RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
Looking at the address book/list/file is entirely different than WHITELIST AUTH. Using the address file is AUTOWHITELIST either ON or OFF. John T eServices For You > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jaworski > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:06 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > My reading was Declude uses the SmartMail Address book as it is used in > iMail but does not yet look at the white list feature in SmarterMail. > > Michael Jaworski > Puget Sound Network, Inc. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:00 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > See previous post > > SmarterMail does support SMTP Auth but it does not at this time spaa that > info off to declude. > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darin Cox > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:34 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > Being in Florida, we use gators. We tried the usual pigeons > > initially, but they got eaten by the gators. Some of the messages > > actually still made it to the intended destination as the gators > > sought out the recipients' pools, > > but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the pigeons > > at all. Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes, > > but we have > > gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't. Usually > > the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though. > > > > On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth > > info on to Declude. Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this > > to verify that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail. > > > > Darin. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in a huff. If you > > had looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was > > talking about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP. My > > fingers just can't keep up with my thoughts. We use IMail 7.15, which > > does not support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I > > regret missing from 8.x. We > > plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if > > they had a > > similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic > > here, remember?) with Declude JM. Feel better? > > > > Ben > > > > P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either. We take each mesasge that is > > to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the > > backs of squirrels, and send those out the door. We tried sending the > > scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > > > > > Yes. >
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
The only thing that I know is from the following post: http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg23838.html Matt Darin Cox wrote: Ok, I see Matt chimed in to let us know that CPHZ and SmarterTools are still working on getting WHITELIST AUTH to work. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Being in Florida, we use gators. We tried the usual pigeons initially, but they got eaten by the gators. Some of the messages actually still made it to the intended destination as the gators sought out the recipients' pools, but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the pigeons at all. Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes, but we have gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't. Usually the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though. On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth info on to Declude. Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this to verify that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in a huff. If you had looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP. My fingers just can't keep up with my thoughts. We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x. We plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic here, remember?) with Declude JM. Feel better? Ben P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either. We take each mesasge that is to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of squirrels, and send those out the door. We tried sending the scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable. - Original Message - From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? Ben - Original Message ----- From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Yes. If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients and configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? Thanks, Kevin --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMai
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
My reading was Declude uses the SmartMail Address book as it is used in iMail but does not yet look at the white list feature in SmarterMail. Michael Jaworski Puget Sound Network, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:00 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain See previous post SmarterMail does support SMTP Auth but it does not at this time spaa that info off to declude. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darin Cox > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:34 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > Being in Florida, we use gators. We tried the usual pigeons > initially, but they got eaten by the gators. Some of the messages > actually still made it to the intended destination as the gators > sought out the recipients' pools, > but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the pigeons > at all. Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes, > but we have > gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't. Usually > the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though. > > On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth > info on to Declude. Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this > to verify that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail. > > Darin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in a huff. If you > had looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was > talking about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP. My > fingers just can't keep up with my thoughts. We use IMail 7.15, which > does not support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I > regret missing from 8.x. We > plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if > they had a > similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic > here, remember?) with Declude JM. Feel better? > > Ben > > P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either. We take each mesasge that is > to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the > backs of squirrels, and send those out the door. We tried sending the > scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable. > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. > > - Original Message - > From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? > > > > Ben > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all > clients > > and > > > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all > > > mail > comes > > > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for > those > IPs. > > > > > > Darin. > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email > > > addresses > and > > > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > --- > >
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
According to SmarterMail it will be availabel in 3.0 which will be availabel arrount August. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:27 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our DomainSomeone reported recently that WHITELIST AUTH won't yet work with SmarterMail because it isn't sharing that information in a format that Declude can use, but apparently they are considering adding it to their next major version.That's definitely a deal breaker for me until it comes. I suspect that there might be other minutia that I rely upon that could cause issues, and I'm hoping to learn more from others as people start to migrate.MattImail Admin wrote: Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in a huff. If you had looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP. My fingers just can't keep up with my thoughts. We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x. We plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic here, remember?) with Declude JM. Feel better? Ben P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either. We take each mesasge that is to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of squirrels, and send those out the door. We tried sending the scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable. - Original Message - From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? Ben - Original Message - From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Yes. If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients and configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? Thanks, Kevin --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
See previous post SmarterMail does support SMTP Auth but it does not at this time spaa that info off to declude. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darin Cox > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:34 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > Being in Florida, we use gators. We tried the usual pigeons > initially, but > they got eaten by the gators. Some of the messages actually still made it > to the intended destination as the gators sought out the > recipients' pools, > but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the pigeons > at all. Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes, > but we have > gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't. Usually > the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though. > > On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth info > on to Declude. Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this to verify > that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail. > > Darin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in a huff. If you had > looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was > talking about > SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP. My fingers just can't > keep up with my thoughts. We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP > Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing > from 8.x. We > plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if > they had a > similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic > here, remember?) with Declude JM. Feel better? > > Ben > > P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either. We take each mesasge > that is to go > out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of > squirrels, and send those out the door. We tried sending the scraps of > paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable. > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. > > - Original Message - > From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? > > > > Ben > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all > clients > > and > > > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail > comes > > > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for > those > IPs. > > > > > > Darin. > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses > and > > > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
Ok, I see Matt chimed in to let us know that CPHZ and SmarterTools are still working on getting WHITELIST AUTH to work. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Being in Florida, we use gators. We tried the usual pigeons initially, but they got eaten by the gators. Some of the messages actually still made it to the intended destination as the gators sought out the recipients' pools, but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the pigeons at all. Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes, but we have gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't. Usually the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though. On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth info on to Declude. Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this to verify that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in a huff. If you had looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP. My fingers just can't keep up with my thoughts. We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x. We plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic here, remember?) with Declude JM. Feel better? Ben P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either. We take each mesasge that is to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of squirrels, and send those out the door. We tried sending the scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable. - Original Message - From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? > > Ben > > - Original Message - > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > Yes. > > > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > > > Darin. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) > > > --- E-mail scanned for viruses by N
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
Being in Florida, we use gators. We tried the usual pigeons initially, but they got eaten by the gators. Some of the messages actually still made it to the intended destination as the gators sought out the recipients' pools, but we opted to just use them directly instead of messing with the pigeons at all. Works pretty well for those near the rivers and lakes, but we have gotten few complaints about slow delivery from those who aren't. Usually the complaints stop once the messages actually arrive, though. On a more serious note, I believe SmarterMail will pass the SMTP Auth info on to Declude. Hopefully someone at CPHZ will chime in on this to verify that WHITELIST AUTH does work with SmarterMail. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in a huff. If you had looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP. My fingers just can't keep up with my thoughts. We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x. We plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic here, remember?) with Declude JM. Feel better? Ben P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either. We take each mesasge that is to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of squirrels, and send those out the door. We tried sending the scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable. - Original Message - From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? > > Ben > > - Original Message - > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > Yes. > > > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > > > Darin. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) > > > --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
Actually it isn't that Imail 7 doesn't support SMTP Auth, it does. It's that it doesn't report whether a user has Authed in the message envelope, which was added in 8. Declude looks at the envelope for the WHITELIST AUTH feature. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imail Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:10 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in a huff. If you had looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP. My fingers just can't keep up with my thoughts. We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x. We plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic here, remember?) with Declude JM. Feel better? Ben P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either. We take each mesasge that is to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of squirrels, and send those out the door. We tried sending the scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable. - Original Message - From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? > > Ben > > - Original Message - > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > Yes. > > > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > > > Darin. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) > > > --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
Someone reported recently that WHITELIST AUTH won't yet work with SmarterMail because it isn't sharing that information in a format that Declude can use, but apparently they are considering adding it to their next major version. That's definitely a deal breaker for me until it comes. I suspect that there might be other minutia that I rely upon that could cause issues, and I'm hoping to learn more from others as people start to migrate. Matt Imail Admin wrote: Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in a huff. If you had looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP. My fingers just can't keep up with my thoughts. We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x. We plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic here, remember?) with Declude JM. Feel better? Ben P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either. We take each mesasge that is to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of squirrels, and send those out the door. We tried sending the scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable. - Original Message - From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? Ben - Original Message - From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Yes. If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients and configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? Thanks, Kevin --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
Alright guys, it was only a typo, no need to get in a huff. If you had looked at Darin's message that I quoted, you would see he was talking about SMTP Auth, and that was my question, not just SMTP. My fingers just can't keep up with my thoughts. We use IMail 7.15, which does not support SMTP Auth, and that's just about the only feature I regret missing from 8.x. We plan to look at Smarter Mail at some point, and I was curious if they had a similar feature so that we can whitelist our domains (which was the topic here, remember?) with Declude JM. Feel better? Ben P.S. Actually, we don't use SMTP either. We take each mesasge that is to go out, hand write them on small slips of paper, tie those to the backs of squirrels, and send those out the door. We tried sending the scraps of paper by US Mail, but that was less reliable. - Original Message - From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? > > Ben > > - Original Message - > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > Yes. > > > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > > > Darin. > > > > > > ----- Original Message - > > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) > > > --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
No, it uses MTP, the precursor to SMTP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? > > Ben > > - Original Message - > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > Yes. > > > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > > > Darin. > > > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) > > > --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
I think it uses STP...The Racer's Edge. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? > > Ben > > - Original Message - > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > Yes. > > > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > > > Darin. > > > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) > > > --- E-mail scanned for viruses by Nexus (http://www.ntgrp.com/mailscan) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
someone please tell me that this was a joke. - Original Message - From: "Imail Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? > > Ben > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
WHITELIST AUTH should still be fine. Although it might be proxies/relayed through Webshield, SMTP AUTH is credential driven and not related to the IP address, and Declude doesn't need the IP address for determining if something was sent with SMTP AUTH. Whitelisting local users is extremely useful. Matt Kevin Stanford wrote: I do have version 8. I don't think that I can use SMTP AUTH because I have Webshield for SMTP that sits in front of Imail. If I try the IP bypass route will it get confused because Webshield will pass (relay) it to Imail with an internal IP address? Kevin At 10:02 AM 04/04/05, Darin Cox wrote: Oops.. not that I know of. I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed the info to Junkmail. Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative weighting, really) using the ipfile test. Darin. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above? Is there any way to do this with V7.14? > Yes. > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > Darin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar? Ben - Original Message - From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > Yes. > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients and > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > Darin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
I do have version 8. I don't think that I can use SMTP AUTH because I have Webshield for SMTP that sits in front of Imail. If I try the IP bypass route will it get confused because Webshield will pass (relay) it to Imail with an internal IP address? Kevin At 10:02 AM 04/04/05, Darin Cox wrote: Oops.. not that I know of. I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed the info to Junkmail. Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative weighting, really) using the ipfile test. Darin. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above? Is there any way to do this with V7.14? > Yes. > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > Darin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
Yes, some of my users outgoing mail is being marked as spam. So the best way would be to set up negative weights for IP addresses? Is there a way to do IP ranges with declude? > Yes, but he originally asked how to avoid all spam that forged their > domain > from also being whitelisted. Without IMail 8, the best way that I know of > is to use a negative weight instead of a whitelist. While some spam may > slip through from the negative weight, this can be tuned to keep the > amount > low. > > Darin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:13 AM > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > It depends on the reason for using WHITELIST AUTH if it is because > outgoing > mail is being marked as spam or held you can look at the settings and > ACTIONS in global.cfg also you could try adding the following line to your > global.cfg > > WHITELIST FROM @yourdomain.com > > Where yourdomain is actually the name of your domain > > David B > www.declude.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:03 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > Oops.. not that I know of. I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed > the info to Junkmail. Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative > weighting, really) using the ipfile test. > > Darin. > > > ----- Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that > WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above? > > Is there any way to do this with V7.14? > > >> Yes. >> >> If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients >> and >> configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail >> comes >> in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those >> IPs. >> >> Darin. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM >> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain >> >> >> If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and >> domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. >> > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > __ NOD32 1.1044 (20050402) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
Yes, but he originally asked how to avoid all spam that forged their domain from also being whitelisted. Without IMail 8, the best way that I know of is to use a negative weight instead of a whitelist. While some spam may slip through from the negative weight, this can be tuned to keep the amount low. Darin. - Original Message - From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain It depends on the reason for using WHITELIST AUTH if it is because outgoing mail is being marked as spam or held you can look at the settings and ACTIONS in global.cfg also you could try adding the following line to your global.cfg WHITELIST FROM @yourdomain.com Where yourdomain is actually the name of your domain David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:03 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Oops.. not that I know of. I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed the info to Junkmail. Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative weighting, really) using the ipfile test. Darin. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above? Is there any way to do this with V7.14? > Yes. > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > Darin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. __ NOD32 1.1044 (20050402) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
It depends on the reason for using WHITELIST AUTH if it is because outgoing mail is being marked as spam or held you can look at the settings and ACTIONS in global.cfg also you could try adding the following line to your global.cfg WHITELIST FROM @yourdomain.com Where yourdomain is actually the name of your domain David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:03 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain Oops.. not that I know of. I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed the info to Junkmail. Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative weighting, really) using the ipfile test. Darin. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above? Is there any way to do this with V7.14? > Yes. > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > Darin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. __ NOD32 1.1044 (20050402) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
Oops.. not that I know of. I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed the info to Junkmail. Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative weighting, really) using the ipfile test. Darin. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above? Is there any way to do this with V7.14? > Yes. > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > Darin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
Yes. If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients and configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? Thanks, Kevin --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above? Is there any way to do this with V7.14? > Yes. > > If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients > and > configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users. If not, but all mail comes > in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs. > > Darin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain > > > If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and > domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it? Thanks, Kevin --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.