Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-22 Thread R. Scott Perry

> No, you only need to use IPBYPASS if a "good" mailserver will be receiving
> the spam and passing it on to you (typically either a gateway mailserver or
> backup mailserver).
So instead of using HOP=1 when you know the IP address of the smtp 
gateway, it is
preferable to use IPBYPASS=[ip address]?  If so, why?
It's much easier to understand what is happening that way.  The HOP option 
is good if you have a configuration that likely will never change, and is 
very easy to understand (for example, your MX record is split evenly 
between two servers (with no backups), so all mail will go to IMail through 
those two servers).

Otherwise, it can get very confusing (IE "HOP 1" combined with an IPBYPASS 
line -- I'd have to check the manual to see how that would work).

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-22 Thread Dan Star
"R. Scott Perry" wrote:

> >I do have a whitelist with about 50 entries but these
> >are known domain names and email addresses that I have verified personally.
>
> Are any of them your domains?  For example, if we were to whitelist
> @declude.com, we would receive a lot more spam (because many spammers know
> that people whitelist their own domain).
>
> >Scott we don't have a backup mail server so I don't need to use IPBYPASS do I?
>
> No, you only need to use IPBYPASS if a "good" mailserver will be receiving
> the spam and passing it on to you (typically either a gateway mailserver or
> backup mailserver).
>

So instead of using HOP=1 when you know the IP address of the smtp gateway, it is
preferable to use IPBYPASS=[ip address]?  If so, why?

  -- Dan

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-19 Thread Karen D. Oland
> >I do have a whitelist with about 50 entries but these
> >are known domain names and email addresses that I have verified
> personally.
>
> Are any of them your domains?  For example, if we were to whitelist
> @declude.com, we would receive a lot more spam (because many spammers know
> that people whitelist their own domain).

Ditt on on whitelisting your postmaster or abuse accounts.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread Sean Fahey
Sadly, we too have seen a sudden influx of spam using the standard edition.

>>>

>>RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.


>>Thanks for all the responses. First Kami we don't have the Pro version so
we
>>can't use customized filters but I can use your from files in addition to
>>the ones that I am already using. I use a from file that I update manually

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

I do have a whitelist with about 50 entries but these
are known domain names and email addresses that I have verified personally.
Are any of them your domains?  For example, if we were to whitelist 
@declude.com, we would receive a lot more spam (because many spammers know 
that people whitelist their own domain).

Scott we don't have a backup mail server so I don't need to use IPBYPASS do I?
No, you only need to use IPBYPASS if a "good" mailserver will be receiving 
the spam and passing it on to you (typically either a gateway mailserver or 
backup mailserver).

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread Karl Hentschel
Thanks for all the responses. First Kami we don't have the Pro version so we
can't use customized filters but I can use your from files in addition to
the ones that I am already using. I use a from file that I update manually
and I also update it using the killlistgen utility from imagefxonline. I
haven't tried using spamchk yet but I'll look into it. Regarding the content
blocking on URL's, is that a customized test because I don't believe it is
included in declude. I do have a whitelist with about 50 entries but these
are known domain names and email addresses that I have verified personally.
Scott we don't have a backup mail server so I don't need to use IPBYPASS do
I? I'll get together some headers to send to you.

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> >There are a few people who are receiving over 30 spams a day and that is
> >just unacceptable considering we are running antispam software.

Also, what do you have whitelisted?
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Maybe start using the BLACKLIST option.  I've been doing that for a little
while, and it seems to cut back on a lot of spam.  I have them setup with a
20 weight and a ROUTETO my spam account so I can review and see if they're
legit or not..


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread Karen D. Oland
> >There are a few people who are receiving over 30 spams a day and that is
> >just unacceptable considering we are running antispam software.

Also, what do you have whitelisted?
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

Over the past several weeks our level of spam has doubled and a good
majority of it isn't failing enough tests to be blocked based on my
settings. The problem is that a good deal of it isn't failing ANY tests or
only helobogus and ipnotinmx.
Are you sure that the other tests are running (for example, mail from a 
backup won't be scanned properly unless you use an IPBYPASS line in the 
global.cfg file)?

There are a few people who are receiving over 30 spams a day and that is
just unacceptable considering we are running antispam software.
It sounds like they are being targeted for some reason; most likely, there 
is a pattern to the spams they are receiving (for example, almost all may 
be advertising the same product or service), which means that you'll need 
to come up with filtering for that user.  But, my guess would be a simple 
configuration issue (such as not having a backup listed in the IPBYPASS 
option).

Another option is to send me the complete headers of several spams that 
aren't getting caught; from that, I can often tell if a configuration 
change is necessary.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread Karen D. Oland
Have you tried content blocking on the URL's in the body?

Or checked the from or RDNS ranges to see if they have anything in common?
Usually, when I've seen this, it is one new spammer, shoving out as many as
possible before their new IP is known and blocked.

K

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> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.
>
>
> Over the past several weeks our level of spam has doubled and a good
> majority of it isn't failing enough tests to be blocked based on my
> settings. The problem is that a good deal of it isn't failing ANY tests or
> only helobogus and ipnotinmx. I can't really block on helobogus
> or ipnotinmx
> alone because I would have a great deal of false positives. One
> test that a
> few of the emails fail is SBL. Is anyone effectively blocking on
> SBL alone?
> Are there any other methods being used other than the declude
> tests? I have
> tried using keywords but it tends to generate too many false positives.
> There are a few people who are receiving over 30 spams a day and that is
> just unacceptable considering we are running antispam software. Any
> suggestions would be appreciated.
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