RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable outgoing scanning
Yes. With the latest beta of Declude JunkMail and the latest version of IMail, you can add a line WHITELIST AUTH to the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file to automatically whitelist E-mail sent from authenticated users. Sorry for asking for specifics, could you clarify the minimum versions of both software products for this function to work. The latest version of IMail is IMail v8.05 HF2 (although any IMail v8 will work fine for WHITELIST AUTH). The latest beta of Declude Virus is 1.78. Also, this command isn't in the manual, likely because it's still beta, but considering I read it thoroughly before I emailed the list, you might want to add a beta section to it. Beta features get added to the manual after they are in a released version (otherwise, there is too much confusion over Why does this feature not work?). One other note along these lines, I like to update my config files from time to time, but new commands found only in newer versions of the software often show up in them. Is there a chart of Declude version vs. command? I don't update the version of Declude as often as the config files, or as the case is at the moment, I need to get an agreement but won't be able to afford it for a little while. That's not a problem -- the config files are designed to be both forwards and backwards compatible, so if new features are added, it won't affect any older version. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable outgoing scanning
If I send a message that contains recipient addresses for both local accounts (ex: someone CC's their boss) and external addresses (say a Hotmail address) the external messages are processed through Declude and actions are taken despite global.cfg actions being set to Log for outgoing messages. That is correct. If I simply send the message to the same hotmail address w/o any additional recipient addresses that reside locally on the IMail server no Declude scanning occurs. What am I missing? That is correct too. The problem is with SMTP. When you send an E-mail to an internal and external address, you aren't sending an internal E-mail and an external E-mail. You are sending 1 E-mail that is both internal *and* external. When these conflicts occur, Declude JunkMail combines all actions that it can, and in the case of conflicts, chooses the harsher action. If you have outgoing settings for a spam test to LOG and incoming settings to DELETE, and an E-mail failing that test will be deleted if any of the recipients are local (and therefore the incoming actions are used). -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable outgoing scanning
Ok thanks Scott - that's interesting in a disappointing way :) For clients that find it critical to not have *any* inbound / outbound scanning is there a way to ensure this never happens in a shared hosting environment based on how SMTP works? Steve -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable outgoing scanning If I send a message that contains recipient addresses for both local accounts (ex: someone CC's their boss) and external addresses (say a Hotmail address) the external messages are processed through Declude and actions are taken despite global.cfg actions being set to Log for outgoing messages. That is correct. If I simply send the message to the same hotmail address w/o any additional recipient addresses that reside locally on the IMail server no Declude scanning occurs. What am I missing? That is correct too. The problem is with SMTP. When you send an E-mail to an internal and external address, you aren't sending an internal E-mail and an external E-mail. You are sending 1 E-mail that is both internal *and* external. When these conflicts occur, Declude JunkMail combines all actions that it can, and in the case of conflicts, chooses the harsher action. If you have outgoing settings for a spam test to LOG and incoming settings to DELETE, and an E-mail failing that test will be deleted if any of the recipients are local (and therefore the incoming actions are used). -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable outgoing scanning
For clients that find it critical to not have *any* inbound / outbound scanning is there a way to ensure this never happens in a shared hosting environment based on how SMTP works? What you need to do in this case is whitelist the E-mail, which ensures that it does not get caught. For example, you can add a line WHITELIST FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] or WHITELIST IP 192.0.2.25 to the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file, to whitelist based on the return address or IP address that the E-mail came from. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable outgoing scanning
Perfect - thanks. Steve -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable outgoing scanning For clients that find it critical to not have *any* inbound / outbound scanning is there a way to ensure this never happens in a shared hosting environment based on how SMTP works? What you need to do in this case is whitelist the E-mail, which ensures that it does not get caught. For example, you can add a line WHITELIST FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] or WHITELIST IP 192.0.2.25 to the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file, to whitelist based on the return address or IP address that the E-mail came from. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable outgoing scanning
Is it not possible (in anyway) for Declude to identify that an email came from an authenticated user? Yes. With the latest beta of Declude JunkMail and the latest version of IMail, you can add a line WHITELIST AUTH to the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file to automatically whitelist E-mail sent from authenticated users. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable outgoing scanning
Sorry for asking for specifics, could you clarify the minimum versions of both software products for this function to work. Also, this command isn't in the manual, likely because it's still beta, but considering I read it thoroughly before I emailed the list, you might want to add a beta section to it. One other note along these lines, I like to update my config files from time to time, but new commands found only in newer versions of the software often show up in them. Is there a chart of Declude version vs. command? I don't update the version of Declude as often as the config files, or as the case is at the moment, I need to get an agreement but won't be able to afford it for a little while. Thanks Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 7:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable outgoing scanning Is it not possible (in anyway) for Declude to identify that an email came from an authenticated user? Yes. With the latest beta of Declude JunkMail and the latest version of IMail, you can add a line WHITELIST AUTH to the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file to automatically whitelist E-mail sent from authenticated users. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
