RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Our filter fromfiles.

2003-01-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Kami,
 I wanted to see if it would be possible to look at your lists, however, I 
noticed it required a password.  Thank you again.
 
-Keith

-Original Message- 
From: Kami Razvan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tue 1/21/2003 6:46 PM 
To: JunkMail List 
Cc: 
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Our filter  fromfiles.


Hi;
 
In case you are interested, we have created a simple Access database that 
contains all of our entries in for our fromfile and filter files.
 
Since it is all in the database we thought we can simply replicate it with the 
web site and provide it to all to use or consider.
 
You may want to visit:
 
http://www.ClickandPledge.com/Support/Mail
 
The categories are all separated since we have a different file for each 
filter type.
 
Just for the records:  We hold on weight 20 so all weights are based on this 
weight.
 
FreeeMail list - should not be used as a blacklist but a weight list.  We add 
5 to this list.  This list does not contain Hotmail.com or Yahoo.com.  It has other 
(Yahoo.com.tw) domains.
 
Hope it helps...
 
Regards,
Kami


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Our filter fromfiles.

2003-01-26 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi..
Sorry Keith - this is what happened.
 
Despite our specific robot tags for not having those pages indexed- it
appears that the pages were indexed and guess what will happen and what
words the company are being indexed for?  OUCH!  - this is what happens when
you try to do good!
 
A SPAM keyword should not be indexed under your company- not good for PR.
 
Marcus had suggested that the posting of those keywords and the URL's are
also not going to be good if SPAM'ers find out what is being done.  So the
best approach is for this to be protected.
 
This is what we did to fix the problem.
 
The URL for the pages are NOT going to be changed.  So once you visit the
page simply cut and paste the URL in an auto retrieval program.  That is
what we have done.  We are using WGET to retrieve these pages as well as
Tom's blacklist once a day at midnight.  So our people will simply update
the database and synchronize it with the web server while the mail server
synchs it at midnight.
 
We have added three additional filters that are also giving good results.
 
1: Blacklist emails found in body
 
2: Blacklist entries found in header (naturally if the blacklist is used in
the email it will be deleted, but at times spammers use hotmail in from
field but their return address is the blacklist entry).
 
3: Freeemails found in body.
 
These are all given 0 points in the filter since we add a uniform weight to
these filters in the body.
 
FILTER-BODY-BLACKLISTfilter
d:\IMail\Declude\IMail_Filter_BlacklistinBody.txt x 20 0
FILTER-HEADER-BLACKLIST filter
d:\IMail\Declude\IMail_Filter_BlacklistinHeader.txt  x 20 0
FILTER-BODY-FREEEMAILfilter
d:\IMail\Declude\IMail_Filter_FreeeMailinBody.txt   x 5 0 
 
Hope this helps.
 
Regards,
Kami
 
-Original Message-
From: Keith Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Keith Johnson
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Our filter  fromfiles.


Kami,
 I wanted to see if it would be possible to look at your lists,
however, I noticed it required a password.  Thank you again.
 
-Keith

-Original Message- 
From: Kami Razvan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tue 1/21/2003 6:46 PM 
To: JunkMail List 
Cc: 
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Our filter  fromfiles.


Hi;
 
In case you are interested, we have created a simple Access database that
contains all of our entries in for our fromfile and filter files.
 
Since it is all in the database we thought we can simply replicate it with
the web site and provide it to all to use or consider.
 
You may want to visit:
 
http://www.ClickandPledge.com/Support/Mail
 
The categories are all separated since we have a different file for each
filter type.
 
Just for the records:  We hold on weight 20 so all weights are based on this
weight.
 
FreeeMail list - should not be used as a blacklist but a weight list.  We
add 5 to this list.  This list does not contain Hotmail.com or Yahoo.com.
It has other (Yahoo.com.tw) domains.
 
Hope it helps...
 
Regards,
Kami


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Our filter fromfiles.

2003-01-22 Thread Don Schreiner
Title: Message



This 
is great for sharing and thank you.Is anyoneinterested in 
sharingtheir global.cfgand white/black list files and strategies 
that are working well for them. I feel overwhelmed these days keeping up the 
spam battle as mail server admin and all the other daily chores I am 
responsible. We handle a lot of religious and family oriented sites and cannot 
slack on our Spam control.

A few 
days ago, I finally bit the bullet and subscribed to sortmonster's sniffer. 
Hoping the$300/yr will decrease my Spam review time spent each day. I 
thought I was doing a pretty good job of eliminating spam - until I put a hold 
for reviewon all caught bythe sniffer filter.Basically 
Idiscovered thatwe are onlystopping about1/2 of the Spam 
hitting our server.Some confirmed Spam I reviewed failed no other tests 
other than sniffer. Now I am trying to figure outhow to revise my 
weighting so I do not have so much to review in the hold folder.We have 
weight of 20 for hold and 30 for delete. We run about 18 filters all weighted. I 
want more deletes and less to review in the hold folder daily! Sniffer is 
picking up a lot of false positives too and I know I need to get reporting with 
them and taking advantage of their custom config files for my license. I use 
Tom's updated list ongoing for our blacklist from file and it is a big 
help.

Is 
anyone willing to share their global.cfg who areusing sniffer, weighting, 
and their effective black and white lists that is workingout well for 
them? You can e-mail me off list [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Thanks.

Don SchreinerCompBiz, 
Inc.www.compbiz.net407-322-8654800-408-3688


-Original Message-From: 
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On Behalf Of Kami RazvanSent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:47 
PMTo: JunkMail ListSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Our filter 
 fromfiles.
Hi;

In case you are 
interested, we have created a simple Access database that contains all of our 
entries in for our fromfile and filter files.

Since it is all in 
the database we thought we can simply replicate it with the web site and provide 
it to all to use or consider.

You may want to 
visit:

http://www.ClickandPledge.com/Support/Mail

The 
categories are all separated since we have a different file for each filter 
type.

Just 
for the records: We hold on weight 20 so all weights are based on this 
weight.

FreeeMail list - should not be used as a blacklist but 
a weight list. We add 5 to this list. This list does not contain 
Hotmail.com or Yahoo.com. It has other (Yahoo.com.tw) 
domains.

Hope it 
helps...

Regards,
Kami