RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - SMTP Gateway
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am hoping that if we can generate some interest from the Declude community, we might see some interest by Barry in providing direct Declude support for our gateway. This would make Declude 100% mail server neutral, and it could be used with any mail server on any platform. I can say, that if you could get direct Declude support in your product, I would buy it instantly. Or if something like ORF could get direct declude support, I would buy that. Just so that Barry knows :-) I have not had support om my Imail for years, because I only use it for gateway. Regards, Kaj Laursen --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans
John, As I got a chance to look more thoroughly, I found that I misspoke. The files in question are in the Work directory inside the Proc Directory. On 12-28-05 you wrote: Are there any related D files left over? Could these be confirmation list messages that has to do with the Declude Confirm problem? I couldn't find any matching files in the spool directory or even in the logs. :-\ I don't have Declude Confirm. I'm running IMail 8.12 / Declude 3.0.5.20 Junk and AV Pro. I upgraded from Declude 1.82 to 3.0, bypassing 2.x entirely so the /proc/work directories are relatively new to my installation. Bill Green dfn Systems --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] So - what happened with the Downgrade
Hi, After all this turmail last weekend, where several users suffered a "downgrade" from Pro which strangely coincided with the unavailability of a certain host name at Declude - and which equally strangely seemed to fix itself after Declude fixed that problem on Monday -- I'm wondering what the outcome of all that was? Has that "coincidence" been sufficiently explained so that we ALL can sleep better THIS weekend? What about the apparent resource leakage that seemed to occurat those clientswhile Declude's hardware problem was going on? Has it been investigated to determine if there is a problem in the exception handling that might cause an ever-increasing resource consumptions? I would really like to get an update on what has been accomplished this week to shed some light into this whole matter to put my mind at ease. Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - SMTP Gateway
Rather than list everything it does here, I put together a little info page at. . . I fail to see this post as anything but spam. In the archives, you'll see that I've defended the right of posters to market commercial Declude plug-ins or wrappers on this last in the past. I still believe that's totally fine; if you're committed to _using_ Declude _as well as_ making some money from improving it, that's cool. And if it's in response to an OT query in someone's post -- what might be deemed an opt-in -- plugging just about anything you manufacture or resell can be okay, within limits (like a single contact me off-list response), especially if it comes from a well-known name here on the list. Signatures with pluggy copy also don't rankle me, since they require real posts or replies in order to be seen. But, IMO, having published a Declude add-in for a while, then going off to make money from your own competing products and not participating in the user community, is not an adequate justification for using this list as a marketing list. Just because you'd _like_ the product to have Declude support doesn't mean that it falls legitimately within the Declude user community. I'm sure plenty of us would like our own commercial products to have Declude support, so we could advertise them to another well-known community. But you know what we need much, much more? A stable Declude 3.x that works. A runtime license validation mechanism that doesn't seem suspiciously tied to the uptime of a single remote server. And so on. What we don't need in the short term is another commercial MTA integration. IMail may still have overall price/performance issues as an MTA, but it's a lot more solid than in the past; SmarterMail was more efficient from the get-go, and the Declude/SmarterTools partnership is (we hope) still in force. Brazenly trying to upsell your MTA so that Barry will build in support for it is pretty insensitive to what Declude needs now. If you'd been listening to the list lately, you'd know this. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Release 3.0.5.23
Title: Message Declude Release 3.0.5.23 There has been an intermittent bug in Declude that reported certain features in the Pro version were not available. There is no function within Declude to downgrade functionality other than by changing the key in the configuration file which is under the control of our customers. There is no remote capability for anyone at Declude to change the contents of a customers configuration file. The latest release posted today 3.0.5.23 contains a fix for this bug. We recognize that some customers had issues with our licensing software over the last weekend. We had thoroughly tested this when we first released this version of the licensing software, including turning off of the server and we were confident that this type of issue would not arise. It seems however that with the communications failure (Verizon) a problem arose for a limited number of our customers. We analyzed the code this week and thanks to customers who worked with us on this and the problem has now been resolved. The fix is in 3.0.5.23 We have designed a new, simplified licensing application that will be released with Declude 4.0 and we will post more details closer to the time. Barry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin BilbeeSent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 1:28 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] So - what happened with the Downgrade Decludes silence, since Scott left, normally means they have not completed their investigation. I think their silence on this and other issues is a definite concern. Declude used to be very up front on issues and much more active on this list. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:26 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: CBL:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] So - what happened with the Downgrade I would also like to add myDEEP concern about this issue. I have yet to see an adequate explanation about the problem orany steps that are being taken to prevent it in the future. It would be helpful if Declude would explain how this "phone home" feature works so we can better address issues when it doesn't. Don - Original Message - From: Andy Schmidt To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] So - what happened with the Downgrade Hi, After all this turmail last weekend, where several users suffered a "downgrade" from Pro which strangely coincided with the unavailability of a certain host name at Declude - and which equally strangely seemed to fix itself after Declude fixed that problem on Monday -- I'm wondering what the outcome of all that was? Has that "coincidence" been sufficiently explained so that we ALL can sleep better THIS weekend? What about the apparent resource leakage that seemed to occurat those clientswhile Declude's hardware problem was going on? Has it been investigated to determine if there is a problem in the exception handling that might cause an ever-increasing resource consumptions? I would really like to get an update on what has been accomplished this week to shed some light into this whole matter to put my mind at ease. Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 12/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 12/29/2005
[Declude.JunkMail] declude.cfg cleaning
Just cleaning up my declude.cfg file. Are the PROCESSES and THREADS options still valid for 3.05.x?
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - SMTP Gateway
Hi Sandy, I apologize if this post offended you. I had no intention of posting anything that might be remotely construed as commercial spam. I used Declude for quite awhile, and still use Declude AV. I have monitored this list for years, not to upsell anything to anyone, but because it is one of the best technical resources on the net for guys that are in the trenches fighting spam every day. Declude users are, by and large, come of the most knowledgeable mail administrators around and the discussions are relevant and timely. For what is worth, there are a few Declude users here that know that anti-spam development is more of a personal crusade for me that a profit making venture. We are probably not even close to breaking even on anti-spam technology development, however I am fortunate in that our CYBERsitter product is profitable enough that I am able to indulge in development projects that are not profitable. You are correct that we published a Declude add-in for awhile, however many of the functions we wanted to get into would have simply been duplications of what Declude already did (and does) well. I withdrew the Declude version primarily because one of my goals was to come up with more of a hands off system and this is definitely not what Declude users are interested in. I made the decision to withdraw the Imail specific version because I specifically did not want to appear that we were trying to poach users from the Declude user base or to try and compete with Declude in any way. I posted the message yesterday because I genuinely thought this may be of some interest to Declude users. We have no desire to compete with Declude, rather we have a mutual desire to help administrators deal with the onslaught of garbage they have to deal with on a daily basis. I also think it is worth noting that we have spent many thousands of dollars developing our MXRate blacklist system. While we do use it for our own customers, we also provided a free IP4R system for public use. It gets about 110,000,000 hits a day and the only place we ever announced the availability of this free, public service was here on the Declude list. So, I can only assume that a large amount of the traffic is from Declude users. We have a new $6000 server devoted just to serving the free MXRate service, plus the ongoing bandwidth and maintenance costs. No one ever asked us to do this, and I simply felt that by doing so I could contribute to the Declude community in this way. Since I own the company, these costs basically come out of my pocket. I am disappointed that you feel my contribution is unworthy. Brian -Original Message- Rather than list everything it does here, I put together a little info page at. . . I fail to see this post as anything but spam. But, IMO, having published a Declude add-in for a while, then going off to make money from your own competing products and not participating in the user community, is not an adequate justification for using this list as a marketing list. Just because you'd _like_ the product to have Declude support doesn't mean that it falls legitimately within the Declude user community. I'm sure plenty of us would like our own commercial products to have Declude support, so we could advertise them to another well-known community. But you know what we need much, much more? A stable Declude 3.x that works. A runtime license validation mechanism that doesn't seem suspiciously tied to the uptime of a single remote server. And so on. What we don't need in the short term is another commercial MTA integration. IMail may still have overall price/performance issues as an MTA, but it's a lot more solid than in the past; SmarterMail was more efficient from the get-go, and the Declude/SmarterTools partnership is (we hope) still in force. Brazenly trying to upsell your MTA so that Barry will build in support for it is pretty insensitive to what Declude needs now. If you'd been listening to the list lately, you'd know this. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/do wnload/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2a liases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2alias es/download/release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at
[Declude.JunkMail] Domain Config files
Running Declude 3.0.5.23 IMail 8.22 I have a number of gateway domains and have set up per-domain configuration files ($default$.junkmail) in appropriate subdirectories. This setup works as expected. I also serve as an outbound gateway for some of these domains. All of this outbound gateway email appears to be handled by the GLOBAL.CFG actions with no option to have per-domain configuration files. Am I missing something or is the functionality Im looking for just nonexistent? Thanks, George
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude.cfg cleaning
The "PROCESSES" is no longer used under 3.x, but the THREADS is the 3.x replacement for PROCESSES. Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude.cfg cleaning Just cleaning up my declude.cfg file. Are the PROCESSES and THREADS options still valid for 3.05.x?
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans
Uh, that is kind of time critical. Is e-mail moving and being processed? Again, are they just Q with no D? Is the Decludeproc server running? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:17 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans John, As I got a chance to look more thoroughly, I found that I misspoke. The files in question are in the Work directory inside the Proc Directory. On 12-28-05 you wrote: Are there any related D files left over? Could these be confirmation list messages that has to do with the Declude Confirm problem? I couldn't find any matching files in the spool directory or even in the logs. :-\ I don't have Declude Confirm. I'm running IMail 8.12 / Declude 3.0.5.20 Junk and AV Pro. I upgraded from Declude 1.82 to 3.0, bypassing 2.x entirely so the /proc/work directories are relatively new to my installation. Bill Green dfn Systems --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans
Yes, I'm moving about 25,000/day. It's just these few per day that seem to get left. Just Q files. No matching D files anywhere. Decludeproc is definitely running. I can observe the action happening in the Work directory. I moved all the files over 2 days old into a holding folder. They were all Q files. There are about 50 Q D file pairs moving in and out of the Work Directory at any one time, and up at the top are now 5 - 6 Q files just sitting there. Another new one shows up every 1-6 hrs. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 6:31 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans Uh, that is kind of time critical. Is e-mail moving and being processed? Again, are they just Q with no D? Is the Decludeproc server running? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:17 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans John, As I got a chance to look more thoroughly, I found that I misspoke. The files in question are in the Work directory inside the Proc Directory. On 12-28-05 you wrote: Are there any related D files left over? Could these be confirmation list messages that has to do with the Declude Confirm problem? I couldn't find any matching files in the spool directory or even in the logs. :-\ I don't have Declude Confirm. I'm running IMail 8.12 / Declude 3.0.5.20 Junk and AV Pro. I upgraded from Declude 1.82 to 3.0, bypassing 2.x entirely so the /proc/work directories are relatively new to my installation. Bill Green dfn Systems --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 12/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 12/29/2005 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans
I have the same situation on my install with the same 8.21 and 3.05 installs. I get 6 to 8 Q files in the work directory and once every few days I will get a D file in the proc directory all by itself. All mail seems to be processing, and what I have seen on the D files is that they are spam (you know enlarge this or reduce that) so I have been just deleting them but it does not seem to be right that it is doing this. Rick Hogue Intent.Net - Web Hosting 3802 Handley Avenue Louisville, KY 40218 1-502-459-3100 1-800-866-2983 Toll Free New Books Available Prosperity Or Better Times Ten Hot Slot Secrets The Incredible Inman's Louisville Trivia Challenge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:31 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans Uh, that is kind of time critical. Is e-mail moving and being processed? Again, are they just Q with no D? Is the Decludeproc server running? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:17 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] proc directory orphans John, As I got a chance to look more thoroughly, I found that I misspoke. The files in question are in the Work directory inside the Proc Directory. On 12-28-05 you wrote: Are there any related D files left over? Could these be confirmation list messages that has to do with the Declude Confirm problem? I couldn't find any matching files in the spool directory or even in the logs. :-\ I don't have Declude Confirm. I'm running IMail 8.12 / Declude 3.0.5.20 Junk and AV Pro. I upgraded from Declude 1.82 to 3.0, bypassing 2.x entirely so the /proc/work directories are relatively new to my installation. Bill Green dfn Systems --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude on http://www.intent.net hosted Email] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude on http://www.intent.net hosted Email] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
