[Declude.JunkMail] IPNOTINMX and REVDNS Questions

2003-11-17 Thread Burzin Sumariwalla
Hello,

Most of the mail sent by mail clients within my organization fails the 
IPNOTINMX and REVDNS.  Is there a way for me to setup Declude to skip this 
test if the mail is sent from a range of IP blocks?  Alternatively is there 
a way for mail to automatically pass the IPNOTINMX and REVDNS if sent from 
a range of IP blocks?

Thanks,
Burzin
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: FireWall VPN Opinion

2003-11-17 Thread Mark Smith
Go for Checkpoint's 25 user/IP option.
You can buy two Nokia IP350's on Ebay for $400.00 each.

Blows Sonicwall, Watchguard and anything else outtta' the water.



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 I need to setup a VPN between two offices with under 25
 computers one location and 5 at the other end. Both offices
 also need client remote VPN from windows XP

 What are your opinions on the

 SONICWALL and WATCHGUARD products

 Sonicwall SOHO 3 or Warchguard SOHO 6tc


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IPNOTINMX and REVDNS Questions

2003-11-17 Thread R. Scott Perry

Most of the mail sent by mail clients within my organization fails the 
IPNOTINMX and REVDNS.
That is quite common.

Is there a way for me to setup Declude to skip this test if the mail is 
sent from a range of IP blocks?
No.  However:

Alternatively is there a way for mail to automatically pass the IPNOTINMX 
and REVDNS if sent from a range of IP blocks?
You could whitelist your IP range if you like.  For example, you could add 
a line WHITELIST IP 192.0.2.0/24 to the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file, 
which would whitelist all E-mail in the 192.0.2.0 Class C range.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Updater

2003-11-17 Thread Burzin Sumariwalla
Hi Markus,

Yep.  I installed it on my XP Pro (SP1+) workstation, created a zero-length 
declude.exe in the Imail directory, and got the same results.
I figured that this may have been because I didn't actually have Imail on 
the machine, so I repeated the process on a Imail Express box (W2K 
SP4+).  Same results.

In both cases DU downloaded the Release and Beta.  It just didn't copy them 
to c:\imail.  I suppose its possible that it's trying to copy and not 
overwriting,
but I'm not sure how to figure that out.

Burzin

At 12:16 PM 11/16/2003, you wrote:
Burzin,

I have no idea why I doesn't work.
Have you tried to install DU on another machine for testing?
Markus

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[Declude.JunkMail] unacceptable mail address?

2003-11-17 Thread Administration
I just started receiving this error in my imail log files the other,
and only from this domain...
does any one know what this means? or how i can fix it??

11:17 12:00 SMTPD(25D0010C) [216.0.0.8] unacceptable mail address in MAIL
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks in advance for your time!
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] unacceptable mail address?

2003-11-17 Thread R. Scott Perry

I just started receiving this error in my imail log files the other,
and only from this domain...
does any one know what this means? or how i can fix it??
11:17 12:00 SMTPD(25D0010C) [216.0.0.8] unacceptable mail address in MAIL
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's about a 95% chance that you have [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
@netnitco.net in your IMail SMTP Kill File.

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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: DNS Issues

2003-11-17 Thread Charles Frolick
I just finished moving all of my servers to all new boxes on a new
backbone connection with my own ARIN designation.  The problem I seem to
suffering from is, even though I have 1 hour TTL's some ISP's are taking
days to refresh the records for many of the servers and the hosted
domains.  I moved the Mail server and DNS servers about 2 weeks earlier
with no problems, but the others are killing me since now I have a lot
of customers complaining they can't see or modify their sites.  I have
checked DNSStuff and many similar sites, and all say everything is
correct, yet customers still see the wrong thing, even after ipconfig
/flushdns on XP and 2k.

Everything has been moved now, and is coming back to normal, however, I
would like to be able to prevent it in the future, I will be moving
servers from other companies into my address space (we are aquiring).

My zone is argolink.net, and one zone I had particular problems with is
houstonsweddingguide.com.  If you want more examples, I have plenty of
zones to poke at.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoLink.net


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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] unacceptable mail address?

2003-11-17 Thread Administration
yup,
that was it,.
thanks!

ken

Monday, November 17, 2003, 12:58:34 PM, you wrote:


I just started receiving this error in my imail log files the other,
and only from this domain...
does any one know what this means? or how i can fix it??

11:17 12:00 SMTPD(25D0010C) [216.0.0.8] unacceptable mail address in MAIL
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RSP There's about a 95% chance that you have [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
RSP @netnitco.net in your IMail SMTP Kill File.

RSP -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist format question

2003-11-17 Thread Matt Robertson
Is this the proper format for a blacklist entry in global.cfg (I use
tabs in my actual file instead of spaces)

I-BLACKLIST fromfile z:\blah\blah\i-bl.txt x 6 0

And inside that file, are these sample entries properly formatted?

@05.pn01.com I-Blacklist
@05vvec.gq.nu I-Blacklist
@05world.co.kr I-Blacklist

Just checking.  I installed a new blacklist but it hasn't caught
anything yet.

Cheers,


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist format question

2003-11-17 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is this the proper format for a blacklist entry in global.cfg (I use
tabs in my actual file instead of spaces)
I-BLACKLIST fromfile z:\blah\blah\i-bl.txt x 6 0
That will work fine for a sender blacklist.

And inside that file, are these sample entries properly formatted?

@05.pn01.com I-Blacklist
@05vvec.gq.nu I-Blacklist
@05world.co.kr I-Blacklist
That looks perfect.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Imail blacklist, phrase list converter

2003-11-17 Thread Matt Robertson
I've written a ColdFusion program that converts Imail blacklist entries
to Declude format.  The same program takes the Imail phrase list and
creates a Declude filter file, where the text of each line in the
original file becomes a SUBJECT CONTAINS and BODY CONTAINS test.

Don't know how many CF'ers there are out there.  If you want a copy let
me know.  Suggestions for improvement gladly accepted.  

Cheers,


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: DNS Issues

2003-11-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
Chuck,

I don't believe there is any way to prevent that from happening.  Some 
ISP's configure their DNS servers to override your TTL settings and can 
keep things cached in DNS for as long as 48 hours (from what I hear).  
The only thing that I could think of doing what you already did in this 
case would be to set up a router or proxy server on the old address 
space to do do some translation while that block is still active.  
Starting such cutovers early Saturday morning is also probably a good 
idea :)

Matt



Charles Frolick wrote:

I just finished moving all of my servers to all new boxes on a new
backbone connection with my own ARIN designation.  The problem I seem to
suffering from is, even though I have 1 hour TTL's some ISP's are taking
days to refresh the records for many of the servers and the hosted
domains.  I moved the Mail server and DNS servers about 2 weeks earlier
with no problems, but the others are killing me since now I have a lot
of customers complaining they can't see or modify their sites.  I have
checked DNSStuff and many similar sites, and all say everything is
correct, yet customers still see the wrong thing, even after ipconfig
/flushdns on XP and 2k.
Everything has been moved now, and is coming back to normal, however, I
would like to be able to prevent it in the future, I will be moving
servers from other companies into my address space (we are aquiring).
My zone is argolink.net, and one zone I had particular problems with is
houstonsweddingguide.com.  If you want more examples, I have plenty of
zones to poke at.
Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoLink.net
 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail blacklist, phrase list converter

2003-11-17 Thread Keith Purtell
I'm a CFer; I'd like to see a copy of that.

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 I've written a ColdFusion program that converts Imail
 blacklist entries
 to Declude format.  The same program takes the Imail phrase list and
 creates a Declude filter file, where the text of each line in the
 original file becomes a SUBJECT CONTAINS and BODY CONTAINS test.

 Don't know how many CF'ers there are out there.  If you want
 a copy let
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 Cheers,

 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail blacklist, phrase list converter

2003-11-17 Thread Danny Klopfer
I would be interested.

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I've written a ColdFusion program that converts Imail blacklist entries
to Declude format.  The same program takes the Imail phrase list and
creates a Declude filter file, where the text of each line in the
original file becomes a SUBJECT CONTAINS and BODY CONTAINS test.

Don't know how many CF'ers there are out there.  If you want a copy let
me know.  Suggestions for improvement gladly accepted.

Cheers,


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail blacklist, phrase list converter

2003-11-17 Thread Matt Robertson
OK, give me a bit to spiff it up a bit.  I'm going to add in the ability to download 
and unzip the source files from the Ipswitch site, and have it check a 'skip list' 
before adding domains, so you only have to remove unwanted blacklistings once.

In response to another off-list query, I have averaged the performance I'm getting, 
and with logs set to 'debug' I averaged 245ms per mailpiece over several dozen 
receipts.  No idea what it was before I added the phrase and black list checking.



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[Declude.JunkMail] Store and Forward Question

2003-11-17 Thread Keith Johnson
Since Imail doesn't have a way to reject an email based on its size when
a domain is setup in a Gateway scenario (i.e. store and forward), I
thought I would post this to the Declude community.  Does Declude JMPro
have a way to bounce an email based upon its size?  What we are seeing,
is when an email comes in to Imail (Store and forward setup), Declude
scans it for viruses and spam and then Imail attempts delivery to remote
SMTP server.  The remote SMTP server has restrictions placed upon
acceptance, in that if the email is over 3mb in size, it will not
accept.  The remote server kindly tells our Imail server that it was
rejected due to size restrictions (shows in syslog on Imail), however,
Imail then bounces the email back to the sender as undeliverable, no
notation that it failed due to size restrictions.  I understand that the
sending server doesn't connect directly with the remote server, however,
there has to be a better way to get a 'size rejected notification' back
to the original sender.  Thanks for any aid.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Strange Anomaly

2003-11-17 Thread Keith Johnson
We are running Declude JMPro Version 1.76i13.  Most of our domains are
setup using the Per Domain configuration, in those configs, we have
setup ROUTETO statements to route their spam to a certain email address
either local or remote.  Since last Thursday (off and on before that),
some spam email has been appearing in the SPAM folder in the Spool
directory (although we do not send any spam to that folder).  I just
checked it and we had over a 1000 in there.  I looked at the D* files
and they show that these emails were sent to domains that had per domain
setup configs.  These domains have been setup and working for well over
a year. We run Imail 8.04 on Windows 2000 SP4. 

Has anyone seen this.  

Also, we have started to see several emails that don't show any X
information placed in them by Declude.  We traced them in the Imail
syslog and they show accepted and Q* assignment given with delivery.
They arrive to the inbox of the users untouched by Declude (no header
info inserted).  Anyone seen this as well.  

Thanks for the aid,

Keith
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail blacklist, phrase list converter

2003-11-17 Thread Matt Robertson
Scott,

Can I set up a blacklist as follows, where the blacklisted url is also the url's 
description?  I want to be able to see the failed url in the logs.  

@zthub.ct.flasail.com zthub.ct.flasail.com
@zthub.oo.flasail.com zthub.oo.flasail.com
@zthub.wc.flasail.com zthub.wc.flasail.com
@ztjxr.ct.flasail.com ztjxr.ct.flasail.com

If so, whats the char limit?  Accepts special chars like % ?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Anomaly

2003-11-17 Thread Bill Landry
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 Has anyone seen this.

We don't use any per-user configurations, so have not seen this one.

 Also, we have started to see several emails that don't show any X
 information placed in them by Declude.  We traced them in the Imail
 syslog and they show accepted and Q* assignment given with delivery.
 They arrive to the inbox of the users untouched by Declude (no header
 info inserted).  Anyone seen this as well.

Yes, we have seen this one and I have posted info to the list about these
message with missing Declude headers a couple of times.  Scott says it is
most likely because the E-mail was incorrectly being sent with a CR or LF
character instead of the proper CRLF sequence, and that's where it's been
left.

The messages look fine to me and I do not see any headers in the body of the
message, and the IMail and JunkMail logs look perfectly normal, so...?

Bill

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail blacklist, phrase list converter

2003-11-17 Thread R. Scott Perry

Can I set up a blacklist as follows, where the blacklisted url is also the 
url's description?  I want to be able to see the failed url in the logs.

@zthub.ct.flasail.com zthub.ct.flasail.com
@zthub.oo.flasail.com zthub.oo.flasail.com
@zthub.wc.flasail.com zthub.wc.flasail.com
@ztjxr.ct.flasail.com ztjxr.ct.flasail.com
If so, whats the char limit?  Accepts special chars like % ?
That would work fine -- I believe there is a limit of 1000 characters on 
the line, and any standard (non-high-bit and non-control) characters can be 
used.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Anomaly

2003-11-17 Thread R. Scott Perry

Since last Thursday (off and on before that),
some spam email has been appearing in the SPAM folder in the Spool
directory (although we do not send any spam to that folder).
This will happen if the HOLD action is used.  I would suggest checking your 
config files to see where the HOLD action appears -- it's almost certainly 
somewhere in your config files.

Also, we have started to see several emails that don't show any X
information placed in them by Declude.  We traced them in the Imail
syslog and they show accepted and Q* assignment given with delivery.
They arrive to the inbox of the users untouched by Declude (no header
info inserted).  Anyone seen this as well.
Does the Declude JunkMail log file show any information about the 
E-mail?  There have been unconfirmed reports of IMail v8 skipping Declude 
processing that we are investigating.

   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] Imail blacklist, phrase list converter

2003-11-17 Thread Matt Robertson
OK, I've completed what I suppose you could call the first version of my 
Imail-to-Declude black- and phrase-list converter.  Get it here:

http://foohbar.com/declude_importer.zip

It turned into a complete ColdFusion application.  The system will 

1. Retrieve source files from ftp.ipswitch.com
2. Convert the url blacklist into a Declude sender blacklist (skipping any entries you 
have placed in a separate skip list)
3. Convert the phrase list into a Declude filter file.  Filters will be created for 
matches in subject and body.
4. FTP the newly minted files to the location you specify.

NOTES:
a. All settings are made in application.cfm, including filter weights.
b. You can use the browser interface (index.cfm) to run all tests in sequence 
automatically, or individually.
c. Since they can be run individually, you can opt to schedule the files to run 
automatically.
d. You have to set up global.cfg and $default$.junkmail to use the new tests and files.
e. With these tests in place, all mail tests take about 250ms per email tested.  
However, this is on MY server with MY configuration.  Your mileage may vary.
f. On a very fast server (dual 2ghz xeon with gobs of ram, super-duper scsi) the 
download/conversion/upload process takes just under three minutes.  Most of this is 
the processing of the 17,000-entry url blacklist.  On a slow server, it takes a lot 
longer.

External dependencies:
1. The app uses the pkzip Command Line tool to unzip the Imail source files.  You can 
alter the batch file and import01.cfm to use whatever command line unzip program you 
use.
2. cf_ProgressMeter is used to display a progress bar.  This is a $5 tool I *highly* 
recommend.  If you don't own it or don't want to buy it just go in and remove the 
calls to it in import02.cfm and import03.cfm.

I'm in the process of rolling out a new web site in the next couple of days.  I'll add 
this and anything else useful I can think of in the spamfighting section.  If anyone 
has improvements to this, please pass 'em on!

Cheers,

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[Declude.JunkMail] Analogs to Imail stuff?

2003-11-17 Thread Matt Robertson
If you couldn't already tell, I'm phasing out my use of some of Imail's anti-spam 
features by moving them into Declude where they can be run more responsibly.

What I want is for Declude to be on the front line, but have Imail bat cleanup if it 
can do things Declude can't.  With that in mind, Imail has the ability to 

Verify MAIL FROM address
Perform a RevDNS on the connecting mail server
Verify HELO/EHLO

and delete (only :( ) at a threshold I specify.

I already use Declude for the reverse DNS.  Can it do the other two somehow?  If not, 
I'd be considering dropping the RevDNS test in Declude and running the Imail versions, 
with a delete if all three hit.  Does this sound like a good, bad or awful idea?

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[Declude.JunkMail] unknown (HELO localhost)

2003-11-17 Thread Danny Klopfer



I notice a lot of 
"unknown (HELO localhost)" in the second received line.Would this ever be 
legit or could I filter on it?


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Anomaly

2003-11-17 Thread Keith Johnson
Does the Declude JunkMail log file show any information about the
E-mail?  There have been unconfirmed reports of IMail v8 skipping Declude
processing that we are investigating

I have a few emails saved that passed through Declude unscanned if they would be 
helpful.

We are starting to see this every now and then.   I'll look in the Declude log for the 
id.  Thanks,

Keith



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