Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
David, Can you go over how you see them helping and what the positive benefit would be in tweaking those values? For example: by setting the WAITBETWEENTHREADS to 1 second it will help by . Darrell David Barker writes: 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
Are these the suggested defaults? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:41 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
WAITFORTHREADS 1500 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Are the suggested defaults David B www.declude.com PS. Darrell, I will answer your question shortly, just waiting on some feedback from developers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:59 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted Are these the suggested defaults? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:41 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
Different systems / configuration respond differently to these settings. In particular they to fine tune through-put with CPU utilization. 1. SLOW server that is heavily loaded You may want to try to increase WAITBETWEENTHREADS and lower THREADS. 2. FAST server Use the THREADS and WAITFORTHREADS to adjust the CPU utilization. When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but after that the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. If the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. David B www.declude.com When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but once it gets cooking the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. It the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted David, Can you go over how you see them helping and what the positive benefit would be in tweaking those values? For example: by setting the WAITBETWEENTHREADS to 1 second it will help by . Darrell David Barker writes: 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
David, too clarify, is that THREAD or THREADS? Originally it was THREAD. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:00 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted WAITFORTHREADS 1500 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Are the suggested defaults David B www.declude.com PS. Darrell, I will answer your question shortly, just waiting on some feedback from developers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:59 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted Are these the suggested defaults? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:41 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
John, It has always been THREADS From the Beta page: Performance 1. Create a file in your Declude folder called declude.cfg 2. Add the following directive THREADS 5 3. The default is 5 threads 4. This value can be adjusted to allow more threads to run David Barker www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted David, too clarify, is that THREAD or THREADS? Originally it was THREAD. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:00 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted WAITFORTHREADS 1500 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Are the suggested defaults David B www.declude.com PS. Darrell, I will answer your question shortly, just waiting on some feedback from developers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:59 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted Are these the suggested defaults? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:41 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
Thank you David - will let you know if I see any issues! -Nick David Barker wrote: 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
David, Am I to assume that the identifiers "SLOW server" and "FAST server" are completely relative to the amount of CPU utilization? For instance, I have a very fast server, but it does a ton of work and can experience high CPU utilization, especially in spikes. So is the trick here really just the CPU load? Another question along these lines...High CPU utilization can happen on any server because of the burstiness of the traffic, and it is these high CPU utilization periods that really matter to people like myself as I could pretty much care less about a 1 second delay on normal E-mail in comparison to processing a huge backlog of messages. It would seem wise to then just leave the settings set for a heavily loaded server. One alternative to manually specifying settings that are tied to notoriously bursty traffic would be to let the program manage this for us. I believe that Sniffer does this for instance and maybe Pete will chime in, or maybe he has already in private. It would seem that Declude could adjust things based on it's own spool of messages to process as these would be indicative of the traffic and the ability of a machine to handle that traffic. Matt David Barker wrote: Different systems / configuration respond differently to these settings. In particular they to fine tune through-put with CPU utilization. 1. SLOW server that is heavily loaded You may want to try to increase WAITBETWEENTHREADS and lower THREADS. 2. FAST server Use the THREADS and WAITFORTHREADS to adjust the CPU utilization. When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but after that the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. If the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. David B www.declude.com When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but once it gets cooking the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. It the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted David, Can you go over how you see them helping and what the positive benefit would be in tweaking those values? For example: by setting the WAITBETWEENTHREADS to 1 second it will help by . Darrell David Barker writes: 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
Am I to assume that the identifiers SLOW server and FAST server are completely relative to the amount of CPU utilization? For instance, I have a very fast server, but it does a ton of work and can experience high CPU utilization, especially in spikes. So is the trick here really just the CPU load? Correct CPU Load is the key but one should also take into account the CPU speed. e.g.. A SLOW server could be 800 Mhz with 256 MB ram. In which case you do not want to be using a high thread count and you want to give the CPU sufficient time between threads to do other things. It would seem wise to then just leave the settings set for a heavily loaded server. If that is your preference yes. We have not yet discovered the optimal numbers as it does have to do a lot with the environment, server traffic, load etc. So by adding these directives gives those who would like to tweak the system the ability to do so. David Barker www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:01 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted David, Am I to assume that the identifiers SLOW server and FAST server are completely relative to the amount of CPU utilization? For instance, I have a very fast server, but it does a ton of work and can experience high CPU utilization, especially in spikes. So is the trick here really just the CPU load? Another question along these lines...High CPU utilization can happen on any server because of the burstiness of the traffic, and it is these high CPU utilization periods that really matter to people like myself as I could pretty much care less about a 1 second delay on normal E-mail in comparison to processing a huge backlog of messages. It would seem wise to then just leave the settings set for a heavily loaded server. One alternative to manually specifying settings that are tied to notoriously bursty traffic would be to let the program manage this for us. I believe that Sniffer does this for instance and maybe Pete will chime in, or maybe he has already in private. It would seem that Declude could adjust things based on it's own spool of messages to process as these would be indicative of the traffic and the ability of a machine to handle that traffic. Matt David Barker wrote: Different systems / configuration respond differently to these settings. In particular they to fine tune through-put with CPU utilization. 1. SLOW server that is heavily loaded You may want to try to increase WAITBETWEENTHREADS and lower THREADS. 2. FAST server Use the THREADS and WAITFORTHREADS to adjust the CPU utilization. When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but after that the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. If the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. David B www.declude.com When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but once it gets cooking the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. It the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted David, Can you go over how you see them helping and what the positive benefit would be in tweaking those values? For example: by setting the WAITBETWEENTHREADS to 1 second it will help by . Darrell David Barker writes: 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe
