Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
Don, Your license to run the software does not expire. What does expire is your right to download new updates of the software. David Franco-Rocha Declude Technical / Engineering - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue David, Thanks for the response but I only understand part of your answer. An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run the software. I know when I have an expired license agreement but when does my license to run the software expire? Don - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run the software. It simply does not allow you to update the software, but you can continue to run the version you have been running. David Franco-Rocha Declude Technical / Engineering - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue I too have stayed at the 1.82 version while keeping my service contract up to date. I am not ambitious enough to work through all the 2.x and 3.x issues. A heart felt thank you goes out to those of you who are. With the new licensing policy in 3.x, what happens when I decide not to renew the service agreement? Will all the Declude software I have stop working? Am I paying for it's usage only while I have a valid service agreement? It used to be that the service agreement allowed me major version upgrades when they were available without paying an additional fee. Am I now paying for a license to use the software? Don - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue Bottom line is we were told if the license server was offline we would not be impacted. It is seeming now that that statement was not true, though I should withhold judgement until we hear exactly why this had an impact. Very glad I've stuck with 1.82 at the moment, though we had a service agreement that entitled us to upgrade to 3.x. I would certainly like to know what will be done to the software licensing to make sure this problem does not happen again. Otherwise, since mail is considered a critical system, Declude needs to staff 24/7 to address problems as they arise. Darin. - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:50 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue True, very true. But like Andy or Darrell said, they should have done a test by pulling the plug on their license server during the week when they were watching it to see what would happen. But of course, hind sight is always 20/20 and Monday morning quarterbacking is highly overrated. ;-) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 12:44 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue Software and hardware breaks. Nothing is bulletproof. Some are just better than others. Monday, December 26, 2005, 11:50:20 AM, John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JTL JTL JTL JTL OUCH! JTL JTL JTL JTL Gee, I thought this is the kind of thing that we were told no way would happen. JTL JTL JTL JTL JTL John T JTL JTL eServices For You JTL JTL JTL JTL JTL JTL -Original Message- JTL From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JTL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco- Rocha JTL Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 9:29 AM JTL To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com JTL Cc: Declude.Virus@declude.com JTL Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue JTL JTL JTL JTL JTL Due to the long holiday weekend, we have been away from the JTL office for a few days. Unfortunately it has come to our attention JTL that there could be a problem with key validation on the server JTL there. After some testing, we have determined that there is in JTL fact a hardware issue that we expect to have resolved today. JTL JTL JTL JTL JTL JTL JTL JTL We appreciate that you have taken the time to bring this matter JTL to our attention and appreciate your patience while we rectify JTL the situation. We will once again post to this list
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
While we are on the subject of licensing ... I have JunkMail Pro on which I maintain a current service contract and keep the version as current as I feel comfortable doing. I also have Declude Virus that works perfectly well in whatever version is installed. I haven't updated it in forever. When I purchased my JunkMail service contract, I was informed a few days later that I would also be required to purchase a Declude Virus contract if I wanted to maintain my JunkMail service contract. Barry was nice enough to make an exception this year but didn't sound like he was eager to continue this practice. Do I have to purchase service contracts on both products if I only care about upgrades on one? Will I be forced to purchase 2 contracts when my current one expires, etc. Thanks, Evans Martin --- EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser - IPB's IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:00 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue Don, Your license to run the software does not expire. What does expire is your right to download new updates of the software. David Franco-Rocha Declude Technical / Engineering - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue David, Thanks for the response but I only understand part of your answer. An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run the software. I know when I have an expired license agreement but when does my license to run the software expire? Don - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run the software. It simply does not allow you to update the software, but you can continue to run the version you have been running. David Franco-Rocha Declude Technical / Engineering - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue I too have stayed at the 1.82 version while keeping my service contract up to date. I am not ambitious enough to work through all the 2.x and 3.x issues. A heart felt thank you goes out to those of you who are. With the new licensing policy in 3.x, what happens when I decide not to renew the service agreement? Will all the Declude software I have stop working? Am I paying for it's usage only while I have a valid service agreement? It used to be that the service agreement allowed me major version upgrades when they were available without paying an additional fee. Am I now paying for a license to use the software? Don - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue Bottom line is we were told if the license server was offline we would not be impacted. It is seeming now that that statement was not true, though I should withhold judgement until we hear exactly why this had an impact. Very glad I've stuck with 1.82 at the moment, though we had a service agreement that entitled us to upgrade to 3.x. I would certainly like to know what will be done to the software licensing to make sure this problem does not happen again. Otherwise, since mail is considered a critical system, Declude needs to staff 24/7 to address problems as they arise. Darin. - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:50 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue True, very true. But like Andy or Darrell said, they should have done a test by pulling the plug on their license server during the week when they were watching it to see what would happen. But of course, hind sight is always 20/20 and Monday morning quarterbacking is highly overrated. ;-) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown Sent:
[Declude.JunkMail] DSPAM with Declude?
Good Morning, Folks I've had a recent onslaught of emails completely blowing past Declude. They're the typical winky improvement pill ads, coming from random sources, random names, random email addresses. First line of the email is a random URL, followed by cryptic spellings of the various winky pills. I've fed dozens to SpamAssassin with no luck. I've heard good reviews of DSPAM (dspam.nuclearelephant.com) and would like to incorporate it into Declude. Has anyone done this yet? I searched the archives and have had no luck. Any tips? Thanks, Sam Samuel J Stanaitis, Network Administrator Decorative Product Source, Inc. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] What can be done with undelivery receipts?
With the increase of undelivery receipts caused by spam using spoofed addresses of my clients, is there any way to more effectively catch those receipts? We are using imail 8.22 and the latest versions of declude pro, sniffer and invuribl Harry Vanderzand inTown Internet Computer Services 519-741-1222 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel J Stanaitis Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:23 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] DSPAM with Declude? Good Morning, Folks I've had a recent onslaught of emails completely blowing past Declude. They're the typical winky improvement pill ads, coming from random sources, random names, random email addresses. First line of the email is a random URL, followed by cryptic spellings of the various winky pills. I've fed dozens to SpamAssassin with no luck. I've heard good reviews of DSPAM (dspam.nuclearelephant.com) and would like to incorporate it into Declude. Has anyone done this yet? I searched the archives and have had no luck. Any tips? Thanks, Sam Samuel J Stanaitis, Network Administrator Decorative Product Source, Inc. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DSPAM with Declude?
Looks interesting, Sam. Looking through the documentation, it seems that it would not directly integrate with Declude, but could be used as a Gateway that only tags the messages, so you could have a Declude filter that looks for the tag and weights appropriately. Note that it is *nix only at this point, so it means setting up a separate box from IMail. Might work well in conjunction with a PostFix or IMGate gateway. Something to think about... Darin. - Original Message - From: Samuel J Stanaitis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:22 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] DSPAM with Declude? Good Morning, Folks I've had a recent onslaught of emails completely blowing past Declude. They're the typical winky improvement pill ads, coming from random sources, random names, random email addresses. First line of the email is a random URL, followed by cryptic spellings of the various winky pills. I've fed dozens to SpamAssassin with no luck. I've heard good reviews of DSPAM (dspam.nuclearelephant.com) and would like to incorporate it into Declude. Has anyone done this yet? I searched the archives and have had no luck. Any tips? Thanks, Sam Samuel J Stanaitis, Network Administrator Decorative Product Source, Inc. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] OT: IMail vs. Merak
Hello, All, We are re-architecting our e-mail hosting and are going to be upgrading from IMail 6.06 to a new e-mail platform. We are familiar with IMail can do so we are currently evaluating Merak e-mail server to see what else is out there. Has anyone on this list done a similiar evaluation between IMail and Merak? If so, did you find any clear benefits that IMail had over Merak or vice versa? We already know that Merak is going to be a more expensive upgrade then IMail. And obviously the current version of Declude doesn't support Merak. Anything else that made the decision to stay with IMail easier for you? Thanks In Advance, Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DSPAM with Declude?
I've heard good reviews of DSPAM (dspam.nuclearelephant.com) and would like to incorporate it into Declude. Has anyone done this yet? I searched the archives and have had no luck. I would recommend POPFile in its stead for a standalone, Windows-compatible, Bayes-only approach. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] OT: New exploit in the wild
http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2005/12/new-exploit-blows-by-fully-patch ed.html and http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/16074/discuss --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans
Since the list seems quiet today, It seems a good chance for a less than critical question. My proc directory has about 5 - 15 q*.smd files a day that never process. They have been building up since I Upgraded to 3.0 and the proc directory was created. There are about 600 of them now. Are these just orphans to be deleted after 24-36 hrs. or is something I need to look into? I didn't think one of the file pair should be left here? Bill Bill Green dfn Systems --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: IMail vs. Merak
Not to get anyone bent at all but I have a second mail server running that is hMailServer www.hmailserver.com. It is open source for Windows and has been very stable. Very good support from it's forums. I am working to a few things to get my Declude system to work with it properly. Presently have ASSP (it's like Spam Assassin but easier to setup) but would really like to get my Declude set-up working with it. Just a suggestion. Jeff Kratka TymeWyse Internet P.O.Box 84 - 110 Ecklund St., Canyonville, OR 97417 tel: (541) 643-2023 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:35 AM To: DECLUDE.JUNKMAIL@DECLUDE.COM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: IMail vs. Merak Hello, All, We are re-architecting our e-mail hosting and are going to be upgrading from IMail 6.06 to a new e-mail platform. We are familiar with IMail can do so we are currently evaluating Merak e-mail server to see what else is out there. Has anyone on this list done a similiar evaluation between IMail and Merak? If so, did you find any clear benefits that IMail had over Merak or vice versa? We already know that Merak is going to be a more expensive upgrade then IMail. And obviously the current version of Declude doesn't support Merak. Anything else that made the decision to stay with IMail easier for you? Thanks In Advance, Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans
Are there any related D files left over? Could these be confirmation list messages that has to do with the Declude Confirm problem? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:43 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans Since the list seems quiet today, It seems a good chance for a less than critical question. My proc directory has about 5 - 15 q*.smd files a day that never process. They have been building up since I Upgraded to 3.0 and the proc directory was created. There are about 600 of them now. Are these just orphans to be deleted after 24-36 hrs. or is something I need to look into? I didn't think one of the file pair should be left here? Bill Bill Green dfn Systems --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
Martin, How do you update Declude Junkmail without updating declude eva? Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:53 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue While we are on the subject of licensing ... I have JunkMail Pro on which I maintain a current service contract and keep the version as current as I feel comfortable doing. I also have Declude Virus that works perfectly well in whatever version is installed. I haven't updated it in forever. When I purchased my JunkMail service contract, I was informed a few days later that I would also be required to purchase a Declude Virus contract if I wanted to maintain my JunkMail service contract. Barry was nice enough to make an exception this year but didn't sound like he was eager to continue this practice. Do I have to purchase service contracts on both products if I only care about upgrades on one? Will I be forced to purchase 2 contracts when my current one expires, etc. Thanks, Evans Martin --- EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser - IPB's IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:00 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue Don, Your license to run the software does not expire. What does expire is your right to download new updates of the software. David Franco-Rocha Declude Technical / Engineering - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue David, Thanks for the response but I only understand part of your answer. An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run the software. I know when I have an expired license agreement but when does my license to run the software expire? Don - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run the software. It simply does not allow you to update the software, but you can continue to run the version you have been running. David Franco-Rocha Declude Technical / Engineering - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue I too have stayed at the 1.82 version while keeping my service contract up to date. I am not ambitious enough to work through all the 2.x and 3.x issues. A heart felt thank you goes out to those of you who are. With the new licensing policy in 3.x, what happens when I decide not to renew the service agreement? Will all the Declude software I have stop working? Am I paying for it's usage only while I have a valid service agreement? It used to be that the service agreement allowed me major version upgrades when they were available without paying an additional fee. Am I now paying for a license to use the software? Don - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue Bottom line is we were told if the license server was offline we would not be impacted. It is seeming now that that statement was not true, though I should withhold judgement until we hear exactly why this had an impact. Very glad I've stuck with 1.82 at the moment, though we had a service agreement that entitled us to upgrade to 3.x. I would certainly like to know what will be done to the software licensing to make sure this problem does not happen again. Otherwise, since mail is considered a critical system, Declude needs to staff 24/7 to address problems as they arise. Darin. - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:50 PM
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: IMail vs. Merak
Does it support port 587 for authentication? Wednesday, December 28, 2005, 1:44:10 PM, Jeff Kratka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JK Not to get anyone bent at all but I have a second mail server running that JK is hMailServer www.hmailserver.com. It is open source for Windows and has JK been very stable. Very good support from it's forums. I am working to a few JK things to get my Declude system to work with it properly. Presently have JK ASSP (it's like Spam Assassin but easier to setup) but would really like to JK get my Declude set-up working with it. JK Just a suggestion. JK Jeff Kratka JK JK TymeWyse Internet JK P.O.Box 84 - 110 Ecklund St., Canyonville, OR 97417 JK tel: (541) 643-2023 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] JK JK -Original Message- JK From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Geiser JK Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:35 AM JK To: DECLUDE.JUNKMAIL@DECLUDE.COM JK Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: IMail vs. Merak JK Hello, All, JK We are re-architecting our e-mail hosting and are going to be upgrading from JK IMail 6.06 to a new e-mail platform. We are familiar with IMail can do so JK we are currently evaluating Merak e-mail server to see what else is out JK there. Has anyone on this list done a similiar evaluation between IMail and JK Merak? If so, did you find any clear benefits that IMail had over Merak or JK vice versa? JK We already know that Merak is going to be a more expensive upgrade then JK IMail. And obviously the current version of Declude doesn't support Merak. JK Anything else that made the decision to stay with IMail easier for you? JK Thanks In Advance, JK Dan Geiser JK [EMAIL PROTECTED] JK --- JK E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) JK --- JK [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] JK --- JK This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JK unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JK type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found JK at http://www.mail-archive.com. JK --- JK [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] JK --- JK This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JK unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JK type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found JK at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] OT - SMTP Gateway
Hi Everyone, Some of you folks know me; we published a Declude add-in for awhile and also publish the MXRate IP4R system that many of you currently use. We are looking for a few beta testers for our SMTP Gateway. It does a lot of cool stuff and runs as a Windows service. It has been a part of our Alligate product for over 3 years, but we are going to make the SMTP Gateway available separately as a stand alone product. Rather than list everything it does here, I put together a little info page at: http://www.alligate.com/gwbeta.htm This is not a beta in the traditional sense. The SMTP gateway is in production usage by many ISPs and has been for over 3 years. What we would like to do is uncover any issues that may arise from using it in a standalone mode. One interesting thing is that it was designed specifically for use with an external spam filtering program. We use a file pair system very similar to Imail's Q and D files and they can be initially saved to a directory for third party processing, then moved to our Queue for delivery. I am hoping that if we can generate some interest from the Declude community, we might see some interest by Barry in providing direct Declude support for our gateway. This would make Declude 100% mail server neutral, and it could be used with any mail server on any platform. It also supports routing to multiple mail servers, so it can easily be used in mixed environments. You would no longer be limited to Imail or Smartermail. We are currently finishing the GUI to control the gateway and then it will be ready for release to beta users. The target date is Jan 10, 2006. Please take a look at the info page above and if there is any interest, please feel free to contact me directly. Thanks Brian Milburn Solid Oak Software --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: IMail vs. Merak
I'm not sure. The easiest thing to do would be to go to the site and ask in the forum. Jeff Kratka TymeWyse Internet P.O.Box 84 - 110 Ecklund St., Canyonville, OR 97417 tel: (541) 643-2023 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don Brown Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:04 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: IMail vs. Merak Does it support port 587 for authentication? Wednesday, December 28, 2005, 1:44:10 PM, Jeff Kratka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JK Not to get anyone bent at all but I have a second mail server running that JK is hMailServer www.hmailserver.com. It is open source for Windows and has JK been very stable. Very good support from it's forums. I am working to a few JK things to get my Declude system to work with it properly. Presently have JK ASSP (it's like Spam Assassin but easier to setup) but would really like to JK get my Declude set-up working with it. JK Just a suggestion. JK Jeff Kratka JK JK TymeWyse Internet JK P.O.Box 84 - 110 Ecklund St., Canyonville, OR 97417 JK tel: (541) 643-2023 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] JK JK -Original Message- JK From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Geiser JK Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:35 AM JK To: DECLUDE.JUNKMAIL@DECLUDE.COM JK Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: IMail vs. Merak JK Hello, All, JK We are re-architecting our e-mail hosting and are going to be upgrading from JK IMail 6.06 to a new e-mail platform. We are familiar with IMail can do so JK we are currently evaluating Merak e-mail server to see what else is out JK there. Has anyone on this list done a similiar evaluation between IMail and JK Merak? If so, did you find any clear benefits that IMail had over Merak or JK vice versa? JK We already know that Merak is going to be a more expensive upgrade then JK IMail. And obviously the current version of Declude doesn't support Merak. JK Anything else that made the decision to stay with IMail easier for you? JK Thanks In Advance, JK Dan Geiser JK [EMAIL PROTECTED] JK --- JK E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) JK --- JK [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] JK --- JK This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JK unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JK type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found JK at http://www.mail-archive.com. JK --- JK [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] JK --- JK This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JK unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JK type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found JK at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] CBL:Abuse on dnsstuff.com
Title: Message I just went to dnsstuff.com and it gave me a page that my proxy was abusing themI have my proxy locked down to only IPs I want to go thruHow can I get this fixed...anybody know? proxy.ethixs.com is my proxy.. Richard FarrisEthixs Online1.270.247. Office1.800.548.3877 Tech Support"Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet" - Original Message - From: Richard Farris To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:50 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:Rule Breakdown All of a sudden this month I started getting Rule Breakdown in the properties of the emailis Declude doing that or maybe Sortmonster? Richard FarrisEthixs Online1.270.247. Office1.800.548.3877 Tech Support"Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:Abuse on dnsstuff.com
Title: Message Richard, Your proxy's IP address is listed in both DSBL and SORBS as of August, 2004. SORBS is a pain to deal with generally, and DSBL shows no attempts at removal, though their removal processes are overly strict. Anyway, it would seem possible that your proxy isn't sufficiently secured and it might be abused. It could also be a multi-hop situation where a client behind the proxy is responsible for the abuse. Of course it is also possible that Scott's programming is misbehaving by tagging you. Prudence would suggest that you double check your proxy's settings, make sure it is fully patched, and search it's logs for any anomalies. It would also make sense to try delisting this IP from SORBS and DSBL as these listings are permanent and could come back to haunt you even if they aren't now. When you have done these, you could double check dnsstuff.com and see if they are still blocking you and send Scott a message if he is. He might also be able to help identify how his system is detecting the abuse just in case you don't find a hole. Matt Richard Farris wrote: I just went to dnsstuff.com and it gave me a page that my proxy was abusing themI have my proxy locked down to only IPs I want to go thruHow can I get this fixed...anybody know? proxy.ethixs.com is my proxy.. Richard Farris Ethixs Online 1.270.247. Office 1.800.548.3877 Tech Support "Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet" - Original Message - From: Richard Farris To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:50 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:Rule Breakdown All of a sudden this month I started getting Rule Breakdown in the properties of the emailis Declude doing that or maybe Sortmonster? Richard Farris Ethixs Online 1.270.247. Office 1.800.548.3877 Tech Support "Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
Huh? I just download the JunkMail installer and run the setup. I don't have an option to download Virus when I log in to declude.com. Evans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:55 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue Martin, How do you update Declude Junkmail without updating declude eva? Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:53 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue While we are on the subject of licensing ... I have JunkMail Pro on which I maintain a current service contract and keep the version as current as I feel comfortable doing. I also have Declude Virus that works perfectly well in whatever version is installed. I haven't updated it in forever. When I purchased my JunkMail service contract, I was informed a few days later that I would also be required to purchase a Declude Virus contract if I wanted to maintain my JunkMail service contract. Barry was nice enough to make an exception this year but didn't sound like he was eager to continue this practice. Do I have to purchase service contracts on both products if I only care about upgrades on one? Will I be forced to purchase 2 contracts when my current one expires, etc. Thanks, Evans Martin --- EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser - IPB's IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:00 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue Don, Your license to run the software does not expire. What does expire is your right to download new updates of the software. David Franco-Rocha Declude Technical / Engineering - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue David, Thanks for the response but I only understand part of your answer. An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run the software. I know when I have an expired license agreement but when does my license to run the software expire? Don - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run the software. It simply does not allow you to update the software, but you can continue to run the version you have been running. David Franco-Rocha Declude Technical / Engineering - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue I too have stayed at the 1.82 version while keeping my service contract up to date. I am not ambitious enough to work through all the 2.x and 3.x issues. A heart felt thank you goes out to those of you who are. With the new licensing policy in 3.x, what happens when I decide not to renew the service agreement? Will all the Declude software I have stop working? Am I paying for it's usage only while I have a valid service agreement? It used to be that the service agreement allowed me major version upgrades when they were available without paying an additional fee. Am I now paying for a license to use the software? Don - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue Bottom line is we were told if the license server was offline we would not be impacted. It is seeming now that that statement was not true, though I should withhold judgement until we hear exactly why this had an impact. Very glad I've stuck with 1.82 at the moment, though we had a service agreement that entitled us to
