RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Marc Catuogno
I'm not familiar with this test?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

Add the following tests and it get's even better :)

SUBSPACE-10subjectspaces10x10
SUBSPACE-20subjectspaces20x20
SUBSPACE-30subjectspaces30x30

Matt


Dan Patnode wrote:

I did a scan of all uncaught spam from the last week, found all the
one's with Q, removed the QU's and ended up with this list.  All of
these would have been seen by Matt's new config:


Subject: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid 9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu 
Subject: FW: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Fw: :( would u mind if i ..
jqvmoiqfkzkokdwns u
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: Re: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Re: new mail REgnfqnKQT
Subject: Stop messages SPAM po p  vyoaejswayqo
Subject: [Fwd:
=?GB2312?B?0OnE4r/VvOS089PFu92jrDE5OdSqv8nS1L2o0ru49s341b6jrA==?==?GB231
2?B?uM+/7LW9d3d3LjA3NTVzei5jb23J6sfrsMld?=


Dan




On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 17:45, Matthew Bramble
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

How about 4 different super tests?  I fail automatically on
=?ISO-8859-1?B?, and that accounts for more than 1% of the
E-mail coming in to my server, but only a handful of additional
catches in what was being missed...no false positives.  I think
I've mentioned enough times, the other tests that I would like
to have...a BODYTEXT filter that searches just a decoded
non-HTML body, a NOTEXT test for nothing but spaces and returns
and attachments (that's a key) after decoding and
de-HTMLifying, and a TEXTCOUNT marquee test that would allow
you to search for amounts of non-HTML decoded body text just
just like SUBECTSPACES and BCC, but in reverse (the less there
is, the higher the score).  I could catch so much crap with
those 40 or so two character gibberish strings, in fact I think
it was properly tagging around 10% to 20% of all unique
incoming messages today if not more.  That gibberish subject
filter is tagging over 5% by itself, and with perfect accuracy
so far.  A functional gibberish body filter though would have a
reasonable number of false positives (was tagging buy.com links
that were shown in displayable text for instance).  I don't of
course though expect Scott to rush to my aid here.

I have managed to add though tests for SUBECTSPACES (very
effective), COMMENTS (effective) and BCC (just ok), along with
some small key word/phrase filters for the body, subject and
sender with very good success.  I only saw about 5 definitive
false positives today out of around 3000 unique messages, but
approximately 150 pieces of spam got through.  I think that
could be reduced by as much as half without a measurable impact
on the false positives.  If that doesn't work, I'm buying a gun
:)

BTW, on Linux, my guru buddy recommends Postfix as the SMTP
client and Webmin as the interface.  I don't though dispute
Sandy's faith in MS SMTP, and it can be run on the same box as
IMail.

Matt




Dan Patnode wrote:

FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France
came through (or rather didn't) with this subject:

Subject:
=?ISO-8859-1?B?RW5qb3kgc3VtbWVyIHVudGlsIGl0cyB2ZXJ5IGVuZCE=?=

There's definitely is a correlation here among spammers, ?B?
encoded subjects, disposable domain names, and nothing else in
the body of the message.  There has to be a way to bring the 2
or 3 variables togther as a super test.


Dan


On Monday, September 8, 2003 19:05, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 

Use a text filter and add something like:

SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

to it.

I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter
didn't catch it.  The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the
decoded text.

I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter, it will
catch this (customize to suit, this will only catch Latin-1
that is base64 encoded, and I can't think of why that would be
necessary, I would think that only other charactersets could
need this):

HEADERS10CONTAINSISO-8859-1?B?

Neither the HEADERS filter nor the SUBJECT filter is catching
the decoded form of the text.  The BASE64 test is also not
catching this if it's only in the Subject of the message (I
assume it only does

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Matthew Bramble




It's one of Declude's undocumented tests. I found a bunch of them in
the release notes on his site (link at the bottom of the manual page)
and then I searched the archives to find comments about them. I also
found a few from just simply reading people's config files on this
board.

This test, a.k.a. SUBJECTSPACES, just simply counts the number of
spaces in a subject line. Spammers often will do something like show a
subject, then a bunch of spaces, and then some gibberish. It will also
score on some very long subjects which are not common in real E-mail.
The scoring is additive as higher levels are hit, and you can customize
those levels.

Matt


Marc Catuogno wrote:

  I'm not familiar with this test?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

Add the following tests and it get's even better :)

SUBSPACE-10subjectspaces10x10
SUBSPACE-20subjectspaces20x20
SUBSPACE-30subjectspaces30x30

Matt


Dan Patnode wrote:

  
  
I did a scan of all uncaught spam from the last week, found all the

  
  one's with Q, removed the QU's and ended up with this list.  All of
these would have been seen by Matt's new config:
  
  

Subject: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid 9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu 
Subject: FW: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Fw: :( would u mind if i ..

  
  jqvmoiqfkzkokdwns u
  
  
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: Re: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Re: new mail REgnfqnKQT
Subject: Stop messages SPAM po p  vyoaejswayqo
Subject: [Fwd:

  
  =?GB2312?B?0OnE4r/VvOS089PFu92jrDE5OdSqv8nS1L2o0ru49s341b6jrA==?==?GB231
2?B?uM+/7LW9d3d3LjA3NTVzei5jb23J6sfrsMld?=
  
  

Dan




On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 17:45, Matthew Bramble

  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 



  How about 4 different super tests?  I fail automatically on
=?ISO-8859-1?B?, and that accounts for more than 1% of the
E-mail coming in to my server, but only a handful of additional
catches in what was being missed...no false positives.  I think
I've mentioned enough times, the other tests that I would like
to have...a BODYTEXT filter that searches just a decoded
non-HTML body, a NOTEXT test for nothing but spaces and returns
and attachments (that's a key) after decoding and
de-HTMLifying, and a TEXTCOUNT marquee test that would allow
you to search for amounts of non-HTML decoded body text just
just like SUBECTSPACES and BCC, but in reverse (the less there
is, the higher the score).  I could catch so much crap with
those 40 or so two character gibberish strings, in fact I think
it was properly tagging around 10% to 20% of all unique
incoming messages today if not more.  That gibberish subject
filter is tagging over 5% by itself, and with perfect accuracy
so far.  A functional gibberish body filter though would have a
reasonable number of false positives (was tagging buy.com links
that were shown in displayable text for instance).  I don't of
course though expect Scott to rush to my aid here.

I have managed to add though tests for SUBECTSPACES (very
effective), COMMENTS (effective) and BCC (just ok), along with
some small key word/phrase filters for the body, subject and
sender with very good success.  I only saw about 5 definitive
false positives today out of around 3000 unique messages, but
approximately 150 pieces of spam got through.  I think that
could be reduced by as much as half without a measurable impact
on the false positives.  If that doesn't work, I'm buying a gun
:)

BTW, on Linux, my guru buddy recommends Postfix as the SMTP
client and Webmin as the interface.  I don't though dispute
Sandy's faith in MS SMTP, and it can be run on the same box as
IMail.

Matt




Dan Patnode wrote:

FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France
came through (or rather didn't) with this subject:

Subject:
=?ISO-8859-1?B?RW5qb3kgc3VtbWVyIHVudGlsIGl0cyB2ZXJ5IGVuZCE=?=

There's definitely is a correlation here among spammers, ?B?
encoded subjects, disposable domain names, and nothing else in
the body of the message.  There has to be a way to bring the 2
or 3 variables togther as a super test.


Dan


On Monday, September 8, 2003

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
 SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

I'm seeing quite a few of these coming in, but they are getting held.

I'm including a sample from my log, which is set to HIGH so that others can
see what tests have been useful for me.

An interesting point that came out of my following this thread is that I
found that when the ISO string appears anywhere in the subject EXCEPT for
the beginning, it's a SURE indicator that the message is spam. A really long
(and imperfect) way to test for that is to add:

SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS a=?ISO-8859-1?b?
SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS b=?ISO-8859-1?b?
SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS c=?ISO-8859-1?b?
 999 CONTAINS 3=?ISO-8859-1?b?

Anyone have a more concise way to test for that?

Andrew 8)

09/11/2003 00:13:04 Q2074182b01428a33 Triggered CONTAINS filter on kr [weight-10; KR 
].
09/11/2003 00:13:04 Q2074182b01428a33 Triggered CONTAINS filter on free bottle 
[weight-2; free bottle with your purchase].
09/11/2003 00:13:04 Q2074182b01428a33 Triggered CONTAINS filter on 3+ inches 
[weight-2; 3+ Inches!br100% Satísfactio].
09/11/2003 00:13:04 Q2074182b01428a33 Triggered CONTAINS filter on Lengthen And 
Enlarge [weight-4; Lengthen and Enlarge your Pení].
09/11/2003 00:13:04 Q2074182b01428a33 Triggered CONTAINS filter on VP-RX [weight-1; 
VP-RX Pillsbr/b/font
09/11/2003 00:13:04 Q2074182b01428a33 Triggered CONTAINS filter on No embarrassing 
doctor or pharmacy visits [weight-3; No embarrassing doctor or phar].
09/11/2003 00:13:04 Q2074182b01428a33 Triggered CONTAINS filter on Remove me 
[weight-5;  /Remove me/abr-=hqoGD].
09/11/2003 00:13:04 Q2074182b01428a33 Triggered CONTAINS filter on .biz/ [weight-1; 
.biz/mka/m2c.php?man=st4vpPr].
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 DSBL:6 BASE64:10 SPAMCOP:10 REVDNS:4 IPNOTINMX:2 
NOLEGITCONTENT:2 COUNTRY:10 SNIFFER:7 FIVETENSRC:5 EASYNET-DNSBL:7 EASYNET-PROXIES:5 
SORBS-HTTP:7 SORBS-SOCKS:7 PSBL:5 CBL:5 BENTALLIPBL:7 BENTALLSPAMHINT:33 
BENTALLSPAMURL:6 .  Total weight = 138
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Using [outgoing] CFG file global.cfg.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed DSBL 
(http://dsbl.org/listing?ip=211.109.109.68). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed BASE64 (A binary encoded text or HTML 
section was found in this E-mail.). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed SPAMCOP (Blocked - see 
http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?211.109.109.68). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was sent from a 
MUA/MTA 211.109.109.68 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed WEIGHT20 (Weight of 163 reaches or 
exceeds the limit of 20.). Action=HOLD.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed IPNOTINMX (). Action=LOG.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed NOLEGITCONTENT (No content unique to 
legitimate E-mail detected.). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed COUNTRY (Message failed COUNTRY test 
(41)). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed SNIFFER (Message failed SNIFFER: 
63.). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed FIVETENSRC 
(68.109.109.211.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed EASYNET-DNSBL (Blacklisted by 
easynet.nl DNSBL - http://blackholes.easynet.nl/errors.html). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed EASYNET-PROXIES (Open Proxy - 
http://proxies.blackholes.easynet.nl/errors.html). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed SORBS-HTTP (Open Server [socks/35762] 
See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=211.109.109.68). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed SORBS-SOCKS (Open Server [http/35763] 
See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=211.109.109.68). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed PSBL (Your mailserver spammed me, see 
http://psbl.surriel.com/cgi-bin/listing.cgi?ip=211.109.109.68). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed CBL (Blocked - see 
http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=211.109.109.68). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed BENTALLIPBL ( matched 
211.104.0.0/13). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed BENTALLSPAMHINT (Message failed 
BENTALLSPAMHINT test (901)). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Msg failed BENTALLSPAMURL (Message failed 
BENTALLSPAMURL test (412)). Action=WARN.
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Subject: First Ti=?ISO-8859-1?B?bWU=?=
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
IP: 211.109.109.68 ID: h8B78ZwD003879
09/11/2003 00:13:05 Q2074182b01428a33 Last action = HOLD.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Dan Patnode
Looking at my spamples I don't see any prefix letter:


Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?QnVzeSBhdCB3b3Jr?=?

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?RGlzY3JlZXQgT24gTGluZSBQaGFybWFjeSwgVmlhZ3Jh?=

Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?b?RndkOiBUaA==?=e 24th o=?ISO-8859-1?b?ZiB0aGk=?=s month

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?SG93IGRvZXMgU2lsZGVuYWZpbCBDaXRyYXRlICB3b3JrPw==?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?U2F2ZSBtb25leSE=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?U2FtcGxlIFZpYWdyYQ==?=

Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6Rm9yIHRoZSBtZW4uIFZpYWdyYS4=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UmU6VmlhZ3JhOk5vIENvbnN1bHRhdGlvbiBGZWU=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UmU6WW91ciBGcmVlIFNhbXBsZSBPZiBWaWFncmE=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmVtZW1iZQ==?=r that girl=?iso-8859-1?b?Pw==?=


Who are these guys putting the code in the middle?  Course, I'm only looking at 
uncaught spam, perhaps these guys are getting nailed by other tests.

Dan



On Thursday, September 11, 2003 13:16, Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

I'm seeing quite a few of these coming in, but they are getting
held.

I'm including a sample from my log, which is set to HIGH so that others can
see what tests have been useful for me.

An interesting point that came out of my following this thread is that I
found that when the ISO string appears anywhere in the subject EXCEPT for
the beginning, it's a SURE indicator that the message is spam. A really long
(and imperfect) way to test for that is to add:

SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS a=?ISO-8859-1?b?
SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS b=?ISO-8859-1?b?
SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS c=?ISO-8859-1?b?
 999 CONTAINS 3=?ISO-8859-1?b?

Anyone have a more concise way to test for that?

Andrew 8)



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Here you go.

Out of the 85 messages received in less than 3 days with this ISO encoded
subject, 11 had the encoding in the middle of the line (see attachment).

I think they were all caught due to the weights of other tests.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: Dan Patnode [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject


Looking at my spamples I don't see any prefix letter:


Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?QnVzeSBhdCB3b3Jr?=?

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?RGlzY3JlZXQgT24gTGluZSBQaGFybWFjeSwgVmlhZ3Jh?=

Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?b?RndkOiBUaA==?=e 24th o=?ISO-8859-1?b?ZiB0aGk=?=s
month

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?SG93IGRvZXMgU2lsZGVuYWZpbCBDaXRyYXRlICB3b3JrPw==?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?U2F2ZSBtb25leSE=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?U2FtcGxlIFZpYWdyYQ==?=

Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6Rm9yIHRoZSBtZW4uIFZpYWdyYS4=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UmU6VmlhZ3JhOk5vIENvbnN1bHRhdGlvbiBGZWU=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UmU6WW91ciBGcmVlIFNhbXBsZSBPZiBWaWFncmE=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmVtZW1iZQ==?=r that girl=?iso-8859-1?b?Pw==?=


Who are these guys putting the code in the middle?  Course, I'm only looking
at uncaught spam, perhaps these guys are getting nailed by other tests.

Dan



On Thursday, September 11, 2003 13:16, Colbeck, Andrew
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

I'm seeing quite a few of these coming in, but they are getting
held.

I'm including a sample from my log, which is set to HIGH so that others can
see what tests have been useful for me.

An interesting point that came out of my following this thread is that I
found that when the ISO string appears anywhere in the subject EXCEPT for
the beginning, it's a SURE indicator that the message is spam. A really
long
(and imperfect) way to test for that is to add:

SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS a=?ISO-8859-1?b?
SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS b=?ISO-8859-1?b?
SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS c=?ISO-8859-1?b?
 999 CONTAINS 3=?ISO-8859-1?b?

Anyone have a more concise way to test for that?

Andrew 8)



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09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Triggered CONTAINS filter on CA [weight-0; CA 
BR ].
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Triggered CONTAINS filter on br [weight-10; BR 
].
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Triggered CONTAINS filter on @snip [weight--9; 
@snip; Mon, 8 Sep].
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Triggered CONTAINS filter on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[weight-30; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon,].
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Triggered CONTAINS filter on 100% guaranteed 
[weight-3; 100% Guaranteed to Work!/em
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Triggered CONTAINS filter on Weight Loss Patch 
[weight-3; Weight Loss Patch 
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Triggered CONTAINS filter on Norton [weight-1; 
Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Triggered CONTAINS filter on /bek/ [weight-30; 
/bek/Remove me/a
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Triggered CONTAINS filter on .biz/ [weight-1; 
.biz/mdp/m2c.php?man=andClic].
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Triggered CONTAINS filter on getit4less.biz 
[weight-30; getit4less.biz/mdp/m2c.php?man].
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Triggered CONTAINS filter on No More 
[weight-5; no morebrstarvation diets/].
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 DSBL:4 DSBLALL:3 MONKEYPROXIES:7 SPAMCOP:10 
IPNOTINMX:2 COUNTRY:10 SNIFFER:7 NJABLDUL:5 EASYNET-DNSBL:7 EASYNET-DYNA:6 
EASYNET-PROXIES:5 BR-BR:7 SORBS-HTTP:7 SORBS-SOCKS:7 PSBL:5 CBL:5 SPAMBAG:3 
BENTALLSPAMHINT:28 BENTALLSPAMURL:61 BENTALLSPAMUNSUB:5 .  Total weight = 194
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Using [outgoing] CFG file global.cfg.
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Msg failed DSBL 
(http://dsbl.org/listing?ip=200.168.125.76). Action=WARN.
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Msg failed DSBLALL 
(http://dsbl.org/listing?ip=200.168.125.76). Action=WARN.
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Msg failed MONKEYPROXIES (BLOCKED: See 
http://www.monkeys.com/upl/listed-ip-0.cgi?ip=200.168.125.76). Action=WARN.
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Msg failed SPAMCOP (Blocked - see 
http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?200.168.125.76). Action=WARN.
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Msg failed WEIGHT20 (Weight of 194 reaches or 
exceeds the limit of 20.). Action=HOLD.
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Msg failed IPNOTINMX (). Action=LOG.
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Msg failed COUNTRY (Message failed COUNTRY test 
(34)). Action=WARN.
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Msg failed SNIFFER (Message failed SNIFFER: 
63.). Action=WARN.
09/08/2003 00:04:54 Q2a100762009c03a5 Msg failed NJABLDUL (This E-mail came from 
200.168.125.76

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Matthew Bramble




I've been capturing this stuff and I have found the code in the middle
of native language text, but only occasionally. Some examples:

 Subject: You never IM =?ISO-8859-1?B?bWUgYW55?=more
 Subject: This
is=?ISO-8859-1?b?IHRoZSA1dGgg?=email=?ISO-8859-1?b?IEkgc2Vu?=t you
 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?b?SG93IGRvIA==?=you use =?ISO-8859-1?b?aXQ/?=

I haven't seen a false positive yet. Has someone seen ISO 8859-1
(Latin-1) being used for any other purpose? This is the standard
English and Western European character set. Is it possible that say a
foreign E-mail client build would tag Latin-1? If not, is there a
reason to be concerned about false positives???

Matt



Dan Patnode wrote:

  Looking at my "spamples" I don't see any prefix letter:


Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?QnVzeSBhdCB3b3Jr?=?

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?RGlzY3JlZXQgT24gTGluZSBQaGFybWFjeSwgVmlhZ3Jh?=

Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?b?RndkOiBUaA==?=e 24th o=?ISO-8859-1?b?ZiB0aGk=?=s month

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?SG93IGRvZXMgU2lsZGVuYWZpbCBDaXRyYXRlICB3b3JrPw==?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?U2F2ZSBtb25leSE=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?U2FtcGxlIFZpYWdyYQ==?=

Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6Rm9yIHRoZSBtZW4uIFZpYWdyYS4=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UmU6VmlhZ3JhOk5vIENvbnN1bHRhdGlvbiBGZWU=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UmU6WW91ciBGcmVlIFNhbXBsZSBPZiBWaWFncmE=?=

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmVtZW1iZQ==?=r that girl=?iso-8859-1?b?Pw==?=


Who are these guys putting the code in the middle?  Course, I'm only looking at uncaught spam, perhaps these guys are getting nailed by other tests.

Dan



On Thursday, September 11, 2003 13:16, Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  

  SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?
  

I'm seeing quite a few of these coming in, but they are getting
held.

I'm including a sample from my log, which is set to HIGH so that others can
see what tests have been useful for me.

An interesting point that came out of my following this thread is that I
found that when the ISO string appears anywhere in the subject EXCEPT for
the beginning, it's a SURE indicator that the message is spam. A really long
(and imperfect) way to test for that is to add:

SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS a=?ISO-8859-1?b?
SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS b=?ISO-8859-1?b?
SUBJECT 999 CONTAINS c=?ISO-8859-1?b?
999 CONTAINS 3=?ISO-8859-1?b?

Anyone have a more concise way to test for that?

Andrew 8)



  
  






Re: SPAM: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Dan Patnode
Not bad.  Makes me wonder if the future test grouping feature would be even stronger 
with exclusive as well as inclusive grouping.  Must have (1) and (2) but not (3).  

That would rock! :)

Dan



On Thursday, September 11, 2003 15:05, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dan,

There's a decent way around that.  You can set the test in the Config 
file for a solid weight, not score each filter test incrementally, and 
then provide a list of negative tests that would offset the test.  So if 
there is some sort of ISO tagging of this Japanese stuff, you can find 
that code and defeat the test from running.  Same goes for
other languages.

I just got my first false positive out of 200 catches.  This was from 
Korea but written in English (still encoded though).  There are two 
clues in the headers as to how to defeat the test:

Subject: [22] =?euc-kr?B?R2VuZXJhbCBJbnF1aXJ5IGZvciBzbm93bW9iaWxl?=
Content-Type: text/html; charset=euc-kr

You could probably do something like the following (suggested 
replacement for the original filter if you are using it):



GIBBERISHSUBfilter
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\GibberishSub.txtx50

# The following defeats the test if it finds the subject is not sent as 
ASCII

SUBJECT-5CONTAINS?b?

# Small list of letter combinations not found in a basic
dictionary.

SUBJECT0CONTAINSqb
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqc
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqd
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqe
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqf
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqg
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqh
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqi
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqj
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqk
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqm
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqn
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqo
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqp
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqr
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqs
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqt
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqv
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqx
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqy
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqz

SUBJECT0CONTAINSvq
SUBJECT0CONTAINSwq
SUBJECT0CONTAINStq
SUBJECT0CONTAINSjq

SUBJECT0CONTAINSxd
SUBJECT0CONTAINSxj
SUBJECT0CONTAINSxk
SUBJECT0CONTAINSxr
SUBJECT0CONTAINSxz

SUBJECT0CONTAINSzb
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzc
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzf
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzj
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzk
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzl
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzm
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzx



Matt







Dan Patnode wrote:

Follow-up,

Used in a high weight soft test, 3 of Q subject tests FPd this
morning.  It seems that Japanese encoded messages like lots of mixed up letters.

More testing...

Dan



On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 19:20, Dan Patnode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I did a scan of all uncaught spam from the last week, found all
the one's with Q, removed the QU's and ended up with this list.
All of these would have been seen by Matt's new config:


Subject: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid 9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu 
Subject: FW: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Fw: :( would u mind if i ..jqvmoiqfkzkokdwns u
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: Re: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Re: new mail REgnfqnKQT
Subject: Stop messages SPAM po p  vyoaejswayqo
Subject: [Fwd:
=?GB2312?B?0OnE4r/VvOS089PFu92jrDE5OdSqv8nS1L2o0ru49s341b6jrA==?==?GB2312?B?uM+/7LW9d3d3LjA3NTVzei5jb23J6sfrsMld?=


Dan




On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 17:45, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


How about 4 different super tests?  I fail automatically on
=?ISO-8859-1?B?, and that accounts for more than 1% of the
E-mail coming in to my server, but only a handful of additional
catches in what was being missed...no false positives.  I think
I've mentioned enough times, the other tests that I would like
to have...a BODYTEXT filter that searches just a decoded
non-HTML body, a NOTEXT test for nothing but spaces and returns
and attachments (that's a key) after decoding and
de-HTMLifying, and a TEXTCOUNT marquee test that would allow
you to search for amounts of non-HTML decoded body text just
just like SUBECTSPACES and BCC, but in reverse 

Re: SPAM: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Matthew Bramble
Either test grouping, or some way to limit the score of a filter that 
increments, or someway to negate the whole filter with a test inside of 
the filter.  Something like:

SUBJECTEXEMPTCONTAINS?b?

That would keep your negation techniques from having an effect outside 
of the test.  In the fix I wrote below, there will be an unintentional 
effect of subtracting 5 points from any E-mail with an encoded subject, 
and that would be an issue if you get spam with encoded subjects besides 
Latin-1 encoding since you are blocking that.

I'm thinking that negation test functionality would work nicely within 
the framework of Declude's filters, providing a way to escape the test.  
This could also potentially save processing on large filters if you 
listed them at the top of the file.  Suggestion database candidate???

Matt



Dan Patnode wrote:

Not bad.  Makes me wonder if the future test grouping feature would be even stronger with exclusive as well as inclusive grouping.  Must have (1) and (2) but not (3).  

That would rock! :)

Dan



On Thursday, September 11, 2003 15:05, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Dan,

There's a decent way around that.  You can set the test in the Config 
file for a solid weight, not score each filter test incrementally, and 
then provide a list of negative tests that would offset the test.  So if 
there is some sort of ISO tagging of this Japanese stuff, you can find 
that code and defeat the test from running.  Same goes for
other languages.

I just got my first false positive out of 200 catches.  This was from 
Korea but written in English (still encoded though).  There are two 
clues in the headers as to how to defeat the test:

Subject: [22] =?euc-kr?B?R2VuZXJhbCBJbnF1aXJ5IGZvciBzbm93bW9iaWxl?=
Content-Type: text/html; charset=euc-kr
You could probably do something like the following (suggested 
replacement for the original filter if you are using it):



GIBBERISHSUBfilter
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\GibberishSub.txtx50

# The following defeats the test if it finds the subject is not sent as 
ASCII

SUBJECT-5CONTAINS?b?

# Small list of letter combinations not found in a basic
dictionary.
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqb
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqc
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqd
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqe
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqf
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqg
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqh
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqi
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqj
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqk
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqm
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqn
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqo
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqp
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqr
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqs
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqt
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqv
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqx
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqy
SUBJECT0CONTAINSqz
SUBJECT0CONTAINSvq
SUBJECT0CONTAINSwq
SUBJECT0CONTAINStq
SUBJECT0CONTAINSjq
SUBJECT0CONTAINSxd
SUBJECT0CONTAINSxj
SUBJECT0CONTAINSxk
SUBJECT0CONTAINSxr
SUBJECT0CONTAINSxz
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzb
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzc
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzf
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzj
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzk
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzl
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzm
SUBJECT0CONTAINSzx


Matt







Dan Patnode wrote:

   

Follow-up,

Used in a high weight soft test, 3 of Q subject tests FPd this
 

morning.  It seems that Japanese encoded messages like lots of mixed up letters.
   

More testing...

Dan



On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 19:20, Dan Patnode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

I did a scan of all uncaught spam from the last week, found all
the one's with Q, removed the QU's and ended up with this list.
All of these would have been seen by Matt's new config:
Subject: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid 9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu 
Subject: FW: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Fw: :( would u mind if i ..jqvmoiqfkzkokdwns u
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: Re: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Re: new mail REgnfqnKQT
Subject: Stop messages SPAM po p  

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France came through (or rather 
didn't) with this subject:

Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?RW5qb3kgc3VtbWVyIHVudGlsIGl0cyB2ZXJ5IGVuZCE=?=

There's definitely is a correlation here among spammers, ?B? encoded subjects, 
disposable domain names, and nothing else in the body of the message.  There has to be 
a way to bring the 2 or 3 variables togther as a super test.


Dan


On Monday, September 8, 2003 19:05, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use a text filter and add something like:

 SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

 to it.

 I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter
didn't catch it.  The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the
decoded text.

 I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter, it will
catch this (customize to suit, this will only catch Latin-1
that is base64 encoded, and I can't think of why that would be
necessary, I would think that only other charactersets could
need this):

    HEADERS        10    CONTAINS    ISO-8859-1?B?

 Neither the HEADERS filter nor the SUBJECT filter is catching
the decoded form of the text.  The BASE64 test is also not
catching this if it's only in the Subject of the message (I
assume it only does the body/attachments).

 The not so funny thing is that I'm getting this now as a part
of those E-mails containing no displayable text.  This guy is
real good at getting through my settings unless he chooses a
bad IP to send from.  I think a few days ago, another person on
this list commented about this same spammer, bringing up the
domains that he is using (common words followed by numbers). 
The only pattern this guys leaves apart from having no text in
the body, is having different country's TLDs listed in the
Received line, the sender, and the reverse DNS.  Here's a copy
of what I just received using this technique (with links
modified):


From - Mon Sep 08 17:36:44 2003
X-UIDL: 314612976
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
X-Mozilla-Status2: 
Received: from gjr.paknet.com.pk [81.128.130.33] by igaia.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.13) id A6244F101D8; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 17:35:32 -0400
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 21:35:35 +
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
=?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6T3JkZXIgU2lsZGVuYWZpbCBDaXRyYXRlICBmcm9tIGhvbWUgLSBubyBkb2N0b3IgcmVxdWlyZWQu?=
MIME-Version: 1.0
From: Shirley Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [81.128.130.33]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Df62404f101d89e2c.SMD
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by iGaia Incorporated's E-mail
service (www.igaia.com) for spam.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from
host81-128-130-33.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.128.130.33]).
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: DSN, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT [1]
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U
X-UIDL: 314612976

htmlbody
center!--lfoln42j66--a
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src=http://discountrate2-dot-com/pics/gv1.gif; height=270 width=405/a/center
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
Scott,

It pains me to suggest making your todo list longer but how about adding test 
grouping?  It would be to much to make multiple weight scales, but how about something 
simpler.  Say you wanted to make 3 groups of 3 each.  Label one of the option columns 
in such a way that they can be grouped:

Group1  G1  x   x   0   0
Group2  G2  x   x   0   0
Group3  G3  x   x   0   0

BADHEADERS  badheaders  G1  x   0   0
BASE64  base64  G1  x   0   0
HELOBOGUS   helovalid   G1  x   0   0

MAILFROMenvfrom G2  x   0   0
IPNOTINMX   ipnotinmG2  x   0   0
PERCENT percent G2  x   0   0

REVDNS  revdnsexistsG3  x   0   0
ROUTING spamrouting G3  x   0   0
SPAMHEADERS spamheaders G3  x   0   0


Sub tests could be duplicated to run solo and in a group or not to run only in a 
group.  Groups could be hit only in action files ($default) or have weights (being 
tests of their own).  We could then build profiles, adding all the different 
behaviors paricular spams share, regardless of which tests define those behaviors. 

I would love, for example, to combine an IPFILE listing US broadband IPs with 
NONENGLISH.

Dan


On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 16:57, Dan Patnode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France
came through (or rather didn't) with this subject:

Subject:
=?ISO-8859-1?B?RW5qb3kgc3VtbWVyIHVudGlsIGl0cyB2ZXJ5IGVuZCE=?=

There's definitely is a correlation here among spammers, ?B?
encoded subjects, disposable domain names, and nothing else in
the body of the message.  There has to be a way to bring the 2
or 3 variables togther as a super test.


Dan


On Monday, September 8, 2003 19:05, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use a text filter and add something like:

 SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

 to it.

 I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter
didn't catch it.  The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the
decoded text.

 I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter, it will
catch this (customize to suit, this will only catch Latin-1
that is base64 encoded, and I can't think of why that would be
necessary, I would think that only other charactersets could
need this):

    HEADERS        10    CONTAINS    ISO-8859-1?B?

 Neither the HEADERS filter nor the SUBJECT filter is catching
the decoded form of the text.  The BASE64 test is also not
catching this if it's only in the Subject of the message (I
assume it only does the body/attachments).

 The not so funny thing is that I'm getting this now as a part
of those E-mails containing no displayable text.  This guy is
real good at getting through my settings unless he chooses a
bad IP to send from.  I think a few days ago, another person on
this list commented about this same spammer, bringing up the
domains that he is using (common words followed by numbers). 
The only pattern this guys leaves apart from having no text in
the body, is having different country's TLDs listed in the
Received line, the sender, and the reverse DNS.  Here's a copy
of what I just received using this technique (with links
modified):


From - Mon Sep 08 17:36:44 2003
X-UIDL: 314612976
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
X-Mozilla-Status2: 
Received: from gjr.paknet.com.pk [81.128.130.33] by igaia.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.13) id A6244F101D8; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 17:35:32 -0400
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 21:35:35 +
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
=?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6T3JkZXIgU2lsZGVuYWZpbCBDaXRyYXRlICBmcm9tIGhvbWUgLSBubyBkb2N0b3IgcmVxdWlyZWQu?=
MIME-Version: 1.0
From: Shirley Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [81.128.130.33]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Df62404f101d89e2c.SMD
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by iGaia Incorporated's E-mail
service (www.igaia.com) for spam.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from
host81-128-130-33.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.128.130.33]).
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: DSN, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT [1]
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U
X-UIDL: 314612976

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Bramble




How about 4 different super tests? I fail automatically on
=?ISO-8859-1?B?, and that accounts for more than 1% of the E-mail
coming in to my server, but only a handful of additional catches in
what was being missed...no false positives. I think I've mentioned
enough times, the other tests that I would like to have...a BODYTEXT
filter that searches just a decoded non-HTML body, a NOTEXT test for
nothing but spaces and returns and attachments (that's a key) after
decoding and de-HTMLifying, and a TEXTCOUNT marquee test that would
allow you to search for amounts of non-HTML decoded body text just just
like SUBECTSPACES and BCC, but in reverse (the less there is, the
higher the score). I could catch so much crap with those 40 or so two
character gibberish strings, in fact I think it was properly tagging
around 10% to 20% of all unique incoming messages today if not more.
That gibberish subject filter is tagging over 5% by itself, and with
perfect accuracy so far. A functional gibberish body filter though
would have a reasonable number of false positives (was tagging buy.com
links that were shown in displayable text for instance). I don't of
course though expect Scott to rush to my aid here.

I have managed to add though tests for SUBECTSPACES (very effective),
COMMENTS (effective) and BCC (just ok), along with some small key
word/phrase filters for the body, subject and sender with very good
success. I only saw about 5 definitive false positives today out of
around 3000 unique messages, but approximately 150 pieces of spam got
through. I think that could be reduced by as much as half without a
measurable impact on the false positives. If that doesn't work, I'm
buying a gun :)

BTW, on Linux, my guru buddy recommends Postfix as the SMTP client and
Webmin as the interface. I don't though dispute Sandy's faith in MS
SMTP, and it can be run on the same box as IMail.

Matt




Dan Patnode wrote:

  FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France came through (or rather didn't) with this subject:

Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?RW5qb3kgc3VtbWVyIHVudGlsIGl0cyB2ZXJ5IGVuZCE=?=

There's definitely is a correlation here among spammers, ?B? encoded subjects, disposable domain names, and nothing else in the body of the message.  There has to be a way to bring the 2 or 3 variables togther as a super test.


Dan


On Monday, September 8, 2003 19:05, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
Use a text filter and add something like:

SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

to it.

I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter
didn't catch it. The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the
decoded text.

I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter, it will
catch this (customize to suit, this will only catch Latin-1
that is base64 encoded, and I can't think of why that would be
necessary, I would think that only other charactersets could
need this):

 HEADERS  10  CONTAINS ISO-8859-1?B?

Neither the HEADERS filter nor the SUBJECT filter is catching
the decoded form of the text. The BASE64 test is also not
catching this if it's only in the Subject of the message (I
assume it only does the body/attachments).

The not so funny thing is that I'm getting this now as a part
of those E-mails containing no displayable text. This guy is
real good at getting through my settings unless he chooses a
bad IP to send from. I think a few days ago, another person on
this list commented about this same spammer, bringing up the
domains that he is using (common words followed by numbers).
The only pattern this guys leaves apart from having no text in
the body, is having different country's TLDs listed in the
Received line, the sender, and the reverse DNS. Here's a copy
of what I just received using this technique (with links
modified):



  
  From - Mon Sep 08 17:36:44 2003
  
  
X-UIDL: 314612976
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
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Re: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Doug McKee
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

How about 4 different super tests?  I fail automatically on 
=?ISO-8859-1?B?, and that accounts for more than 1% of the 
What is your test setup for the above string, please?
Thanks,
Doug




How about 4 different super tests? I fail automatically on
=?ISO-8859-1?B?, and that accounts for more than 1% of the E-mail
coming in to my server, but only a handful of additional catches in
what was being missed...no false positives. I think I've mentioned
enough times, the other tests that I would like to have...a BODYTEXT
filter that searches just a decoded non-HTML body, a NOTEXT test for
nothing but spaces and returns and attachments (that's a key) after
decoding and de-HTMLifying, and a TEXTCOUNT marquee test that would
allow you to search for amounts of non-HTML decoded body text just just
like SUBECTSPACES and BCC, but in reverse (the less there is, the
higher the score). I could catch so much crap with those 40 or so two
character gibberish strings, in fact I think it was properly tagging
around 10% to 20% of all unique incoming messages today if not more.
That gibberish subject filter is tagging over 5% by itself, and with
perfect accuracy so far. A functional gibberish body filter though
would have a reasonable number of false positives (was tagging buy.com
links that were shown in displayable text for instance). I don't of
course though expect Scott to rush to my aid here.

I have managed to add though tests for SUBECTSPACES (very effective),
COMMENTS (effective) and BCC (just ok), along with some small key
word/phrase filters for the body, subject and sender with very good
success. I only saw about 5 definitive false positives today out of
around 3000 unique messages, but approximately 150 pieces of spam got
through. I think that could be reduced by as much as half without a
measurable impact on the false positives. If that doesn't work, I'm
buying a gun :)

BTW, on Linux, my guru buddy recommends Postfix as the SMTP client and
Webmin as the interface. I don't though dispute Sandy's faith in MS
SMTP, and it can be run on the same box as IMail.

Matt




Dan Patnode wrote:

  FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France came through (or rather didn't) with this subject:

Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?RW5qb3kgc3VtbWVyIHVudGlsIGl0cyB2ZXJ5IGVuZCE=?=

There's definitely is a correlation here among spammers, ?B? encoded subjects, disposable domain names, and nothing else in the body of the message.  There has to be a way to bring the 2 or 3 variables togther as a super test.


Dan


On Monday, September 8, 2003 19:05, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
Use a text filter and add something like:

SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

to it.

I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter
didn't catch it. The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the
decoded text.

I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter, it will
catch this (customize to suit, this will only catch Latin-1
that is base64 encoded, and I can't think of why that would be
necessary, I would think that only other charactersets could
need this):

 HEADERS  10  CONTAINS ISO-8859-1?B?

Neither the HEADERS filter nor the SUBJECT filter is catching
the decoded form of the text. The BASE64 test is also not
catching this if it's only in the Subject of the message (I
assume it only does the body/attachments).

The not so funny thing is that I'm getting this now as a part
of those E-mails containing no displayable text. This guy is
real good at getting through my settings unless he chooses a
bad IP to send from. I think a few days ago, another person on
this list commented about this same spammer, bringing up the
domains that he is using (common words followed by numbers).
The only pattern this guys leaves apart from having no text in
the body, is having different country's TLDs listed in the
Received line, the sender, and the reverse DNS. Here's a copy
of what I just received using this technique (with links
modified):



  
  From - Mon Sep 08 17:36:44 2003
  
  
X-UIDL: 314612976
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
X-Mozilla-Status2: 
Received: from gjr.paknet.com.pk [81.128.130.33] by igaia.com with ESMTP
 (SMTPD32-7.13) id A6244F101D8; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 17:35:32 -0400
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 21:35:35 +
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
=?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6T3JkZXIgU2lsZGVuYWZpbCBDaXRyYXRlICBmcm9tIGhvbWUgLSBubyBkb2N0b3IgcmVxdWlyZWQu?=
MIME-Version: 1.0
From: "Shirley Dalton" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [81.128.130.33]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Df62404f101d89e2c.SMD
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X-Note: This E-mail was sent from
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X-Spam-Tests-Failed: DSN, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT [1]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread R. Scott Perry

It pains me to suggest making your todo list longer but how about adding 
test grouping?
Don't feel bad -- it was already in the todo list.  :)

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Bramble




Doug McKee wrote:

  What is your test setup for the above string, please?
  


SUBJECT  15 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

>From what I can tell, there's no valid reason to encode Latin-1 in the
subject since that character set is supported by default in E-mail, so
it's quite safe to fail on just that.

Matt




Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
I did a scan of all uncaught spam from the last week, found all the one's with Q, 
removed the QU's and ended up with this list.  All of these would have been seen by 
Matt's new config:


Subject: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid 9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu 
Subject: FW: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Fw: :( would u mind if i ..jqvmoiqfkzkokdwns u
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: Re: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Re: new mail REgnfqnKQT
Subject: Stop messages SPAM po p  vyoaejswayqo
Subject: [Fwd: 
=?GB2312?B?0OnE4r/VvOS089PFu92jrDE5OdSqv8nS1L2o0ru49s341b6jrA==?==?GB2312?B?uM+/7LW9d3d3LjA3NTVzei5jb23J6sfrsMld?=


Dan




On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 17:45, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How about 4 different super tests?  I fail automatically on
=?ISO-8859-1?B?, and that accounts for more than 1% of the
E-mail coming in to my server, but only a handful of additional
catches in what was being missed...no false positives.  I think
I've mentioned enough times, the other tests that I would like
to have...a BODYTEXT filter that searches just a decoded
non-HTML body, a NOTEXT test for nothing but spaces and returns
and attachments (that's a key) after decoding and
de-HTMLifying, and a TEXTCOUNT marquee test that would allow
you to search for amounts of non-HTML decoded body text just
just like SUBECTSPACES and BCC, but in reverse (the less there
is, the higher the score).  I could catch so much crap with
those 40 or so two character gibberish strings, in fact I think
it was properly tagging around 10% to 20% of all unique
incoming messages today if not more.  That gibberish subject
filter is tagging over 5% by itself, and with perfect accuracy
so far.  A functional gibberish body filter though would have a
reasonable number of false positives (was tagging buy.com links
that were shown in displayable text for instance).  I don't of
course though expect Scott to rush to my aid here.

 I have managed to add though tests for SUBECTSPACES (very
effective), COMMENTS (effective) and BCC (just ok), along with
some small key word/phrase filters for the body, subject and
sender with very good success.  I only saw about 5 definitive
false positives today out of around 3000 unique messages, but
approximately 150 pieces of spam got through.  I think that
could be reduced by as much as half without a measurable impact
on the false positives.  If that doesn't work, I'm buying a gun
:)

 BTW, on Linux, my guru buddy recommends Postfix as the SMTP
client and Webmin as the interface.  I don't though dispute
Sandy's faith in MS SMTP, and it can be run on the same box as
IMail.

 Matt




 Dan Patnode wrote:

FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France
came through (or rather didn't) with this subject:

Subject:
=?ISO-8859-1?B?RW5qb3kgc3VtbWVyIHVudGlsIGl0cyB2ZXJ5IGVuZCE=?=

There's definitely is a correlation here among spammers, ?B?
encoded subjects, disposable domain names, and nothing else in
the body of the message.  There has to be a way to bring the 2
or 3 variables togther as a super test.


Dan


On Monday, September 8, 2003 19:05, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Use a text filter and add something like:

SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

to it.

I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter
didn't catch it.  The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the
decoded text.

I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter, it will
catch this (customize to suit, this will only catch Latin-1
that is base64 encoded, and I can't think of why that would be
necessary, I would think that only other charactersets could
need this):

    HEADERS        10    CONTAINS    ISO-8859-1?B?

Neither the HEADERS filter nor the SUBJECT filter is catching
the decoded form of the text.  The BASE64 test is also not
catching this if it's only in the Subject of the message (I
assume it only does the body/attachments).

The not so funny thing is that I'm getting this now as a part
of those E-mails containing no displayable text.  This guy is
real good at getting through my settings unless he chooses a
bad IP to send from.  I think a few days ago, another person on
this list commented about this same spammer, bringing up the
domains that he is using (common words followed by numbers). 
The only pattern this guys leaves apart from having no text in
the body, 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Bramble
Add the following tests and it get's even better :)

SUBSPACE-10subjectspaces10x10
SUBSPACE-20subjectspaces20x20
SUBSPACE-30subjectspaces30x30
Matt

Dan Patnode wrote:

I did a scan of all uncaught spam from the last week, found all the one's with Q, removed the QU's and ended up with this list.  All of these would have been seen by Matt's new config:

Subject: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid 9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G
Subject: FW: drive luxury cars and get paid  L0z[7J4aYq!F7P1
Subject: FW: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu 
Subject: FW: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Fw: :( would u mind if i ..jqvmoiqfkzkokdwns u
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: get that extra boost in the bed uvqtc qqyixu
Subject: Re: new mailREgnfqnKQT
Subject: Re: new mail REgnfqnKQT
Subject: Stop messages SPAM po p  vyoaejswayqo
Subject: [Fwd: =?GB2312?B?0OnE4r/VvOS089PFu92jrDE5OdSqv8nS1L2o0ru49s341b6jrA==?==?GB2312?B?uM+/7LW9d3d3LjA3NTVzei5jb23J6sfrsMld?=

Dan



On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 17:45, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

How about 4 different super tests?  I fail automatically on
=?ISO-8859-1?B?, and that accounts for more than 1% of the
E-mail coming in to my server, but only a handful of additional
catches in what was being missed...no false positives.  I think
I've mentioned enough times, the other tests that I would like
to have...a BODYTEXT filter that searches just a decoded
non-HTML body, a NOTEXT test for nothing but spaces and returns
and attachments (that's a key) after decoding and
de-HTMLifying, and a TEXTCOUNT marquee test that would allow
you to search for amounts of non-HTML decoded body text just
just like SUBECTSPACES and BCC, but in reverse (the less there
is, the higher the score).  I could catch so much crap with
those 40 or so two character gibberish strings, in fact I think
it was properly tagging around 10% to 20% of all unique
incoming messages today if not more.  That gibberish subject
filter is tagging over 5% by itself, and with perfect accuracy
so far.  A functional gibberish body filter though would have a
reasonable number of false positives (was tagging buy.com links
that were shown in displayable text for instance).  I don't of
course though expect Scott to rush to my aid here.
I have managed to add though tests for SUBECTSPACES (very
effective), COMMENTS (effective) and BCC (just ok), along with
some small key word/phrase filters for the body, subject and
sender with very good success.  I only saw about 5 definitive
false positives today out of around 3000 unique messages, but
approximately 150 pieces of spam got through.  I think that
could be reduced by as much as half without a measurable impact
on the false positives.  If that doesn't work, I'm buying a gun
:)
BTW, on Linux, my guru buddy recommends Postfix as the SMTP
client and Webmin as the interface.  I don't though dispute
Sandy's faith in MS SMTP, and it can be run on the same box as
IMail.
Matt



Dan Patnode wrote:

FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France
came through (or rather didn't) with this subject:
Subject:
=?ISO-8859-1?B?RW5qb3kgc3VtbWVyIHVudGlsIGl0cyB2ZXJ5IGVuZCE=?=
There's definitely is a correlation here among spammers, ?B?
encoded subjects, disposable domain names, and nothing else in
the body of the message.  There has to be a way to bring the 2
or 3 variables togther as a super test.
Dan

On Monday, September 8, 2003 19:05, Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Use a text filter and add something like:

SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

to it.

I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter
didn't catch it.  The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the
decoded text.
I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter, it will
catch this (customize to suit, this will only catch Latin-1
that is base64 encoded, and I can't think of why that would be
necessary, I would think that only other charactersets could
need this):
   HEADERS10CONTAINSISO-8859-1?B?

Neither the HEADERS filter nor the SUBJECT filter is catching
the decoded form of the text.  The BASE64 test is also not
catching this if it's only in the Subject of the message (I
assume it only does the body/attachments).
The not so funny thing is that I'm getting this now as a part
of those E-mails containing no displayable text.  This guy is
real good at getting through my settings unless he chooses a
bad IP to send from.  I think a few days 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-09 Thread Mike Leonard
Matthew Bramble wrote:


Use a text filter and add something like:

SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

to it.


I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter didn't 
catch it.  The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the decoded text.


I sent one to myself before I posted, just to make sure it worked. I 
tried again just now and got the same result. 

I have that example line as the first one in the text filter file.  Here 
are the contents of the .SMD file and the entries from the JM log:

Received: from bookeseminars.com [10.172.17.47] by bookeseminars.com with ESMTP
 (SMTPD32-8.02) id A542E80120; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:27:30 -0400
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:27:32 -0400
From: Mike Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?b?UmU6Q2hlYXBlc3QgVmlhZ3JhIEd1YXJhbnRlZWQ=?=
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-RBL-Warning: MYTXTFILTER: Message failed MYTXTFILTER test (1)
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10.172.17.47]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: MYTXTFILTER, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT20, WEIGHT35, WEIGHT40 [45]
X-Booke-Queue-Header: Dd54200e80120abea.SMD
X-Note: Total spam weight of this E-mail is 45.


09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea MYTXTFILTER:45 .  Total weight = 45
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed MYTXTFILTER (Message failed MYTXTFILTER test (1)). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT20 (Weight of 45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT35 (Weight of 45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 35.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT40 (Weight of 45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 40.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea R1 Message OK
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed MYTXTFILTER (Message failed MYTXTFILTER test (1)). Action=WARN.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT20 (Weight of 45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT35 (Weight of 45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 35.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT40 (Weight of 45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 40.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?b?UmU6Q2hlYXBlc3QgVmlhZ3JhIEd1YXJhbnRlZWQ=?=
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 10.172.17.47 ID: 

Do you have something like this:

	MYTXTFILTER	filter		D:\Imail\Declude\txtfilters.txt	x	5	0

in your global.cfg file and something like:

	MYTXTFILTER		WARN

in your $default$.junkmail file?

Mike



I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter, it will catch this 
(customize to suit, this will only catch Latin-1 that is base64 
encoded, and I can't think of why that would be necessary, I would 
think that only other charactersets could need this):

HEADERS10CONTAINSISO-8859-1?B?

Neither the HEADERS filter nor the SUBJECT filter is catching the 
decoded form of the text.  The BASE64 test is also not catching this 
if it's only in the Subject of the message (I assume it only does the 
body/attachments).

The not so funny thing is that I'm getting this now as a part of those 
E-mails containing no displayable text.  This guy is real good at 
getting through my settings unless he chooses a bad IP to send from.  
I think a few days ago, another person on this list commented about 
this same spammer, bringing up the domains that he is using (common 
words followed by numbers).  The only pattern this guys leaves apart 
from having no text in the body, is having different country's TLDs 
listed in the Received line, the sender, and the reverse DNS.  Here's 
a copy of what I just received using this technique (with links modified):

From - Mon Sep 08 17:36:44 2003
X-UIDL: 314612976
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
X-Mozilla-Status2: 
Received: from gjr.paknet.com.pk [81.128.130.33] by igaia.com with ESMTP
 (SMTPD32-7.13) id A6244F101D8; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 17:35:32 -0400
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 21:35:35 +
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 
=?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6T3JkZXIgU2lsZGVuYWZpbCBDaXRyYXRlICBmcm9tIGhvbWUgLSBubyBkb2N0b3IgcmVxdWlyZWQu?=
MIME-Version: 1.0
From: Shirley Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-09 Thread Matthew Bramble

Add www.spamchk.com 
Base64 encoded subject lines will be decoded before the keyword-check.

Markus
 

It's on my list of things to do.  That would be the best of both worlds 
since this stuff always seems keyword rich.

Right now I'm writing custom filters, and loving the results...

Thanks,

Matt

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-09 Thread Matthew Bramble
Mike,

I'm using v1.75i4 right now, is it possible that you are using a version 
older than 1.75?

I tested my setup about 10 times before I gave up on the SUBJECT filter 
and moved to using HEADERS?

BTW, regardless of how you do it or how it works, this is a great 
filter.  It's not that common, but guaranteed to be spam (IMO) and 
1/10th of the hits are things that would have otherwise gotten through 
on my machine.

Matt



Mike Leonard wrote:

Matthew Bramble wrote:


Use a text filter and add something like:

SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

to it.


I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter didn't 
catch it.  The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the decoded text.


I sent one to myself before I posted, just to make sure it worked. I 
tried again just now and got the same result.
I have that example line as the first one in the text filter file.  
Here are the contents of the .SMD file and the entries from the JM log:

Received: from bookeseminars.com [10.172.17.47] by bookeseminars.com 
with ESMTP
 (SMTPD32-8.02) id A542E80120; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:27:30 -0400
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:27:32 -0400
From: Mike Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea MYTXTFILTER:45 .  Total weight = 45
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed MYTXTFILTER (Message 
failed MYTXTFILTER test (1)). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT20 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT35 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 35.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT40 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 40.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea R1 Message OK
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed MYTXTFILTER (Message 
failed MYTXTFILTER test (1)). Action=WARN.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT20 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT35 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 35.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT40 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 40.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Subject: 
=?ISO-8859-1?b?UmU6Q2hlYXBlc3QgVmlhZ3JhIEd1YXJhbnRlZWQ=?=
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 10.172.17.47 ID:

Do you have something like this:

MYTXTFILTERfilterD:\Imail\Declude\txtfilters.txt
x50

in your global.cfg file and something like:

MYTXTFILTERWARN

in your $default$.junkmail file?

Mike



I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter, it will catch this 
(customize to suit, this will only catch Latin-1 that is base64 
encoded, and I can't think of why that would be necessary, I would 
think that only other charactersets could need this):

HEADERS10CONTAINSISO-8859-1?B?

Neither the HEADERS filter nor the SUBJECT filter is catching the 
decoded form of the text.  The BASE64 test is also not catching this 
if it's only in the Subject of the message (I assume it only does the 
body/attachments).

The not so funny thing is that I'm getting this now as a part of 
those E-mails containing no displayable text.  This guy is real good 
at getting through my settings unless he chooses a bad IP to send 
from.  I think a few days ago, another person on this list commented 
about this same spammer, bringing up the domains that he is using 
(common words followed by numbers).  The only pattern this guys 
leaves apart from having no text in the body, is having different 
country's TLDs listed in the Received line, the sender, and the 
reverse DNS.  Here's a copy of what I just received using this 
technique (with links modified):

From - Mon Sep 08 17:36:44 2003
X-UIDL: 314612976
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
X-Mozilla-Status2: 
Received: from 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-09 Thread Mike Leonard
Matthew Bramble wrote:

Mike,

I'm using v1.75i4 right now, is it possible that you are using a 
version older than 1.75?
We're using 1.75.  I don't know what the sub-version is. I downloaded it 
on 7/22.
Maybe Scott could offer an explanation or hint as to why ours works and 
yours doesn't.

I tested my setup about 10 times before I gave up on the SUBJECT 
filter and moved to using HEADERS?

BTW, regardless of how you do it or how it works, this is a great 
filter.  It's not that common, but guaranteed to be spam (IMO) and 
1/10th of the hits are things that would have otherwise gotten through 
on my machine.


We got about 10 of these for V-pill over the weekend, that's why I set 
it up.  I haven't seen any legitimate email get caught by this filter, 
but we don't normally get email from any non-English speaking countries 
(unless it's spam).

Mike

Matt



Mike Leonard wrote:

Matthew Bramble wrote:


Use a text filter and add something like:

SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?

to it.




I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter didn't 
catch it.  The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the decoded text.




I sent one to myself before I posted, just to make sure it worked. I 
tried again just now and got the same result.
I have that example line as the first one in the text filter file.  
Here are the contents of the .SMD file and the entries from the JM log:

Received: from bookeseminars.com [10.172.17.47] by bookeseminars.com 
with ESMTP
 (SMTPD32-8.02) id A542E80120; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:27:30 -0400
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:27:32 -0400
From: Mike Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) 
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X-Spam-Tests-Failed: MYTXTFILTER, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT20, WEIGHT35, 
WEIGHT40 [45]
X-Booke-Queue-Header: Dd54200e80120abea.SMD
X-Note: Total spam weight of this E-mail is 45.



09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea MYTXTFILTER:45 .  Total weight 
= 45
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed MYTXTFILTER (Message 
failed MYTXTFILTER test (1)). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT20 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT35 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 35.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT40 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 40.). Action=IGNORE.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea R1 Message OK
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed MYTXTFILTER (Message 
failed MYTXTFILTER test (1)). Action=WARN.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT20 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 20.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT35 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 35.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Msg failed WEIGHT40 (Weight of 
45 reaches or exceeds the limit of 40.). Action=HOLD.
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea Subject: 
=?ISO-8859-1?b?UmU6Q2hlYXBlc3QgVmlhZ3JhIEd1YXJhbnRlZWQ=?=
09/09/2003 09:27:31 Qd54200e80120abea From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 
10.172.17.47 ID:

Do you have something like this:

MYTXTFILTERfilterD:\Imail\Declude\txtfilters.txt
x50

in your global.cfg file and something like:

MYTXTFILTERWARN

in your $default$.junkmail file?

Mike



I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter, it will catch 
this (customize to suit, this will only catch Latin-1 that is base64 
encoded, and I can't think of why that would be necessary, I would 
think that only other charactersets could need this):

HEADERS10CONTAINSISO-8859-1?B?

Neither the HEADERS filter nor the SUBJECT filter is catching the 
decoded form of the text.  The BASE64 test is also not catching this 
if it's only in the Subject of the message (I assume it only does 
the body/attachments).

The not so funny thing is that I'm getting this now as a part of 
those E-mails containing no displayable text.  This guy is real good 
at getting through my settings unless he chooses a bad IP to send 
from.  I think a few days ago, another person on this list commented 
about this same spammer, bringing up the 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-09 Thread R. Scott Perry

I'm using v1.75i4 right now, is it possible that you are using a version 
older than 1.75?
We're using 1.75.  I don't know what the sub-version is. I downloaded it 
on 7/22.
Maybe Scott could offer an explanation or hint as to why ours works and 
yours doesn't.
My guess is some extra spaces/tabs at the end of the line (such as SUBJECT 
40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?instead of SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS 
=?ISO-8859-1?b?).

   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Frederick Samarelli
How does a subject that shows this.

=?ISO-8859-1?b?UmU6Q2hlYXBlc3QgVmlhZ3JhIEd1YXJhbnRlZWQ=?=

Display this.

Re:Cheapest Viagra Guaranteed

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

How does a subject that shows this.

=?ISO-8859-1?b?UmU6Q2hlYXBlc3QgVmlhZ3JhIEd1YXJhbnRlZWQ=?=

Display this.

Re:Cheapest Viagra Guaranteed
That's because the subject is encoded.  To help support non-English 
languages, there was an RFC that allowed subjects and message bodies to be 
encoded.  In this case, it uses the standard English character set, but 
uses encoding.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Markus Gufler

 How does a subject that shows this.
 
 =?ISO-8859-1?b?UmU6Q2hlYXBlc3QgVmlhZ3JhIEd1YXJhbnRlZWQ=?=


The ?b? indicates that this subject line is Base64 encoded.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Frederick Samarelli
Any suggestion on how to block these.

Thanks.


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  How does a subject that shows this.
 
  =?ISO-8859-1?b?UmU6Q2hlYXBlc3QgVmlhZ3JhIEd1YXJhbnRlZWQ=?=


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
 SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b? 

Assuming you don't ever get emails from European countries, Canada or other
locations that use accented characters.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Charles Frolick
I believe the Outlook XP and 2003 mail config test uses the subject
encoding as well on the test message. Had acustomer with bad pop
settings leave several test on webmail and they looked like that.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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 SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b? 

Assuming you don't ever get emails from European countries, Canada or
other
locations that use accented characters.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Matthew Bramble





Use
a text filter and add something like:
  
  
SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?
  
  
to it.
  


I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter didn't
catch it. The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the decoded text.

I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter, it will catch this
(customize to suit, this will only catch Latin-1 that is base64
encoded, and I can't think of why that would be necessary, I would
think that only other charactersets could need this):

 HEADERS  10  CONTAINS ISO-8859-1?B?

Neither the HEADERS filter nor the SUBJECT filter is catching the
decoded form of the text. The BASE64 test is also not catching this if
it's only in the Subject of the message (I assume it only does the
body/attachments).

The not so funny thing is that I'm getting this now as a part of those
E-mails containing no displayable text. This guy is real good at
getting through my settings unless he chooses a bad IP to send from. I
think a few days ago, another person on this list commented about this
same spammer, bringing up the domains that he is using (common words
followed by numbers). The only pattern this guys leaves apart from
having no text in the body, is having different country's TLDs listed
in the Received line, the sender, and the reverse DNS. Here's a copy
of what I just received using this technique (with links modified):


  From - Mon Sep 08 17:36:44 2003
X-UIDL: 314612976
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
X-Mozilla-Status2: 
Received: from gjr.paknet.com.pk [81.128.130.33] by igaia.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.13) id A6244F101D8; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 17:35:32 -0400
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 21:35:35 +
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6T3JkZXIgU2lsZGVuYWZpbCBDaXRyYXRlICBmcm9tIGhvbWUgLSBubyBkb2N0b3IgcmVxdWlyZWQu?=
MIME-Version: 1.0
From: "Shirley Dalton" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [81.128.130.33]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Df62404f101d89e2c.SMD
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by iGaia Incorporated's E-mail service (www.igaia.com) for spam.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from host81-128-130-33.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.128.130.33]).
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: DSN, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT [1]
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U
X-UIDL: 314612976

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