[Declude.JunkMail] Layman's Explanation of E-Mail Spoofing
Hello, All, I'm having a hard time explaining to some of our customers why there is nothing that we can do to stop some unscrupulous spammer or anti-virus author from using their e-mail address and spoofing messages to look like they are sent from them. It seems that no matter how many times I explain it they just don't get it. Does anyone know of a good reputable source on the Internet which explains how e-mail addresses are spoofed which I can point them to? If it was in layman's terms all the better but I think just showing them an outside resource might be good enough as they seem to think we should be able to control it and are shirking our duties. Thanks, Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Layman's Explanation of E-Mail Spoofing
Hello Dan, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 10:57:13 AM, you wrote: Don't know of an outside source, but I always explain it like a normal envelope. You can write ANY address you want as the return address and drop it in a public mailbox. If it isn't delivered, it will be returned to the address that was written on the envelope. The post office doesn't care whose address it is. Try that. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Layman's Explanation of E-Mail Spoofing
Hi, Just ask them What is preventing you neighbour to drop a letter in the mailbox (as in a city mailbox on the corner of the streest where hundres of people drop mail in) with *your* address as the sender address? When the mailman opens the box it cannot be know who dropped what in the box and whether the information on the envelope is correct. Groetjes, Bonno Bloksma - Original Message - From: Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Layman's Explanation of E-Mail Spoofing Hello, All, I'm having a hard time explaining to some of our customers why there is nothing that we can do to stop some unscrupulous spammer or anti-virus author from using their e-mail address and spoofing messages to look like they are sent from them. It seems that no matter how many times I explain it they just don't get it. Does anyone know of a good reputable source on the Internet which explains how e-mail addresses are spoofed which I can point them to? If it was in layman's terms all the better but I think just showing them an outside resource might be good enough as they seem to think we should be able to control it and are shirking our duties. Thanks, Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [E-mail scanned at tio.nl for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [E-mail scanned at tio.nl for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Layman's Explanation of E-Mail Spoofing
http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/J/joe-job.html http://members.cox.net/joejob/ http://searchcio.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid19_gci917469,00.html http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Joe%20Job -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:57 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Layman's Explanation of E-Mail Spoofing Hello, All, I'm having a hard time explaining to some of our customers why there is nothing that we can do to stop some unscrupulous spammer or anti-virus author from using their e-mail address and spoofing messages to look like they are sent from them. It seems that no matter how many times I explain it they just don't get it. Does anyone know of a good reputable source on the Internet which explains how e-mail addresses are spoofed which I can point them to? If it was in layman's terms all the better but I think just showing them an outside resource might be good enough as they seem to think we should be able to control it and are shirking our duties. Thanks, Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Layman's Explanation of E-Mail Spoofing
Ditto - sometimes I add that if someone wanted to mail objectionable postcards, used your postal return address and chose random address from the phone book the result would be the same. Some people would throw them away (delete), some would complain to you and ask why you would send something like that, the bad addresses would get returned to you by the post office that is simply doing its job. I have sent out this explanation about 5-6 times, they all still ask me why they are getting the undeliverables : ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:04 AM To: Dan Geiser Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Layman's Explanation of E-Mail Spoofing Hello Dan, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 10:57:13 AM, you wrote: Don't know of an outside source, but I always explain it like a normal envelope. You can write ANY address you want as the return address and drop it in a public mailbox. If it isn't delivered, it will be returned to the address that was written on the envelope. The post office doesn't care whose address it is. Try that. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
