RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Looking at the address book/list/file is entirely different than WHITELIST
AUTH.

Using the address file is AUTOWHITELIST either ON or OFF.

John T
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jaworski
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:06 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> 
> My reading was Declude uses the SmartMail Address book as it is used in
> iMail but does not yet look at the white list feature in SmarterMail.
> 
> Michael Jaworski
> Puget Sound Network, Inc.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:00 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> 
> 
> See previous post
> 
> SmarterMail does support SMTP Auth but it does not at this time spaa that
> info off to declude.
> 
> 
> Kevin Bilbee
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darin Cox
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:34 PM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > Being in Florida, we use gators.  We tried the usual pigeons
> > initially, but they got eaten by the gators.  Some of the messages
> > actually still made it to the intended destination as the gators
> > sought out the recipients' pools,
> > but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the
pigeons
> > at all.  Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes,
> > but we have
> > gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't.
Usually
> > the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though.
> >
> > On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth
> > info on to Declude.  Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this
> > to verify that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail.
> >
> > Darin.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in  a huff.  If you
> > had looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was
> > talking about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP.  My
> > fingers just can't keep up with my thoughts.  We use IMail 7.15, which
> > does not support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I
> > regret missing from 8.x.  We
> > plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if
> > they had a
> > similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the
topic
> > here, remember?) with Declude JM.  Feel better?
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either.  We take each mesasge that is
> > to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the
> > backs of squirrels, and send those out the door.  We tried sending the
> > scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> > I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yes.
>

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Matt




The only thing that I know is from the following post:

   
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg23838.html

Matt



Darin Cox wrote:

  Ok, I see Matt chimed in to let us know that CPHZ and SmarterTools are still
working on getting WHITELIST AUTH to work.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


Being in Florida, we use gators.  We tried the usual pigeons initially, but
they got eaten by the gators.  Some of the messages actually still made it
to the intended destination as the gators sought out the recipients' pools,
but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the pigeons
at all.  Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes, but we have
gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't.  Usually
the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though.

On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth info
on to Declude.  Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this to verify
that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in  a huff.  If you had
looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about
SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP.  My fingers just can't
keep up with my thoughts.  We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP
Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x.  We
plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a
similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic
here, remember?) with Declude JM.  Feel better?

Ben

P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either.  We take each mesasge that is to go
out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of
squirrels, and send those out the door.  We tried sending the scraps of
paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.

- Original Message -
From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


  
  
Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?

Ben

- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain




  Yes.

If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all
  

  
  clients
  
  
and


  configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
  

  
  comes
  
  

  in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for
  

  
  those
IPs.
  
  

  Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses
  

  
  and
  
  

  domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

Thanks,

Kevin

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Michael Jaworski
My reading was Declude uses the SmartMail Address book as it is used in
iMail but does not yet look at the white list feature in SmarterMail.

Michael Jaworski
Puget Sound Network, Inc.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


See previous post

SmarterMail does support SMTP Auth but it does not at this time spaa that
info off to declude.


Kevin Bilbee

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:34 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> Being in Florida, we use gators.  We tried the usual pigeons 
> initially, but they got eaten by the gators.  Some of the messages 
> actually still made it to the intended destination as the gators 
> sought out the recipients' pools,
> but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the pigeons
> at all.  Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes,
> but we have
> gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't.  Usually
> the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though.
>
> On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth 
> info on to Declude.  Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this 
> to verify that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in  a huff.  If you 
> had looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was 
> talking about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP.  My 
> fingers just can't keep up with my thoughts.  We use IMail 7.15, which 
> does not support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I 
> regret missing from 8.x.  We
> plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if
> they had a
> similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic
> here, remember?) with Declude JM.  Feel better?
>
> Ben
>
> P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either.  We take each mesasge that is 
> to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the 
> backs of squirrels, and send those out the door.  We tried sending the 
> scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
> I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all
> clients
> > and
> > > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all 
> > > mail
> comes
> > > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for
> those
> IPs.
> > >
> > > Darin.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> > >
> > >
> > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email 
> > > addresses
> and
> > > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > ---
> > 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Kevin Bilbee



According to SmarterMail it will be availabel in 3.0 which will be 
availabel arrount August.
 
 
Kevin 
Bilbee

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:27 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  Whitelisting our DomainSomeone reported recently that 
  WHITELIST AUTH won't yet work with SmarterMail because it isn't sharing that 
  information in a format that Declude can use, but apparently they are 
  considering adding it to their next major version.That's definitely a 
  deal breaker for me until it comes.  I suspect that there might be other 
  minutia that I rely upon that could cause issues, and I'm hoping to learn more 
  from others as people start to migrate.MattImail Admin 
  wrote: 
  Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in  a huff.  If you had
looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about
SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP.  My fingers just can't
keep up with my thoughts.  We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP
Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x.  We
plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a
similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic
here, remember?) with Declude JM.  Feel better?

Ben

P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either.  We take each mesasge that is to go
out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of
squirrels, and send those out the door.  We tried sending the scraps of
paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.

- Original Message -
From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


  
Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?

Ben

- Original Message - 
From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain



  Yes.

If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all
  clients
  
and

  configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
  comes
  

  in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for
  those
IPs.
  

  Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses
  and
  

  domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

Thanks,

Kevin

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Kevin Bilbee
See previous post

SmarterMail does support SMTP Auth but it does not at this time spaa that
info off to declude.


Kevin Bilbee

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:34 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> Being in Florida, we use gators.  We tried the usual pigeons
> initially, but
> they got eaten by the gators.  Some of the messages actually still made it
> to the intended destination as the gators sought out the
> recipients' pools,
> but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the pigeons
> at all.  Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes,
> but we have
> gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't.  Usually
> the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though.
>
> On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth info
> on to Declude.  Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this to verify
> that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in  a huff.  If you had
> looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was
> talking about
> SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP.  My fingers just can't
> keep up with my thoughts.  We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP
> Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing
> from 8.x.  We
> plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if
> they had a
> similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic
> here, remember?) with Declude JM.  Feel better?
>
> Ben
>
> P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either.  We take each mesasge
> that is to go
> out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of
> squirrels, and send those out the door.  We tried sending the scraps of
> paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
> I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all
> clients
> > and
> > > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
> comes
> > > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for
> those
> IPs.
> > >
> > > Darin.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> > >
> > >
> > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses
> and
> > > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > ---
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Darin Cox
Ok, I see Matt chimed in to let us know that CPHZ and SmarterTools are still
working on getting WHITELIST AUTH to work.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


Being in Florida, we use gators.  We tried the usual pigeons initially, but
they got eaten by the gators.  Some of the messages actually still made it
to the intended destination as the gators sought out the recipients' pools,
but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the pigeons
at all.  Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes, but we have
gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't.  Usually
the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though.

On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth info
on to Declude.  Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this to verify
that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in  a huff.  If you had
looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about
SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP.  My fingers just can't
keep up with my thoughts.  We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP
Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x.  We
plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a
similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic
here, remember?) with Declude JM.  Feel better?

Ben

P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either.  We take each mesasge that is to go
out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of
squirrels, and send those out the door.  We tried sending the scraps of
paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.

- Original Message -
From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


> Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?
>
> Ben
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> > Yes.
> >
> > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all
clients
> and
> > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
comes
> > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for
those
IPs.
> >
> > Darin.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses
and
> > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Darin Cox
Being in Florida, we use gators.  We tried the usual pigeons initially, but
they got eaten by the gators.  Some of the messages actually still made it
to the intended destination as the gators sought out the recipients' pools,
but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the pigeons
at all.  Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes, but we have
gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't.  Usually
the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though.

On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth info
on to Declude.  Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this to verify
that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in  a huff.  If you had
looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about
SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP.  My fingers just can't
keep up with my thoughts.  We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP
Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x.  We
plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a
similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic
here, remember?) with Declude JM.  Feel better?

Ben

P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either.  We take each mesasge that is to go
out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of
squirrels, and send those out the door.  We tried sending the scraps of
paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.

- Original Message -
From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


> Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?
>
> Ben
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> > Yes.
> >
> > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all
clients
> and
> > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
comes
> > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for
those
IPs.
> >
> > Darin.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses
and
> > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Dan Horne
Actually it isn't that Imail 7 doesn't support SMTP Auth, it does.  It's
that it doesn't report whether a user has Authed in the message
envelope, which was added in 8.  Declude looks at the envelope for the
WHITELIST AUTH feature. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imail Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in  a huff.  If you had
looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking
about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP.  My fingers
just can't keep up with my thoughts.  We use IMail 7.15, which does not
support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret
missing from 8.x.  We plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I
was curious if they had a similar feature so that we can whitelist our
domains (which was the topic here, remember?) with Declude JM.  Feel
better?

Ben

P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either.  We take each mesasge that is
to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the
backs of squirrels, and send those out the door.  We tried sending the
scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable.

- Original Message -
From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.

- Original Message -
From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


> Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?
>
> Ben
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> > Yes.
> >
> > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all
clients
> and
> > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
comes
> > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for
those
IPs.
> >
> > Darin.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses
and
> > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > ---
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Matt




Someone reported recently that WHITELIST AUTH won't yet work with
SmarterMail because it isn't sharing that information in a format that
Declude can use, but apparently they are considering adding it to their
next major version.

That's definitely a deal breaker for me until it comes.  I suspect that
there might be other minutia that I rely upon that could cause issues,
and I'm hoping to learn more from others as people start to migrate.

Matt



Imail Admin wrote:

  Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in  a huff.  If you had
looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about
SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP.  My fingers just can't
keep up with my thoughts.  We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP
Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x.  We
plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a
similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic
here, remember?) with Declude JM.  Feel better?

Ben

P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either.  We take each mesasge that is to go
out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of
squirrels, and send those out the door.  We tried sending the scraps of
paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.

- Original Message -
From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


  
  
Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?

Ben

- Original Message - 
From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain




  Yes.

If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all
  

  
  clients
  
  
and


  configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
  

  
  comes
  
  

  in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for
  

  
  those
IPs.
  
  

  Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses
  

  
  and
  
  

  domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

Thanks,

Kevin

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Imail Admin
Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in  a huff.  If you had
looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about
SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP.  My fingers just can't
keep up with my thoughts.  We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP
Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x.  We
plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a
similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic
here, remember?) with Declude JM.  Feel better?

Ben

P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either.  We take each mesasge that is to go
out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of
squirrels, and send those out the door.  We tried sending the scraps of
paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.

- Original Message -
From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


> Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?
>
> Ben
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> > Yes.
> >
> > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all
clients
> and
> > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
comes
> > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for
those
IPs.
> >
> > Darin.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message - 
> > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses
and
> > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Dan Horne
No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.

- Original Message -
From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


> Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?
>
> Ben
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> > Yes.
> >
> > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all
clients
> and
> > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
comes
> > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for
those
IPs.
> >
> > Darin.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses
and
> > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Dan Geiser
I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge.

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To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


> Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?
>
> Ben
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> > Yes.
> >
> > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
> and
> > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
comes
> > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those
IPs.
> >
> > Darin.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
> >
> >
> > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
> > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-05 Thread Jeff Pereira
someone please tell me that this was a joke.


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> Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?
> 
> Ben
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Matt
WHITELIST AUTH should still be fine.  Although it might be 
proxies/relayed through Webshield, SMTP AUTH is credential driven and 
not related to the IP address, and Declude doesn't need the IP address 
for determining if something was sent with SMTP AUTH.  Whitelisting 
local users is extremely useful.

Matt

Kevin Stanford wrote:
I do have version 8. I don't think that I can use SMTP AUTH because I 
have Webshield for SMTP that sits in front of Imail. If I try the IP 
bypass route will it get confused because Webshield will pass (relay) 
it to Imail with an internal IP address?

Kevin
At 10:02 AM 04/04/05, Darin Cox wrote:
Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail 
passed
the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
weighting, really) using the ipfile test.

Darin.
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?
Is there any way to do this with V7.14?
> Yes.
>
> If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all 
clients
> and
> configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all 
mail comes
> in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for 
those IPs.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email 
addresses and
> domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Imail Admin
Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?

Ben

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To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


> Yes.
>
> If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
and
> configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
> in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
> domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Kevin Stanford
I do have version 8. I don't think that I can use SMTP AUTH because I have 
Webshield for SMTP that sits in front of Imail. If I try the IP bypass 
route will it get confused because Webshield will pass (relay) it to Imail 
with an internal IP address?

Kevin
At 10:02 AM 04/04/05, Darin Cox wrote:
Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed
the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
weighting, really) using the ipfile test.
Darin.
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?
Is there any way to do this with V7.14?
> Yes.
>
> If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
> and
> configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
> in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
> domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread gbirdsall
Yes, some of my users outgoing mail is being marked as spam.

So the best way would be to set up negative weights for IP addresses?  Is
there a way to do IP ranges with declude?

> Yes, but he originally asked how to avoid all spam that forged their
> domain
> from also being whitelisted.  Without IMail 8, the best way that I know of
> is to use a negative weight instead of a whitelist.  While some spam may
> slip through from the negative weight, this can be tuned to keep the
> amount
> low.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:13 AM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> It depends on the reason for using WHITELIST AUTH if it is because
> outgoing
> mail is being marked as spam or held you can look at the settings and
> ACTIONS in global.cfg also you could try adding the following line to your
> global.cfg
>
> WHITELIST FROM @yourdomain.com
>
> Where yourdomain is actually the name of your domain
>
> David B
> www.declude.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:03 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
> Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed
> the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
> weighting, really) using the ipfile test.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
> WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?
>
> Is there any way to do this with V7.14?
>
>
>> Yes.
>>
>> If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
>> and
>> configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
>> comes
>> in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those
>> IPs.
>>
>> Darin.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
>> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>>
>>
>> If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
>> domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Darin Cox
Yes, but he originally asked how to avoid all spam that forged their domain
from also being whitelisted.  Without IMail 8, the best way that I know of
is to use a negative weight instead of a whitelist.  While some spam may
slip through from the negative weight, this can be tuned to keep the amount
low.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


It depends on the reason for using WHITELIST AUTH if it is because outgoing
mail is being marked as spam or held you can look at the settings and
ACTIONS in global.cfg also you could try adding the following line to your
global.cfg

WHITELIST FROM @yourdomain.com

Where yourdomain is actually the name of your domain

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:03 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed
the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
weighting, really) using the ipfile test.

Darin.


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?

Is there any way to do this with V7.14?


> Yes.
>
> If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
> and
> configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
> in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
> domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread David Barker
It depends on the reason for using WHITELIST AUTH if it is because outgoing
mail is being marked as spam or held you can look at the settings and
ACTIONS in global.cfg also you could try adding the following line to your
global.cfg

WHITELIST FROM @yourdomain.com

Where yourdomain is actually the name of your domain

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:03 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed
the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
weighting, really) using the ipfile test.

Darin.


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?

Is there any way to do this with V7.14?


> Yes.
>
> If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
> and
> configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
> in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
> domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Darin Cox
Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed
the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
weighting, really) using the ipfile test.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?

Is there any way to do this with V7.14?


> Yes.
>
> If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
> and
> configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
> in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
> domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Darin Cox
Yes.

If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients and
configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.

Darin.


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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

Thanks,

Kevin

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread gbirdsall
I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?

Is there any way to do this with V7.14?


> Yes.
>
> If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
> and
> configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
> in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
>
>
> If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
> domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
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[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Kevin Stanford
If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and 
domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

Thanks,
Kevin
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