[Declude.JunkMail] Date Header wrong - REALLY?

2002-09-18 Thread Andy Schmidt

Scott-

why do I get  http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c020020c for
this:


Received: from mta541.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.23] by hm-software.com
  (SMTPD32-7.07) id A0461AEF00BE; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:29:42 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SPAM: [See Headers]  Delivery failure
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Declude-Note: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client [c020020c].
See: http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c020020c
X-RBL-Warning: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam [c020020c]. See:
http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c020020c
X-Declude: Version 1.60; Df0461aef00be8b36.SMD from mta541.mail.yahoo.com
[216.136.131.23]
X-Declude: Failed BADHEADERS, SPAMHEADERS, WEIGHT8 [8]
Return-Path: 
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:29:49 -0400
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U
X-UIDL: 896287752

Message from yahoo.de.
Unable to deliver message to the following address(es).

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This user doesn't have a yahoo.de account ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This user doesn't have a yahoo.de account ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Date Header wrong - REALLY?

2002-09-18 Thread R. Scott Perry


why do I get  http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c020020c for
this:

The easiest way is to look at the headers that are sent to IMail:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SPAM: [See Headers]  Delivery failure

 From this, you can see that it is missing the Date: header.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Date Header wrong - REALLY?

2002-09-18 Thread Eje Gustafsson

My guess is that it didn't have any date header.
Imail automatically adds a Date header if it is missing.

/Eje

Wednesday, September 18, 2002, 5:02:44 PM, you wrote:

AS Scott-

AS why do I get  http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c020020c for
AS this:


AS Received: from mta541.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.23] by hm-software.com
AS   (SMTPD32-7.07) id A0461AEF00BE; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:29:42 -0400
AS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AS X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AS Subject: SPAM: [See Headers]  Delivery failure
AS Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AS X-Declude-Note: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client [c020020c].
AS See: http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c020020c
AS X-RBL-Warning: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam [c020020c]. See:
AS http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c020020c
AS X-Declude: Version 1.60; Df0461aef00be8b36.SMD from mta541.mail.yahoo.com
AS [216.136.131.23]
AS X-Declude: Failed BADHEADERS, SPAMHEADERS, WEIGHT8 [8]
AS Return-Path: 
AS Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:29:49 -0400
AS X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AS Status: U
AS X-UIDL: 896287752

AS Message from yahoo.de.
AS Unable to deliver message to the following address(es).

AS [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
AS This user doesn't have a yahoo.de account ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

AS [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
AS This user doesn't have a yahoo.de account ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Date Header wrong - REALLY?

2002-09-18 Thread Andy Schmidt

So are you inferring that either Imail or the client's Exchange Server
inserted that DATE header on the bottom?

Best Regards
Andy

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why do I get  http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=c020020c for
this:

The easiest way is to look at the headers that are sent to IMail:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SPAM: [See Headers]  Delivery failure

 From this, you can see that it is missing the Date: header.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Date Header wrong - REALLY?

2002-09-18 Thread R. Scott Perry


So are you inferring that either Imail or the client's Exchange Server
inserted that DATE header on the bottom?

Correct.

Any headers below the first header that Declude adds are added by IMail 
during the delivery process (this includes the Date: header that IMail adds).

Any headers just above the first header that Declude adds may have been 
added before the E-mail reached IMail, or may have been added by IMail 
(this includes the Message-ID: header that IMail adds).
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Date Header wrong - REALLY?

2002-09-18 Thread Andy Schmidt

Okay, I knew that Imail added Message ID headers - I did NOT know that it
also added DATE headers.  Is there a knowledge base entry listing the
headers that Imail injects?

Best Regards
Andy

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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Date Header wrong - REALLY?

2002-09-18 Thread Sanford Whiteman

 Is  there  a  knowledge  base  entry  listing the headers that Imail
 injects?

No.

But these are they, AFAIK:

Received:
Message-Id:
From: 
Date:
X-RCPT-TO:
Status:
X-UIDL:

Note  that  messages  must  have  basic  RFC822-style  header and body
sections  in  order  for  these headers to be injected in. Unformatted
messages will only get Received: and X-UIDL: injected, and will likely
be  unreadable  in  a  standard  MUA because the intended data will be
encapsulated by the added headers.

-Sandy

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