[Declude.Virus] Log entries

2003-08-22 Thread Doug McKee
08/22/2003 09:01:15 Q221e106 Could not find parse string Found in
report.txt

08/22/2003 08:58:07 Q211910e WARNING: Couldn't remove .vir directory
d:\IMail\spool\D211910e.vir\: EXTRA FILES THERE.
08/22/2003 08:58:07 Q211910e Likely problem: Your virus scanner is
leaving extra files/directories behind, so Declude can't delete the
directory.

Can someone please explain what these two entries mean?

I am blocking the usual list of extensions but a client emailed this
morning saying he received a .pif and a .scr.

Running 1.72i

Thanks,
Doug MCKee


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Re: [Declude.Virus] Log entries

2003-08-22 Thread R. Scott Perry

08/22/2003 09:01:15 Q221e106 Could not find parse string Found in
report.txt
This will happen if the virus scanner detects a virus, but the report.txt 
file that it creates does not include the virus name where Declude Virus 
expects it (more specifically, in this case, the word Found was not in 
the report.txt file).  This can happen if the virus scanner detects a 
suspicious file (in which case it won't know the name of the virus).

08/22/2003 08:58:07 Q211910e WARNING: Couldn't remove .vir directory
d:\IMail\spool\D211910e.vir\: EXTRA FILES THERE.
08/22/2003 08:58:07 Q211910e Likely problem: Your virus scanner is
leaving extra files/directories behind, so Declude can't delete the
directory.
In this case, you can look at the d:\IMail\spool\D211910e.vir\ directory to 
see what file(s) are in there.  If there is a report.txt file in there, it 
may be that a bug in Declude Virus prevented it from being deleted, since 
the word Found wasn't in there.

I am blocking the usual list of extensions but a client emailed this
morning saying he received a .pif and a .scr.
The best thing to do here is look at the Declude Virus log file entries to 
see if there were any errors/warnings for that specific E-mail.

   -Scott
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[Declude.Virus] Postmaster Email Alert

2003-08-22 Thread Dan Star
Is there a way to make Declude email postmaster at the originating IP
address reverse DNS domain and not the domain in the FROM field which is
usually spoofed?

  -- Dan

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Postmaster Email Alert

2003-08-22 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is there a way to make Declude email postmaster at the originating IP
address reverse DNS domain and not the domain in the FROM field which is
usually spoofed?
No.  The SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS option is used for cases like this.

We have considered using reverse DNS, IPWHOIS, [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc., but 
none seem to work well most of the time.

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[Declude.Virus] Using FORGINGVIRUS with more than one virus

2003-08-22 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
In my virus_cfg.txt file, I have:

FORGINGVIRUSKlez

To add the sobig virus, do I add another line? like this?

FORGINGVIRUSKlez
FORGINGVIRUSSobig

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Using FORGINGVIRUS with more than one virus

2003-08-22 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Yep..Exactly...you got it.

Have a great day.



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Subject: [Declude.Virus] Using FORGINGVIRUS with more than one virus


In my virus_cfg.txt file, I have:

FORGINGVIRUSKlez

To add the sobig virus, do I add another line? like this?

FORGINGVIRUSKlez
FORGINGVIRUSSobig

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Using FORGINGVIRUS with more than one virus

2003-08-22 Thread R. Scott Perry

In my virus_cfg.txt file, I have:

FORGINGVIRUSKlez

To add the sobig virus, do I add another line? like this?

FORGINGVIRUSKlez
FORGINGVIRUSSobig
That is correct.  You may want to take a look at the default files at 
http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm to see what other viruses we 
recommend including.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Postmaster Email Alert

2003-08-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
And the reason being is that many if not most mail server are not configured
to accept messages to the IP address. Also, in the case of Sobig, that would
not work anyway, as the IP address is of the workstation infected, which
could be anywhere.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
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 Is there a way to make Declude email postmaster at the originating IP
 address reverse DNS domain and not the domain in the FROM field which is
 usually spoofed?
 
 No.  The SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS option is used for cases like this.
 
 We have considered using reverse DNS, IPWHOIS, [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc., but
 none seem to work well most of the time.
 
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Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] McAfee Enterprise 7.0 not picking up Sobig.F

2003-08-22 Thread David Sullivan
Hello R.,

Thursday, August 21, 2003, 2:59:18 PM, you wrote:


I did that with eicar and the On-Demand Scanner picked it up. However, when
I did it with Sobig.F, there was no attachment. Then I noticed that it was a
bounced message from another server (not using SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS). I'm now
wondering if that is why McAfee On-Demand/Declude is not picking it up,
because the virus is part of the bounced message and it appears to not be
executable. However, F-Prot and McAfee On-Access both detect Sobig.F in the
SMD file. ??

RSP Most AV programs will not detect corrupt, non-viable variants, which often 
RSP includes bounce messages (because those bounce messages are usually truncated).

RSP -Scott
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We started seeing something similar about 2:00 a.m.  I started getting
warnings Trend that it was picking up viruses in my /spam folder.
Don't know how many going through because can't scan the /spool with
Trend.

Trying to figure out if they're non-viable.  Even if they are
Declude/F-prot should be stopping them though because we had a similar
problem a few weeks ago and added

VIRUSCODE 8

in order to stop suspicious files.

-David


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment

2003-08-22 Thread R. Scott Perry

No only that - but what's this web address that will be updated.

If it's an IP - then it should be easy to contact the upstream provider.

If it's a FQDN - then it should be easy for the registrar to lock this
particular domain against updates
I don't see why this is supposedly so difficult to accomplish?
Because it is happening at *exactly* the same time.  The timing is based on 
precise clocks, and even if the web site gets shut down in 1 minute, that's 
potentially many thousands of computers that may have downloaded the file.

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[Declude.Virus] Pentagon

2003-08-22 Thread Bill Newberg
The Pentagon would never buy Declude. It's not pricey enough, it's too
straight forward and easy to use, you don't have to hire a consultant to
study it for several million dollars, and it's name is not Pentagon proper.
Perhaps Scott can rename it to Declude Electronic Communication Attack
Software Defense System and become a consultant for the government
Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment

2003-08-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
According to this NBC news report, it will occur every Friday and Sunday.

 

http://www.nbc4.tv/technology/2426381/detail.html?treets=latml=la_natlbreak
ts=Ttmi=la_natlbreak_15913_01270008222003

 

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA

Engineer/Consultant

eServices For You

www.eservicesforyou.com

 



RE: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment

2003-08-22 Thread Fritz Squib
See http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?date=2003-08-22

Sobig Update Cycle 

SoBig-F, the most recent incarnation in the family of Sobig mass mailing
viruses, will be entering its update cycle today at 19:00 UTC. Between 19:00
and 22:00 UTC, the virus will attempt to contact a predefined set of hosts
to download updates. At this point, it is not know what the update will do. 

The list of master servers can be updated remotely by using signed UDP
packets to port 995-999. 

Fritz

Frederick P. Squib, Jr.
Network Operations
Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg
Citizens Internet Services
http://www.wpa.net

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment

2003-08-22 Thread Avolve Support
Exactly, if the servers are known, why doesn't the upstream providers be pro-active 
and block those ip's from being accessed ?

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From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:20:53 -0400

No only that - but what's this web address that will be updated.

If it's an IP - then it should be easy to contact the upstream provider.

If it's a FQDN - then it should be easy for the registrar to lock this
particular domain against updates

I don't see why this is supposedly so difficult to accomplish?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment


The worm connects to one of these 20 servers and authenticates itself with
a secret 8-byte code. The servers respond with a web address. Infected
machines download a program from this address - and run it. At this moment

snipped

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[Declude.Virus] SoBig - Narrowing down on source

2003-08-22 Thread Mark Smith
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32161-2003Aug22.html

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment

2003-08-22 Thread Bill Landry
Thanks for the heads-up, Kris.  We have applied filter rules to all of our
Internet routers to block all outbound IP access to the IP addresses listed
below and to block all outbound udp access to port 8998.

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Kris Rickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment



 
 It would seem to me that someone's decoded this encrypted list and if we
 knew what it was we could setup access lists to block connections to the
 20 machines.

 Ask, and you shall receive.

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 Subject: ISS Security Brief: Sobig.F Second Phase Action

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-


 Computers infected with the Sobig.F worm are programmed
 to automatically download an executable of unknown function
 from a hard-coded list of servers at 19:00 UTC (3:00pm EDT)
 X-Force is recommending wholesale outbound filtering of
 the following IP addresses:

 67.73.21.6
 68.38.159.161
 67.9.241.67
 66.131.207.81
 65.177.240.194
 65.93.81.59
 65.95.193.138
 65.92.186.145
 63.250.82.87
 65.92.80.218
 61.38.187.59
 24.210.182.156
 24.202.91.43
 24.206.75.137
 24.197.143.132
 12.158.102.205
 24.33.66.38
 218.147.164.29
 12.232.104.221
 68.50.208.96

 The request method uses UDP port 8998. X-Force also
 recommends that this port be filtered outbound.



 Kris Rickerson
 Server Administrator
 Middle Georgia College - Cochran, GA  31014
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment

2003-08-22 Thread paul
It make's me really wonder how many stupid people is not able to patch
 the own system (or at least outlook).

Exactly!

 they can't do more. (except write a worm that install automatically all
available patches from MS)

What they (M$) really need to do, is make windows update integrated into
Windows, the problem is they tell you Stay current with updates in a
little box above the taskbar when you install Windows (XP at least), so you
can elect to have them downloaded. or you have to download the critical
notification tool. Instead, it should already be set to retrieve critical
updates, and the notification should be a big window that says YOU HAVE
CRITICAL PATCHES FOR YOUR SYSTEM AVAILABLE TO INSTALL! PLEASE CONSULT KB
ARTICLE X TO ENSURE VALIDITY AND UPDATE ASAP FAILURE TO UPDATE LEAVES YOUR
SYSTEM VULNERABLE TO HACKERS, WORMS, VIRUSES, ETC. To which you click some
acknowledge button, but will come back if you don't update. People need to
know they need to keep software like this updated.

Plus M$ releasing a patch that doesn't cause more problems is nice too.

Paul


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment

2003-08-22 Thread Mark Smith
 What they (M$) really need to do, is make windows update 
 integrated into Windows, the problem is they tell you Stay 
 current with updates in a little box above the taskbar when

There are huge debates about this. It's amazing that people are against
this.
Look at the newsgroups, etc...

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment

2003-08-22 Thread andyb
If it was easy, and if every computer user was computer literate and
responsible, we wouldn't have jobs...

Andy
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From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment



  Sobig.G will have a line X-MailScanner: The Sobig.G virus is in the
  attachment, you will be infected if you open it... and
  Sobig.G will spread just as fast as Sobig.F.


 It make's me really wonder how many stupid people is not able to patch
 the own system (or at least outlook).

 I swear I will light 100 candles the day when a new
 Outlook-vulnerability worm will spread and removes any text, number and
 picture from any DOC, XLS, and PPT-files he can found.

 Other 100 candles if the worm places a You're really stupid! Patch your
 system or turn your computer of - immediatly! in any DOC-file. (Maybe
 also in other international languages)

 If the worms continue with the actual destructive functionality, most
 people will never patch the own system. They will only say: Ouch, how
 slow is the Internet today!


 What I will say:
 Not Sobig.f is frustrating but all this ignorant people that are not
 able to patch the own system.
 Culpability of MS? As I know they offer patches for all this
 vulnerabilities for a long time now. They can't do more. (except write a
 worm that install automatically all available patches from MS)

 Maybe the worm I wait for shouldn't delete anything, but change only
 some numbers in MS-Documents. I think that's enough to cause the
 attention of the end user - and not make work technicians like us day
 and night.

 Markus

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment

2003-08-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Any one seeing hearing of any happenings on this?

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sobig- Phase II bombardment

2003-08-22 Thread R. Scott Perry

Any one seeing hearing of any happenings on this?
F-Secure has reported that 1 of the 20 servers appears to be up, but it is 
so overwhelmed that viruses aren't getting anything from it.  But that does 
mean that some could be getting through.

All we've seen is what seems to be a precautionary measure from one ISP 
blocking home users from sending any ICMP or UDP packets, but it appears to 
just be a precautionary measure.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] VirusScan Enterprise 7.0 not detecting Sobig.F

2003-08-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
What is sick is their scanner loaded on Dell computers is NOT picking up
Sobig.F either.

I just ran a complete scan on a client computer with the installed McAfee,
and it came back clean. This was using their online scanner as installed on
computers. Sick.

I wonder how many home users out there think they are protected, but not?

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Newberg
 Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 9:21 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] VirusScan Enterprise 7.0 not detecting Sobig.F
 
 I received the following from McAfee. Apparently, there is an EXTRA.DAT
file
 to stop damaged Sobig.F. I attached it for anyone interested. I have not
had
 a chance to install and test it yet.
 
 Bill Newberg
 
 
 Bill,
 
 There is an extra.dat I can give you which will help detect sobig.f.dam.
 This is a damaged version of sobig which gets missed intermittently by
 different scanners and sounds like what you are dealing with.
 
 The extra.dat will reside along side the normal dat files in \program
 files\common files\network associates\engine
 
  -- Lance
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