RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New feature
> It should be mentioned that Imail auto folder creatation > within a users > login is only available with Imail 7.1x. correct? Is it possible to use a POP3 client (Specifically Netscape Mail) to view these auto-created folders, or can they only be viewed via web and Imap? -Russ --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Confidence
We thought about that, but our users don't want it.. Period... (So they say) -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jcochran@;naplesgov.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Confidence > That is exactly what we do... But we don't delete weight20, we route > it to a mail box, that way if a customer calls, we can retrieve the > email, look at all the test it failed, if it needs whitelisted, we can > do that, and then forward the message on... We've had 0 problems with > it!! -Russ What about forwarding to a second mailbox for the client and allowing them to look it up or delete it? Jeff --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Confidence
Weight17 --Sorry-- As far as people with misconfigured mail servers... That will NEVER happen... As long as there are company's trying to save money by hiring an incompetent admin, there will be misconfigured email servers...lol We don't sift through the messages that get routed, we just leave them in a mailbox for about 30 days kind of as an archive... Then if a customer calls and says, "Hey I registered for ebay, but I never received my email confirmation." I can do a search for all emails in that mail box with the header of x-declude-recipient with my customers email address... HTH -Russ -Original Message- From: Trent M. Davenport [mailto:trent.davenport@;whtvcable.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Confidence What is it exactly that you do? A Weight of 7 or 17? I wish I had the manpower to sift through all the messages. Hopefully as SPAM blocking becomes more common, people with misconfigured mail servers will get them fixed so whitelists are not necessary. Trent --- Trent M. Davenport - Systems Administrator Northern Television Systems Ltd - WHTV 203-4103 4th Avenue, Whitehorse, YT Y1A 1H6 (867) 393-2225 X204, (867) 393-2224 FAX www.whtvcable.com <http://www.whtvcable.com> ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:trent.davenport@;whtvcable.com> ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner@;declude.com]On Behalf Of Uhte, Russ Sent: November 8, 2002 10:58 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Confidence Trent, That is exactly what we do... But we don't delete weight20, we route it to a mail box, that way if a customer calls, we can retrieve the email, look at all the test it failed, if it needs whitelisted, we can do that, and then forward the message on... We've had 0 problems with it!! -Russ -Original Message- From: Trent M. Davenport [mailto:trent.davenport@;whtvcable.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Confidence So, after seeing the last 2 months that message sniffer is around 90% accurate, what confidence has everyone put in it? We offer our clients 2 levels of SPAM blocking. Regular (using a WEIGHT20) and Aggressive (using a WEIGHT10). Because we're an ISP, we have to be really careful about deleting legitimate email. We purchased Message Sniffer and implemented it and it is catching a bunch of messages, but the default weight is 7. With the percentage as high as it is, I'd like to give it a 17 so that if a message fails it plus 1 other test, it'll fail the regular test. Need I be that cautious? Just looking for feedback from other users of Sniffer. Trent --- Trent M. Davenport - Systems Administrator Northern Television Systems Ltd - WHTV 203-4103 4th Avenue, Whitehorse, YT Y1A 1H6 (867) 393-2225 X204, (867) 393-2224 FAX www.whtvcable.com ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Confidence
Trent, That is exactly what we do... But we don't delete weight20, we route it to a mail box, that way if a customer calls, we can retrieve the email, look at all the test it failed, if it needs whitelisted, we can do that, and then forward the message on... We've had 0 problems with it!! -Russ -Original Message- From: Trent M. Davenport [mailto:trent.davenport@;whtvcable.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Confidence So, after seeing the last 2 months that message sniffer is around 90% accurate, what confidence has everyone put in it? We offer our clients 2 levels of SPAM blocking. Regular (using a WEIGHT20) and Aggressive (using a WEIGHT10). Because we're an ISP, we have to be really careful about deleting legitimate email. We purchased Message Sniffer and implemented it and it is catching a bunch of messages, but the default weight is 7. With the percentage as high as it is, I'd like to give it a 17 so that if a message fails it plus 1 other test, it'll fail the regular test. Need I be that cautious? Just looking for feedback from other users of Sniffer. Trent --- Trent M. Davenport - Systems Administrator Northern Television Systems Ltd - WHTV 203-4103 4th Avenue, Whitehorse, YT Y1A 1H6 (867) 393-2225 X204, (867) 393-2224 FAX www.whtvcable.com ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Two JunkMail questions please...
I'm not seeing any changes in performance and we receive roughly 1,300,000 messages a month total!! -Russ -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:david@;wiss.co.uk] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Two JunkMail questions please... Has anyone found MessageSniffer to add any significant CPU load before/after implementation? David WiSS Limited -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner@;declude.com] On Behalf Of Uhte, Russ Sent: 04 November 2002 17:06 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Two JunkMail questions please... Joe, I can't comment for anyone else, but I'd like to give my $.02 on question 1. We've recently purchased MessageSniffer, and its results have been outstanding. We use a weight of 20 as our breaking point on when a message can no longer be delivered. I've set MessageSniffer with a weight of 17. We've almost completely eliminated spam!!! -Russ -Original Message- From: Joe Wolf / CompuService [mailto:joe@;csgo.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Two JunkMail questions please... First I'm still a newbie to JunkMail so forgive my ignorance. Two issues to cover: #1I am basicly using the default settings for JunkMail. I have had a few valid messages marked as spam, but I still get quite a bit of spam thru that I wish to get rid of. Does anyone have a template, or suggestion on what settings work the best for JunkMail? I know that I can customize anything I want, but at the same time I don't want to make it my life to investigate which database is best, etc. Any help would be appreciated. #2My mail server does quite a bit of list serving. I've noticed that since I installed JunkMail my server is running further and further behind. I've gone from nearly immediate delivery of messages to nearly an hour behind. Is the Declude replacement to the Ipswitch mail handler that much more inefficient, or does JunkMail just take alot more processing? My CPU utilization chart is not too high, but it take so long to process messages. Thanks, Joe --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Two JunkMail questions please...
Joe, I can't comment for anyone else, but I'd like to give my $.02 on question 1. We've recently purchased MessageSniffer, and its results have been outstanding. We use a weight of 20 as our breaking point on when a message can no longer be delivered. I've set MessageSniffer with a weight of 17. We've almost completely eliminated spam!!! -Russ -Original Message- From: Joe Wolf / CompuService [mailto:joe@;csgo.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Two JunkMail questions please... First I'm still a newbie to JunkMail so forgive my ignorance. Two issues to cover: #1I am basicly using the default settings for JunkMail. I have had a few valid messages marked as spam, but I still get quite a bit of spam thru that I wish to get rid of. Does anyone have a template, or suggestion on what settings work the best for JunkMail? I know that I can customize anything I want, but at the same time I don't want to make it my life to investigate which database is best, etc. Any help would be appreciated. #2My mail server does quite a bit of list serving. I've noticed that since I installed JunkMail my server is running further and further behind. I've gone from nearly immediate delivery of messages to nearly an hour behind. Is the Declude replacement to the Ipswitch mail handler that much more inefficient, or does JunkMail just take alot more processing? My CPU utilization chart is not too high, but it take so long to process messages. Thanks, Joe --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weird Internet Headers
Duh... Been a long day, I was reading those last headers wrong!! Okay... Now it's time to contact their sysadmin!!! Thanks, Russ -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:horizons@;declude.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Weird Internet Headers >What I don't understand is how the mail is getting to my server >(mail.parallax.ws)... >Received: from parallax.ws (mail.parallax.ws [12.161.104.4]) by > scotty.rp-l.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service > Version 5.5.2650.21) > id VT8738AL; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:59:34 -0500 The recipient received the E-mail from Exchange, that received the E-mail from your mailserver. >Received: from dustpuppy [194.151.108.80] by parallax.ws with ESMTP > (SMTPD32-7.13) id ABB0446D010E; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:59:44 -0500 Your mailserver received the E-mail from 194.151.108.80 (which claims to be a host called "dustpuppy", which isn't valid, and would cause the HELOBOGUS test to fail). >Received: from cerberus.hollandcolours.com (cerberus.hollandcolours.com >[194.151.108.67]) > by dustpuppy (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g9VLm4Q31395; > Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:48:04 +0100 (CET) "dustpuppy" supposedly received the E-mail from 194.151.108.67, which claims to be cerberus.hollandcolours.com (but, as we know, that can easily be forged just as dustpuppy did). The key is that the Received: headers are in the order that the message was sent through, with the most recent mailserver at the top. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Weird Internet Headers
Can anyone explain these headers to me... Here's what we are doing: Mail.parallax.ws is our mail server. It acts as a gateway for scotty.rp-l.com. So I know that much. The rp-l.com domain wanted their filtering strict, so we set it at weight 10 to deny delivery. So I'm okay with that. What I don't understand is how the mail is getting to my server (mail.parallax.ws) It looks like the client, which is dustbunny, creates the email, sends it to the email server, which is cerberus.hollandcolours.com and then instead of cerberus.hollandcolours.com sending the mail to my mail server, dustbunny sends it. Is this normal with Lotus Notes (I'm not at all familiar with Lotus!!) Any ways... Following are the headers!! Received: from parallax.ws (mail.parallax.ws [12.161.104.4]) by scotty.rp-l.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id VT8738AL; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:59:34 -0500 Received: from dustpuppy [194.151.108.80] by parallax.ws with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.13) id ABB0446D010E; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:59:44 -0500 Received: from cerberus.hollandcolours.com (cerberus.hollandcolours.com [194.151.108.67]) by dustpuppy (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g9VLm4Q31395; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:48:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: test To: "McClure, Rhonda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.10 March 22, 2002 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] m> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:57:27 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes_Main/ApServer/Apeldoorn/Holland Colours(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 31-10-2002 20:59:20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 194.151.108.80 with no reverse DNS entry. X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 12 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10. X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain dustpuppy has no MX/A records. X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.151.108.80] X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Thanks in Advance!!! -Russ --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
