Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: New Multiple Threat Lookup Database test for Declude JunkMail

2004-07-09 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 10:39 AM 7/9/2004, Dan Geiser wrote:
Is this guy serious when he says The test is available for 
download.  What do we have to download?  What version number includes 
this test?  What is the format of the test?  Is it just an IP4R 
test?  What host name do we use?
I found that kinda strange as well, but in blind faith, I did download and 
install it.  So far it seems to be running very well.  Very useful in 
conjunction with SA and Sniffer.  All that I can tell about it is that it 
added a line to my global.cfg.  I'm sure Scott or someone will comment with 
more information shortly.  It is an ip4r test, but I'm not sure what all 
I'm allowed to share...

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: New Multiple Threat Lookup Database test for Declude JunkMail

2004-07-09 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 10:49 AM 7/9/2004, Jay Calvert wrote:
I don't think I have ever had an username and password with 
Declude.  Where do we find this information?

All we ever had to provide as verification was our Hostname.
I never had one either, so I just clicked new user, and it asked me for an 
email address/password to use, and it continued on...

-Russ 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: New Multiple Threat Lookup Database test for Declude JunkMail

2004-07-09 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 01:38 PM 7/9/2004, Dan Horne wrote:
Ah, but you DO recognize that ICMP is a threat, and so you have set
access-rules on it.  That was my main point.  And as Sandy pointed out,
Obviously ICMP _CAN_ be a security risk, but so is having your network 
connected to the Internet.  I know a lot of admins that block ICMP for a 
plethora of reasons.  At this point, this is probably getting a little 
off-topic, but in reality, if you block ICMP, you break IP.  That's the 
bottom line, and nobody can argue that.  So, everyone does what he/she 
needs to do to sleep better at night, and if this includes blocking ICMP, 
then so be it...  But I'm gonna have to agree with Scott when he said I 
can't ping you, fix that problem first!!

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NOW OT: ICMP

2004-07-09 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 03:03 PM 7/9/2004, Dan Horne wrote:
if you block ICMP, you break IP.  That's the bottom line, and nobody can
argue that.
Sorry, but I can and will argue with that.  ICMP relies on IP, not the other
way around.  IP works with or without ICMP.  RFC792, which defines ICMP,
states The purpose of these control messages is to provide feedback about
problems in the communication environment, not to make IP reliable.
Acknowledged!!
It also states that ICMP is actually an integral part of IP, and must be
implemented by every IP module, but that only means that anything that has
an IP address must also understand ICMP.  It does NOT mean (IMO) that I must
accept ICMP across my firewall.
I guess this is open to interpretation.  My interpretation is that if my 
machine is behind an ICMP blocking firewall, ICMP is no longer actually 
implemented on my machine because ICMP no longer works on my 
machine.  Again, just my personal interpretation.

-Russ
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NOW OT: ICMP

2004-07-09 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 03:45 PM 7/9/2004, Doug Anderson wrote:
Actually Russ, ICMP still works. Can you ping 127.0.0.1, the local loop
back? Can you ping other items on your local network?
It comes down intranet vs internet separated by a firewall. Many
corporations kill ICMP externally, but it works fine
internally and is used as intended OR they allow outgoing only on the
intranet and outgoing/incoming to the DMZ.
That is true, but the one case that comes to mind is PMTU.  I've seen first 
hand instances where a corporation blocked all ICMP traffic, and then some 
of my users couldn't access that companies website.  For whatever reason, 
the remote web server had a smaller than normal MTU size, and the PMTU 
message was being blocked by their firewall.  A very hard problem to 
troubleshoot considering the company was a bank that was under constant 
security audits, and they didn't want to send me their log files to look 
over.  I insisted that they have someone qualified look at them, and sure 
enough that was the problem.  This is kind of an uncommon situation, but it 
is a situation in which disabling ICMP broke the IP communication.


Since I deal with security, I get to read firewall logs (real boring). We
get a number of ping attacks (DOS attempts) and/or ping scans (up and down
the range from same ip) per day...script monkey's looking for a way in.
I'm not a security expert, but I do run an IDS, and I see this stuff all 
the time as well.  We also get tons of DOS attempts, and tons of port 
scans.  And really that's just Security through Obscurity, which I'm sure 
you know all about.  I could just as easily map your net work using plain 
old nmap and telling it not to ping thereby circumventing your ICMP 
blocking.  As for DOS attempts, it's just as easy to issue a DOS attack to 
any open port.  But again, every body has their own way of doing things!!

If you ever go through a security audit like we do, you'll understand.
I've never gone through a formal audit, but believe me you, if I do, I will 
fight tooth and nail against blocking every type of ICMP packet.  And I 
would assume that if you're required to have formal security audits, that 
you already have a firewall that's robust enough to pick and choose ICMP 
type/codes.

-Russ
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: New Multiple Threat Lookup Database test for Declude JunkMail

2004-07-09 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 03:59 PM 7/9/2004, Andy Schmidt wrote:
Hi Scott:
 As a rule of thumb, when people ask me for assistance regarding troubles
reaching a computer and I can't ping it, I tell them that it can't be
pinged, and they have to take care of it from there.  If you disable a vital
networking tool, you need to accept the consequences. 
That's fine - IF I asked Computerized Horizon to diagnose connectivity to my
network, I would support that position. But, since we are NOT talking about
that, I really don't see how your comment could remotely apply to the issue
at hand.
The ONLY entity who has any reason to diagnose my connectivity are my
backbone providers - and anyone can ping up to and even across my border
routers to the internal interfaces.  There is no point, even for THEM, to
ping INSIDE my network, because my local Ethernets and its wiring are MY
responsibility - not theirs.  (The only exception might be if they were
managing my border routers for me.)
You've never had to request additional IP blocks from an upstream provider 
have you?? ;)  They will rarely grant you the additional blocks if they 
can't verify that you are efficiently using the blocks that you have.  They 
do this verification with an echo request...  But of course, you can open 
your firewall to only allow them in!!


Anyone who successfully ping across my router has done all the diagnostics
they need to do. I can handle it from there. If anyone wants to ping inside
my network, they'll have to come to my office and then they are more than
happy to send ICMP commands all over my Ethernets.
I suggest people become familiar with the very long list of various ICMP
exploits and DOS attacks, before suggesting that it should be wide open. I
Maybe I'm way off base here, but I was (possibly wrongly) under the 
assumption that the majority of ICMP vulns/sploits were pretty old.  If 
there have been some recent vulns/sploits, I'd love to read more about 
them.  And remember a DDoS or DoS is just as easy to launch against a 
TCP/UDP port as it is against ICMP.

Thanks,
Russ 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] NOW OT: ICMP

2004-07-09 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 04:44 PM 7/9/2004, Andy Schmidt wrote:
 one case that comes to mind is PMTU.  I've seen first
hand instances where a corporation blocked all ICMP traffic, and then some
of my users couldn't access that companies website.  For whatever reason,
the remote web server had a smaller than normal MTU size 
Yes - ICMP should be blocked selectively.  PING clearly is nice to have for
support/diagnostic - it is NOT needed for regular operation.
If Declude wants to make sure that the connection to their DNS server works
- then they should test the connection to a DNS port. Those ports ARE open.
Agreed 100%   :-)
-Russ 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ICMP

2004-07-09 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 04:49 PM 7/9/2004, Andy Schmidt wrote:
 You've never had to request additional IP blocks from an upstream
provider
have you?? 
Do that occasionally - the last time in May.
I fill out the form, and voila, half a day later Quest assigns another
C-class for my T3s.
Boy, that would be nice.  ATT's not quite that easy.  Of course it could be 
that we already had a /21, and I was requesting another /22 within a year.

-Russ
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] OT- Anyone know about this latest attack reported by CNN?

2004-06-25 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 01:50 PM 6/25/2004, Jeff Maze wrote:
Oh darn.. The page didn't open in Opera 7.51 and Norton Antivirus 2004
caught the download.ject worm..  :)
I've just recently been turned on to FireFox 
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ I love it...  Nice, simple, it 
works, and it's not vulnerable to all those silly IE exploits...

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Where is ARIN?

2004-06-02 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 11:21 AM 6/2/2004, Rick Davidson wrote:
Is it me or did ARIN drop of the face of the Internet today?
It appears that they have fallen off the face of the Internet  :)  If you 
go to http://ops.sprint-canada.net/ you can use a bunch of different 
service providers to look at BGP route entries from various route servers, 
and none of the handful that I checked had a route to the arins network.

-Russ 

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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Where is ARIN?

2004-06-02 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 12:43 PM 6/2/2004, Pete McNeil wrote:
No problem getting there from here.
multi-homed through Savvis and Sprint on a pair of T1s.
_M
If you take a look at the BGP looking classes, you can see that the route 
has been flapping, and therefor being penalized.  Usually BGP route 
flapping is indicative of either bad physical connection, or bad 
administrator...  ;)  It appears to be rather sporadic...  I would bet that 
they are aware of the problem, and that they are in the process of fixing it...

-Russ 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question

2004-05-27 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 10:08 AM 5/27/2004, Bridges, Samantha wrote:

I believe you need to add the IP address of the GW server to your hosts
file for resolution. You are pulling out an MX record somewhere that is
saying send to the Trend server. At least that's how I get to my GW
server.
I did - In the \\..\\winnt\system32\drivers\etc I changed the hosts file
to include the line:
64.88.9.99  lsps.org
Gotta be something on their endbut what???
Are you using Imail 8 by chance?  I'm not sure of the order of operations 
when using IMail 8's DNS cache, but is it possible that you need to clear 
out that cache?  Might want to give that a try.

-Russ
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Are these Forged?

2004-05-20 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 02:34 PM 5/20/2004, Mike Wiegers wrote:
Started getting these lately and needed to find out if they are forged and
if Declude  site is setup to handle them as forged.
Exploit-ObjectData trojan
Yep...and
Downloader-IU!zip trojan
Yep...
-Russ 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DLA Test Downloaded

2004-05-18 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 01:28 PM 5/18/2004, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
Kevin,
I tried the link below and was unable to get there???
Change the b in blabeta to a d
-Russ
 at

 http://www.ssc-isp.net/blabeta/DLAApp.zip

 It fixes a few bugs.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ALLRECIPS CONTAINS END not ending?

2004-05-13 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 11:00 AM 5/13/2004, R. Scott Perry wrote:

You are correct -- I'll see if I can get a new interim release online 
which will take care of this.
There is a new interim release 1.79i7 at 
http://www.declude.com/version/interim .  It takes care of the issue of 
the ALLRECIPS filter not working properly.
Thanks Scott... It appears to be doing the trick here!!

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Using RHSBL's for reverse DNS entries

2004-05-13 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 03:38 PM 5/13/2004, Matt wrote:
Scott,

I've been thinking about this for a while as a way to increase spam 
detection and do things that are otherwise more difficult to do, and then 
the other day I found that MailPolice was actually promoting their RHSBL's 
for use on both the Mail From and the reverse DNS entry, and now they have 
a zone that is built to detect DUL users using reverse DNS entries.  I 
think that both additions would be very useful for spam blocking.  Here's 
their current list of zones:
bulk.rhs.mailpolice.com - domains used to send or host 
spam/bulk-sender/unconfirmed mailing lists/advertising sites
porn.rhs.mailpolice.com - domains used to send or host pornographic sites
block.rhs.mailpolice.com - combined porn.rhs.mailpolice.com and 
bulk.rhs.mailpolice.com
dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com - dynamic PPP/DSL/cable reverse DNS hostnames, 
useful for stopping spam from broadband proxies
fraud.rhs.mailpolice.com - domains and IPs hosting fraudulant content, aka 
phishing
Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, but I've been using this for 
sometime now...

MAILPOLICE-BULK 
rhsbl   bulk.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2   7   0
MAILPOLICE-PORN 
rhsbl   porn.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2   10  0

Is this different from what you're trying to do?

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Using RHSBL's for reverse DNS entries

2004-05-13 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 04:01 PM 5/13/2004, Matt wrote:
Currently, to the best of my knowledge, 'rhsbl' tests in Declude only work 
on the Mail From and not the reverse DNS value.  I'm interested in the 
reverse DNS value to be added.
Aha... I figured it was something obvious...

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ALLRECIPS CONTAINS END not ending?

2004-05-12 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 02:09 PM 5/12/2004, Matt wrote:
Scott,

I have a filter called FOREIGN that I have been defeating with END 
statements for certain domains with international traffic like so

- Foreign.txt -
ALLRECIPSENDCONTAINS@clientdomain.com
Matt,

Are you using an interim version of Declude?  I just recently had this 
problem, and contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]  They told me there was a bug with the 
ALLRECIPS in the current interim, and that it would be resolved in a future 
interim.  For now, I've had to return back to the latest beta.

If you hear something different, please let me know.

Thanks,
Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ALLRECIPS CONTAINS END not ending?

2004-05-12 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 02:31 PM 5/12/2004, R. Scott Perry wrote:

Are you using an interim version of Declude?  I just recently had this 
problem, and contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]  They told me there was a bug with the 
ALLRECIPS in the current interim, and that it would be resolved in a 
future interim.  For now, I've had to return back to the latest beta.

If you hear something different, please let me know.
Ah, I like it when customers are able to take care of things that I forget 
about.  :)

You are correct -- I'll see if I can get a new interim release online 
which will take care of this.
Not to start a huge long thread about interims and such, but if you can get 
this interim released, do you know if that little problem with the zip 
files (zipped but didn't abide by the zipped rules) getting caught by 
banext ezip will be fixed as well...

Thanks,
Russ
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamc32 installation

2004-04-20 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 04:53 PM 4/19/2004, Markus Gufler wrote:
After installing the latest release of cygwin (1.5.9-1) I can open the
command prompt but I cant start cpan
I've tried:

bash-2.05b$ ls egrep
egrep
Ok, egrep is in the current directory

bash-2.05b$ egrep
Usage: egrep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...
Try `egrep --help' for more information.
Ok, executing this file is working fine.

bash-2.05b$ ls cpan
cpan
So as I can understand cpan is in the current directory in the same manner
as egrep.
bash-2.05b$ cpan
bash: cpan: command not found
Maybe I'm off here, but have you tried ./cpan??

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Server Recommendation

2004-03-12 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 11:35 AM 3/12/2004, TC Online Support wrote:
We are currently looking to upgrade our mail server.  Lately the
processing of the CPU has causing the SMTP to be working real slow,
causing a lot of timeouts.  We currently we are running a P3 1.133GHz
with 512MB RAM.  We are looking to upgrade to a dual processor.
I was wondering if anybody was willing to share what type of server
hardware they are using and if anybody had any recommendations on the
CPU power and RAM to have optimal performance.
I had this same problem about 2 months ago, and asked a similar question to 
this list.  The advice I personally liked best, and the advice that I took, 
was to build an inexpensive gateway box to deny the spam before it got to 
my mailbox server.  We bought 2 fairly inexpensive Compaq rack servers, 
about $2300 a piece, and we are deny a good portion of mail at those boxes 
before they ever make it to our mailbox server.  None of our servers are 
taxed at all anymore.  Our current mailbox server is a dual 900 MHz machine 
with 1.5 GB of RAM, the spool partition is on a mirrored 15k rpm hardware 
raid card with 128MB of on-board cache, separate from our mailbox and app 
directory.  We process about 200,000 emails a day.  This machine was badly 
taxed.  We added the two 2.04 GHz with 512 MB of memory in front of this 
one, and now nobody is working up a sweet!!  This set up works great for 
us.  Just as a side note, our gateway servers are running 
FreeBSD/postfix/spamassasin/clamav, but it could just as easily run 
win2k/imail/declude/sniffer.

-Russ 

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[Declude.JunkMail] Gateway Mailservers and IPBypass

2004-03-01 Thread Russ Uhte (Lists)
I've setup a gateway mailserver using postfix and amavisd.  I want to make 
sure that the IP for this gateway server is skipped, but I'm kinda confused 
since the postfix box hands off the message a few times.  Below are the 
received headers from one of the messages, and also what I put in my 
global.cfg.  Does this all look okay?  It seems to be working, but I want 
to check.

Thanks,
Russ
Received: from mx2.parallax.ws [12.161.104.8] by mail.parallax.ws with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.05) id A0D5F731012C; Mon, 01 Mar 2004 08:55:33 -0500
Received: from localhost (localhost.parallax.ws [127.0.0.1])
by mx2.parallax.ws (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12635A21
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Gateway Mailservers and IPBypass

2004-03-01 Thread Russ Uhte (Lists)
At 09:09 AM 3/1/2004, R. Scott Perry wrote:

I've setup a gateway mailserver using postfix and amavisd.  I want to 
make sure that the IP for this gateway server is skipped, but I'm kinda 
confused since the postfix box hands off the message a few times.  Below 
are the received headers from one of the messages, and also what I put in 
my global.cfg.  Does this all look okay?  It seems to be working, but I 
want to check.
In this case:

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The actual IP is 64.4.49.5.  The IPs in Received: headers before that are 
12.161.104.8 and 127.0.0.1.  In this case, I would recommend using HOP 
0, IPBYPASS 12.161.104.8, and IPBYPASS 127.0.0.1.  So:

IPBYPASS12.161.104.8
IPBYPASS127.0.0.1
This is exactly what I would use (assuming you are using the default HOP 0).
That I am!!  Thanks a million.

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] **OT** Intrusion Detection Software

2004-02-04 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 10:02 AM 2/4/2004, Sharyn Schmidt wrote:

I have been asked to research Intrusion Detection Software.

I have done a Google search, but most of what I see is an actual appliance.

All I am looking for is software that will notify me when something 
suspicious attempts to hit our network.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Sharyn
As other's have already suggested, Snort.  It is by far the best.  It will 
easily run on either *nix or windows.  I ran it on windows for about 6 
months, and then decided it would be easier to keep updated on a *nix 
platform.  I found FreeBSD to be the best option for me. YMMV.

-Russ

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Manual

2004-01-23 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 03:36 PM 1/23/2004, Mike K wrote:
Scott:

Your abilities as a writer are fine. I have seem many of your explanations
on use of features and for most I think they would suffice. They just need
to be put in the online manual at the same time you post a message to the
list.
I agree that beta features should not be in the main manual but could be
listed in a separate change.log file or in a beta/interim release file.
I agree with this completely.  Just a simple change.log file that has the 
skeleton for the added test, and maybe just a brief definition, would be 
more than sufficient.  I would imagine that Scott and his boys (and 
possibly girls.. :) probably keep some type of log like this anyways.  But 
definitely keep this stuff out of the main manual.

My .02.

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT zip from command prompt

2004-01-15 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 08:13 AM 1/15/2004, ISPhuset Nordic AS wrote:
Hi a little off topic

Anyone knowing off a free or nearly free zip utility which can pack some 
files to a zip archive.

unpacking isn't a problem

It is a must that it can run for a command prompt
WinRar.  It's command line features blow WinZip out of the water.  Very 
full featured, I think it's about $29.00.

-Russ 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT zip from command prompt

2004-01-15 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 08:47 AM 1/15/2004, ISPhuset Nordic AS wrote:
Yes i know but i hvae to distribute this on 150 boxes and that is a lot of 
licenses :-)

so free or nearly free are the keyword here
Ohhh... I think WinRar is like $5.40 a liscense in that case, which is 
still pretty expensive.  I _believe_ the unxutils have this capability, and 
they are free.  http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/.  Plus, you don't have to 
actually install them, you can just copy the directory to the machines.

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Does Diskeeper Help on an imail server

2004-01-14 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 12:47 PM 1/14/2004, Timothy Bohen wrote:
My imail server is obviously hugely fragmented. If I spend the money on 
diskeeper will it be able to keep up with the fragmentation on a very busy 
imail server? I know this isn't a diskeeper mailing list but I always get 
the best/fastest answers on this list.
Thanks
I generally process about 200,000 messages per day (or roughly 
2/sec.)  Diskeeper made a world of difference on my server.  I schedule it 
to do smart scheduling on off peak hours, and it has no problem keeping 
up.  Well worth the money in my opinion.

-Russ 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Does Diskeeper Help on an imail server

2004-01-14 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 01:54 PM 1/14/2004, Omar K. wrote:
This is good stuff, other than the obvious scheduling capability, does
diskeeper do a better job than the built-in defrag in windows server?
I found that I had to run windows defrag a few times before it would 
effectively defrag the drive.  By the time it was defragged, it was time to 
defrag again.  So I use the scheduling feature in diskeeper, and I don't 
have to worry about it anymore.

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Does Diskeeper Help on an imail server

2004-01-14 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 02:29 PM 1/14/2004, Matt wrote:
I'm wondering about similar things along these lines.  I assume that 
Diskeeper does a better job and is more efficient and has nice reporting 
tools, but is this more of a convenience for those with lower volume 
servers?  I'm particularly interested in the effect on RAID 5.
I've never really used the reporting tools, and I don't know that they're 
really all that great.  As far as my other servers (web, dns, file...) I 
just use the built in defrag utility, and that works great on those servers.

-Russ 

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Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamD/SpamC for Declude

2004-01-13 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 05:05 PM 1/12/2004, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
 I guess that was a noble try... but it didn't work.

Well, it probably worked, just not enough. :)
Yeah, I'll buy that! :)


 I'm  going  to try to separate the spamd/spamc processes and see how
 that  goes.
That  will alleviate the utilization issue, for sure. Depending on the
age  of  your  server,  you  should  think  about adding an additional
processor.  I  find that that's one fun part about running mail on old
boxes  with  new disks: as it gives you ability to scale up processing
on  the  cheap  as  needed,  while  still  giving peak performance for
disk-starved  tasks.  A lot of people inadvertently err on the side of
processor power by buying new boxes and ignoring DASD optimization.
Unfortunately, this particular server is out of space for new drives 
internally.  Now realistically, I could rebuild it and do it right, and it 
would probably last a very long time.  When I got the server, it had 4 
drives configured for Raid 5 in a single logical drive with 3 
partitions.  I added two more drives in a mirrored set, and moved the spool 
to this.  That helped drastically.  I may look into external scsi drives...


 I  know  this  server is grossly underpowered for what I'm trying to
 do,  but I inherited it this way, and I don't think I'm gonna get to
 buy a new one here anytime soon. The person before didn't understand
 how to spec out a mailserver.
Gotcha.

One  thing  you should know about that I'm building into SPAMC32 right
now  is  a  SKIPIFWEIGHT  option  that  will return 0 immediately if a
(Declude) weight has already been exceeded, thus saving processing for
way out-of-range spam.
Now that would be awesome.  If there's anything I can do to help, let me 
know.  I don't know a much about VB (I think that's what it's written in?) 
but I'd be willing to help in anyway I can.

Thanks,
Russ
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamD/SpamC for Declude

2004-01-13 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 05:52 PM 1/12/2004, Matt wrote:
Russ,

I'm not sure what actions will result in bypassing Declude Virus, but HOLD 
and DELETE surely do.  Since over 80% of E-mail is spam on the typical 
system, that should save you a great deal over processing everything with 
Virus, though JunkMail is where most of the processing goes when you are 
running custom filters.  I'm not sure if you have upgraded to 1.77i7+ yet, 
but the SKIPIFWEIGHT, MAXWEIGHT and END functionality was a huge savings 
for my server.  Even re-ordering your custom filters to put the bigger 
hogs with the least impact and rarest hits at the bottom was a big help 
with SKIPIFWEIGHT.  Probably more than 80% of my spam never hits a custom 
filter, and 97% of my spam never hits every filter file.
Yeah, I'm currently running 1.77i15 as of this morning, and I've been using 
your latest filters.  Previously, I had to remove your old filters due to 
processing limitations, but the new ones are great!!

Yeah, I guess it makes since that if I'm stopping 160,000 of the message 
with Junkmail, that I now only have to scan 40,000 messages for virii.


I just upgraded to IMail 8 and am using WHITELIST AUTH and PREWHITELIST 
ON, and that also saves on processing.  I'm nowhere near your utilization, 
but I hate to ever see my processors pegged due to the fact that the 
machine currently performs many tasks besides E-mail.
I haven't yet turned those options on, but I guess I probably should.  I 
hate to see a server this busy as well, but fortunately, all it does is 
mail.  I'm still debating on a gateway mail server (like IMGate)...  Still 
weighing all the Pros and Cons to try and determine if it's worth my time 
to learn a whole new mail server software package.  Only time will tell...

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMC32 (SpamAssassin SPAMC for Declude) 0.5.55 released

2004-01-13 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 03:57 AM 1/13/2004, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
SPAMC32 0.5.55 is available for download at

http://www.mailmage.com/download/software/freeutils/spamc32/release

Users  anticipating  the  big RegEx rollout will have to wait a little
longer,  but there are some very powerful new features and performance
improvements in this release:
-  You  can  add  a  SKIPIFWEIGHT-type  threshold  to  ensure  that no
SpamAssassin  tests  will  be  run  if  the  message is already over a
certain  weight:  SPAMC32 will pass (0) such messages immediately. See
the -cw/-sw combo.
Well, this did help considerably... but not quite enough.  I moved the 
SpamD server onto a server that currently does nothing but DNS.  It is a 
dual PIII 1GHz machine that usually runs between 0 and 5 % 
utilization.  With SpamD running on it, it averaged about 70% 
utilization.  Now my mailserver wasn't noticeably affected by the SpamC 
process.  That was using a -sw entry of 20 (my hold weight)  So, I think if 
I want to utilize SA, I'm going to have to do something drastic...  I'm 
open to suggestions if anyone has any!!  :)

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMC32 (SpamAssassin SPAMC for Declude) 0.5.55 released

2004-01-13 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 11:30 AM 1/13/2004, Bill Landry wrote:
Russ, a not too drastic option would be to run SA on a linux mail gateway
sitting in front of your IMail server and then track the hit=xx.x header
counts with Declude.  That's what we do here, and it has worked great for
us.  With this configuration you could also set IMail to gateway all
outbound mail to the SA box for all external mail delivery, thus taking this
Bill... This is what I would like to do, but there are a couple 
issues/questions I have.

1.  How do I reject messages with an invalid RCPT TO: command?
2.  What size machine do I need?  Let's say I process 200,000 messages a 
day, and I want to plan for 20% growth before this box is retired.  I 
understand that fast hard drives and proper partitioning are still 
extremely important, but what about processor/memory requirements?  I'm 
guessing this would be pretty high need as well.

Thanks,
Russ 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 1.77i12 Bug: Aliases Counted in BYPASSMULTIRECP

2004-01-12 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 09:23 AM 1/12/2004, R. Scott Perry wrote:
The *ONLY* changes that were made were [1] To move the Msg failed 
logging from LOGLEVEL LOW to LOGLEVEL HIGH, and [2] To add a one-line 
summary to LOGLEVEL LOW.  No other changes were made.  LOGLEVEL MID is not 
involved (except that it will also get the one-line summary, as it 
incorporates everything from LOGLEVEL LOW).
I think I heard mention at one time for there to be a line added to the 
LOGLEVEL LOW for the total weight of the message.  As anymore thought gone 
into this?

-Russ 

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[Declude.JunkMail] SpamD/SpamC for Declude

2004-01-12 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
I'm trying to get this set up on a couple of test machines.  It appears as 
if I have spamd up and running successfully.  I can telnet to the ip 
address of the spamd server on port 783, and I see the message logged by 
spamd on the console.  However, when I go to run spamc from a machine, it 
never connects.  It just shows Loading... and then nothing.  Any ideas.

Thanks,
Russ
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamD/SpamC for Declude

2004-01-12 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 10:02 AM 1/12/2004, Russ Uhte \(Lists\) wrote:
I'm trying to get this set up on a couple of test machines.  It appears as 
if I have spamd up and running successfully.  I can telnet to the ip 
address of the spamd server on port 783, and I see the message logged by 
spamd on the console.  However, when I go to run spamc from a machine, it 
never connects.  It just shows Loading... and then nothing.  Any ideas.
Okay... forget this question...  RTFM...

Now the important question...  for those of you using this, what percentage 
of your hold weight are you giving this test?  Do most of you install SpamD 
on your mail server, or do you use the TCP/IP feature of SpamC?

Thanks,
Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamD/SpamC for Declude

2004-01-12 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 11:10 AM 1/12/2004, Nick Hayer wrote:
Hi Russ,

I have it set for 8. I hold on 10 delete on 30. It runs on my
mailserver.
Awesome!!  When you installed all the CPAN stuff, did you also install the 
HTML::parser?  It told me when I went to make the spamassassin package, 
that it was missing.  I just installed it, and all seems okay...

-Russ 

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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamD/SpamC for Declude

2004-01-12 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 12:39 PM 1/12/2004, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
 Okay... forget this question... RTFM...

Wow, and here I thought I was still working on the manual. :)
Yeah... not really the manual, but the spamd -? works too!! :)

I just installed it on my server which is a pretty busy server.  I think 
someone (you?) were looking for some performance stats, so here ya 
go.  This server normally processes about 200,000 emails a day, running 
sniffer, most of the MailPure filters, and antivirus.  Normally the 
processor utilization during peak times is right around 40-50% on a 1 
minute average.  Once I started the SpamD daemon and configured Declude to 
use SpamC, and disabled my filters, my processor utilization went straight 
to 100% and stayed there.  I'm going to (hopefully) find a box to through 
FreeBSD on and install the SpamD engine on it.  I'll let you know what I see.

Thanks,
Russ 

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Re[3]: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamD/SpamC for Declude

2004-01-12 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 01:23 PM 1/12/2004, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
 This  server  normally processes about 200,000 emails a day, running
 sniffer,  most  of the MailPure filters, and antivirus. Normally the
 processor  utilization during peak times is right around 40-50% on a
 1  minute  average.
That's pretty high to start out. Try lowering the priority of Perl.exe
to Low and see if the server stabilizes.
I guess that was a noble try... but it didn't work.  I'm going to try to 
separate the spamd/spamc processes and see how that goes.  I know this 
server is grossly underpowered for what I'm trying to do, but I inherited 
it this way, and I don't think I'm gonna get to buy a new one here anytime 
soon.  The person before didn't understand how to spec out a mailserver.

On a related note, does anyone know if there is any performance gain in 
having Junkmail or Virus running first?  We currently scan for JunkMail 
first just to get an accurate count of the spam we receive.

Thanks,
Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Overflow

2003-12-22 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 10:34 AM 12/22/2003, John Tolmachoff \(Lists\) wrote:
If any one is experiencing the overflow folder filling up and it is not
attributable to server load, please contact me. I am having this problem and
am narrowing it down.
John,
Do you run Sniffer?  If so, are you running the wide beta release?  If so, 
make sure you're using the latest version.  We saw this with all versions 
except the latest which I believe is 2-2b6.  Which has been running as 
smooth as silk!!

-Russ  

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[Declude.JunkMail] Log Analysis using unxutils

2003-11-24 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
Greetings,
I feel like I've been making progress teaching myself a lot about the log 
files, and the unix tools.  I've created a batch file that will hopefully 
count the total number of viruses, the total number of vulnerabilities, a 
few spam tests, and finally the total number of messages.  I'm passing this 
to the list in hopes that it may help someone else, and also in hopes that 
someone will say, Hey, you can't do it like that! or Hey, here's a 
better way to do that!  So if I'm missing something, please let me know.

Thanks,
Russ
REM Virus Section

grep INFECTED s:\vir10*.log | grep -cv Vulnerability

grep Vulnerability s:\vir10*.log | cut -d   -f 3 | usort | uniq | grep -c Q

REM Spam Section

egrep -i  Msg failed WEIGHT20 | Msg failed WEIGHT30 | Msg failed SNIFFER  
s:\dec10*.log

grep -ic  Msg failed WEIGHT20  c:\batch\temp

grep -ic  Msg failed WEIGHT30  c:\batch\temp

grep -ic  Msg failed SNIFFER  c:\batch\temp

REM Total Message Section

grep -i SMTPD s:\sys10*.log | grep -ci rcpt to:

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)

Well, my answer was that Declude can, but the risks of accidentally deleting
good mail outweighed the convenience of not having to hit delete.  She went
over my head and got the bosses on her side.  Now I've gotta have a meeting
with them and come up with a solution.  Any suggestions?


I'm by no stretch of the word an expert, and I'm sure you'll get better 
advice from others on this list, but I would think the best option would be 
to have a per-user file for her account, and just apply the delete action 
to her account.  That might work...  Let us know what you come up with.

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [OT] iMail 6.06 behind firewall

2003-10-06 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 07:42 AM 10/6/2003, Jeff Maze - Hostmaster wrote:
I know this is off-topic, but I've attempted numerous times to put our
server behind a firewall, but upon doing so, the queue grows to an enormous
proportion and the only way to clear it is to remove it from behind the
firewall.
Besides the normal ports 25, 110 and 80 (for web mail), do I also have to
keep 1024-65525 open as well for iMail to work properly?  Seems stupid to do
since normal standardized e-mail should only use the above mentioned three
ports (sendmail does).


Where does your DNS server sit?  If it isn't behind the firewall, you're 
gonna have to open up ports for DNS.  I would recommend udp from mail IP 
src port 1024-65525 to DNS ip dst port 53.  And also the opposite of that, 
udp from DNS IP src port 53 to mail ip dst port 1024-65525.  As a side 
note, you won't need the reverse rule if your firewall can do UDP stateful 
inspection.

Also, a big clue would be in your IMail logs.  Post a clip of those, and 
I'm sure you'll find your answer.

-Russ 

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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Classless Reverse DNS Delegation and DNSStuff.com

2003-09-09 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
Greetings-

I've attempted to setup classless reverse DNS delegation for a customer of 
mine.  I think I have it done correctly, but I don't understand exactly 
what I'm seeing on www.dnsstuff.com when I do a reverse DNS query.  The 
specific address I'm testing is 12.161.105.129.  It appears that if 
ns2.parallax.ws (my secondary, Windows NT NS server) resolves the request, 
all is okay.  However if ns1.parallax.ws (my primary, Windows 2k NS server) 
resolves the request, I get the message that says An error occurred: I got 
a CNAME with no NS record.  But both servers are setup identical (I 
think!!)  Note... the error from ns2.parallax.ws is expected at this time!!

Any inputs??

Thanks,
Russ
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Report System

2003-08-01 Thread Russ Uhte (Lists)

If you would like to try it out let me know and I will make it available..
I'll jump on the bandwagon.  I'd love to try that out as well.

-Russ 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS and MX record question

2003-07-18 Thread Russ Uhte (Lists)

What is happening here is that the spammer is using their own software 
(spamware) to send the spam.  Knowing that many people don't scan E-mail 
that comes through their backup mailserver(s), their spamware chooses to 
try the backup mailservers first.

If your Exchange server isn't running any anti-spam or anti-virus, I would 
recommend removing it from the MX record.
Here's my .02.  Usually this spamware will do a normal DNS lookup and 
choose the MX record with the highest priority (which is wrong.)  Make a 
4th MX record that has the highest priority, and point it at your primary 
mail server.  This will usually trick the spamware into sending to your 
primary mail server, and still keep your redundancy with real mailservers!!

-Russ

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[Declude.JunkMail] REDIRECT configuration

2003-07-09 Thread Russ Uhte (Lists)
Finally getting around to updating my Declude Junkmail config.  I would 
like to use the REDIRECT command, but want to make sure I'm using it 
correctly before throwing myself to the wolves! :)

1.  Using the REDIRECT command, I don't need the domain folders.  For 
example:  I'm a mail gateway for example.com.  I currently have a 
x:\imail\declude\example.com folder.  Can this folder can go away when the 
REDIRECT command is used properly?

2.  In the archives, ( This message specifically 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg09131.html)  it 
says to put the configuration in the global.cfg file.  However, if I'm 
reading the manual correctly, it says to put the configuration in 
$default$.junkmail.

Just a little guidance please!!

Thanks in Advance,
Russ
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] REDIRECT configuration

2003-07-09 Thread Russ Uhte (Lists)

2.  In the archives, ( This message specifically 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg09131.html) 
it says to put the configuration in the global.cfg file.  However, if I'm 
reading the manual correctly, it says to put the configuration in 
$default$.junkmail.
It should actually be the $default$.JunkMail file (technically, it can go 
in any file, but it needs to be whichever one Declude JunkMail is going to 
use to determine the actions to take on the E-mail, which would normally 
be the $default$.JunkMail file for incoming E-mail).
So if it's a domain that is not housed on my server, the proper place for 
the redirect is in the global.cfg?  Because the global.cfg is the file 
responsible for actions on this type of email!!

Thanks,
Russ 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] REDIRECT configuration

2003-07-09 Thread Russ Uhte (Lists)
At 02:39 PM 7/9/2003, you wrote:

I had this problem with a domain that was not on my server and wanted to use
REDIRECT to point ot another junkmail file. But it always used the outbound
settings in the global.cfg.
You said when I had the issue you were going to have this fixed in a future
beta release. Has it been fixed
The REDIRECT option was set up that way by design, and I'm not aware of 
any plans to change the behavior.
So if I was only going to use the REDIRECT command with those types of 
domain, don't worry about it?  I should just stay with the tried and true 
method?  I'll agree with Kevin, this would be a nice feature for 
store-and-forward domains.  That way I don't have to maintain a bunch of 
separate folders and files.

Thanks,
Russ  

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[Declude.JunkMail] Domlist or other Log tool

2003-06-26 Thread Russ Uhte (Lists)
What I'm looking for is a way to monitor store and forward domains.  It 
appears that the domlist tool doesn't count messages for these domains.  Am 
I missing something with domlist, or does anybody know of a tool that will 
be able to give me stats like the following:  Total number of messages 
(smtpd) for example.com.  Total number of messages (smtp-) for 
example.com.  How many virus were stopped by Declude for example.com. And 
finally how many messages failed WEIGHT20 test for example.com.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks,
Russ
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