RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New CMD space test info

2004-02-19 Thread Markus Gufler

 For some reason this isn't coming up in the archives (though 
 I know I've seen it)
 
 Can someone shoot me the config line for the new CMDSPACE ?

As I have understand CMDSPACE will be triggered also from every message send
out from MS Outlook 2003 because they don't follow certain rules. Right?

Markus

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] new dow and hour tests

2004-02-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

Now I assume I can use:

HOURhour7   23  -5   5

This should substract 5 points (note: for hold-on-100) between 07:00am and
11:00pm and add a default weight of 5 to any message comming in between
23:00pm and 07:00am.
The one change I would make is to have it read:

HOURhour7   22  -5   5

The 22 will end at 22:59:59.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] new dow and hour tests

2004-02-19 Thread Markus Gufler

On www.zcom.it/decludeupdater/returncodes.pdf you can find a diagram showing
up a tipical variation of messages on our server (ISP, around 1000
mailboxes).

X-line: timerange 00:00am to 12:00pm
Y-line: result of decludes weighting system

Red dots: messages (x:time / y:weight)
Yellow line: hold weight on our server
Blue line: Average value of determined weight

Now (I assume) I can use:

HOURhour7   23  -5   5


This should substract 5 points (note: for hold-on-100) between 07:00am and
11:00pm and add a default weight of 5 to any message comming in between
23:00pm and 07:00am.

Markus




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 How would you add weight to these testes.
 
 Instead of:
 
 HOURhour9   16  0   0
 
 you could use:
 
 HOURhour9   16  3   0
 
 which would add 3 points to any E-mail sent between 9AM and 4:59PM.
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New CMD space test info

2004-02-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
[responding to two posts]

For some reason this isn't coming up in the archives (though I know I've
seen it)
Can someone shoot me the config line for the new CMDSPACE ?
CMDSPACEcmdspacex   x   8   0

 As I have understand CMDSPACE will be triggered also from every message send
 out from MS Outlook 2003 because they don't follow certain rules. Right?
No -- that's the SPAMHEADERS test that Outlook 2003 will fail.

I just checked the CMDSPACE test yesterday on 5,000 legitimate E-mails 
we've received recently, and only 2 failed the CMDSPACE test (both 
apparently because they are using proprietary mailservers).  Even if a MUA 
(mail client) like Outlook has the flaws that the CMDSPACE test looks for, 
it won't be able to fail the test unless it connects directly to your 
mailserver.  So while it is unlikely that any MUAs have this flaw, even if 
they do, it shouldn't affect the usefulness of the test.

This should be a very good test.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.78 (beta) released

2004-02-19 Thread System Administrator
on 2/18/04 2:51 PM, R. Scott Perry wrote:

o JM ADD New test spf added for SPF support.

How do you turn off the separate logs for spf (spf.log and spf.none)?

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[Declude.JunkMail]

2004-02-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Hi 
Scott:

This IP shows up as 
"IANA Reserved" - but it seems to be a dial-up IPrange for Tiscale (a huge 
multi-natioinalEuropean provider).

Received: from 
smtp.webhost.hm-software.com [63.107.174.32] by hm-software.com with 
ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A38E66F1013A; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:09:18 
-0500Received: from dyn-83-154-53-225.ppp.tiscali.fr ([83.154.53.225]) by 
smtp.webhost.hm-software.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); 
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Notes Release 5.07a May 14, 2001X-Originating-IP: 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] new dow and hour tests

2004-02-19 Thread John Carter
Do DOW  HOURS stand alone as individual tests or is there some way they
could be used to run alternate versions of tests which give different
scores (or even run tests that you might not during regular operations)?
Maybe unclear, so example: the percentage of spam to legit mail is
higher on weekends for me, so

Monday-Friday MAILFROM might get 10, NOPOSTMASTER might 1, etc.

But

Sat.-Sunday MAILFROM gets 12 (or whatever), NOPOSTMASTER get 4, etc.

Thanks,
John

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How would you add weight to these testes.

Instead of:

HOURhour9   16  0   0

you could use:

HOURhour9   16  3   0

which would add 3 points to any E-mail sent between 9AM and 4:59PM.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] new dow and hour tests

2004-02-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

Do DOW  HOURS stand alone as individual tests or is there some way they
could be used to run alternate versions of tests which give different
scores (or even run tests that you might not during regular operations)?
They run as individual tests.  There isn't any built-in way to combine 
tests logically (AND/OR/NOT).  The latest beta does let you do an OR with 
filters (for example, a test that will be triggered if either the 
NOPOSTMASTER or NOABUSE test or both fail), using TESTSFAILED.  But I don't 
believe there is a way to do AND currently.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.78 (beta) released

2004-02-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

o JM ADD New test spf added for SPF support.

How do you turn off the separate logs for spf (spf.log and spf.none)?
Not yet.  The spec for SPF still isn't completely frozen yet.  After the 
spec is frozen and we make the necessary changes, we will either remove 
those log files or have an option for disabling them.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail]

2004-02-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

This IP shows up as IANA Reserved - but it seems to be a dial-up IP 
range for Tiscale (a huge multi-natioinal European provider).
If you download the latest all_list.dat file from 
http://www.declude.com/release/178/all_list.dat , it takes care of 
that.  That IP was just delegated less than a month ago.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] new dow and hour tests

2004-02-19 Thread Kami Razvan
Scott:

May be AND can be easily integrated with the new test you have added by
playing with the weights.

Lets say...

==
SKIPIFWEIGHT 10
MAXWEIGHT10

Testsfailed   5 ENDSspamcop
Testsfailed   5 endssorbs
Testsfailed 5   endsanothertest
===

If we can define the test in the global statement that if minimum weight is
not reached then the results is zero weight.  So if in this test we don't
get at least a weight of 10 then the final result weight is 0.  This way we
can ensure that at least 2 tests have to fail before a weight is assigned.

This way we can play with the numbers and create logics that can easily be
manipulated.

Just a thought...

Kami


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Do DOW  HOURS stand alone as individual tests or is there some way 
they could be used to run alternate versions of tests which give 
different scores (or even run tests that you might not during regular
operations)?

They run as individual tests.  There isn't any built-in way to combine tests
logically (AND/OR/NOT).  The latest beta does let you do an OR with filters
(for example, a test that will be triggered if either the NOPOSTMASTER or
NOABUSE test or both fail), using TESTSFAILED.  But I don't believe there is
a way to do AND currently.

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[Declude.JunkMail] something I can add weight on?

2004-02-19 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
I see this in the headers of spam:
 
 Received: from uk2.net (unknown [61.155.209.7])

Is this something I can add weight on? I assume it's a clue. 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New CMD space test info

2004-02-19 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
What version / release do we need to be running to use this test? 

 CMDSPACEcmdspacex   x   8   0

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New CMD space test info

2004-02-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

What version / release do we need to be running to use this test?
See http://www.declude.com/relnotes.htm .  :)

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Combination tests (AND/OR/NOT)

2004-02-19 Thread Matt
R. Scott Perry wrote:

They run as individual tests.  There isn't any built-in way to combine 
tests logically (AND/OR/NOT).  The latest beta does let you do an OR 
with filters (for example, a test that will be triggered if either the 
NOPOSTMASTER or NOABUSE test or both fail), using TESTSFAILED.  But I 
don't believe there is a way to do AND currently.


Since this would be of great utility to us, let me make a suggestion as 
to how to implement this.  There are multiple ways that this could be 
done, however there is one way that would best suit all such needs and 
be the most universal, and that would be done using boolean logic and 
operators like so:

SPAMCOP and ((SORBS-SPAM or XBL or FIVETEN-SPAM) and NOT  CREDIT-FILTER)

This would mean that NOT would be a reserved name for a filter file, and 
you test names shouldn't use parenthesis, but of course you could use a 
curly brace or brackets instead of parenthesis since they're less 
common, otherwise you could allow parenthesis if you first checked for 
if the test name existing before you parsed the operators as shown above.

I suppose that this could be done within the Global.cfg with columns 
added for weights, but that isn't going to be the best way to do it 
because we need the ability to order this for processing within the 
custom filter chain.  Therefore, I would recommend creating the ability 
to add new test definitions on the fly within custom filters like so:

TESTDEF   MYTEST   SPAMCOP and (SORBS-SPAM or XBL or 
FIVETEN-SPAM) and NOT (CREDIT-FILTER)

You could place that anywhere within a custom filter and then 
immediately do tests for it like so.

TESTDEF   MYTEST   SPAMCOP and (SORBS-SPAM or XBL or 
FIVETEN-SPAM) and NOT (CREDIT-FILTER)
TESTSFAILED  10  CONTAINS  MYTEST

I'm not saying that it couldn't be implemented another way, however some 
of my own immediate ideas had limitations as to how and where this could 
be used.  The more limiting ways of doing this would be to either define 
the combo tests within the Global.cfg (because of ordering), or defining 
combo tests in a single custom file (again because of ordering).  This 
way you could for instance have a filter that could fail it's self and 
then kick off a totally different test under certain conditions like so:

- Global.cfg -
COMBO-ZOMBIEfilter 
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Combo-Zombie.txtx  0  0

- Combo-Zombie.txt -
REVDNS   END  ENDSWITH  mx.aol.com
REVDNS   END  ENDSWITH  mail.comcast.net
REVDNS   END  CONTAINS  gateway
REVDNS0ENDSWITH.aol.com
REVDNS0ENDSWITH.comcast.net
REVDNS0ENDSWITH.cable.rogers.com
REVDNS0ENDSWITH.bredband.skanova.com
REVDNS0ENDSWITH.cable.mindspring.com
REVDNS0ENDSWITH.cgocable.ca
TESTDEF   ZOMBIE SPAMCOP and COMBO-ZOMBIE

TESTSFAILED  10  CONTAINS  ZOMBIE

The only caveat is that people would need to keep in mind that the test 
name within the Global.cfg shouldn't be used for a TESTDEF name, unless 
you want to work around that and allow things to be redefined on the fly 
(more work, but would protect from error conditions).

What do you think?

Matt

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New CMD space test info

2004-02-19 Thread Matt
Scott,

The issue uncovered back when this was first released was that mail 
hosts using Declude and CMDSPACE will find that Outlook 2003 mail 
clients will fail CMDSPACE when they use your server as outgoing SMTP in 
a direct connection.  The fix for this is to use IMail 8 and WHITELIST 
AUTH.  Admins using IMail 7 should probably avoid this test unless they 
can bypass scoring such clients.  It appears that all of Microsoft's 
latest generation of clients, even ones used on the Mac, will fail when 
directly connecting to your server.

From watching CMDSPACE, I have found that it is most problematic with 
automated messages, such as postmaster bounces, password retrieval 
scripts and other types of system notifications.  The correlation with 
BADHEADERS isn't large, but if you have SPAMHEADERS scoring for a 
missing Message-ID tag.  There's one piece of spamware that is used by 
legit companies sometimes for newsletters that will fail this test, and 
because of the normal conditions for such a thing being used, there's a 
fairly high correlation of CMDSPACE and HELOBOGUS.

I've been scoring this at 3 points with a hold weight of 10.  It 
definitely causes problems when scored higher.  While it's very 
accurate, especially for zombies, it hits so frequently that you have to 
watch out for issues.  I would suggest dropping the recommended weight 
to 30% of hold weight, or at least being much more conservative.

Matt



R. Scott Perry wrote:

[responding to two posts]

For some reason this isn't coming up in the archives (though I know I've
seen it)
Can someone shoot me the config line for the new CMDSPACE ?


CMDSPACEcmdspacex   x   8   0

 As I have understand CMDSPACE will be triggered also from every 
message send
 out from MS Outlook 2003 because they don't follow certain rules. 
Right?

No -- that's the SPAMHEADERS test that Outlook 2003 will fail.

I just checked the CMDSPACE test yesterday on 5,000 legitimate E-mails 
we've received recently, and only 2 failed the CMDSPACE test (both 
apparently because they are using proprietary mailservers).  Even if a 
MUA (mail client) like Outlook has the flaws that the CMDSPACE test 
looks for, it won't be able to fail the test unless it connects 
directly to your mailserver.  So while it is unlikely that any MUAs 
have this flaw, even if they do, it shouldn't affect the usefulness of 
the test.

This should be a very good test.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Combination tests (AND/OR/NOT)

2004-02-19 Thread Darin Cox
BTW, we could implement all of this AND, OR, NOT functionality currently by

1. Assigning a unique power of 2 weight to every test (e.g. 1, 2, 4, 8, 16,
32, ...)
2. Setting up weightmatch and/or weightrange tests to perform an action for
each desired combination (e.g. weightmatch on a weight of 9 to perform a
unique action on tests that weight 1 and 8, but not 2, 4, 16, 32, ...).

Note that this would work by WARNing, HOLDing, DELETEing, etc. on
combinations of tests rather than a weight threshold, so using a weight of
10 to hold and weight of 15 or 20 to delete would no longer work.  Instead,
you would set an action for each combination that you wanted to take an
action on...basically a subset of 1... (2^N)-1 for N unique tests.

It would probably work best to use lower numbers for less reliable tests to
allow for weightrange actions on high aggregate weights.

It could be a pain to set up and manage, but it would meet all of the AND,
NOT, OR criteria right now.

Darin.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Combination tests (AND/OR/NOT)


R. Scott Perry wrote:

 They run as individual tests.  There isn't any built-in way to combine
 tests logically (AND/OR/NOT).  The latest beta does let you do an OR
 with filters (for example, a test that will be triggered if either the
 NOPOSTMASTER or NOABUSE test or both fail), using TESTSFAILED.  But I
 don't believe there is a way to do AND currently.


Since this would be of great utility to us, let me make a suggestion as
to how to implement this.  There are multiple ways that this could be
done, however there is one way that would best suit all such needs and
be the most universal, and that would be done using boolean logic and
operators like so:

SPAMCOP and ((SORBS-SPAM or XBL or FIVETEN-SPAM) and NOT  CREDIT-FILTER)

This would mean that NOT would be a reserved name for a filter file, and
you test names shouldn't use parenthesis, but of course you could use a
curly brace or brackets instead of parenthesis since they're less
common, otherwise you could allow parenthesis if you first checked for
if the test name existing before you parsed the operators as shown above.

I suppose that this could be done within the Global.cfg with columns
added for weights, but that isn't going to be the best way to do it
because we need the ability to order this for processing within the
custom filter chain.  Therefore, I would recommend creating the ability
to add new test definitions on the fly within custom filters like so:

TESTDEF   MYTEST   SPAMCOP and (SORBS-SPAM or XBL or
FIVETEN-SPAM) and NOT (CREDIT-FILTER)

You could place that anywhere within a custom filter and then
immediately do tests for it like so.


TESTDEF   MYTEST   SPAMCOP and (SORBS-SPAM or XBL or
FIVETEN-SPAM) and NOT (CREDIT-FILTER)
TESTSFAILED  10  CONTAINS  MYTEST


I'm not saying that it couldn't be implemented another way, however some
of my own immediate ideas had limitations as to how and where this could
be used.  The more limiting ways of doing this would be to either define
the combo tests within the Global.cfg (because of ordering), or defining
combo tests in a single custom file (again because of ordering).  This
way you could for instance have a filter that could fail it's self and
then kick off a totally different test under certain conditions like so:

- Global.cfg -
COMBO-ZOMBIEfilter
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Combo-Zombie.txtx  0  0


- Combo-Zombie.txt -
REVDNS   END  ENDSWITH  mx.aol.com
REVDNS   END  ENDSWITH  mail.comcast.net
REVDNS   END  CONTAINS  gateway

REVDNS0ENDSWITH.aol.com
REVDNS0ENDSWITH.comcast.net
REVDNS0ENDSWITH.cable.rogers.com
REVDNS0ENDSWITH.bredband.skanova.com
REVDNS0ENDSWITH.cable.mindspring.com
REVDNS0ENDSWITH.cgocable.ca

TESTDEF   ZOMBIE SPAMCOP and COMBO-ZOMBIE

TESTSFAILED  10  CONTAINS  ZOMBIE


The only caveat is that people would need to keep in mind that the test
name within the Global.cfg shouldn't be used for a TESTDEF name, unless
you want to work around that and allow things to be redefined on the fly
(more work, but would protect from error conditions).

What do you think?


Matt

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[Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-19 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

I know this works for Declude virus but will this work for filter spam
too?  I would suspect that it does but I didn't see it in the
documentation.  

I host email for 11 of 21 school districts.  The remaining 11 host their
own email servers and I would like to filter their email through
Imail/Declude.  They want to host their own email servers... but would
like to take advantage of both the virus and spam filtering offered by
Imail/Declude.

Does anyone have this kind of configuration in place?  Any comments are
appreciated.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New CMD space test info

2004-02-19 Thread Markus Gufler

 The issue uncovered back when this was first released was 
 that mail hosts using Declude and CMDSPACE will find that 
 Outlook 2003 mail clients will fail CMDSPACE when they use 
 your server as outgoing SMTP in a direct connection.  The fix 
 for this is to use IMail 8 and WHITELIST AUTH.  Admins using 
 IMail 7 should probably avoid this test unless they can 
 bypass scoring such clients.  

Ah yes, this was the problem.
After enabling CMDSPACE today I've seen again a lot of false positives. I've
tried to search something that can be wrong on my server or by the clients
that send messages.

Imail 7.15 here and - I asume - over 90% of Outlook users.

CMDSPACE disabled.
Waiting for reason and budget to upgrade to v8.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Failed PERCENT test with no %

2004-02-19 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All,
I have an e-mail that failed the PERCENT test but I can't find any %
symbol in the to addresses.

-
Received: from pop-6.dnv.wideopenwest.com [64.233.207.24] by
american-apex.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-6.06) id A880275019C; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:34:40 -0500
Received: from oemcomputer (d60-65-166-134.col.wideopenwest.com
[65.60.134.166])
 by pop-6.dnv.wideopenwest.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id i1IMYJs09122;
 Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:34:19 -0600
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Theresa [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Shelah [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patti [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   'Patrick' [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Nicholasr [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Natalie [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Marie and Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Jane [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Jim and Missy [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Glenda [EMAIL PROTECTED], Betsy [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Alison [EMAIL PROTECTED], :[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Soccer
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:37:38 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary==_NextPart_000_0077_01C3F645.E6C8C700
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
X-RBL-Warning: PERCENT:
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [64.233.207.24]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned  filtered by Declude [1.75] for SPAM 
viruses.
X-Country-Chain:
X-Note: Recipient(s):  @american-apex.com
X-Note: Sent with HELO [pop-6.dnv.wideopenwest.com] from Reverse DNS
[pop-6.dnv.wideopenwest.com]
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: NOABUSE, NOPOSTMASTER, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT,
PERCENT, WEIGHTRANGE-10+ [13]
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I see what looks like a bogus character in the address :[EMAIL PROTECTED]
but it's not a percent symbol.  Any ideas?  Bug?

Thanks,
Dan Geiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] $default$ Redirect warning when it shouldn't

2004-02-19 Thread James Nelson

If that isn't the case, you may want to temporarily use LOGLEVEL 
HIGH (in the global.cfg file), which will record which config file 
Declude JunkMail is using, which can help track down the problem.


I'll do this and see what I come up with.
The log file is showing the Redirecting email to file 
d:\imail\declude\enabled.junkmail.  This email account isn't listed on 
a REDIRECT line, but looks like we are getting a line that looks like this:

REDIRECT @ d:\imail\declude\enabled.junkmail

Would this catch every email address that comes through?  We are trying 
to debug our program that creates this file, but does anyone know if 
this would cause the problem I'm having?

Thanks for the help,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-19 Thread Keith Johnson
Samantha,
We have had this type of setup in place for years, works great.
We filter tons of email for Exchange, Domino, and other SMTP Servers.
Let me know if I can give aid.

Keith 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges,
Samantha
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other
servers

Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

I know this works for Declude virus but will this work for filter spam
too?  I would suspect that it does but I didn't see it in the
documentation.  

I host email for 11 of 21 school districts.  The remaining 11 host their
own email servers and I would like to filter their email through
Imail/Declude.  They want to host their own email servers... but would
like to take advantage of both the virus and spam filtering offered by
Imail/Declude.

Does anyone have this kind of configuration in place?  Any comments are
appreciated.

Samantha

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combination tests (AND/OR/NOT)

2004-02-19 Thread Markus Gufler


 Since this would be of great utility to us, let me make a 
 suggestion as to how to implement this.  There are multiple 
 ways that this could be done, however there is one way that 
 would best suit all such needs and be the most universal, and 
 that would be done using boolean logic and operators like so:
 
 SPAMCOP and ((SORBS-SPAM or XBL or FIVETEN-SPAM) and NOT  
 CREDIT-FILTER)

Hehe, practicaly my words from last week:
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail%40declude.com/msg16114.html

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

I know this works for Declude virus but will this work for filter spam
too?  I would suspect that it does but I didn't see it in the
documentation.
Will gateway (store-and-forward) domains get scanned?

Yes. However, IMail treats those domains as outgoing E-mail, since they are 
not stored locally. Therefore, the outgoing actions (from the 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg file) will be used. If you want to use different 
actions for the gateway domains, you can set up per-domain settings for the 
domain.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-19 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Does this solution filter both spam and viruses?  

What about the rules via Imail...they don't run do they???

I user a lot of rules to block email and with this solution they could
not take advantage of rules.ima, right?



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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other
servers


Samantha,
We have had this type of setup in place for years, works great.
We filter tons of email for Exchange, Domino, and other SMTP Servers.
Let me know if I can give aid.

Keith 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges,
Samantha
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other
servers

Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

I know this works for Declude virus but will this work for filter spam
too?  I would suspect that it does but I didn't see it in the
documentation.  

I host email for 11 of 21 school districts.  The remaining 11 host their
own email servers and I would like to filter their email through
Imail/Declude.  They want to host their own email servers... but would
like to take advantage of both the virus and spam filtering offered by
Imail/Declude.

Does anyone have this kind of configuration in place?  Any comments are
appreciated.

Samantha

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Failed PERCENT test with no %

2004-02-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

I have an e-mail that failed the PERCENT test but I can't find any %
symbol in the to addresses.
The PERCENT test catches a couple of other deprecated routing schemes, 
including:

:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The colon there can be used to improperly re-route E-mail.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] $default$ Redirect warning when it shouldn't

2004-02-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

The log file is showing the Redirecting email to file 
d:\imail\declude\enabled.junkmail.  This email account isn't listed on a 
REDIRECT line, but looks like we are getting a line that looks like this:

REDIRECT @ d:\imail\declude\enabled.junkmail

Would this catch every email address that comes through?
As far as I know, that would redirect all E-mail to the 
d:\imail\declude\enabled.junkmail file.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-19 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All,
I've never been able to get the Store and Forward capability of IMail to
work so I could relay mail and scan external domains.  Is there anyone who
has this setup who would be willing to lend me a hand?

TIA,
Dan Geiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I know this works for Declude virus but will this work for filter spam
 too?  I would suspect that it does but I didn't see it in the
 documentation.

 Will gateway (store-and-forward) domains get scanned?

 Yes. However, IMail treats those domains as outgoing E-mail, since they
are
 not stored locally. Therefore, the outgoing actions (from the
 \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file) will be used. If you want to use different
 actions for the gateway domains, you can set up per-domain settings for
the
 domain.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Emails in Use Lists

2004-02-19 Thread R. Lee Heath
Reply to: R. Scott Perry
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] $default$  Redirect warning when it shouldn't on 
Thursday 2:29:31 PM

I know this is to redirect to a configuration, but I have a somewhat
related question, I think...

I would like to know how to make a list of email addresses actually
passing mail through my system of a select domain. For example, for
the domain.com I'd like a list generated of mails actually in use on
my system in a text file:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
etc.

On store and forward I have no easy way to generate a list of accounts
passing mail through my system. This would be very useful for billing
purposes..

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The log file is showing the Redirecting email to file 
d:\imail\declude\enabled.junkmail.  This email account isn't listed on a
REDIRECT line, but looks like we are getting a line that looks like this:

REDIRECT @ d:\imail\declude\enabled.junkmail

Would this catch every email address that comes through?

RSP As far as I know, that would redirect all E-mail to the 
RSP d:\imail\declude\enabled.junkmail file.

RSP -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-19 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Correct, they will not have access to Imail rules. However, as someone else
said, it works well. I do e-mail gateway service for 2 accounts, and I do
all the spam and virus scanning via Declude. I have no Imail rules in place.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, Samantha
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:23 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other
 servers
 
 Does this solution filter both spam and viruses?
 
 What about the rules via Imail...they don't run do they???
 
 I user a lot of rules to block email and with this solution they could
 not take advantage of rules.ima, right?
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Keith Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:59 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other
 servers
 
 
 Samantha,
   We have had this type of setup in place for years, works great.
 We filter tons of email for Exchange, Domino, and other SMTP Servers.
 Let me know if I can give aid.
 
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges,
 Samantha
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other
 servers
 
 Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers
 
 I know this works for Declude virus but will this work for filter spam
 too?  I would suspect that it does but I didn't see it in the
 documentation.
 
 I host email for 11 of 21 school districts.  The remaining 11 host their
 own email servers and I would like to filter their email through
 Imail/Declude.  They want to host their own email servers... but would
 like to take advantage of both the virus and spam filtering offered by
 Imail/Declude.
 
 Does anyone have this kind of configuration in place?  Any comments are
 appreciated.
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] BLACKLIST FOR OUTGOING MAIL

2004-02-19 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Hello.

I am setting up a blacklist for outgoing mail.  I created a file named
blacklist.txt.  In the Global.cfg file I put an entry in the Outgoing
Mail section to:  blacklist   HOLD  and blacklist fromfile
c:\imail\declude\blacklist.txt x 5 0

When I send a message from the account that is blacklisted in the
blacklist.txt file, I can see in the headers that it shows that it
failed the spam test but it is still getting through.  It is either not
reading the blacklist.txt file or it is not recognizing the action to
take.  I attached my blacklist.txt file for viewing.  

Please help.

Thanks.
@attws.com Mark Cummins wanted this site blocked 042403
@cancun.rbexpress.org Sam kept getting this
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-19 Thread Keith Johnson
Samantha,
I don't believe the rules.ima files would work due to there are
no actually mailboxes stored on your Imail server in a Gateway config,
thus it doesn't have any mailbox processing tied to it, i.e. rules
files, storage.  The beauty is, Declude setup in a per-domain config,
will allow spam and virus filtering against those domains, you can even
take it to the user level if necessary.  Thus, you can configure Declude
to tag spam, routeto another mailbox for spam lookups, etc.  May take
some work to transfer some of your rules.ima into Declude and let it do
the work.  

Keith 

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Samantha
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servers

Does this solution filter both spam and viruses?  

What about the rules via Imail...they don't run do they???

I user a lot of rules to block email and with this solution they could
not take advantage of rules.ima, right?



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Samantha,
We have had this type of setup in place for years, works great.
We filter tons of email for Exchange, Domino, and other SMTP Servers.
Let me know if I can give aid.

Keith 

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Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

I know this works for Declude virus but will this work for filter spam
too?  I would suspect that it does but I didn't see it in the
documentation.  

I host email for 11 of 21 school districts.  The remaining 11 host their
own email servers and I would like to filter their email through
Imail/Declude.  They want to host their own email servers... but would
like to take advantage of both the virus and spam filtering offered by
Imail/Declude.

Does anyone have this kind of configuration in place?  Any comments are
appreciated.

Samantha

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BLACKLIST FOR OUTGOING MAIL

2004-02-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

I am setting up a blacklist for outgoing mail.  I created a file named
blacklist.txt.  In the Global.cfg file I put an entry in the Outgoing
Mail section to:  blacklist   HOLD  and blacklist fromfile
c:\imail\declude\blacklist.txt x 5 0
Actually, the BLACKLIST HOLD line needs to come after the other 
line.  The first time Declude JunkMail sees a new test name in the 
global.cfg file, it expects the test definition to occur on that line.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-19 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
If it is not urgent, contact me off list and I can help. May take me some
time to get back to you on it.

John Tolmachoff
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eServices For You


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
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 Hello, All,
 I've never been able to get the Store and Forward capability of IMail to
 work so I could relay mail and scan external domains.  Is there anyone who
 has this setup who would be willing to lend me a hand?
 
 TIA,
 Dan Geiser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I know this works for Declude virus but will this work for filter spam
  too?  I would suspect that it does but I didn't see it in the
  documentation.
 
  Will gateway (store-and-forward) domains get scanned?
 
  Yes. However, IMail treats those domains as outgoing E-mail, since they
 are
  not stored locally. Therefore, the outgoing actions (from the
  \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file) will be used. If you want to use
 different
  actions for the gateway domains, you can set up per-domain settings for
 the
  domain.
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Pseudo AND work around

2004-02-19 Thread Matt
Scott,

Could you tell me the format of the new TESTSFAILED values as used in 
the filters.  There's a work around that can be done if you search for a 
string with multiple tests in it, i.e.

TESTSFAILED  10  CONTAINS  SPAMCOP,XBL

I understand the ordering issue, and I'm thinking that you could work 
around this by defining one line filter files that appear in your config 
in order like so:

- Global.cfg -
SPAMCOP-COPYfilter 
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\SpamCop-Copy.txtx  0  0
XBL-COPY   filter 
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\XBL-Copy.txtx  0  0
ZOMBIEfilter 
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Zombie.txt  x  0  0

- SpamCop-Copy.txt -
TESTSFAILED  0  CONTAINS  SPAMCOP
- XBL-Copy.txt -
TESTSFAILED  0  CONTAINS  XBL
- Zombie.txt -
TESTSFAILED  20  CONTAINS  SPAMCOP-COPY,XBL-COPY
The only missing piece to this would be knowing how the values are 
separated for the string.

Thanks,

Matt

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Pseudo AND work around

2004-02-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

Could you tell me the format of the new TESTSFAILED values as used in the 
filters.
Each test that failed is listed in the order they are listed in the 
global.cfg file, each separated by a space.

There's a work around that can be done if you search for a string with 
multiple tests in it, i.e.

TESTSFAILED  10  CONTAINS  SPAMCOP,XBL
So here you could use:

TESTSFAILED  10  CONTAINS  SPAMCOP XBL

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Pseudo AND work around

2004-02-19 Thread Matt
Thanks Scott.  BTW, one can also pull off OR and NOT functionality doing 
this trick, though it's cumbersome once you get into multiple operators.

I'll have something to share later on today :)

Matt



R. Scott Perry wrote:


Could you tell me the format of the new TESTSFAILED values as used in 
the filters.


Each test that failed is listed in the order they are listed in the 
global.cfg file, each separated by a space.

There's a work around that can be done if you search for a string 
with multiple tests in it, i.e.

TESTSFAILED  10  CONTAINS  SPAMCOP,XBL


So here you could use:

TESTSFAILED  10  CONTAINS  SPAMCOP XBL

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[Declude.JunkMail] Fw: iMail 8.05 LDAP service remote exploit

2004-02-19 Thread Joshua Levitsky
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:04 AM
Subject: iMail 8.05 LDAP service remote exploit


 iMail 8.05 LDAP service remote exploit can be found at:
 http://www.coromputer.net


 Iván Rodriguez Almuiña
 aka kralor
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 http://www.coromputer.net


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: iMail 8.05 LDAP service remote exploit

2004-02-19 Thread Bill Landry
8.05 Hotfix 2 Details:
- Fixes a possible LDAP Denial of Service vulnerability

Bill
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:04 AM
Subject: iMail 8.05 LDAP service remote exploit


 iMail 8.05 LDAP service remote exploit can be found at:
 http://www.coromputer.net


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[Declude.JunkMail] ZOMBIE v1.0.0 for Declude JunkMail Pro v1.78 beta ---

2004-02-19 Thread Matt




This only works with Pro versions of the 1.78 beta just released
yesterday.

It didn't take but a minute or so for this test to start adding some
significant points to E-mail on my system. The idea here is to give
extra points to messages that fail certain combinations of tests. XBL
and SPAMCOP are a great way to mark zombies, but they aren't on their
own reliable enough to delete on. On the other hand, a message that
fails SPAMDOMAINS and XBL, or NAJBL-DYNA and SPAMCOP is a near perfect
hit for zombie generated spam. In the very least this will push
messages from HOLD or (or below HOLD) to your DELETE range (or whatever
you might want to call your levels).

The logic of this test in the default configuration is as follows:

 If (
  SPAMCOP and (XBL or SPAMDOMAINS or AHBL-DUL or NJABL-DUL or
NJABL-DYNA or SORBS-DUL or BASE64) or
  XBL and (SPAMCOP or SPAMDOMAINS or AHBL-DUL or NJABL-DUL or
NJABL-DYNA or SORBS-DUL or BASE64)
   )
 Then add 15 points.

I actually have a few more tests configured on my system for the long
trail of OR operators. Be creative. Also, be sure that you check
the test names that I provided against the ones that you might be
using on your system, and of course make sure that everything is
defined.

You can download the newest version of ZOMBIE and other beta filters
from the following location:

 http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/beta/

Please return the favor and share with me any FP's that you see on this
test so that I can make adjustments for the benefit of myself as well
as others.

Thanks,

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Tom's Kill List

2004-02-19 Thread Tom

 Question, Tom, is
 
 .georgewbush.comID-20040121-001584
 
 an oversight? Just had to ask this... ;)

I'd rather not say.

Regards,
Tom
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Tom's Kill List (another erroneous entry)

2004-02-19 Thread Tom

 Another incorrect entry is this one:
 
 @ltgsys.com   ID-20040121-000433
 
 This is a company called Lighting Systems and is one of our business
 partners.
 
 Please fix.

That's a matter of opinion, however, I will remove it for now.
If I see more from them again, then I will place them back into 
the list.  This usually means that they were compromised or
someone is abusing their domain name.  Either way it would have 
to be dealt with one way or another.  

Keep in mind the list is not a public list.  We do allow
others (in the Declude forum) to use it.  We strongly 
recommend you use it with a weighing system (such as Declude Pro) 
and one that does not delete solely based on our fromfile.  

With all that said, please use the list at your own risk.


PS: An update has been posted and can be downloaded from the following URLs:
http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog/daily.txt
http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog/fromfile.txt


Best Regards,
Tom
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[Declude.JunkMail] Blocking virus bounce messages

2004-02-19 Thread Kyle Fisher








I am sure you have talked about this before, but is there
any way in junkmail to block virus notifications from other servers.



My users are getting tons of undeliverable messages that
they never sent due to outside users infected with viruses.



Any help would be appreciated



Kyle