[Declude.JunkMail] Increase in porn?

2004-07-21 Thread Woody G. Fussell


Are any of you seeing an increase in explicit porn getting past Declude and
Sniffer in the past few days. 

We are seeing a disturbing increase that will only fail some minor weighted
test such as bad routing and often fail no test. They are almost dynamically
changing the spelling of the obvious words we are adding to subject and
content filtering. 


Any suggestions on how to get ahead of these guys and reduce such emails?

Woody Fussell
Wilbur Smith Associates
Columbia SC

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increase in porn?

2004-07-21 Thread Markus Gufler

 Are any of you seeing an increase in explicit porn getting 
 past Declude and Sniffer in the past few days. 

No.
Normaly 5 to 10 messages per month finish in my mailbox. I can't remember
one with pornographic content.


 Any suggestions on how to get ahead of these guys and reduce 
 such emails?

What tests are you running?
Maybe you've missed some usefull test.

Markus

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Increase in porn?

2004-07-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, 11:27:33 AM, Woody wrote:

WGF Are any of you seeing an increase in explicit porn getting past Declude and
WGF Sniffer in the past few days. 

WGF We are seeing a disturbing increase that will only fail some minor weighted
WGF test such as bad routing and often fail no test. They are almost dynamically
WGF changing the spelling of the obvious words we are adding to subject and
WGF content filtering. 

WGF Any suggestions on how to get ahead of these guys and reduce such emails?

We are closing the net on this new guy. He's shooting himself in the
foot by mad-libbing his text strings and obfuscating the spelling.
Let's just say, he has my undivided attention.

Would this be the mega huge shy next door dvd collection guy?

_M



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Increase in porn?

2004-07-21 Thread Glenn Brooks
yes a large amount...thought it might just be my config...
gb
At 11:27 AM 7/21/2004 -0400, you wrote:

Are any of you seeing an increase in explicit porn getting past Declude and
Sniffer in the past few days.
We are seeing a disturbing increase that will only fail some minor weighted
test such as bad routing and often fail no test. They are almost dynamically
changing the spelling of the obvious words we are adding to subject and
content filtering.
Any suggestions on how to get ahead of these guys and reduce such emails?
Woody Fussell
Wilbur Smith Associates
Columbia SC
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WebWize, Inc.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increase in porn?

2004-07-21 Thread Grant Griffith - Declude JM
Yep, usually has to do something with video type stuff.

Sincerely,
Grant Griffith
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A Division of ETC
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On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, 11:27:33 AM, Woody wrote:

WGF Are any of you seeing an increase in explicit porn getting past Declude
and
WGF Sniffer in the past few days.

WGF We are seeing a disturbing increase that will only fail some minor
weighted
WGF test such as bad routing and often fail no test. They are almost
dynamically
WGF changing the spelling of the obvious words we are adding to subject and
WGF content filtering.

WGF Any suggestions on how to get ahead of these guys and reduce such
emails?

We are closing the net on this new guy. He's shooting himself in the
foot by mad-libbing his text strings and obfuscating the spelling.
Let's just say, he has my undivided attention.

Would this be the mega huge shy next door dvd collection guy?

_M



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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Increase in porn?

2004-07-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, 11:39:43 AM, Grant wrote:

GGDJ We are also seeing these very heavy the past few weeks.  I forward them to
GGDJ the spam@ for sniffer on a regular basis, but they still seem to get thru on
GGDJ a regular basis.  No solutions here...

I've checked both of your accounts. You are both using the default
rule strength settings. Please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if you would like to explore using a stronger setting. That might help
a bit.

Thanks,
_M



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Increase in porn?

2004-07-21 Thread Rick Davidson
I have seen an increase in graphic porn that only fails minor tests as well

hard to stop that stuff with the crazy misspellings they use

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Increase in porn?


 yes a large amount...thought it might just be my config...


 gb

 At 11:27 AM 7/21/2004 -0400, you wrote:


 Are any of you seeing an increase in explicit porn getting past Declude
and
 Sniffer in the past few days.
 
 We are seeing a disturbing increase that will only fail some minor
weighted
 test such as bad routing and often fail no test. They are almost
dynamically
 changing the spelling of the obvious words we are adding to subject and
 content filtering.
 
 
 Any suggestions on how to get ahead of these guys and reduce such emails?
 
 Woody Fussell
 Wilbur Smith Associates
 Columbia SC
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Increase in porn?

2004-07-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, 12:27:00 PM, Grant wrote:

GGDJ Yep, usually has to do something with video type stuff.

The good news is that in the last two rounds of updates I've done I
saw no more of this guys trash - so I think we've put a hurtin' on
him. The bad news is that he is probably the most prolific porn
spammer we've seen in a long time and he's likely to come up with
something new pretty soon.

BUT - I am ready for that. We are running rapid update cycles and I've
just about prepared a set of generalized heuristics that will capture
what I estimate to be 80+ percent of his possible variations based on
the mix of text tokens and URL formats that I've seen so far.

The only reason this isn't in place yet is that I want to be sure
about the rules because job 1 is: NO FALSE POSITIVES and generalized
heuristics carry some risks and require some extra care.

_M

(I believe that this is one or more of the ROKSO spammers, but the
content is coming in through as-yet untagged IPs quite often.)


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Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Increase in porn?

2004-07-21 Thread Robert Whitaker
I filter on the picture name and url in the mail.
Then I route the img source address to a null route so the customer will not see the 
image. Just the holder in the message.

It helps on alot of these type of messages that have gotten thru.


Robert






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From: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date:  Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:35:25 -0400

On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, 11:39:43 AM, Grant wrote:

GGDJ We are also seeing these very heavy the past few weeks.  I forward them to
GGDJ the spam@ for sniffer on a regular basis, but they still seem to get thru on
GGDJ a regular basis.  No solutions here...

I've checked both of your accounts. You are both using the default
rule strength settings. Please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if you would like to explore using a stronger setting. That might help
a bit.

Thanks,
_M



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