configuration or just a one 
  time deal to look at the mail.
  
  Darrell
  
  
  
  Darrell LaRock
  Information Systems Analyst
  Gannett Television
  716-849-2272
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  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of John 
  TolmachoffSent: 
  Thursday, 
  January 23, 2003 
  1:22 
  PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with 
  our configuration
  
  I wanted to 
  post yesterdays results of Declude Junkmail:
  
  We hold on a 
  weight of 20 and delete at 40.
  Messages held 
  are reviewed using Spam Review software.
  
  There were no 
  False Positives in the messages deleted. This was reviewed by manually going 
  through the Declude Junkmail log for all messages deleted and looking at the 
  subject line and sender and recipient.
  
  3485 messages 
  were processed by Declude Junkmail.
  
  889 were 
  deleted.
  85 were 
  held.
  Of the held, 
  16 were False Positives.
  
  Total found 
  and deleted: 958 (27.49%)
  
  Individual 
  tests like SPAMCHECK and NOXMAIL generate a number of false positives, but 
  that is what the while filters and MATCH program is for. However, those tests 
  are also responsible for the majority of the messages 
  deleted.
  
  Tests used: 
  (numbers after action is weight we use)
  
  ORDB 
   WARN 
  2
  OSDUL 
   WARN 
  2
  OSFORM 
  WARN 2
  OSLIST 
  WARN 2
  OSPROXY 
  WARN 2
  OSRELAY 
  WARN 2
  OSSMART 
  WARN 2
  OSSOFT 
   WARN 
2
  OSSRC 
   WARN 
  10
  SPAMCOP 
  WARN 12
  DSN 
   WARN 
  10
  NOABUSE 
  WARN 3
  NOPOSTMASTER 
  WARN 3
  BADHEADERS 
   WARN 
  5
  BASE64 
  WARN 12
  HELOBOGUS 
   WARN 
  3
  IPNOTINMX 
   LOG 
  0 -3
  MAILFROM 
   WARN 15
  PERCENT 
  WARN 15
  REVDNS 
  WARN 2
  ROUTING 
  WARN 10
  SPAMHEADERS 
  WARN 5
  
  ADULT1 
  WARN 50
  JUNK 
   WARN 
  30
  SPAMCHECK 
   WARN 
  Weight
  NOXSPAM1 
   WARN 
  20
  NOXSPAM2 
   WARN 
  15
  NOXSPAM3 
   WARN 
  15
  NOXADULT1 
   WARN 
  20
  NOXADULT2 
   WARN 
  15
  NOXADULT3 
   WARN 
  15
  REVIEWER1 
   
  ROUTETO 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  WHITEFILTER1 
  WARN
  WHITEFILTER2 
  WARN
  WHITEFILTER3 
  WARN
  WHITEFILTER4 
  WARN
  GRAYFILTER1 
   WARN
  GRAYFILTER2 
   WARN
  GRAYFILTER3 
   WARN
  GRAYFILTER4 
   WARN
  MATCH 
  WARN -40
  
  Kami, I have 
  not yet had time to try your lists.
  
  John Tolmachoff MCSE, 
  CSSA
  IT Manager, Network 
  Engineer
  RelianceSoft, 
  Inc.
  Fullerton, 
  CA 
  92835
  www.reliancesoft.com
  


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread Markus Gufler
A very interesting argument. 
Can you provide us some config-settings and effectivity stats about your
system?
We all want to have such a large large logfile.   ;-)



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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration


LOL My log level is MID and I run at 100MB a day.

Craig.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread Adam Hobach
Our logs are the 100MB each day and I had to build a log file rotator so we
could open and analyze the logs a little easier. I have the log file rotator
running 4 times a day to keep the log files between 25-35 MB a piece.

The log file rotator uses Cold Fusion, if your interested I can email the
code to you. I also use this log file rotator for the Imail log files. Its
simple code but saves alot of time

Adam


Adam Hobach
CyberLynk Sales/Support
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Gittens
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration


LOL My log level is MID and I run at 100MB a day.

Craig.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration


Currently, our log level is set to HIGH and run about 4.5 mg on weekdays.

Once I have added one more set of files, Kami's, and watch that for about a
week, then I may go back down to MID. I will always be at MID or above.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darrell L.
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

John,

From your post I gathered that your log level is atleast mid.  Is this a
normal configuration or just a one time deal to look at the mail.

Darrell


Darrell LaRock
Information Systems Analyst
Gannett Television
716-849-2272
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

I wanted to post yesterdays results of Declude Junkmail:

We hold on a weight of 20 and delete at 40.
Messages held are reviewed using Spam Review software.

There were no False Positives in the messages deleted. This was reviewed by
manually going through the Declude Junkmail log for all messages deleted and
looking at the subject line and sender and recipient.

3485 messages were processed by Declude Junkmail.

889 were deleted.
85 were held.
Of the held, 16 were False Positives.

Total found and deleted: 958 (27.49%)

Individual tests like SPAMCHECK and NOXMAIL generate a number of false
positives, but that is what the while filters and MATCH program is for.
However, those tests are also responsible for the majority of the messages
deleted.

Tests used: (numbers after action is weight we use)

ORDB  WARN  2
OSDULWARN  2
OSFORM  WARN  2
OSLIST   WARN  2
OSPROXYWARN  2
OSRELAY WARN  2
OSSMARTWARN  2
OSSOFT  WARN  2
OSSRCWARN  10
SPAMCOPWARN  12
DSNWARN  10
NOABUSEWARN  3
NOPOSTMASTER   WARN  3
BADHEADERSWARN  5
BASE64   WARN  12
HELOBOGUS WARN  3
IPNOTINMX  LOG0-3
MAILFROM   WARN  15
PERCENT WARN  15
REVDNS  WARN  2
ROUTING WARN  10
SPAMHEADERS WARN  5

ADULT1   WARN  50
JUNK   WARN  30
SPAMCHECK WARN  Weight
NOXSPAM1   WARN  20
NOXSPAM2   WARN  15
NOXSPAM3   WARN  15
NOXADULT1 WARN  20
NOXADULT2 WARN  15
NOXADULT3 WARN  15
REVIEWER1  ROUTETO   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WHITEFILTER1 WARN
WHITEFILTER2 WARN
WHITEFILTER3 WARN
WHITEFILTER4 WARN
GRAYFILTER1WARN
GRAYFILTER2WARN
GRAYFILTER3WARN
GRAYFILTER4WARN
MATCH   WARN  -40

Kami, I have not yet had time to try your lists.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread Markus Gufler

 Individual tests like SPAMCHECK and NOXMAIL generate 
 a number of false positives...

Hi John,

Can you give me some example for false positives created by SpamChk?
Was they triggered from header- link- or keyword-checks?

We've set SpamChk to return his own opinion as a weight to declude. So
SpamChk will not say clearly this is spam or this is not spam
Attached you can see a report from today with over 1300 msgs and the
returncode from spamchk. 

Notes: 
We've a weighting-system with hold on 100. Because we add [s%weight%]
to any subject on hold messages we have no need to delete msgs
automaticaly. We simply sort the hold messages in Spamreview by subject
line. Then we can check the hold messages from 100 to ~200. done. 

We mean that for an external test like SpamChk it's very difficult to
say it had created false positives. If he reports more then the hold
value for a legit mail: Yes this we consider a false positive. 

Markus





spamchk_returncode.PDF
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread Keith Johnson
Adam,
Would love a copy emailed ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), although my logs
are just now going over 10mb, we keep adding customers weekly, so it
won't be long before it is to large to handle.  Thanks for the program,

-Keith

 -Original Message-
 From: Adam Hobach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration
 
 
 Our logs are the 100MB each day and I had to build a log 
 file rotator so we could open and analyze the logs a little 
 easier. I have the log file rotator running 4 times a day to 
 keep the log files between 25-35 MB a piece.
 
 The log file rotator uses Cold Fusion, if your interested I 
 can email the code to you. I also use this log file rotator 
 for the Imail log files. Its simple code but saves alot of time
 
 Adam
 
 
 Adam Hobach
 CyberLynk Sales/Support
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Gittens
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration
 
 
 LOL My log level is MID and I run at 100MB a day.
 
 Craig.
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John 
 Tolmachoff
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration
 
 
 Currently, our log level is set to HIGH and run about 4.5 mg 
 on weekdays.
 
 Once I have added one more set of files, Kami's, and watch 
 that for about a week, then I may go back down to MID. I will 
 always be at MID or above.
 
 John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
 IT Manager, Network Engineer
 RelianceSoft, Inc.
 Fullerton, CA  92835
 www.reliancesoft.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darrell L.
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration
 
 John,
 
 From your post I gathered that your log level is atleast mid.  Is 
 this a
 normal configuration or just a one time deal to look at the mail.
 
 Darrell
 
 
 Darrell LaRock
 Information Systems Analyst
 Gannett Television
 716-849-2272
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John 
 Tolmachoff
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration
 
 I wanted to post yesterdays results of Declude Junkmail:
 
 We hold on a weight of 20 and delete at 40.
 Messages held are reviewed using Spam Review software.
 
 There were no False Positives in the messages deleted. This 
 was reviewed by manually going through the Declude Junkmail 
 log for all messages deleted and looking at the subject line 
 and sender and recipient.
 
 3485 messages were processed by Declude Junkmail.
 
 889 were deleted.
 85 were held.
 Of the held, 16 were False Positives.
 
 Total found and deleted: 958 (27.49%)
 
 Individual tests like SPAMCHECK and NOXMAIL generate a number 
 of false positives, but that is what the while filters and 
 MATCH program is for. However, those tests are also 
 responsible for the majority of the messages deleted.
 
 Tests used: (numbers after action is weight we use)
 
 ORDB  WARN  2
 OSDULWARN  2
 OSFORM  WARN  2
 OSLIST   WARN  2
 OSPROXYWARN  2
 OSRELAY WARN  2
 OSSMARTWARN  2
 OSSOFT  WARN  2
 OSSRCWARN  10
 SPAMCOPWARN  12
 DSNWARN  10
 NOABUSEWARN  3
 NOPOSTMASTER   WARN  3
 BADHEADERSWARN  5
 BASE64   WARN  12
 HELOBOGUS WARN  3
 IPNOTINMX  LOG0-3
 MAILFROM   WARN  15
 PERCENT WARN  15
 REVDNS  WARN  2
 ROUTING WARN  10
 SPAMHEADERS WARN  5
 
 ADULT1   WARN  50
 JUNK   WARN  30
 SPAMCHECK WARN  Weight
 NOXSPAM1   WARN  20
 NOXSPAM2   WARN  15
 NOXSPAM3   WARN  15
 NOXADULT1 WARN  20
 NOXADULT2 WARN  15
 NOXADULT3 WARN  15
 REVIEWER1  ROUTETO   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WHITEFILTER1 WARN
 WHITEFILTER2 WARN
 WHITEFILTER3 WARN
 WHITEFILTER4 WARN
 GRAYFILTER1WARN
 GRAYFILTER2WARN
 GRAYFILTER3WARN
 GRAYFILTER4WARN
 MATCH   WARN  -40
 
 Kami, I have not yet had time to try your lists.
 
 John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
 IT Manager, Network Engineer
 RelianceSoft, Inc.
 Fullerton, CA  92835
 www.reliancesoft.com
 
 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread John Tolmachoff
 Can you give me some example for false positives created by SpamChk?
 Was they triggered from header- link- or keyword-checks?

You want me to work, don't you? ;)

As soon as I am able to, I will review the SpamCheck log and check.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread Craig Gittens
It's only cause we see 100,000 emails a day. About 80% fail Spamcop alone
I think. It takes 7-8 hours to run one log file so I don't do it often.
~12,000 email addresses in a single domain. I can't review email otherwise I
would be reviewing +15000 messages a day even after deletes. Read receipts
are a bane as far as I am concerned.

My setup is really bland but I think one day when I get a little time I will
try Sniffer. We are an ISP so NoXmail would seriously inconvenience the guys
who sign up for XXX mail.

Craig.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration


A very interesting argument.
Can you provide us some config-settings and effectivity stats about your
system?
We all want to have such a large large logfile.   ;-)



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LOL My log level is MID and I run at 100MB a day.

Craig.

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Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Dictionary Attacks

2003-01-24 Thread Bill B.
I use those same settings.  But in addition, you can configure BlackICE to auto-block 
the too many smtp errors event (dictionary attack) by editing your issuelist.csv 
file.

Look for this line:
2001015,SMTP too many errors,0,agg,-1,7,,Spam,The SMTP

And change the agg to IP|RST:
2001015,SMTP too many errors,0,IP|RST,-1,7,,Spam,The SMTP

This will tell BlackICE to auto-block the offending IP Address for 24 hours.  Don't 
expect the people at ISS to support this though.  They urged me not to edit that file 
when I asked.  But it does work.

Bill


-Original Message-
From: Roger Heath
Sent: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:50:21 -0600
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Dictionary Attacks


Reply to: Don Schreiner
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Dictionary Attacks on Thursday 11:51:25 AM

From an earlier msg:

Our  servers  are  very  stable  with  this firewall. It does not
autoblock  these  but you can manually block them. I noticed that
they  do  not  show up in the log any more, so it appears to work
fine.  I  know  you can set to autoblock select events by editing
the blackice.ini can be edited for example:

http.urllimit.count=60
http.urllimit.interval=50

will  temporarily  block  too  many  URL  requests, like web site
copying... These are the settings to block dictionary attacks. It
detects too many errors brought on by many failed logins...

[Settings]
smtp.error.count=10   ;total errors within
smtp.error.interval=120   ;this amount of time(sec)then blocked

--
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D Bill,

D Also running BI as of few weeks ago and tinkering with firewal.ini.
D Would you mind sharing the .ini changes you made. You can e-mail me off
D list. Thanks.

D Sincerely,

D Don Schreiner
D CompBiz, Inc.
D www.compbiz.net
D 407-322-8654
D 800-408-3688

D -Original Message-
D From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill B.
D Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:16 PM
D To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Dictionary Attacks


D We started running BlackICE last month and it has been working nice for
D us.  It requires a few config changes to get it to auto-block IPs that
D send you dictionary attacks, but it is definitely a good solution.

D Bill


D -Original Message-
D From: R. Scott Perry
D Sent: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:58:09 -0500
D Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Dictionary Attacks



It seems this morning that we have several dictionary attacks happening

on one of Imail servers. Is there an easy to stop the person doing 
this? I have looked through the log files and cannot easily spot the 
person(s) doing this.

Is there software that will prevent people from performing Dictionary 
Attacks in the future?

The POP3 and Delcude processes are using like 50-09% of the CPU.

Let me know if there is anything I can do...

D Are you sure that it is a dictionary attack?  If the POP3 process has 
D higher usage than normal, then E-mails are being sent to your users
D (which 
D would mean that it either isn't a dictionary attack, or a hybrid attack 
D where they send spam as part of the dictionary attack).

D You might want to check the archives of the IMail Forum for ideas on how
D to 
D stop a dictionary attack.  Some tricks are using a nobody alias (which
D I 
D believe you are), or using a product like BlackIce Server to stop it.

D Unfortunately, Declude can't stop these, because it doesn't have access
D to 
D the TCP/IP connection (which is where it would need to be stopped).
D   -Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] Trouble adding latest beta version

2003-01-24 Thread Jim Rooth
I copied the filed from the web, but when I try to copy it to the Imail
folder I get a sharing violation.  I stopped all services in Imail and still
get the sharing violation.  The only thing open on the server is Explorer so
I can see the files.  Any ideas?  I even tried to delete the existing file
but it says it is in use...

Jim Rooth
Klotron, Inc.
214.244.0979
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Trouble adding latest beta version

2003-01-24 Thread Rick Davidson
Renaming it fixes that condition for me

Have a great day!
Rick Davidson
Buckeye Internet Inc.
www.buckeyeweb.com
440-953-1900
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:07 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trouble adding latest beta version


I copied the filed from the web, but when I try to copy it to the Imail
folder I get a sharing violation.  I stopped all services in Imail and still
get the sharing violation.  The only thing open on the server is Explorer so
I can see the files.  Any ideas?  I even tried to delete the existing file
but it says it is in use...

Jim Rooth
Klotron, Inc.
214.244.0979
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trouble adding latest beta version

2003-01-24 Thread Jim Rooth
Thanks...that fixed it.  I was afraid to rename it because it said it was in
use.  Oh well...Declude -diag says the new one is up and running..1.66 so I
reckon everything is fine in cyber land.

Jim Rooth
Klotron, Inc.
214.244.0979
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Trouble adding latest beta version

Renaming it fixes that condition for me

Have a great day!
Rick Davidson
Buckeye Internet Inc.
www.buckeyeweb.com
440-953-1900
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trouble adding latest beta version


I copied the filed from the web, but when I try to copy it to the Imail
folder I get a sharing violation.  I stopped all services in Imail and still
get the sharing violation.  The only thing open on the server is Explorer so
I can see the files.  Any ideas?  I even tried to delete the existing file
but it says it is in use...

Jim Rooth
Klotron, Inc.
214.244.0979
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Trouble adding latest beta version

2003-01-24 Thread Scott MacLean

Try renaming the existing version and then copying in the
new version.
At 10:07 AM 1/24/2003, Jim Rooth wrote:
I copied the filed from the web,
but when I try to copy it to the Imail
folder I get a sharing violation. I stopped all services in Imail
and still
get the sharing violation. The only thing open on the server is
Explorer so
I can see the files. Any ideas? I even tried to delete the
existing file
but it says it is in use...
Jim Rooth
Klotron, Inc.
214.244.0979
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread Kris McElroy



My log level is set to low and 
yesterday I ran 130 MB? This brings me to ask a question How can I see the 
total number ofEmails that Declude processed for that day? This way 
I can analyze or get an idea of how much traffic this machine is 
seeing?


Thanks,

Kris McElroy[EMAIL PROTECTED]Internet 
Systems EngineerDuracom, INC.www.duracom.net 

“I'm retired 99.9%. Of course, there always is that .1%.”--Michael 
Jordan, February 18, 1999 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Craig 
  Gittens 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:18 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results 
  with our configuration
  
  LOL 
  My log level is MID and I run at 100MB a day.
  
  Craig.
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John 
TolmachoffSent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:39 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

Currently, our 
log level is set to HIGH and run about 4.5 mg on weekdays.

Once I have added 
one more set of files, Kami’s, and watch that for about a week, then I may 
go back down to MID. I will always be at MID or above.


John Tolmachoff 
MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, 
Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, 
Inc.
Fullerton, 
CA 
92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darrell L.Sent: Thursday, 
January 23, 2003 
2:00 
PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results 
with our configuration

John,

From your post I gathered that your log 
level is atleast “mid”. Is this a normal configuration or just a one 
time deal to look at the mail.

Darrell



Darrell LaRock
Information Systems Analyst
Gannett Television
716-849-2272
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John 
TolmachoffSent: 
Thursday, 
January 23, 2003 
1:22 
PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Results 
with our configuration

I wanted to 
post yesterdays results of Declude Junkmail:

We hold on 
a weight of 20 and delete at 40.
Messages 
held are reviewed using Spam Review software.

There were 
no False Positives in the messages deleted. This was reviewed by manually 
going through the Declude Junkmail log for all messages deleted and looking 
at the subject line and sender and recipient.

3485 
messages were processed by Declude Junkmail.

889 were 
deleted.
85 were 
held.
Of the 
held, 16 were False Positives.

Total found 
and deleted: 958 (27.49%)

Individual 
tests like SPAMCHECK and NOXMAIL generate a number of false positives, but 
that is what the while filters and MATCH program is for. However, those 
tests are also responsible for the majority of the messages 
deleted.

Tests used: 
(numbers after action is weight we use)

ORDB 
 WARN 
2
OSDUL 
 WARN 
2
OSFORM 
WARN 2
OSLIST 
WARN 2
OSPROXY 
WARN 2
OSRELAY 
WARN 2
OSSMART 
WARN 2
OSSOFT 
 WARN 
2
OSSRC 
 WARN 
10
SPAMCOP 
WARN 12
DSN 
 WARN 
10
NOABUSE 
WARN 3
NOPOSTMASTER 
WARN 3
BADHEADERS 
 WARN 
5
BASE64 
WARN 12
HELOBOGUS 
 WARN 
3
IPNOTINMX 
 LOG 
0 -3
MAILFROM 
 WARN 15
PERCENT 
WARN 15
REVDNS 
WARN 2
ROUTING 
WARN 10
SPAMHEADERS 
WARN 5

ADULT1 
WARN 50
JUNK 
 WARN 
30
SPAMCHECK 
 WARN 
Weight
NOXSPAM1 
 WARN 
20
NOXSPAM2 
 WARN 
15
NOXSPAM3 
 WARN 
15
NOXADULT1 
 WARN 
20
NOXADULT2 
 WARN 
15
NOXADULT3 
 WARN 
15
REVIEWER1 
 
ROUTETO 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
WHITEFILTER1 
WARN
WHITEFILTER2 
WARN
WHITEFILTER3 
WARN
WHITEFILTER4 
WARN
GRAYFILTER1 
 
WARN
GRAYFILTER2 
 
WARN
GRAYFILTER3 
 
WARN
GRAYFILTER4 
 
WARN
MATCH 
WARN -40

Kami, I 
have not yet had time to try your lists.

John Tolmachoff 
MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, 
Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, 
Inc.
Fullerton, 
CA 92835
www.reliancesoft.com



[Declude.JunkMail] Updated KillListGen utility

2003-01-24 Thread Scott MacLean

For those using my KillListGen utility automatically download Tom's spam
list and append it to their own, I have posted an updated version
here:
http://www.nerosoft.com/Download/KillListGenInst.exe
This version is identical to the previous version, with one exception: It
will accept multiple ListURL parameters in the
KillListGen.txt config file. When it sees more than one, it will download
and append all of them in turn:
' URLs to retrieve lists of current spam addresses/domains
ListURL=http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog/fromfile.txt
ListURL=http://www.anotherfile.com/whatever.txt
This allows using other lists in addition to Tom's.


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[Declude.JunkMail] Fwd: Updated KillListGen utility

2003-01-24 Thread Scott MacLean
Sorry, it was suggested to me that some newer members might have no idea 
what I am talking about. I wrote the utility below that retrieves one or 
more files via the web, appends it to a local file, and writes it out to 
another file. This allows the use of local blacklists added to regularly 
updated public blacklists. It is free for anyone who wishes to use it.

The file (once installed) is called KillListGen.exe. When run, it looks for 
a configuration file called KillListGen.txt in the same directory as the 
executable. The KillListGen.txt is pretty well self-documenting, a sample 
file is below. Any questions, please ask.

Sample KillListGen.txt file:

' Configuration file for Kill List Generator - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

' URLs to retrieve lists of current spam addresses/domains
ListURL=http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog/fromfile.txt
ListURL=http://www.anotherfile.com/whatever.txt

' Source file of local addresses you wish to keep on the list permanently.
' Comment out if no local address list is used.
SourceFile=c:\IMail\Declude\Source.txt

' Destination file that IMail reads which will be combined Source file and 
retrieved lists
DestFile=c:\IMail\Declude\Destination.txt


For those using my KillListGen utility automatically download Tom's spam 
list and append it to their own, I have posted an updated version here:

http://www.nerosoft.com/Download/KillListGenInst.exe

This version is identical to the previous version, with one exception: It 
will accept multiple ListURL parameters in the KillListGen.txt config 
file. When it sees more than one, it will download and append all of them 
in turn:

' URLs to retrieve lists of current spam addresses/domains
ListURL=http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog/fromfile.txt
ListURL=http://www.anotherfile.com/whatever.txt

This allows using other lists in addition to Tom's.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread John Tolmachoff









This is what I use, as listed on the
Declude tools page:



http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog/





John Tolmachoff MCSE,
CSSA

IT Manager, Network
Engineer

RelianceSoft, Inc.

Fullerton, CA 92835

www.reliancesoft.com







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kris McElroy
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003
7:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Results with our configuration





My log level is set to low and yesterday
I ran 130 MB? This brings me to ask a question How can I see the total
number ofEmails that Declude processed for that day? This way I can
analyze or get an idea of how much traffic this machine is seeing?

















Thanks,












Kris
McElroy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Internet Systems Engineer
Duracom, INC.
www.duracom.net 












I'm retired 99.9%. Of course, there always is that .1%.
--Michael Jordan, February 18, 1999 







- Original Message - 





From: Craig Gittens






To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Sent: Friday,
January 24, 2003 6:18 AM





Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration











LOL My log level is MID and I run at 100MB a day.











Craig.





-Original
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003
6:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Results with our configuration

Currently, our log level is set to HIGH
and run about 4.5 mg on weekdays.



Once I have added one more set of files,
Kamis, and watch that for about a week, then I may go back down to MID.
I will always be at MID or above.





John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA

IT Manager, Network
Engineer

RelianceSoft, Inc.

Fullerton, CA
92835

www.reliancesoft.com







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darrell L.
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003
2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Results with our configuration



John,



From your post I gathered that your log level is atleast
mid. Is this a normal configuration or just a one time deal
to look at the mail.



Darrell







Darrell LaRock

Information Systems Analyst

Gannett Television

716-849-2272



-Original
Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003
1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
Results with our configuration



I
wanted to post yesterdays results of Declude Junkmail:



We
hold on a weight of 20 and delete at 40.

Messages
held are reviewed using Spam Review software.



There
were no False Positives in the messages deleted. This was reviewed by manually
going through the Declude Junkmail log for all messages deleted and looking at
the subject line and sender and recipient.



3485
messages were processed by Declude Junkmail.



889
were deleted.

85
were held.

Of
the held, 16 were False Positives.



Total
found and deleted: 958 (27.49%)



Individual
tests like SPAMCHECK and NOXMAIL generate a number of false positives, but that
is what the while filters and MATCH program is for. However, those tests are
also responsible for the majority of the messages deleted.



Tests
used: (numbers after action is weight we use)



ORDB
 WARN 2

OSDUL
 WARN 2

OSFORM
WARN 2

OSLIST
WARN 2

OSPROXY
WARN 2

OSRELAY
WARN 2

OSSMART
WARN 2

OSSOFT
 WARN 2

OSSRC
 WARN 10

SPAMCOP
WARN 12

DSN
 WARN 10

NOABUSE
WARN 3

NOPOSTMASTER
WARN 3

BADHEADERS
 WARN 5

BASE64
WARN 12

HELOBOGUS
 WARN 3

IPNOTINMX
 LOG
0 -3

MAILFROM
 WARN 15

PERCENT
WARN 15

REVDNS
WARN 2

ROUTING
WARN 10

SPAMHEADERS
WARN 5



ADULT1
WARN 50

JUNK
 WARN 30

SPAMCHECK
 WARN Weight

NOXSPAM1
 WARN 20

NOXSPAM2
 WARN 15

NOXSPAM3
 WARN 15

NOXADULT1
 WARN 20

NOXADULT2
 WARN 15

NOXADULT3
 WARN 15

REVIEWER1

ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

WHITEFILTER1
WARN

WHITEFILTER2
WARN

WHITEFILTER3
WARN

WHITEFILTER4
WARN

GRAYFILTER1
 WARN

GRAYFILTER2
 WARN

GRAYFILTER3
 WARN

GRAYFILTER4
 WARN

MATCH
WARN -40



Kami,
I have not yet had time to try your lists.



John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA

IT Manager, Network Engineer

RelianceSoft, Inc.

Fullerton, CA 92835

www.reliancesoft.com


















RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread David Lewis-Waller
Title: Message



You 
could use domlist http://www.declude.com/tools/index.html. 
This will analyse your SMTP log file generate by Imail as opposed to those 
generated byDeclude.

David
WiSS 
Limited

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Kris McElroySent: 24 January 2003 
  15:39To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration
  My log level is set to low and 
  yesterday I ran 130 MB? This brings me to ask a question How can I see 
  the total number ofEmails that Declude processed for that day? 
  This way I can analyze or get an idea of how much traffic this machine is 
  seeing?
  
  
  Thanks,
  
  Kris McElroy[EMAIL PROTECTED]Internet 
  Systems EngineerDuracom, INC.www.duracom.net 
  
  I'm retired 99.9%. Of course, there always is that 
  .1%.--Michael Jordan, February 18, 1999 
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Craig 
Gittens 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:18 
AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results 
with our configuration

LOL My log level is MID and I run at 100MB a 
day.

Craig.

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John 
  TolmachoffSent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:39 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration
  
  Currently, our 
  log level is set to HIGH and run about 4.5 mg on 
  weekdays.
  
  Once I have 
  added one more set of files, Kamis, and watch that for about a week, then 
  I may go back down to MID. I will always be at MID or 
  above.
  
  
  John Tolmachoff 
  MCSE, CSSA
  IT Manager, 
  Network Engineer
  RelianceSoft, 
  Inc.
  Fullerton, 
  CA 
  92835
  www.reliancesoft.com
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darrell L.Sent: Thursday, 
  January 23, 2003 
  2:00 
  PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  Results with our configuration
  
  John,
  
  From your post I gathered that your 
  log level is atleast mid. Is this a normal configuration or just a 
  one time deal to look at the mail.
  
  Darrell
  
  
  
  Darrell LaRock
  Information Systems Analyst
  Gannett Television
  716-849-2272
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John 
  TolmachoffSent: 
  Thursday, 
  January 23, 2003 
  1:22 
  PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Results 
  with our configuration
  
  I wanted 
  to post yesterdays results of Declude Junkmail:
  
  We hold 
  on a weight of 20 and delete at 40.
  Messages 
  held are reviewed using Spam Review software.
  
  There 
  were no False Positives in the messages deleted. This was reviewed by 
  manually going through the Declude Junkmail log for all messages deleted 
  and looking at the subject line and sender and 
recipient.
  
  3485 
  messages were processed by Declude Junkmail.
  
  889 were 
  deleted.
  85 were 
  held.
  Of the 
  held, 16 were False Positives.
  
  Total 
  found and deleted: 958 (27.49%)
  
  Individual 
  tests like SPAMCHECK and NOXMAIL generate a number of false positives, but 
  that is what the while filters and MATCH program is for. However, those 
  tests are also responsible for the majority of the messages 
  deleted.
  
  Tests 
  used: (numbers after action is weight we use)
  
  ORDB 
   WARN 
  2
  OSDUL 
   WARN 
  2
  OSFORM 
  WARN 2
  OSLIST 
  WARN 2
  OSPROXY 
  WARN 2
  OSRELAY 
  WARN 2
  OSSMART 
  WARN 2
  OSSOFT 
   WARN 
  2
  OSSRC 
   WARN 
  10
  SPAMCOP 
  WARN 12
  DSN 
   WARN 
  10
  NOABUSE 
  WARN 3
  NOPOSTMASTER 
  WARN 3
  BADHEADERS 
   WARN 
  5
  BASE64 
  WARN 12
  HELOBOGUS 
   WARN 
  3
  IPNOTINMX 
   
  LOG 0 
  -3
  MAILFROM 
   WARN 15
  PERCENT 
  WARN 15
  REVDNS 
  WARN 2
  ROUTING 
  WARN 10
  SPAMHEADERS 
  WARN 5
  
  ADULT1 
  WARN 50
  JUNK 
   WARN 
  30
  SPAMCHECK 
   WARN 
  Weight
  NOXSPAM1 
   WARN 
  20
  NOXSPAM2 
   WARN 
  15
  NOXSPAM3 
   WARN 
  15
  NOXADULT1 
   WARN 
  20
  NOXADULT2 
   WARN 
  15
  NOXADULT3 
   WARN 
  15
  REVIEWER1 
   
  ROUTETO 
 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] Mozilla email client

2003-01-24 Thread Madscientist
The next phase of Message Sniffer development includes a compound
Bayesian hinting algorythm to help modulate the black/white rule set.
Since Message Sniffer works with Declude that's one way this technology
will find it's way into the mix.

Scott's got a good point though - Bayesian filtering (as it has been
implemented) tends to work well at very specific tasks... That is, you
might get it to learn your specific email preferences accuratly - but
once you get to the server level where there are many people involved
the accuracy drops significantly due to the diversity of the message
content and the difficulties in obtaining training data... this is why
we will be implementing a structured differentiation approch.

One direct application that might work for Declude... If you can solve
the training problem you might use a Naieve Bayesian chain rule to
combine the results of the declude tests... Specifically Declude could
maintain a table of rule firings (including white  black lists, white 
black word lists etc) and collect a statistical product on the
combinations of rules that fire.

Then it could interpret that data as a new test which adds or subtracts
a weight given the Bayesian probability of that combination of tests
being spam.

For example, the Bayesian Product test would learn that a specific
combination of rule firings has a high probability of being spam on a
given system, while another combination of test firings has a lower or
negative probability (given some threshold). 

Additional hiting can be providided by using the external list tests
to match for patterns that may be specific to that system - or shared
between the group.

As Declude integrates a greater number of tests it's simple weighting
scheme will become less effective and difficult to tune - a  Bayesian
approach to combining the test results might bridge the gap.

-- just a thought,
_M

| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. 
| Scott Perry
| Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:29 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] Mozilla email client
| 
| 
| 
| I read about this Bayesian filtering/scanning at some other forum as 
| well. Is this something that Declude Junkmail does right now 
| or will do 
| in the
| (near) future? Would be nice if it were a feature of the 
| scanner on the
| server in stead of changing all mail client software? ;-)
| 
| There was a very similar feature (the heuristics test), but 
| it proved to 
| be too unreliable when it came to mailing list E-mail.
| 
| Although in theory the Bayes Theory should work very well in 
| detecting 
| spam, it does not in reality (for very technical reasons).  
| Using the Bayes 
| Theory for spam testing relies on a number of assumptions 
| that don't hold 
| true -- it's kind of like saying if Sports Team X wins 2 of 
| the first 3 
| games they play, they have a 66% chance of winning the next 
| game.  With the 
| right assumptions, this could be accurate or close to it, but 
| otherwise it 
| just isn't accurate.
| -Scott
| 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Logfile Question

2003-01-24 Thread Darrell L.
Scott,

Will declude transactions ever interleave in the log file?

It appears they are always like this in the log file

MESSAGE1 FAILED THIS
MESSAGE1 FAILED THIS
MESSAGE1 FAILED THIS
MESSAGE2 FAILED THIS
MESSAGE2 FAILED THIS

Instead of this

MESSAGE1 FAILED THIS
MESSAGE1 FAILED THIS
MESSAGE2 FAILED THIS
MESSAGE1 FAILED THIS
MESSAGE2 FAILED THIS

Can you confirm if this is the always the case. 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logfile Question

2003-01-24 Thread R. Scott Perry


Will declude transactions ever interleave in the log file?


Yes, they can.


Can you confirm if this is the always the case.


In most cases, the log file entries will not be mixed together -- but in 
some cases it may occur.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread Markus Gufler
From your website:

Total Emails Clean  = 3,464,084
Total Emails Infected   = 19,565Inbound=9,556 / Outbound=10,009


Not bad, not bad!
but 10,000 outgoing viri ???
What are your user's doing?

We catch only around 15 viri/day found in 2,500 incoming  outgoing
messages/day (0,6%)
More then 99% of the infected messages are inbound. 



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[Declude.JunkMail] what am I doing wrong with kill list?

2003-01-24 Thread David Dodell
I finally installed killlistgen utility that grabs imageonline file
...

The global.cfg file has the following line

KFROM fromfile e:\imail\declude\killlist.txt x 5 0

And

KFROM WARN


Am I missing something here where I'm getting an action of Ignore in
my logs?

David


Action=WARN.
01/24/2003 11:59:05 Q8cf66b5a0210cac4 Msg failed NJABLDUL
(discountdeals.net/edirectbroadcast.com spam house -- 1038402598).
Action=WARN.
01/24/2003 11:59:05 Q8cf66b5a0210cac4 Msg failed BADHEADERS (This E-mail was
sent from a broken mail client [8000800e].). Action=WARN.
01/24/2003 11:59:05 Q8cf66b5a0210cac4 Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was
sent from a MUA/MTA 208.46.5.36 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=WARN.
01/24/2003 11:59:05 Q8cf66b5a0210cac4 Msg failed KFROM
 ID-20030123-000140). Action=IGNORE.
01/24/2003 11:59:05 Q8cf66b5a0210cac4 Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 48
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results with our configuration

2003-01-24 Thread John Tolmachoff









10009 outbound infected. Wow.





John Tolmachoff MCSE,
CSSA

IT Manager, Network
Engineer

RelianceSoft, Inc.

Fullerton, CA 92835

www.reliancesoft.com







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Results with our configuration





I get them by actually analysing my Virus file since that
only takes 15 mins. I get ~1% infection rate.





http://www.sunbeach.net/virii_caught.cfmStats.











Craig.






















RE: [Declude.JunkMail] what am I doing wrong with kill list?

2003-01-24 Thread John Tolmachoff
 The global.cfg file has the following line
 KFROM fromfile e:\imail\declude\killlist.txt x 5 0
 KFROM WARN
 Am I missing something here where I'm getting an action of Ignore in
 my logs?

What is the action listed in the $default$.junkmail file?

That is the one being used.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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[Declude.JunkMail] Declude in PCMag

2003-01-24 Thread Roger Heath
Congratulations, Scott. Declude is mentioned in PCMag,
latest February 25th Issue, page 95. Sniffer is also in
the same listing. Suppose we'll see price increases now.

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DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude in PCMag

2003-01-24 Thread Brian Milburn

Nah, we've been in there a bunch of times and all you get is calls from people
wanting to know if you have a Mac version!

Just kidding, congratulations Scott!

Brian
 
On 01/24/03 3:52pm you wrote...
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude in PCMag

2003-01-24 Thread Madscientist
No price increase here :-)
_M

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude in PCMag

2003-01-24 Thread R. Scott Perry


Congratulations, Scott. Declude is mentioned in PCMag,
latest February 25th Issue, page 95. Sniffer is also in
the same listing.


Cool.  :)


 Suppose we'll see price increases now.


Well, if the demand is there for a price increase, we could probably 
accommodate it.  A show of hands, please?  G
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)

2003-01-24 Thread Jay Calvert
I would be interested.


- Original Message -
From: Duane Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:32 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)


 I have been working on (in my spare time) a declude (eventually imail log
 files too) analyzer that will parse the declude virus and junkmail log
files
 (we don't have hijack ... sorry).  Yeah, not another one!  Seems as if
 everybody has one these days.
 Well I took it to another level.  The program parses out the log files,
 updates that information to a mssql database (access in the future), then
 there is a web site that will draw all these numbers out in pie charts.

 I would include a few pictures with this email, but am not sure if that is
 allowed.  But if you are interested in trying out this program or looking
at
 screen shots, just email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 So far, the program works as follows.  Parses log file for declude virus
 ONLY, need more work for junkmail.  Updates MSSQL database ONLY, need to
add
 access.  I am currently working on the web side of it, not sure to use PHP
 or ASP yet.  Probably PHP.

 Interesting?

 Duane Cox
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)

2003-01-24 Thread Duane Cox
Great, I will get you a copy sometime next week, and look forward to your
feedback.
I assume you are setup with MSSQL 7 or 2000 and IIS 5.

Duane


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From: Jay Calvert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)


 I would be interested.


 - Original Message -
 From: Duane Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:32 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)


  I have been working on (in my spare time) a declude (eventually imail
log
  files too) analyzer that will parse the declude virus and junkmail log
 files
  (we don't have hijack ... sorry).  Yeah, not another one!  Seems as if
  everybody has one these days.
  Well I took it to another level.  The program parses out the log files,
  updates that information to a mssql database (access in the future),
then
  there is a web site that will draw all these numbers out in pie charts.
 
  I would include a few pictures with this email, but am not sure if that
is
  allowed.  But if you are interested in trying out this program or
looking
 at
  screen shots, just email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  So far, the program works as follows.  Parses log file for declude virus
  ONLY, need more work for junkmail.  Updates MSSQL database ONLY, need to
 add
  access.  I am currently working on the web side of it, not sure to use
PHP
  or ASP yet.  Probably PHP.
 
  Interesting?
 
  Duane Cox
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)

2003-01-24 Thread Jay Calvert
Shouldn't work with Access if the datasource isn't hard coded?
Like are you creating the database and tables if they don't exist?

Or does it rely on a database already created?





- Original Message -
From: Duane Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)


 Great, I will get you a copy sometime next week, and look forward to your
 feedback.
 I assume you are setup with MSSQL 7 or 2000 and IIS 5.

 Duane


 - Original Message -
 From: Jay Calvert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)


  I would be interested.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Duane Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:32 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)
 
 
   I have been working on (in my spare time) a declude (eventually imail
 log
   files too) analyzer that will parse the declude virus and junkmail log
  files
   (we don't have hijack ... sorry).  Yeah, not another one!  Seems as if
   everybody has one these days.
   Well I took it to another level.  The program parses out the log
files,
   updates that information to a mssql database (access in the future),
 then
   there is a web site that will draw all these numbers out in pie
charts.
  
   I would include a few pictures with this email, but am not sure if
that
 is
   allowed.  But if you are interested in trying out this program or
 looking
  at
   screen shots, just email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   So far, the program works as follows.  Parses log file for declude
virus
   ONLY, need more work for junkmail.  Updates MSSQL database ONLY, need
to
  add
   access.  I am currently working on the web side of it, not sure to use
 PHP
   or ASP yet.  Probably PHP.
  
   Interesting?
  
   Duane Cox
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)

2003-01-24 Thread Duane Cox
Currently, the program is utilizing MSSQL only.  This allows for PHP or ASP
to be hosted on a separate IIS box and access the data from the MSSQL box,
all separate from the IMail server.  I assume you could run all 3 on the
same box, or (in the future dump the data to a access file).  Currently
there is a .sql script that creates the user/password, database, tables, and
columns.  Then you just let the program run every night at 12:01am to update
the database from the previous day's logs.  You can also manually run the
program with the --file option to specify a specific log to analyze, but
with no options, it just analyzes the file(month)(today's date - 1 day).log
When the access becomes available, the access file will have the tables and
columns already setup. (NOT YET)

Duane


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From: Jay Calvert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)


 Shouldn't work with Access if the datasource isn't hard coded?
 Like are you creating the database and tables if they don't exist?

 Or does it rely on a database already created?





 - Original Message -
 From: Duane Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)


  Great, I will get you a copy sometime next week, and look forward to
your
  feedback.
  I assume you are setup with MSSQL 7 or 2000 and IIS 5.
 
  Duane
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jay Calvert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)
 
 
   I would be interested.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Duane Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:32 PM
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)
  
  
I have been working on (in my spare time) a declude (eventually
imail
  log
files too) analyzer that will parse the declude virus and junkmail
log
   files
(we don't have hijack ... sorry).  Yeah, not another one!  Seems as
if
everybody has one these days.
Well I took it to another level.  The program parses out the log
 files,
updates that information to a mssql database (access in the future),
  then
there is a web site that will draw all these numbers out in pie
 charts.
   
I would include a few pictures with this email, but am not sure if
 that
  is
allowed.  But if you are interested in trying out this program or
  looking
   at
screen shots, just email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
So far, the program works as follows.  Parses log file for declude
 virus
ONLY, need more work for junkmail.  Updates MSSQL database ONLY,
need
 to
   add
access.  I am currently working on the web side of it, not sure to
use
  PHP
or ASP yet.  Probably PHP.
   
Interesting?
   
Duane Cox
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude in PCMag

2003-01-24 Thread Dan Patnode
As a Mac user (prone to nagging developers), I resemble that remark!;)



On Friday, January 24, 2003 14:05, Brian Milburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nah, we've been in there a bunch of times and all you get is calls from people
wanting to know if you have a Mac version!

Just kidding, congratulations Scott!

Brian
 
On 01/24/03 3:52pm you wrote...
Congratulations, Scott. Declude is mentioned in PCMag,
latest February 25th Issue, page 95. Sniffer is also in
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[Declude.JunkMail] new declude log analyzer (BETA)

2003-01-24 Thread Duane Cox
I have been working on (in my spare time) a declude (eventually imail log
files too) analyzer that will parse the declude virus and junkmail log files
(we don't have hijack ... sorry).  Yeah, not another one!  Seems as if
everybody has one these days.
Well I took it to another level.  The program parses out the log files,
updates that information to a mssql database (access in the future), then
there is a web site that will draw all these numbers out in pie charts.

I would include a few pictures with this email, but am not sure if that is
allowed.  But if you are interested in trying out this program or looking at
screen shots, just email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So far, the program works as follows.  Parses log file for declude virus
ONLY, need more work for junkmail.  Updates MSSQL database ONLY, need to add
access.  I am currently working on the web side of it, not sure to use PHP
or ASP yet.  Probably PHP.

Interesting?

Duane Cox
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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