Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Incomplete headers - theory
I have seen it also, but infrequently. The msg will arrive with the Declude headers in the body and the usual headers missing or incomplete. I didn't trouble shoot it, but will do so with the next one to compare notes. We're also running IM 8.21 and the latest release of Declude. Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 12:23:13 AM, Karen Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KM I have been having problems with incomplete or broken headers in KM lots of spam messages. Sometimes I will see the missing headers in KM the body of the message, sometimes not. See below for example. KM The subject when the message arrived in the inbox was: Subject: KM EXPLICIT: Nice online dating booty call service.. Kind of caught KM my eye because I have a porn filter for EXPLICIT: in the subject. KM So the porn filter wasn't triggered. PORNLIST filter KM d:\IMail\Declude\pornlist.txt x 5 0 with a routeto in the default file. KM The log told me that Q file exceeds 512 bytes in size. KM Ipswitch's knowledge base tells me that this was triggered because of the KM auto-deny hack attempts was checked in smtp. It didn't deny it KM however, since the message was delivered. None of the rules in KM either Outlook or imail web interface were triggered because the header is incomplete. KM I turned off the auto-deny and haven't seen any more messages yet. KM My question is, has anyone noticed anything like this, and is KM this feature broken or is their another factor involved. KM Declude 3.0.5.23 KM Imail 8.21 KM Karen M. Mitchell KM Senior NewMedia Systems Administrator KM AccuWeather, Inc. KM 385 Science Park Road KM State College, PA 16803 KM Get the best weather on the web - http://www.accuweather.com KM KM Imail header via web interface KM Received: from 247.red-217-216-60.user.auna.net [217.216.60.247] by ntms1.accuweather.com KM (SMTPD-8.21) id A811033C; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:36:33 -0500 KM Received: from airy d's (implement.catapultrascal.com KM [150.150.225.86]) by 217.216.60.247 (6.8.6/8.9.9) with ESMTP id FMZT153754637 KM for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:30:33 -0200 KM Status: R KM X-UIDL: 1033884398 KM X-IMail-ThreadID: c80f03434a54 KM Complete message from Outlook Express. KM Received: from 247.red-217-216-60.user.auna.net [217.216.60.247] by ntms1.accuweather.com KM (SMTPD-8.21) id A811033C; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:36:33 -0500 KM Received: from airy d's (implement.catapultrascal.com KM [150.150.225.86]) by 217.216.60.247 (6.8.6/8.9.9) with ESMTP id FMZT153754637 KM for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:30:33 -0200 KM Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KM Reply-To: Erna Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] KM From: Erna Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] KM Location: cleave iv chloroplatinate KM Delivery-Notification: No KM To: removed [EMAIL PROTECTED] KM Subject: EXPLICIT: Nice online dating booty call service. KM Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:30:33 -0700 KM MIME-Version: 1.0 KM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; KM boundary=--693861316335815 KM 693861316335815 KM Content-Type: text/html; KM charset=iso-3436-3 KM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable KM X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KM Status: U KM X-UIDL: 1033884398 KM X-IMail-ThreadID: c80f03434a54 KM It as the same experieneeCan swim under water.Imagine the lok on your khi= KM ldren or grandjhildrens faxes when they open the mail box to find a someth= KM ing with their name on it. The air. This way. =0A table KM trtda KM =0Ahref=3Dhttp://silverdates.com/7654/index.html?1886040get y= KM our booty call on right nowbrimg KM =0Asrc=3Dhttp://harddate.com/7654/2383= .jpg border=3D0br=0Apnr=0A/a=0Alvq=0A=0A I Great to have another to= KM py o your book let alone an autographed one. You leave enough information = KM on their publid site to find out what presahool the child attends. I T ent= KM ertain people with your writing.p=0Aa KM href=3D=0Ahttp://dategnome.com/?q= KM Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KM Subject: SPAM: KM X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client [a004010f]. KM X-RBL-Warning: CMDSPACE: Space found in RCPT TO: command. KM X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain 247.red-217-216-60.user.auna.net has no MX or A records [0301]. KM X-RBL-Warning: ROUTING: This E-mail was routed in a poor manner consistent with spam [a004010f]. KM X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10. KM X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [217.216.60.247] KM X-Declude-Spoolname: Dc80f03434a54.smd KM X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 3.0.5.23 KM (http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm) for spam. KM X-Declude-Scan: Score [21] at 19:36:39 on 24 Jan 2006 KM X-Declude-Tests: BADHEADERS, CMDSPACE, HELOBOGUS, ROUTING, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT13 I wish to stop getting these, thanks! - fp=0A/a =0Atable bgcolor=3Dw= hite KM /td/tr/table=0Atrtd=0A table width=3D100% KM /td /tr/table=0Atrtd=0A table cellspacing=3D1 width=3D100= % KM /td/tr /table=0Atr=0Atd/td/tr/table=0A KM
AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up
hi, did you report this to support? we have a similar problem (using imail 7.15 with declude 3.0.5.23) with *.fwd, *.gse and manually moved *.smd files. support still doing some research on our problem. but we have some kind of work around: we call smtp32.exe -qr -x as a task every 60 minutes to start the imail queue-run. best regards from germany mfg i.a. gez. markus guhl *** lds nrw ref. 241 tel.: 0211 9449 6947 fax.: 0211 9449 8344 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von A. Clausen Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2006 22:25 An: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Betreff: Re: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up Guhl, Markus (LDS) wrote: hi, are those files backing up regular incomming mails or are they *.fwd and *.gse files? what happens when you put a mail (d*.smd and q*.smd) into spool by hand (something like a false positiv)? which version of imail do you use? I've tried manipulating by hand. Moving data out. If I go to the spool function in Webmail it does appear that hitting send will shove through the message, but other than that, everything seems to just sit on the queue. I can't quite say for sure, but I'm fairly certain this happened after the upgrade of Declude. One curious thing is if I go to into the IMail administrator program and try through there to manually send a message, I get a window showing Declude.exe is trying to push the program. This is a big problem, and I'm just not sure where to turn. I've moved all the queue files out of the queue and putting a few in, but the files just seem to sit there and do nothing. It's quite frustrating, as everything was working fine until the Declude upgrade. -- A. Clausen --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up
In 7.X on the SMTP panel, you will have tries before returning to sender and queue timer. What are the settings there? John C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guhl, Markus (LDS) Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:48 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up hi randy, since we use imail 7.15 we do not have somethimg like Queuemgr. the funny thing is, that something like that never happend with declude 2.x. it started at the very second we changed to 3.0.5.x. my declude.cfg settings are THREADS 13 CONCATENATELOGS ON #CONCATENATELOGSTHRESHOLD 50 #KEEPINDIVIDUALLOGSON WINSOCKCLEANUP ON WAITFORMAIL 1500 WAITFORTHREADS 150 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 300 as i said, declude is working on it. i do not think that it is a loadproblem. we changed during the christmasholydays (we provide the mailboxes for 6800 schools) and there was nearly no load when we first detected the problem. all incomming mails get processed and delivered (as long as those mails do not hit a forward), but all *.fwd , *.gse and manually moved *.smd files wait in the spool-directory (it looks like imail stopped it's own queue-run). best regards markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von GlobalWeb.net Webmaster Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. Januar 2006 16:13 An: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Betreff: RE: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up We had a similar issue with both 8.15 and 8.2x and Declude 3.x - After calls to both Declude and then IPSwitch on separate occasions, settings were adjusted in the declude.cfg file and the Queuemgr config to better suit our mail loadsfirst up pretty high, then backed down a little lower. Since the last change, we have not had this issue present its ugly head again. What are your settings for Delivery Threads, Retry Threads and declude.cfg settings? Randy GlobalWeb.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guhl, Markus (LDS) Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:01 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up hi, did you report this to support? we have a similar problem (using imail 7.15 with declude 3.0.5.23) with *.fwd, *.gse and manually moved *.smd files. support still doing some research on our problem. but we have some kind of work around: we call smtp32.exe -qr -x as a task every 60 minutes to start the imail queue-run. best regards from germany mfg i.a. gez. markus guhl *** lds nrw ref. 241 tel.: 0211 9449 6947 fax.: 0211 9449 8344 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von A. Clausen Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2006 22:25 An: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Betreff: Re: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up Guhl, Markus (LDS) wrote: hi, are those files backing up regular incomming mails or are they *.fwd and *.gse files? what happens when you put a mail (d*.smd and q*.smd) into spool by hand (something like a false positiv)? which version of imail do you use? I've tried manipulating by hand. Moving data out. If I go to the spool function in Webmail it does appear that hitting send will shove through the message, but other than that, everything seems to just sit on the queue. I can't quite say for sure, but I'm fairly certain this happened after the upgrade of Declude. One curious thing is if I go to into the IMail administrator program and try through there to manually send a message, I get a window showing Declude.exe is trying to push the program. This is a big problem, and I'm just not sure where to turn. I've moved all the queue files out of the queue and putting a few in, but the files just seem to sit there and do nothing. It's quite frustrating, as everything was working fine until the Declude upgrade. -- A. Clausen --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy
I like the tangent but does anyone have a response to my question??? Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:40 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy Well, now that you put it that way, probably not... ;-) Bill - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy Does it make a difference who is supplying the bed and who is supplying the bedding? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:29 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy I think you've got it backwards, SBC acquired ATT but is keeping the ATT name. Bill - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:23 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy And since ATT now owns SBC, aren't we getting back to Ma Bell? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:56 PM To: JunkMail Declude Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy Is there a relationship here. I am getting legit email from this combo and would like to know. It looks to me like prodigy is now owned by SBC. Kevin Bilbee --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ipfile question
FYI I finally nailed down some proof that IPFILE does check multiple hops. 222.140.230.131 is not in the IPFile 205.158.62.0/24 is in the IPFile. Received: from 1031C128 [222.140.230.131] by imail.Farmprogress.com (SMTPD-8.22) id A60D251940; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:01:01 -0600Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Received: from dbzmail.com (bay10-f23.bay10.dbzmail.com [205.158.62.141]] - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ipfile question Does the IPFILE test check just the last hop or all hops up to your HOPHIGH parameter? -Scott FisherDirector of ITFarm Progress Companies191 S Gary AveCarol Stream, IL 60188630-462-2323 This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments.
RE: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up
You are correct...i missed the version referenced; I see john has posted the correct variable to look for -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guhl, Markus (LDS) Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:48 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up hi randy, since we use imail 7.15 we do not have somethimg like Queuemgr. the funny thing is, that something like that never happend with declude 2.x. it started at the very second we changed to 3.0.5.x. my declude.cfg settings are THREADS 13 CONCATENATELOGS ON #CONCATENATELOGSTHRESHOLD 50 #KEEPINDIVIDUALLOGSON WINSOCKCLEANUP ON WAITFORMAIL 1500 WAITFORTHREADS 150 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 300 as i said, declude is working on it. i do not think that it is a loadproblem. we changed during the christmasholydays (we provide the mailboxes for 6800 schools) and there was nearly no load when we first detected the problem. all incomming mails get processed and delivered (as long as those mails do not hit a forward), but all *.fwd , *.gse and manually moved *.smd files wait in the spool-directory (it looks like imail stopped it's own queue-run). best regards markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von GlobalWeb.net Webmaster Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. Januar 2006 16:13 An: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Betreff: RE: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up We had a similar issue with both 8.15 and 8.2x and Declude 3.x - After calls to both Declude and then IPSwitch on separate occasions, settings were adjusted in the declude.cfg file and the Queuemgr config to better suit our mail loadsfirst up pretty high, then backed down a little lower. Since the last change, we have not had this issue present its ugly head again. What are your settings for Delivery Threads, Retry Threads and declude.cfg settings? Randy GlobalWeb.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guhl, Markus (LDS) Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:01 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up hi, did you report this to support? we have a similar problem (using imail 7.15 with declude 3.0.5.23) with *.fwd, *.gse and manually moved *.smd files. support still doing some research on our problem. but we have some kind of work around: we call smtp32.exe -qr -x as a task every 60 minutes to start the imail queue-run. best regards from germany mfg i.a. gez. markus guhl *** lds nrw ref. 241 tel.: 0211 9449 6947 fax.: 0211 9449 8344 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von A. Clausen Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2006 22:25 An: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Betreff: Re: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up Guhl, Markus (LDS) wrote: hi, are those files backing up regular incomming mails or are they *.fwd and *.gse files? what happens when you put a mail (d*.smd and q*.smd) into spool by hand (something like a false positiv)? which version of imail do you use? I've tried manipulating by hand. Moving data out. If I go to the spool function in Webmail it does appear that hitting send will shove through the message, but other than that, everything seems to just sit on the queue. I can't quite say for sure, but I'm fairly certain this happened after the upgrade of Declude. One curious thing is if I go to into the IMail administrator program and try through there to manually send a message, I get a window showing Declude.exe is trying to push the program. This is a big problem, and I'm just not sure where to turn. I've moved all the queue files out of the queue and putting a few in, but the files just seem to sit there and do nothing. It's quite frustrating, as everything was working fine until the Declude upgrade. -- A. Clausen --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy
A google search yields: SBC Prodigy refers to Prodigy Communications L.P., part of the SBC family of Internet Companies. If you are looking at spamdomains... the SBC family just isn't something that works well with spamdomains. not enough spamdomain options. - Original Message - From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy I like the tangent but does anyone have a response to my question??? Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:40 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy Well, now that you put it that way, probably not... ;-) Bill - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy Does it make a difference who is supplying the bed and who is supplying the bedding? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:29 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy I think you've got it backwards, SBC acquired ATT but is keeping the ATT name. Bill - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:23 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy And since ATT now owns SBC, aren't we getting back to Ma Bell? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:56 PM To: JunkMail Declude Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy Is there a relationship here. I am getting legit email from this combo and would like to know. It looks to me like prodigy is now owned by SBC. Kevin Bilbee --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ipfile question
Apparently according to the HOPHIGH parameter as you initially posted also. Matt Scott Fisher wrote: FYI I finally nailed down some proof that IPFILE does check multiple hops. 222.140.230.131 is not in the IPFile 205.158.62.0/24 is in the IPFile. Received: from 1031C128 [222.140.230.131] by imail.Farmprogress.com (SMTPD-8.22) id A60D251940; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:01:01 -0600 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from dbzmail.com (bay10-f23.bay10.dbzmail.com [205.158.62.141]] - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ipfile question Does the IPFILE test check just the last hop or all hops up to your HOPHIGH parameter? - Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies 191 S Gary Ave Carol Stream, IL 60188 630-462-2323 This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments.
[Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway
Hi Everyone, A couple of weeks ago I posted a message regarding our SMTP Gateway. Several users responded and have been using the beta version with no major issues. I appreciate the responses. We now have the Alligate SMTP Gateway available for evaluation for anyone that is interested. We could also use another beta tester or two, preferably someone who uses multiple or backup mail servers. We have decided to make a FREE version available as well. It is limited to a single destination server and a maximum of 5 concurrent connections. For simple installations supporting a single mail server and doing less than 10,000 messages per day, the free (Standard) version may be all you need and there is no cost whatsoever. The Alligate SMTP Gateway has numerous features to help with spam prevention that can be applied at the SMTP level before it ever gets to your mail server and Declude. If you use this with MXRate, and employ the tarpitting and/or blocking options, you can reduce spam volume by 60%+ immediately. We now have an informational page andon-line help with screenshots, so we would like to invite you to check it out. The screenshots and help topics will give you a good idea of its' capabilities. We will also be adding more technical details over the next couple of weeks, including information for programmers who may be interested in incorporating third party external anti-spam and virus programs. Main info page: http://www.alligate.com/smtpgateway.htm Help and Screenshots: http://www.alligate.com/help/Default.htm Thanks, Brian Milburn Solid Oak Software
Re: AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up
Guhl, Markus (LDS) wrote: hi randy, since we use imail 7.15 we do not have somethimg like Queuemgr. the funny thing is, that something like that never happend with declude 2.x. it started at the very second we changed to 3.0.5.x. my declude.cfg settings are THREADS 13 CONCATENATELOGS ON #CONCATENATELOGSTHRESHOLD 50 #KEEPINDIVIDUALLOGSON WINSOCKCLEANUP ON WAITFORMAIL 1500 WAITFORTHREADS 150 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 300 as i said, declude is working on it. i do not think that it is a loadproblem. we changed during the christmasholydays (we provide the mailboxes for 6800 schools) and there was nearly no load when we first detected the problem. all incomming mails get processed and delivered (as long as those mails do not hit a forward), but all *.fwd , *.gse and manually moved *.smd files wait in the spool-directory (it looks like imail stopped it's own queue-run). Interesting. So that does put Declude back up on top of the list of culprits. What I have done in the short term because I run an IMGate box in front, is to tell IMail to use it as an outgoing gateway. This seems to get things sent out in an orderly way, though I'd prefer not to be putting my gateway server through that kind of load. I certainly hope Declude solves this problem. -- A. Clausen --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway
I can't believe what is apparently permissible on this list. Has no one realized that this product is a commercial competitor to IMail or SmarterMail, with no relevance to Declude? Don't try that mail is stopped before Declude has to deal with it attempt at association. It is what it is. A separate, commercial anti-spam gateway with no integral link to the now-struggling Declude. At least Len Conrad's free cookbook for IMGate has the exact same features as the one he charges $500 to install. That's always been the redeeming quality of his plugging model. Guess the game has changed. For everyone who's silently letting this go: how'd you feel if Vamsoft started advertising here? Do you think there aren't other people on the list who've kept quiet about similar products and services? --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway
Sandy I thought the same and I'm sure many here too. But I preffered ignoring this spam message and withut commenting with the hope to prevent an unnecessary load to a list who's job is to provide support for declude products and nothing else. Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:35 AM To: Brian Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway I can't believe what is apparently permissible on this list. Has no one realized that this product is a commercial competitor to IMail or SmarterMail, with no relevance to Declude? Don't try that mail is stopped before Declude has to deal with it attempt at association. It is what it is. A separate, commercial anti-spam gateway with no integral link to the now-struggling Declude. At least Len Conrad's free cookbook for IMGate has the exact same features as the one he charges $500 to install. That's always been the redeeming quality of his plugging model. Guess the game has changed. For everyone who's silently letting this go: how'd you feel if Vamsoft started advertising here? Do you think there aren't other people on the list who've kept quiet about similar products and services? --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/do wnload/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2a liases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2alias es/download/release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway
Sanford Whiteman wrote: Has no one realized that this product is a commercial competitor to IMail or SmarterMail, with no relevance to Declude? I missed the post. .I actually had to look in my deleted emails to find the email to which you were referring.. Obviously you are right - I guess because my interest in this list is not what it once was so I skip over most posts. A separate, commercial anti-spam gateway with no integral link to the now-struggling Declude. This is true. Languishing may be a better term. For everyone who's silently letting this go: how'd you feel if Vamsoft started advertising here? Peter wouldn't do that! and if he did he would sure hear it from me. But your point is well taken... -Nick --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway
Sandy, I agree with you. That fact that I was going to be silent has to do with my perception of the users on this list, as compared to other lists that I participate on that I am well know to posts rants. The fact of the matter is I was one of the ones heavily (to my knowledge) involved in testing and promoting the former Alligate to the Declude community. And I believe I got burned, as I am sure others did. I spent a lot of time testing and reporting to Brian about Alligate, before it was even that. And then not even 6 months later to have them silently retreat away from the Declude community left a bad taste. I came away with the feeling that I and others were used to help the product along not for the benefit of the Declude community, but for Brian and his company. For those that are not familiar with the former product, an inherent conflict came up as Brian wanted Alligate to have control of the message. We are Declude users because we believe in Declude and want control to remain with Declude. Yes Brian, your post is pure marketing to a list that is essentially a competitor, and that is both unprofessional and unethical. Please, think long and hard about that. Especially since your company deals in products that involve to a point ethics and morals. John T eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway
Judging by the responses, I suppose that it is inappropriate, at least without approaching Barry about promoting this product here. I don't however believe that the intentions were to snipe customers away from Declude, but instead to provide a value-added solution to those of us that require an address-validating gateway or pre-scanner of some sort. His company has of course previously offered a plug-in for Declude, and publishes a blacklist that many around here are making use of as well. I don't believe that they are looking at this product as a big money maker for them, or even a money maker at all. Even programs like Sniffer has some potential of competing with Declude, though both are of course stronger as a result of working together. It would be good for Declude to offer a gateway solution of some sort or find a partner to do so. Matt Sanford Whiteman wrote: I can't believe what is apparently permissible on this list. Has no one realized that this product is a commercial competitor to IMail or SmarterMail, with no relevance to Declude? Don't try that mail is stopped before Declude has to deal with it attempt at association. It is what it is. A separate, commercial anti-spam gateway with no integral link to the now-struggling Declude. At least Len Conrad's free cookbook for IMGate has the exact same features as the one he charges $500 to install. That's always been the redeeming quality of his plugging model. Guess the game has changed. For everyone who's silently letting this go: how'd you feel if Vamsoft started advertising here? Do you think there aren't other people on the list who've kept quiet about similar products and services? --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway
Plans for a gateway version of Declude are still alive. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:02 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway Judging by the responses, I suppose that it is inappropriate, at least without approaching Barry about promoting this product here. I don't however believe that the intentions were to snipe customers away from Declude, but instead to provide a value-added solution to those of us that require an address-validating gateway or pre-scanner of some sort. His company has of course previously offered a plug-in for Declude, and publishes a blacklist that many around here are making use of as well. I don't believe that they are looking at this product as a big money maker for them, or even a money maker at all. Even programs like Sniffer has some potential of competing with Declude, though both are of course stronger as a result of working together. It would be good for Declude to offer a gateway solution of some sort or find a partner to do so. Matt Sanford Whiteman wrote: I can't believe what is apparently permissible on this list. Has no one realized that this product is a commercial competitor to IMail or SmarterMail, with no relevance to Declude? Don't try that mail is stopped before Declude has to deal with it attempt at association. It is what it is. A separate, commercial anti-spam gateway with no integral link to the now-struggling Declude. At least Len Conrad's free cookbook for IMGate has the exact same features as the one he charges $500 to install. That's always been the redeeming quality of his plugging model. Guess the game has changed. For everyone who's silently letting this go: how'd you feel if Vamsoft started advertising here? Do you think there aren't other people on the list who've kept quiet about similar products and services? --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release / Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/downloa d/rel ease/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/re lease/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway
I don't however believe that the intentions were to snipe customers away from Declude, No? Not to get some people out of the Declude upgrade path, so they could spend their limited budgets elsewhere? Not to upsell a gateway solution that takes the heat off a Declude infrastructure? The history here speaks for itself. Solid Oak decided to get out of the Declude add-on business, forcing CyberSitter users to either put in the Alligate MTA in place of IMail/Declude or stop using CyberSitter's very effective ruleset. It was a bully move, smart capitalism but a pretty dumb way of expressing selflessness. I have no doubt that the new product is an excellent MTA; that does not make competitive spamming okay. but instead to provide a value-added solution to those of us that require an address-validating gateway or pre-scanner of some sort. What does that even mean? Please: tell me what product that causes the consumer to incur costs above their baseline is not marketed as a value-added solution. Of course it has to be claimed to add value; otherwise, no one would pay for it. That's a basic building block of software commerce. It is not a building block of good-heartedness. Do you want a free address-validating gateway that isn't limited to 10 connections? Use 5XXSINK and MS SMTP, for God's sake. Use Mercury/32. Use MailEnable. His company has of course previously offered a plug-in for Declude, and publishes a blacklist that many around here are making use of as well. That they once offered CyberSitter is material because of the *bad* feelings it left behind (see John's e-mail). It doesn't entitle anyone to come back, _still_ without a Declude add-on or integration, and market another product. If offering an well-regarded DNSBL allows you circumvent the rules of spamming, that's quite a surprise. Can the people who run other respected blacklists just pop on an anti-spam vendor support list and sell competitive -- or at the very least non-vendor-aware -- products? News to me. And I doubt you really support that position, once extended. I don't believe that they are looking at this product as a big money maker for them Any money is big money when you get it unethically. or even a money maker at all. This is a slimmed-down version of a product they already built and are/were compensated for. If they failed to break even when they first put out the product, is it up to us to bail them out in this round? I might feel less inclined to rant on if they weren't a comfortably profitable and well-known software vendor, by Brian's own admission, with CyberSitter. They have the time and money in the bank. They aren't trying to pay past-due bills with this thing; they are trying to recoup some labor investment. So far, that's all both common and necessary in business, and not objectionable in its own right. But where it goes dead wrong is spamming this list, or any competitor's list. I don't care if you only stand to make the equivalent of 5 bucks an hour for the development time you put into the product vs. the number of copies you'll sell. You still need to figure standard marketing, not spamming, into your budget. Even programs like Sniffer has some potential of competing with Declude, though both are of course stronger as a result of working together. Sniffer is a legitimate plug-in for Declude. Pete never markets Assert on this list; if people discover it from getting into the Sniffer community through Declude, that's good viral work by ARM. It's the opposite tactic than that used by Solid Oak, in that ARM can use a Declude-aware product as an entry point into their own mailing lists and other products, some of them even competitive. But Sniffer for Declude is not handicapped vs. the Sniffer part of Assert, showing their good-faith maintenance of different integrations. It's not the same thing at all. It would be good for Declude to offer a gateway solution of some sort or find a partner to do so. Isn't SmarterMail that partner? IMO, we need another MTA, and Computerized Horizons distracted by such work, like a hole in the head. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway
I felt the same way too, Sandy. As one who has endured the ire of some on this list for my occasional and somewhat commercial posts for iPlus Info Browser, which by the way, is not a competitor in any way to either IMail or Declude, I feel especially qualified to say, Wow! That's blatant commercialism if I have ever seen it! I'm thinking about taking out a full page ad now. LOL! Just Kidding! Evans Martin --- EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser - IPB's IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:35 PM To: Brian Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway I can't believe what is apparently permissible on this list. Has no one realized that this product is a commercial competitor to IMail or SmarterMail, with no relevance to Declude? Don't try that mail is stopped before Declude has to deal with it attempt at association. It is what it is. A separate, commercial anti-spam gateway with no integral link to the now-struggling Declude. At least Len Conrad's free cookbook for IMGate has the exact same features as the one he charges $500 to install. That's always been the redeeming quality of his plugging model. Guess the game has changed. For everyone who's silently letting this go: how'd you feel if Vamsoft started advertising here? Do you think there aren't other people on the list who've kept quiet about similar products and services? --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/relea se/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/downl oad/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/ release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up
hi john, we did not changed those settings when we changed from declude 2.x to 3.0.5.23 (queue timer is 20 and tries before returning to sender is also 20) but those queueruns did not even start. also a *.fwd should be processed right away (at least this was my expirience when will still used declude 2.x). when i force imail to deliver (by using send all) it works, so it looks like something is preventing imail from starting the queuerun but not from doing the queuerun. i'm just guessing, but could it be that some of the new declude-processes are blocking parts of the imail processes? best regards markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von John Carter Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. Januar 2006 17:16 An: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Betreff: RE: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up In 7.X on the SMTP panel, you will have tries before returning to sender and queue timer. What are the settings there? John C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guhl, Markus (LDS) Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:48 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up hi randy, since we use imail 7.15 we do not have somethimg like Queuemgr. the funny thing is, that something like that never happend with declude 2.x. it started at the very second we changed to 3.0.5.x. my declude.cfg settings are THREADS 13 CONCATENATELOGS ON #CONCATENATELOGSTHRESHOLD 50 #KEEPINDIVIDUALLOGSON WINSOCKCLEANUP ON WAITFORMAIL 1500 WAITFORTHREADS 150 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 300 as i said, declude is working on it. i do not think that it is a loadproblem. we changed during the christmasholydays (we provide the mailboxes for 6800 schools) and there was nearly no load when we first detected the problem. all incomming mails get processed and delivered (as long as those mails do not hit a forward), but all *.fwd , *.gse and manually moved *.smd files wait in the spool-directory (it looks like imail stopped it's own queue-run). best regards markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von GlobalWeb.net Webmaster Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. Januar 2006 16:13 An: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Betreff: RE: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up We had a similar issue with both 8.15 and 8.2x and Declude 3.x - After calls to both Declude and then IPSwitch on separate occasions, settings were adjusted in the declude.cfg file and the Queuemgr config to better suit our mail loadsfirst up pretty high, then backed down a little lower. Since the last change, we have not had this issue present its ugly head again. What are your settings for Delivery Threads, Retry Threads and declude.cfg settings? Randy GlobalWeb.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guhl, Markus (LDS) Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:01 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up hi, did you report this to support? we have a similar problem (using imail 7.15 with declude 3.0.5.23) with *.fwd, *.gse and manually moved *.smd files. support still doing some research on our problem. but we have some kind of work around: we call smtp32.exe -qr -x as a task every 60 minutes to start the imail queue-run. best regards from germany mfg i.a. gez. markus guhl *** lds nrw ref. 241 tel.: 0211 9449 6947 fax.: 0211 9449 8344 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von A. Clausen Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2006 22:25 An: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Betreff: Re: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up Guhl, Markus (LDS) wrote: hi, are those files backing up regular incomming mails or are they *.fwd and *.gse files? what happens when you put a mail (d*.smd and q*.smd) into spool by hand (something like a false positiv)? which version of imail do you use? I've tried manipulating by hand. Moving data out. If I go to the spool function in Webmail it does appear that hitting send will shove through the message, but other than that, everything seems to just sit on the queue. I can't quite say for sure, but I'm fairly certain this happened after the upgrade of Declude. One curious thing is if I go to into the IMail administrator program and try through there to manually send a message, I get a window showing Declude.exe is trying to push the program. This is a big problem, and I'm just not sure where to turn. I've moved all the queue files out of the queue and putting a few in, but the files just seem to sit there and do nothing. It's quite frustrating, as everything was working fine until the Declude upgrade. -- A. Clausen --- [This E-mail was
