Ok thanks Scott - that's interesting in a disappointing way :)  

For clients that find it critical to not have *any* inbound / outbound
scanning is there a way to ensure this never happens in a shared hosting
environment based on how SMTP works?

Steve

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From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable outgoing scanning


>If I send a message that contains recipient addresses for both local
>accounts (ex: someone CC's their boss) and external addresses (say a
Hotmail
>address) the external messages are processed through Declude and actions
are
>taken despite global.cfg actions being set to "Log" for outgoing messages.

That is correct.

>If I simply send the message to the same hotmail address w/o any additional
>recipient addresses that reside locally on the IMail server no Declude
>scanning occurs.  What am I missing?

That is correct too.

The problem is with SMTP.  When you send an E-mail to an internal and 
external address, you aren't sending an internal E-mail and an external 
E-mail.  You are sending 1 E-mail that is both internal *and* 
external.  When these conflicts occur, Declude JunkMail combines all 
actions that it can, and in the case of conflicts, chooses the "harsher" 
action.  If you have outgoing settings for a spam test to LOG and incoming 
settings to DELETE, and an E-mail failing that test will be deleted if any 
of the recipients are local (and therefore the incoming actions are used).

                                                    -Scott
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