Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on Dell Poweredge 1750
Hello Markus, Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 10:31:27 AM, you wrote: MG I've to set up Imail/Declude on a Dell Poweredge 1750 with Dual 3 GHz Xeon MG CPUs and 4 Ethernet Ports. MG 2 x Intel NICs MG 2 x Broadcom NetXtreme Gbit NICs MG Now I have two questions: MG 1.) Anyone has had the known Imail-NIC problems with this Ethernet ports? Yep. MG 2.) The system is preconfigured with Win2003 Server on 2 x 80 GB RAID 1 SCSI MG drives. There are two preconfigured partitions: MG C: with 8 GB MG D: with the resting 69 GB MG So I plan to install Imail and the spool path on C: Don't do that. Create 2 more partitions with the rest of your 69G. One for Imail program files and one for spool only. Spool partition should NOT be larger than 4G. 2G is plenty, just make sure you move Imail log files out daily. Oh yea, and don't put your virus hold or declude log files in spool either. Both of those can be separated to another partition. (Imail log files can't) MG The second partition will be used to regulary move out fragmented files MG (hold-folder, virus-folder, logfiles) from the first partition and keep them MG for further elaboration (requeing, logfile analisis...) MG Any suggestions about the setup? MG Markus MG --- MG [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] MG --- MG This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To MG unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and MG type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found MG at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on Dell Poweredge 1750
Absolutely put your spool on it's own partition and have Declude and any other related application log to that partition. Both the IMail and Declude logs cause an unbelievable amount of fragmentation, and if you put these on your system partition, you will quickly diminish your system's performance. I would also recommend writing a script that moves the log files over to a separate partition after the end of the day. This will in effect defragment the drive as well as the files that are moved. I've done this on a very busy server and I no longer have any issues with fragmentation. Another piece of advice would be to keep the partitions as small as is practical. The outer edges of the disk's will read and write at 2 times the speed on the inside edge of the disks. When you partition space on drives, it will first be taken from the outer edges. So having extra space that you will never use will slow down your performance. Matt Markus Gufler wrote: I've to set up Imail/Declude on a Dell Poweredge 1750 with Dual 3 GHz Xeon CPUs and 4 Ethernet Ports. 2 x Intel NICs 2 x Broadcom NetXtreme Gbit NICs Now I have two questions: 1.) Anyone has had the known Imail-NIC problems with this Ethernet ports? 2.) The system is preconfigured with Win2003 Server on 2 x 80 GB RAID 1 SCSI drives. There are two preconfigured partitions: C: with 8 GB D: with the resting 69 GB As I can understand this configuration should work fine for the Imail/Declude server. This server should be a SMTP-gateway only, no Pop3, Imap, webmail. So I plan to install Imail and the spool path on C: The second partition will be used to regulary move out fragmented files (hold-folder, virus-folder, logfiles) from the first partition and keep them for further elaboration (requeing, logfile analisis...) Any suggestions about the setup? Markus --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on Dell Poweredge 1750
I use the same systems for my two Imail/Declude mail gateways Don't use the Broadcomm Nics! They will intermittently quit working! Like Dan said, install Imail on the D drive, there is more than enough disk space and horse power to deal with the other things you want to do. Each of mine get around 70K messages a day, I run extensive filtering files and barely push the CPUs Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group 440-953-9346 - Office 440-953-0925 - Fax 440-487-7344 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:31 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on Dell Poweredge 1750 I've to set up Imail/Declude on a Dell Poweredge 1750 with Dual 3 GHz Xeon CPUs and 4 Ethernet Ports. 2 x Intel NICs 2 x Broadcom NetXtreme Gbit NICs Now I have two questions: 1.) Anyone has had the known Imail-NIC problems with this Ethernet ports? 2.) The system is preconfigured with Win2003 Server on 2 x 80 GB RAID 1 SCSI drives. There are two preconfigured partitions: C: with 8 GB D: with the resting 69 GB As I can understand this configuration should work fine for the Imail/Declude server. This server should be a SMTP-gateway only, no Pop3, Imap, webmail. So I plan to install Imail and the spool path on C: The second partition will be used to regulary move out fragmented files (hold-folder, virus-folder, logfiles) from the first partition and keep them for further elaboration (requeing, logfile analisis...) Any suggestions about the setup? Markus --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on Dell Poweredge 1750
MG 1.) Anyone has had the known Imail-NIC problems with this Ethernet ports? Yep. And your solution? Installing another NIC card (3Com) beside the other four existing ethernet ports? Don't do that. Create 2 more partitions with the rest of your 69G. One for Imail program files and one for spool only. Spool partition should NOT be larger than 4G. 2G is plenty, just make sure you move Imail log files out daily. Oh yea, and don't put your virus hold or declude log files in spool either. Both of those can be separated to another partition. (Imail log files can't) So considering also Matt's reply: - Delete the existing 69 GB partition - Create the two small (and so faster) partitions with around 2 or 3 GB for Imail program files and Spool-folder - Create the last partition with all the remaining space to move out log- and hold-files from the spool folder. As I know I can specify the virus-folder in virus.cfg but I don't know how to specify the hold-folder outside the Imail-spoolfolder for the Declude HOLD action. Have I missed something? Thanks in advance Markus --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on Dell Poweredge 1750
1.) Anyone has had the known Imail-NIC problems with this Ethernet ports? We have 4 1750's using adapter teaming without any problem. Although I've never heard of an application level issue with a NIC (in WinNT+) 2.) The system is preconfigured with Win2003 Server on 2 x 80 GB RAID 1 SCSI drives. There are two preconfigured partitions: C: with 8 GB D: with the resting 69 GB As I can understand this configuration should work fine for the Imail/Declude server. This server should be a SMTP-gateway only, no Pop3, Imap, webmail. So I plan to install Imail and the spool path on C: The second partition will be used to regulary move out fragmented files (hold-folder, virus-folder, logfiles) from the first partition and keep them for further elaboration (requeing, logfile analisis...) Any suggestions about the setup? Markus I'd make the D: partition for 8-10GB and put the Imail apps on it. Then create an E: partition and mount the filesystem to d:\imail\spool Put your declude logs, etc in d:\imail\spool\spamlogs --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on Dell Poweredge 1750
Disks generally maintain throughput in 20 GB chunks these days, which leaves you with plenty of wiggle room. When creating partitions, the system obviously goes first, then followed by your IMail Users and then your Spool. The other partitions on your system shouldn't be accessed with any degree of frequency if dedicated to just being a mail server, so you could dump your logs periodically on a fourth partition without harm to performance. If you are running enough disks to give you enough I/O to outlive the processors, you don't have anything to worry about. I personally recommend RAID 5 despite the broad belief that RAID 10 is better. The reason is that you are limited in the number of drives that most servers can support, and you get better performance out of 6 drives in RAID 5 than you do with 6 drives in RAID 10. 6 Seagate Cheetah's at 15K RPM with write through cache can easily handle whatever Declude and IMail can throw at it on a dual 3GHz Xeon server. Two mirrored 10K drives however is a different story, and one would want to optimize as much as possible under that environment. My recommendation would be to figure out your current average disk space per user and multiply that by the number of users that you expect 3 years out and then double that number to account for growth in the average and you should be safe. I don't personally recommend installing IMail outside of the C: drive, just separate out both the users to their own partition, and the spool to it's own partition, and unless you are using Kiwi, log everything to the spool partition and move the files to an archive location with a scheduled process in order to mitigate the fragmentation. There is not going to be a measurable difference in performance if you make your spool 1GB or 5GB, but there would definitely be a difference between 5GB and 50GB, so don't dedicate the space unless you have to. It's also nice to have unused space present in the event of future need. I hope that helps explain at least my perspective on how to do this :) Matt sbsi lists wrote: Hi Markus, Interested in this too since I'm ramping up a new server install. But, one question to Matt/David/Rick/All... (by the way, thanks!) How do you handle larger mail boxes/webmail/imap if you are keeping your /imail/ main directory/program files down to a lower disk space? I understand keeping the disk space down to a minimum but I don't understand where storage would be if larger mailboxes/imap was allowed... TIA. -jason MG So considering also Matt's reply: MG - Delete the existing 69 GB partition MG - Create the two small (and so faster) partitions with around 2 or 3 GB for MG Imail program files and Spool-folder MG - Create the last partition with all the remaining space to move out log- MG and hold-files from the spool folder. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
