Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Moving mail servers
Dean Lawrence wrote: I host mail for a number of my clients, so there may be a period of time where they cannot get to their mail. I would like to minimize this. I had thought about just turning off the old server once the DNS changes have been made so that no mail would be lost in translation, A few days before the move, change the TTL on the existing DNS records to something very short. That way, once you change the IP address, there's a better chance that the fresh data will go out. but I had also thought about converting it to a store and forward server so that the mail will get delivered to the new server quicker. Not a bad idea, either. -- For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Chuck him out, the brute! But it's Saviour of 'is country when the guns begin to shoot; An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please; An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees! -- Rudyard Kipling, tommy - Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus / Sophos AV] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Moving mail servers
Bud, The TTL is a great suggestion. Thanks, Dean On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:38:55 -0500, Bud Durland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean Lawrence wrote: I host mail for a number of my clients, so there may be a period of time where they cannot get to their mail. I would like to minimize this. I had thought about just turning off the old server once the DNS changes have been made so that no mail would be lost in translation, A few days before the move, change the TTL on the existing DNS records to something very short. That way, once you change the IP address, there's a better chance that the fresh data will go out. but I had also thought about converting it to a store and forward server so that the mail will get delivered to the new server quicker. Not a bad idea, either. -- For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Chuck him out, the brute! But it's Saviour of 'is country when the guns begin to shoot; An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please; An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees! -- Rudyard Kipling, tommy - Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus / Sophos AV] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Moving mail servers
What Bud said, plus... You could set up a HOSTS file in C:\winnt\systrem32\drivers\etc\ with the IP address of your new server and the domain names that it services, one IP and domain name per line. Delete or rename all the customer domains from your current server. That should work as a temporary solution, which is just what you need. Sample HOSTS entries: 123.123.123.123myhost.com 123.123.123.123yourhost.org 123.123.123.123hisdomain.net etc... -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From: Dean Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Moving mail servers I am in the process of moving my Imail server to a different machine at a different hosting facility, hence a new IP. Does anyone have any suggestions for making this a smooth transition? I have moved Imail many times before, so I am not worried about the setup. What I am looking for is suggestions as to how to handle the lag time of routers picking up the new IP. I host mail for a number of my clients, so there may be a period of time where they cannot get to their mail. I would like to minimize this. I had thought about just turning off the old server once the DNS changes have been made so that no mail would be lost in translation, but I had also thought about converting it to a store and forward server so that the mail will get delivered to the new server quicker. What do you guys think? Thanks, Dean -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Moving mail servers
Thanks Dave, That is what I was originally think of doing with the store and forward option. Dean On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:50:59 -0500, Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Bud said, plus... You could set up a HOSTS file in C:\winnt\systrem32\drivers\etc\ with the IP address of your new server and the domain names that it services, one IP and domain name per line. Delete or rename all the customer domains from your current server. That should work as a temporary solution, which is just what you need. Sample HOSTS entries: 123.123.123.123myhost.com 123.123.123.123yourhost.org 123.123.123.123hisdomain.net etc... -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From: Dean Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Moving mail servers I am in the process of moving my Imail server to a different machine at a different hosting facility, hence a new IP. Does anyone have any suggestions for making this a smooth transition? I have moved Imail many times before, so I am not worried about the setup. What I am looking for is suggestions as to how to handle the lag time of routers picking up the new IP. I host mail for a number of my clients, so there may be a period of time where they cannot get to their mail. I would like to minimize this. I had thought about just turning off the old server once the DNS changes have been made so that no mail would be lost in translation, but I had also thought about converting it to a store and forward server so that the mail will get delivered to the new server quicker. What do you guys think? Thanks, Dean -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Moving mail servers
Dean, The best thing to do is lower your TTL well ahead of time of the move. If you lower your TTL down to about 5 minutes on your records your cutover should not take that long for mail to cutover to your new IP. Also, make sure you get your PTR records added ahead of time. Also you have the option of adding the new ip address as a secondary MX so that when the first box goes offline it should start hitting it right away. Than all you have to do is update and remove the old MX. Just make sure you lower the TTL's for any A records as well for how folks access the machine. Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Dean Lawrence writes: I am in the process of moving my Imail server to a different machine at a different hosting facility, hence a new IP. Does anyone have any suggestions for making this a smooth transition? I have moved Imail many times before, so I am not worried about the setup. What I am looking for is suggestions as to how to handle the lag time of routers picking up the new IP. I host mail for a number of my clients, so there may be a period of time where they cannot get to their mail. I would like to minimize this. I had thought about just turning off the old server once the DNS changes have been made so that no mail would be lost in translation, but I had also thought about converting it to a store and forward server so that the mail will get delivered to the new server quicker. What do you guys think? Thanks, Dean -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Moving mail servers
In addition to Bud's TTL suggestion, if you want to ensure zero interruption of service, you could have your customers create a second account to pull mail off of both servers, but in general a short TTL (say 15-60 minutes) and store and forward to the new server will work fine. Darin. - Original Message - From: Dean Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Moving mail servers I am in the process of moving my Imail server to a different machine at a different hosting facility, hence a new IP. Does anyone have any suggestions for making this a smooth transition? I have moved Imail many times before, so I am not worried about the setup. What I am looking for is suggestions as to how to handle the lag time of routers picking up the new IP. I host mail for a number of my clients, so there may be a period of time where they cannot get to their mail. I would like to minimize this. I had thought about just turning off the old server once the DNS changes have been made so that no mail would be lost in translation, but I had also thought about converting it to a store and forward server so that the mail will get delivered to the new server quicker. What do you guys think? Thanks, Dean -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Moving mail servers
Great Guys!! I really appreciate all of your input. Dean --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
