[Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Test

2004-05-10 Thread Jeff Maze
This is only a test


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Odd error - bogus Message-ID header???

2004-05-10 Thread Matt
Scott,

Is this something new(er)?  In the very least I have never noticed this 
before. My traffic patterns have changed significantly over the last 
couple of months though and this might be contributing to my confusion.  
BTW, sorry about the linking code, Netscape pasted that in as HTML 
instead of as plain text like I usually try to do it.

I'm now also seeing errors related to a bad Subject: header???  In 
this case it is seemingly related to multiple spaces that appear at the 
end or near the end of the subject.  This is essentially causing a 
double hit for this as I am already using SUBJECTSPACES to progressively 
add more and more points.  Then again, I might have never noticed this 
before.

Please advise if you in fact have made these changes and possibly others 
to either test.

Thanks,

Matt

(Note that the Subject in the first example is word-wrapping, but in the 
source all sits on one line)

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R. Scott Perry wrote:


Something odd is happening here.  I've now seen two 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Odd error - bogus Message-ID header???

2004-05-10 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is this something new(er)?
I don't believe so.

I'm now also seeing errors related to a bad Subject: header???  In this 
case it is seemingly related to multiple spaces that appear at the end or 
near the end of the subject.  This is essentially causing a double hit for 
this as I am already using SUBJECTSPACES to progressively add more and 
more points.  Then again, I might have never noticed this before.
If there are at least 5 spaces in the Subject: header, followed by a string 
of less than 8 characters, it triggers the SPAMHEADERS test.  That has been 
around since at least v1.60.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Odd error - bogus Message-ID header???

2004-05-10 Thread Matt
Interesting...and thanks for the explanation.  I think I'm going to cut 
some points off of my SUBJECTSPACES tests then.  It does help when you 
can make informed decisions.

Matt



Matt wrote:

Scott,

Is this something new(er)?  In the very least I have never noticed 
this before. My traffic patterns have changed significantly over the 
last couple of months though and this might be contributing to my 
confusion.  BTW, sorry about the linking code, Netscape pasted that in 
as HTML instead of as plain text like I usually try to do it.

I'm now also seeing errors related to a bad Subject: header???  In 
this case it is seemingly related to multiple spaces that appear at 
the end or near the end of the subject.  This is essentially causing a 
double hit for this as I am already using SUBJECTSPACES to 
progressively add more and more points.  Then again, I might have 
never noticed this before.

Please advise if you in fact have made these changes and possibly 
others to either test.

Thanks,

Matt

(Note that the Subject in the first example is word-wrapping, but in 
the source all sits on one line)

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Test

2004-05-10 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Pong

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Authors of Sasser and Phatbot arrested

2004-05-10 Thread Matt
I just read that they suspect this is also the same guy that wrote the 
Netsky virus:

   
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/05/10/sasser.arrest.reut/index.html
   Microsoft general counsel Brad Smith said the suspect was believed 
responsible for the creation of all 28 variants of the Netsky virus.

I had also read earlier something that said the author of Netsky was 
boasting about similar code in Sasser to prove the connection.  This 
goes to show you how weak the Internet really is with a 17 year old in 
the basement of a house in a small German town can wreak havoc across 
the world and cause billions of dollars in damage.  Seems to me that we 
ain't seen nothing yet since almost everything to date has been from 
similarly deranged individuals and not some sort of organized effort, 
and every last host out there is vulnerable in one way or another.

Matt



Colbeck, Andrew wrote:

http://www.securitynewsportal.com/cgi-bin/cgi-script/csNews/csNews.cgi?datab
ase=JanEE%2edbcommand=viewoneid=15
Both in Germany, and in seemingly unrelated incidents.  Whoever informed on
the Sasser author to Microsoft may see a payout of a quarter of a million
dollars.
Andrew 8)
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[Declude.JunkMail] Country Code for Palestine?

2004-05-10 Thread Dan Geiser



All,
Does anyone know what the Country Code for 
Palestine is? I just received an e-mail which Declude's X-COUNTRY-CHAIN 
identified as Palestine yet the "official" country code list, http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm, 
makes no mention of Palestine.

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country Code for Palestine?

2004-05-10 Thread R. Scott Perry

Does anyone know what the Country Code for Palestine is?  I just received 
an e-mail which Declude's X-COUNTRY-CHAIN identified as Palestine yet the 
official country code list, 
http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htmhttp://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm, 
makes no mention of Palestine.
It's ps.  Note that there may be some countries that do not have their 
own ccTLD, but that may have Internet access available to them (so they 
would not appear at the IANA URL).

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country Code for Palestine?

2004-05-10 Thread Dan Geiser



Thanks, Markus. But your file didn't contain 
the country code for Palestine.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Markus Gufler 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 12:16 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country 
  Code for Palestine?
  
  Hi Dan,
  
  Attached you can find a NON WORKING country filter 
  file. At the end of every line you can find the full name of the 
  country.
  
  Markus
  
  
  


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan 
GeiserSent: Monday, May 10, 2004 4:25 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
[Declude.JunkMail] Country Code for Palestine?

All,
Does anyone know what the Country Code for 
Palestine is? I just received an e-mail which Declude's 
X-COUNTRY-CHAIN identified as Palestine yet the "official" country code 
list, http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm, 
makes no mention of Palestine.

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country Code for Palestine?

2004-05-10 Thread Markus Gufler




COUNTRIES20CONTAINSps # Occupied 
Palestinian Territories (i.e., West Bank and Gaza Strip)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan 
  GeiserSent: Monday, May 10, 2004 6:35 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country 
  Code for Palestine?
  
  Thanks, Markus. But your file didn't 
  contain the country code for Palestine.


OT- Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country Code for Palestine?

2004-05-10 Thread Rick Davidson
Interesting, IANA recognizes them as a country, sure would be nice if Israel
and the rest of the non cyber world did to.


Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group

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 Does anyone know what the Country Code for Palestine is?  I just received
 an e-mail which Declude's X-COUNTRY-CHAIN identified as Palestine yet the
 official country code list,

http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htmhttp://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-
whois.htm,
 makes no mention of Palestine.

 It's ps.  Note that there may be some countries that do not have their
 own ccTLD, but that may have Internet access available to them (so they
 would not appear at the IANA URL).

 -Scott
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RE: OT- Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country Code for Palestine?

2004-05-10 Thread Markus Gufler

 Interesting, IANA recognizes them as a country, sure would be 
 nice if Israel and the rest of the non cyber world did to.

As I know Isreal in the meantime does recognize Palestine. 
The question is only how large PS is.

...and if things continue like last months if there will remain someone who
can write emails from those countries.  :-|

Markus


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country Code for Palestine?

2004-05-10 Thread Todd Holt









Thats interesting I thought
their country code would be more representative of Palenstine.
Perhaps .ter
for terrorists! ;) 





Todd Holt

Xidix Technologies, Inc

Las Vegas, NV USA

702.319.4349

www.xidix.com





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Country Code for Palestine?





COUNTRIES20CONTAINSps
# Occupied Palestinian Territories (i.e., West Bank and Gaza Strip)













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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Country Code for Palestine?



Thanks, Markus. But your file
didn't contain the country code for Palestine.












Re: [Declude.JunkMail] messages from declude list marked as spam

2004-05-10 Thread R. Scott Perry

My messages from Declude are being caught as spam.
Failing NJABL-DYNA, and DUL
Robert:

MAPS says that our new IP is not listed in DUL.  Are you paying for their 
service?  If not, you should remove the test (otherwise, they might list 
all IPs or randomly list IPs or whatever).

   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] How to credit e-mails with attachments

2004-05-10 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi,

I am seeing e-mails with base64 attachments such as PowerPoint, Word,
Excel etc and because it is encoded the gibberish that is produced ends
up hitting a Prescription Drug filter. Specifically HGH. 

Now other than removing that line from the filter how can I credit an
e-mail with an attachment?  There is 

Content-Type: application/msword;

Which I could key on? I would also have to add one for Excel etc. So is
the following correct?

HEADERS -10 CONTAINS Content-Type: application/msword; 

Is there a better way to do this?

Thanx


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How to credit e-mails with attachments

2004-05-10 Thread Scott Fisher
One thing you could do is to put a space after the HGH to make it match HGH(Space).

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/04 02:53PM 
Hi,

I am seeing e-mails with base64 attachments such as PowerPoint, Word,
Excel etc and because it is encoded the gibberish that is produced ends
up hitting a Prescription Drug filter. Specifically HGH. 

Now other than removing that line from the filter how can I credit an
e-mail with an attachment?  There is 

Content-Type: application/msword;

Which I could key on? I would also have to add one for Excel etc. So is
the following correct?

HEADERS -10 CONTAINS Content-Type: application/msword; 

Is there a better way to do this?

Thanx


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] messages from declude list marked as spam

2004-05-10 Thread Matt
Scott,

This is the old EASYNET-DYNA zone that they picked up after EASYNET was 
no more.  This is by far the most complete and accurate freely available 
DUL list out there.  I can't recall ever seeing a commercial IP on the 
list, but of course there are changes to IP space all the time.  I've 
tried out something like 8 different DUL lists, but I dropped half of 
them because they would do things like list DSL space.  I'm pretty sure 
that listing non-residential space isn't their goal, and a note sent to 
them ought to clear things up rather quickly.  It would probably be 
better coming from you, but I don't mind giving it a shot if you're not 
interested.

SORBS-DUHL is another story.  They don't have the hit rate of 
NJABL-DYNA, but I have never noted a non-residential IP as a hit on that 
test.  The problem with SORBS is that they are over zealous with their 
other listings, and they will produce multiple hits for open proxies on 
2 or maybe 3 tests sometimes, and they don't respond to removal requests 
for those things.  They do however have a more open policy for desisting 
DUHL listings where the user can request it:

   http://www.dnsbl.us.sorbs.net/DUL-FAQ.html

Could it be that Charter re-purposed a block to commercial class IP's, 
or maybe they're mixing them now???  Senderbase shows two currently 
active spam zombies on the same class C as your IP:

   http://www.senderbase.org/search?searchString=68.186.245.0

There are 3 others that are also still listed in XBL, however no traffic 
is shown in the last day.  That's very typical of a residential-class 
broadband class C to have 5 or maybe 6 zombies.  Maybe they shouldn't 
have put your server in that block, or like I said, maybe they're mixing???

Matt



R. Scott Perry wrote:


My messages from Declude are being caught as spam.
Failing NJABL-DYNA, and DUL


Robert:

MAPS says that our new IP is not listed in DUL.  Are you paying for 
their service?  If not, you should remove the test (otherwise, they 
might list all IPs or randomly list IPs or whatever).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] messages from declude list marked as spam

2004-05-10 Thread R. Scott Perry
 MAPS says that our new IP is not listed in DUL.  Are you paying for 
their service?
  If not, you should remove the test (otherwise, they might list all IPs 
or randomly list IPs or whatever).

This is the old EASYNET-DYNA zone that they picked up after EASYNET was no 
more.
Actually, DUL is the test run by MAPS.  Any other test using the name DUL 
runs the risk of being sued by MAPS (that's why DUHL or DYNA is 
normally now used instead of DUL).

Interestingly, DUL (MAPS) is the only one of the three that has responded 
so far.  It was a complete waste of their time, though, since they had not 
listed us (our customer made a mistake) -- but it could have been avoided 
if they had been willing to allow www.DNSstuff.com to get the proper access 
to their databases.

This is by far the most complete and accurate freely available DUL list 
out there.  I can't recall ever seeing a commercial IP on the list, but of 
course there are changes to IP space all the time.  I've tried out 
something like 8 different DUL lists, but I dropped half of them because 
they would do things like list DSL space.  I'm pretty sure that listing 
non-residential space isn't their goal, and a note sent to them ought to 
clear things up rather quickly.
This sounds like NJABL-DYNA.  According to their information, they will not 
remove us, and I'm guessing they will not.  Interestingly, though, Easynet 
was willing to remove our IP, back when they ran it.  We'll see what they 
say, though.

SORBS-DUHL is another story.
According to their information, they probably won't remove us either.  But, 
again, we'll see.

Could it be that Charter re-purposed a block to commercial class IP's, or 
maybe they're mixing them now???  Senderbase shows two currently active 
spam zombies on the same class C as your IP:

   http://www.senderbase.org/search?searchString=68.186.245.0

There are 3 others that are also still listed in XBL, however no traffic 
is shown in the last day.  That's very typical of a residential-class 
broadband class C to have 5 or maybe 6 zombies.  Maybe they shouldn't have 
put your server in that block, or like I said, maybe they're mixing???
We really don't care, to be honest.  :)

If there was another high speed option in this area, that would be one 
thing.  But with no alternatives, we [1] don't need to care (since we can't 
just switch to another provider), and [2] can't push charter on this issue, 
as we can't risk them cutting our access.

Note that we *could* pull some strings in either case, and almost certainly 
get de-listed.  But when it comes to spam databases, we refuse to do that 
-- if a customer of ours is in the exact same situation as us and can't get 
removed, we shouldn't be removed either.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How to credit e-mails with attachments

2004-05-10 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Thank you. I looked through some older messages and found the same
answer.


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
 Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 4:19 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How to credit e-mails with attachments
 
 One thing you could do is to put a space after the HGH to make it
match
 HGH(Space).
 
 Scott Fisher
 Director of IT
 Farm Progress Companies
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/04 02:53PM 
 Hi,
 
 I am seeing e-mails with base64 attachments such as PowerPoint, Word,
 Excel etc and because it is encoded the gibberish that is produced
ends
 up hitting a Prescription Drug filter. Specifically HGH.
 
 Now other than removing that line from the filter how can I credit an
 e-mail with an attachment?  There is
 
 Content-Type: application/msword;
 
 Which I could key on? I would also have to add one for Excel etc. So
is
 the following correct?
 
 HEADERS -10 CONTAINS Content-Type: application/msword;
 
 Is there a better way to do this?
 
 Thanx
 
 
 
  Goran Jovanovic
  The LAN Shoppe
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] messages from declude list marked as spam

2004-05-10 Thread R. Scott Perry

This sounds like NJABL-DYNA.  According to their information, they will 
not remove us, and I'm guessing they will not.  Interestingly, though, 
Easynet was willing to remove our IP, back when they ran it.  We'll see 
what they say, though.
No need for a response from NJABL -- they are refusing to accept our mail 
to their removal address (a temporary failure for 10 hours from their 
primary mailserver; their backup would have outright refused the E-mail if 
our mailserver hit it).  So it is safe to say that NJABL is willing to 
accept false positives.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] messages from declude list marked as spam

2004-05-10 Thread serge
OK, the messages from this list are scoring between 10 and 15
Wants to add a -10 to my negative filter file
what is the easiest/fastest/safest line to add to the filter ?
IP , REVDNS, Helo ... ?



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Subject: [SpamIndex=12]Re: [Declude.JunkMail] messages from declude list
marked as spam



 This sounds like NJABL-DYNA.  According to their information, they will
 not remove us, and I'm guessing they will not.  Interestingly, though,
 Easynet was willing to remove our IP, back when they ran it.  We'll see
 what they say, though.

 No need for a response from NJABL -- they are refusing to accept our mail
 to their removal address (a temporary failure for 10 hours from their
 primary mailserver; their backup would have outright refused the E-mail if
 our mailserver hit it).  So it is safe to say that NJABL is willing to
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] messages from declude list marked as spam

2004-05-10 Thread Bill Landry
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From: serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 OK, the messages from this list are scoring between 10 and 15
 Wants to add a -10 to my negative filter file
 what is the easiest/fastest/safest line to add to the filter ?
 IP , REVDNS, Helo ... ?

The best/safest options is:
REMOTEIP  -10  IS  68.186.245.124

Second best option is:
REVDNS  -10  IS  cpe-68-186-245-124.ma.charter.com

And third best options would be either:
HELO  -10  IS  declude.com

or:
SUBJECT  -10  CONTAINS  [Declude.JunkMail]
SUBJECT  -10  CONTAINS  [Declude.Virus]

However, these last three options are easy to forge.

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Re: [SpamIndex=16]Re: [Declude.JunkMail] messages from declude list marked as spam

2004-05-10 Thread Serge
thank you
just wanted to be sure that IP is the safest

Now Scott needs to notify us for future IP change of his mail server


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marked as spam


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 From: serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  OK, the messages from this list are scoring between 10 and 15
  Wants to add a -10 to my negative filter file
  what is the easiest/fastest/safest line to add to the filter ?
  IP , REVDNS, Helo ... ?

 The best/safest options is:
 REMOTEIP  -10  IS  68.186.245.124

 Second best option is:
 REVDNS  -10  IS  cpe-68-186-245-124.ma.charter.com

 And third best options would be either:
 HELO  -10  IS  declude.com

 or:
 SUBJECT  -10  CONTAINS  [Declude.JunkMail]
 SUBJECT  -10  CONTAINS  [Declude.Virus]

 However, these last three options are easy to forge.

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[Declude.JunkMail] IP change? Declude

2004-05-10 Thread Kami Razvan



Scott:

Have you changed 
the IP address for your server? I had the REVDNS for your server 
whitelisted and now everything with the forum is being caught as 
spam.

Your IP is 
listed..
X-RBL-Warning: 
FIVETEN-SPAM: 124.245.186.68.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.X-RBL-Warning: 
NJABL-DYNA: "Dynamic/Residential IP range listed by NJABL dynablock - http://njabl.org/dynablock.html"X-RBL-Warning: 
SORBS-DUL: "Dynamic IP Address See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=68.186.245.124"

Your 
IP:
X-Note: Server 
Name: declude.comX-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Note: 
Reverse DNS  IP: cpe-68-186-245-124.ma.charter.com 
[68.186.245.124]

Is this temporary 
or should we add this to our whitelist now?

Regards,
Kami


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] messages from declude list marked as spam

2004-05-10 Thread R. Scott Perry

My messages from Declude are being caught as spam.
Failing NJABL-DYNA, and DUL
Anybody else having this problem? Started a couple of days ago.
That's because we were assigned a new IP.  Note that NJABL-DYNA lists 
static IPs (such as ours), and does not allow legitimate mailservers to be 
removed, so it should be assigned a low weight.  I wasn't aware that DUL 
was still around, but it looks like they may remove IPs that aren't 
appropriately listed, so we will contact them about removal.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Odd error - bogus Message-ID header???

2004-05-10 Thread R. Scott Perry

Something odd is happening here.  I've now seen two recent false positives 
where the BADHEADER error code, 8004000e, relates to a Bogus Message-ID 
header when looked up with your tool.  From what I can see, the 
Message-ID headers were both fine (one example is included below).  Also 
note that I am using LOOSENSPAMHEADERS ON although that should have no 
bearing on this.  I am running 1.79i6 Pro.  Please advise.

Message-ID: 
newmsg.cgi?mbx=Credit[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
The issue here is that benntilesrvr1.bhot.servr1 isn't a valid hostname, 
and almost certainly never will be.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Stop the test messages...and replies!

2004-05-10 Thread Darin Cox



Can someone clue me in as to why people send test 
messages to the list, and then why others reply to the _entire_ list, instead of 
just to the individual?

If you have to reply, how about replying only to the individual?
Darin.