[Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities
@all: we got someone who sends us mails with cr-vulnerabiliteis and we want to allow these vulnerabilities. we tried: ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] in virus.cfg but that doesnt work. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the x-declude-sender from the mailheader. any ideas?
RE: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities
I don't think that is a valid directive. Right now I believe cr-vulnerability function is either a "on or off" thing. There isn't much in options there. Until there is, you may want to consider a custom script/program to periodically look at held messages and releasing (moving back to the spool) those you specify. John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goebbels, Bernd (LDS)Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:37 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities @all: we got someone who sends us mails with cr-vulnerabiliteis and we want to allow these vulnerabilities. we tried: ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] in virus.cfg but that doesnt work. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the x-declude-sender from the mailheader. any ideas?
AW: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities
we know that ALLOWVULNERABILITIES exists and we used it exactly like it was discribed in this mailing list. but it doesn't work. -Ursprngliche Nachricht-Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Im Auftrag von John CarterGesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2005 14:53An: Declude.Virus@declude.comBetreff: RE: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities I don't think that is a valid directive. Right now I believe cr-vulnerability function is either a "on or off" thing. There isn't much in options there. Until there is, you may want to consider a custom script/program to periodically look at held messages and releasing (moving back to the spool) those you specify. John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goebbels, Bernd (LDS)Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:37 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities @all: we got someone who sends us mails with cr-vulnerabiliteis and we want to allow these vulnerabilities. we tried: ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] in virus.cfg but that doesnt work. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the x-declude-sender from the mailheader. any ideas?
[Declude.Virus] ALLOWVULNERABILITIES Directive
We are currently looking into a possible issue with this directive. We will be shortly releasing a incremental version with some enhancements and fixes. If ALLOWVULNERABILITIES does have an issue, it will be dealt with and documented. Thank you Declude Development
AW: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities
hi john, ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM is in the releasnotes for version 2.0, but there is nothing about it in the manual. mfg i.a. gez.markus guhl *** lds nrw ref. 241 tel.: 0211 9449 2578 fax.: 0211 9449 8344 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Ursprngliche Nachricht-Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Im Auftrag von John CarterGesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2005 14:53An: Declude.Virus@declude.comBetreff: RE: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities I don't think that is a valid directive. Right now I believe cr-vulnerability function is either a "on or off" thing. There isn't much in options there. Until there is, you may want to consider a custom script/program to periodically look at held messages and releasing (moving back to the spool) those you specify. John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goebbels, Bernd (LDS)Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:37 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities @all: we got someone who sends us mails with cr-vulnerabiliteis and we want to allow these vulnerabilities. we tried: ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] in virus.cfg but that doesnt work. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the x-declude-sender from the mailheader. any ideas?
RE: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities
Thanks.I did only check the manual and not release notes. John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guhl, Markus (LDS)Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:09 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: AW: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities hi john, ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM is in the releasnotes for version 2.0, but there is nothing about it in the manual. mfg i.a. gez.markus guhl *** lds nrw ref. 241 tel.: 0211 9449 2578 fax.: 0211 9449 8344 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Im Auftrag von John CarterGesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2005 14:53An: Declude.Virus@declude.comBetreff: RE: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities I don't think that is a valid directive. Right now I believe cr-vulnerability function is either a "on or off" thing. There isn't much in options there. Until there is, you may want to consider a custom script/program to periodically look at held messages and releasing (moving back to the spool) those you specify. John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goebbels, Bernd (LDS)Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:37 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] allowvulnerabilities @all: we got someone who sends us mails with cr-vulnerabiliteis and we want to allow these vulnerabilities. we tried: ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] in virus.cfg but that doesnt work. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the x-declude-sender from the mailheader. any ideas?
Re: [Declude.Virus] ALLOWVULNERABILITIES Directive
On 4 May 2005 at 9:11, Ralph Krausse wrote: Ralph - Excellent! Excellent for Declude list participation - I really appreciate it! Thanks -Nick We are currently looking into a possible issue with this directive. We will be shortly releasing a incremental version with some enhancements and fixes. If ALLOWVULNERABILITIES does have an issue, it will be dealt with and documented. Thank you Declude Development --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] ALLOWVULNERABILITIES Directive
THANK YOU FOR THE Participation in the forum!!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph KrausseSent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:11 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] ALLOWVULNERABILITIES Directive We are currently looking into a possible issue with this directive. We will be shortly releasing a incremental version with some enhancements and fixes. If ALLOWVULNERABILITIES does have an issue, it will be dealt with and documented. Thank you Declude Development
RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script
This update is the worst method IMO (The one referenced in the link here). I used to update every hour and using this I would find the machine with the updater hung on the screen timed out at least once a week. W2K Server SP4. What OS are you using it on where it does NOT create issues? I started writing a simple updater using 4NT copy /u which copies across anonymous ftp and http links and only copies new files. Perfect but then I read somewhere that fprot has no FTP updates available anymore so I rewrote the one for Mcafee command line instead since I do not have the full version installed on this machine and do not want to install the full version. The script pulls the superdat expands it and then the daily dat. I could not get the wget Mcafee script from the Declude links to work for long either. Wget got corrupted after 2 days saying it was not a valid win32 application. Those links on the Declude site should be removed as that stuff does not work anymore. 4NT from Jpsoft is simply the best tool for the job anyway. That and unzip from infozip and it is done. DC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:21 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Daniel, Give this a try: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html -Keith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:06 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script I have tried using this script. I keep getting an error referring to wget.exe and it doesn't update F-Prot. Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Goran Jovanovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:02 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Take a look at: http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100 F-Prot for DOS updater - A batch file that automatically updates F-Prot and its virus definitions (old version here), and a Cygwin version, and a complete .ZIPed version. Finally, a Simple version! Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:52 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Does anyone have an f-prot update script that they wouldn't mind sharing? I have tried one that I found, but never could get it to work. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script
My wget script for updating F-Prot has been working just fine for a few years now, and still continues to function properly. Bill - Original Message - From: Douglas Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script This update is the worst method IMO (The one referenced in the link here). I used to update every hour and using this I would find the machine with the updater hung on the screen timed out at least once a week. W2K Server SP4. What OS are you using it on where it does NOT create issues? I started writing a simple updater using 4NT copy /u which copies across anonymous ftp and http links and only copies new files. Perfect but then I read somewhere that fprot has no FTP updates available anymore so I rewrote the one for Mcafee command line instead since I do not have the full version installed on this machine and do not want to install the full version. The script pulls the superdat expands it and then the daily dat. I could not get the wget Mcafee script from the Declude links to work for long either. Wget got corrupted after 2 days saying it was not a valid win32 application. Those links on the Declude site should be removed as that stuff does not work anymore. 4NT from Jpsoft is simply the best tool for the job anyway. That and unzip from infozip and it is done. DC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:21 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Daniel, Give this a try: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html -Keith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:06 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script I have tried using this script. I keep getting an error referring to wget.exe and it doesn't update F-Prot. Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Goran Jovanovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:02 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Take a look at: http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100 F-Prot for DOS updater - A batch file that automatically updates F-Prot and its virus definitions (old version here), and a Cygwin version, and a complete .ZIPed version. Finally, a Simple version! Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:52 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Does anyone have an f-prot update script that they wouldn't mind sharing? I have tried one that I found, but never could get it to work. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script
Hmmm. Well, I went to the F-Prot website and picked out their link to download the latest signatures. They do not support the FTP method anymore, but: wget -N http://updates.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/get_randomly?fp-def and wget -N http://updates.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/get_randomly?macrdef2 do work very well. Thanks for pointing that out, Bill. It may be worth mentioning that when the GUI scheduler had problems, it would tell me instead of quietly erroring out or retrying, which was why I switched to the method discussed, which was to invoke: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html from Task Scheduler or AT commands. Since I switched to this method, my downloads have been flawless. I won't be switching to wget with http unless this turns out to be bad. For what it's worth, I've been using 3.16a and now 3.16b ... Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:27 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script My wget script for updating F-Prot has been working just fine for a few years now, and still continues to function properly. Bill - Original Message - From: Douglas Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script This update is the worst method IMO (The one referenced in the link here). I used to update every hour and using this I would find the machine with the updater hung on the screen timed out at least once a week. W2K Server SP4. What OS are you using it on where it does NOT create issues? I started writing a simple updater using 4NT copy /u which copies across anonymous ftp and http links and only copies new files. Perfect but then I read somewhere that fprot has no FTP updates available anymore so I rewrote the one for Mcafee command line instead since I do not have the full version installed on this machine and do not want to install the full version. The script pulls the superdat expands it and then the daily dat. I could not get the wget Mcafee script from the Declude links to work for long either. Wget got corrupted after 2 days saying it was not a valid win32 application. Those links on the Declude site should be removed as that stuff does not work anymore. 4NT from Jpsoft is simply the best tool for the job anyway. That and unzip from infozip and it is done. DC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:21 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Daniel, Give this a try: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html -Keith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:06 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script I have tried using this script. I keep getting an error referring to wget.exe and it doesn't update F-Prot. Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Goran Jovanovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:02 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Take a look at: http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100 F-Prot for DOS updater - A batch file that automatically updates F-Prot and its virus definitions (old version here), and a Cygwin version, and a complete .ZIPed version. Finally, a Simple version! Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:52 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Does anyone have an f-prot update script that they wouldn't mind sharing? I have tried one that I found, but never could get it to work. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe
Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script
Huh? What about FTP is not working? We're still FTPing from them. Latest defs are Monday at 10:34am. I just ran the FTP update script manually and it ran fine. Here's what we use open ftp.frisk.is user anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd pub binary hash prompt get fp-def.zip get macrdef2.zip close quit Darin. - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Hmmm. Well, I went to the F-Prot website and picked out their link to download the latest signatures. They do not support the FTP method anymore, but: wget -N http://updates.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/get_randomly?fp-def and wget -N http://updates.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/get_randomly?macrdef2 do work very well. Thanks for pointing that out, Bill. It may be worth mentioning that when the GUI scheduler had problems, it would tell me instead of quietly erroring out or retrying, which was why I switched to the method discussed, which was to invoke: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html from Task Scheduler or AT commands. Since I switched to this method, my downloads have been flawless. I won't be switching to wget with http unless this turns out to be bad. For what it's worth, I've been using 3.16a and now 3.16b ... Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:27 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script My wget script for updating F-Prot has been working just fine for a few years now, and still continues to function properly. Bill - Original Message - From: Douglas Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script This update is the worst method IMO (The one referenced in the link here). I used to update every hour and using this I would find the machine with the updater hung on the screen timed out at least once a week. W2K Server SP4. What OS are you using it on where it does NOT create issues? I started writing a simple updater using 4NT copy /u which copies across anonymous ftp and http links and only copies new files. Perfect but then I read somewhere that fprot has no FTP updates available anymore so I rewrote the one for Mcafee command line instead since I do not have the full version installed on this machine and do not want to install the full version. The script pulls the superdat expands it and then the daily dat. I could not get the wget Mcafee script from the Declude links to work for long either. Wget got corrupted after 2 days saying it was not a valid win32 application. Those links on the Declude site should be removed as that stuff does not work anymore. 4NT from Jpsoft is simply the best tool for the job anyway. That and unzip from infozip and it is done. DC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:21 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Daniel, Give this a try: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html -Keith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:06 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script I have tried using this script. I keep getting an error referring to wget.exe and it doesn't update F-Prot. Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Goran Jovanovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:02 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Take a look at: http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100 F-Prot for DOS updater - A batch file that automatically updates F-Prot and its virus definitions (old version here), and a Cygwin version, and a complete .ZIPed version. Finally, a Simple version! Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:52 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Does anyone have an f-prot update script that they wouldn't mind sharing? I have tried one that I found, but never could get it to work. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an
RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script
Darin you're depending on legacy support. I'd suggest that if you want to stick to this method, you work on your backup plan. See the Windows Updater FAQ: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/fpwin_faq_6.html which lists: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/30.html Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:43 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Huh? What about FTP is not working? We're still FTPing from them. Latest defs are Monday at 10:34am. I just ran the FTP update script manually and it ran fine. Here's what we use open ftp.frisk.is user anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd pub binary hash prompt get fp-def.zip get macrdef2.zip close quit Darin. - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Hmmm. Well, I went to the F-Prot website and picked out their link to download the latest signatures. They do not support the FTP method anymore, but: wget -N http://updates.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/get_randomly?fp-def and wget -N http://updates.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/get_randomly?macrdef2 do work very well. Thanks for pointing that out, Bill. It may be worth mentioning that when the GUI scheduler had problems, it would tell me instead of quietly erroring out or retrying, which was why I switched to the method discussed, which was to invoke: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html from Task Scheduler or AT commands. Since I switched to this method, my downloads have been flawless. I won't be switching to wget with http unless this turns out to be bad. For what it's worth, I've been using 3.16a and now 3.16b ... Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:27 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script My wget script for updating F-Prot has been working just fine for a few years now, and still continues to function properly. Bill - Original Message - From: Douglas Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script This update is the worst method IMO (The one referenced in the link here). I used to update every hour and using this I would find the machine with the updater hung on the screen timed out at least once a week. W2K Server SP4. What OS are you using it on where it does NOT create issues? I started writing a simple updater using 4NT copy /u which copies across anonymous ftp and http links and only copies new files. Perfect but then I read somewhere that fprot has no FTP updates available anymore so I rewrote the one for Mcafee command line instead since I do not have the full version installed on this machine and do not want to install the full version. The script pulls the superdat expands it and then the daily dat. I could not get the wget Mcafee script from the Declude links to work for long either. Wget got corrupted after 2 days saying it was not a valid win32 application. Those links on the Declude site should be removed as that stuff does not work anymore. 4NT from Jpsoft is simply the best tool for the job anyway. That and unzip from infozip and it is done. DC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:21 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Daniel, Give this a try: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html -Keith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:06 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script I have tried using this script. I keep getting an error referring to wget.exe and it doesn't update F-Prot. Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Goran Jovanovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:02 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Take a look at: http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100 F-Prot for DOS updater - A batch file that automatically updates F-Prot and its virus definitions (old version here), and a Cygwin version, and a complete .ZIPed version. Finally, a Simple version! Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey
Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script
Hi Andrew, We have monitoring in place to know if any management process fails, so we'll know if this no longer works and we need to change. However, this has worked flawlessly for years, so I see no reason to change to the F-Prot updater that was always iffy at best. Not sure how HTTP updates are any different from a legacy standpoint than FTP, since the F-Prot updater is the officially supported mechanism. In any case, my comment was just that it works fine, and has for years. I'll choose FTP over HTTP anyday if given the choice... Darin. - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:50 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Darin you're depending on legacy support. I'd suggest that if you want to stick to this method, you work on your backup plan. See the Windows Updater FAQ: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/fpwin_faq_6.html which lists: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/30.html Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:43 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Huh? What about FTP is not working? We're still FTPing from them. Latest defs are Monday at 10:34am. I just ran the FTP update script manually and it ran fine. Here's what we use open ftp.frisk.is user anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd pub binary hash prompt get fp-def.zip get macrdef2.zip close quit Darin. - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Hmmm. Well, I went to the F-Prot website and picked out their link to download the latest signatures. They do not support the FTP method anymore, but: wget -N http://updates.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/get_randomly?fp-def and wget -N http://updates.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/get_randomly?macrdef2 do work very well. Thanks for pointing that out, Bill. It may be worth mentioning that when the GUI scheduler had problems, it would tell me instead of quietly erroring out or retrying, which was why I switched to the method discussed, which was to invoke: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html from Task Scheduler or AT commands. Since I switched to this method, my downloads have been flawless. I won't be switching to wget with http unless this turns out to be bad. For what it's worth, I've been using 3.16a and now 3.16b ... Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:27 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script My wget script for updating F-Prot has been working just fine for a few years now, and still continues to function properly. Bill - Original Message - From: Douglas Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script This update is the worst method IMO (The one referenced in the link here). I used to update every hour and using this I would find the machine with the updater hung on the screen timed out at least once a week. W2K Server SP4. What OS are you using it on where it does NOT create issues? I started writing a simple updater using 4NT copy /u which copies across anonymous ftp and http links and only copies new files. Perfect but then I read somewhere that fprot has no FTP updates available anymore so I rewrote the one for Mcafee command line instead since I do not have the full version installed on this machine and do not want to install the full version. The script pulls the superdat expands it and then the daily dat. I could not get the wget Mcafee script from the Declude links to work for long either. Wget got corrupted after 2 days saying it was not a valid win32 application. Those links on the Declude site should be removed as that stuff does not work anymore. 4NT from Jpsoft is simply the best tool for the job anyway. That and unzip from infozip and it is done. DC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:21 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Daniel, Give this a try: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html -Keith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:06 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script I have tried using this script. I keep getting an error referring to wget.exe and it doesn't update F-Prot. Daniel === Daniel
Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script
Yep. We do the same thing for scheduling updates. Darin. - Original Message - From: Matt To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script FYI, my experience with the command line updater in F-Prot has been perfect so far as I can tell. I think the issue that you are referring to is the program updates that only the GUI handles through the F-Prot Updater which has been known to hang in the past when bandwidth isn't good. The command line tool can be set up in Windows Scheduler with a reasonable time out which should kill the command if it goes on too long, and it only handles the definitions. I can see from F-Prot's perspective that supporting scheduled FTP downloads is not good for their bandwidth since most probably don't bother to check to see if there is a newer file before downloading (not necessarily the case here). I schedule my command line to run at an odd minute, every 60 minutes in order to avoid any common download times and the slowdowns that might accompany them. I have McAfee update every 60 minutes offset 30 minutes from F-Prot."C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot\FP-Updater\Updater.exe" /HIDDEN /INTERNETMattDarin Cox wrote: Hi Andrew, We have monitoring in place to know if any management process fails, so we'll know if this no longer works and we need to change. However, this has worked flawlessly for years, so I see no reason to change to the F-Prot updater that was always iffy at best. Not sure how HTTP updates are any different from a legacy standpoint than FTP, since the F-Prot updater is the officially supported mechanism. In any case, my comment was just that it works fine, and has for years. I'll choose FTP over HTTP anyday if given the choice... Darin. - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:50 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Darin you're depending on legacy support. I'd suggest that if you want to stick to this method, you work on your backup plan. See the Windows Updater FAQ: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/fpwin_faq_6.html which lists: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/30.html Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:43 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Huh? What about FTP is not working? We're still FTPing from them. Latest defs are Monday at 10:34am. I just ran the FTP update script manually and it ran fine. Here's what we use open ftp.frisk.is user anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd pub binary hash prompt get fp-def.zip get macrdef2.zip close quit Darin. - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Hmmm. Well, I went to the F-Prot website and picked out their link to download the latest signatures. They do not support the FTP method anymore, but: wget -N http://updates.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/get_randomly?fp-def and wget -N http://updates.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/get_randomly?macrdef2 do work very well. Thanks for pointing that out, Bill. It may be worth mentioning that when the GUI scheduler had problems, it would tell me instead of quietly erroring out or retrying, which was why I switched to the method discussed, which was to invoke: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html from Task Scheduler or AT commands. Since I switched to this method, my downloads have been flawless. I won't be switching to wget with http unless this turns out to be bad. For what it's worth, I've been using 3.16a and now 3.16b ... Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:27 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script My wget script for updating F-Prot has been working just fine for a few years now, and still continues to function properly. Bill - Original Message - From: "Douglas Cohn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script This update is the worst method IMO (The one referenced in the link here). I used to update every hour and using this I would find the machine with the updater hung on the screen timed out at least once a week. W2K Server SP4. What OS are you using it on where it does NOT create issues? I started writing a simple updater using 4NT copy /u which copies across anonymous ftp and http links and only copies new files. Perfect but then I read somewhere that fprot has no FTP updates available anymore so I rewrote the one for Mcafee
[Declude.Virus] Sober.o and Yahoo
Yahoo is accepting e-mail to user infected with the Sober.o virus and then sending a bounce to the forged address saying the message can not be delivered for user over quota. Now, how funny is that? John T eServices For You --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script
Same here. Wget rocks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:27 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script My wget script for updating F-Prot has been working just fine for a few years now, and still continues to function properly. Bill - Original Message - From: Douglas Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script This update is the worst method IMO (The one referenced in the link here). I used to update every hour and using this I would find the machine with the updater hung on the screen timed out at least once a week. W2K Server SP4. What OS are you using it on where it does NOT create issues? I started writing a simple updater using 4NT copy /u which copies across anonymous ftp and http links and only copies new files. Perfect but then I read somewhere that fprot has no FTP updates available anymore so I rewrote the one for Mcafee command line instead since I do not have the full version installed on this machine and do not want to install the full version. The script pulls the superdat expands it and then the daily dat. I could not get the wget Mcafee script from the Declude links to work for long either. Wget got corrupted after 2 days saying it was not a valid win32 application. Those links on the Declude site should be removed as that stuff does not work anymore. 4NT from Jpsoft is simply the best tool for the job anyway. That and unzip from infozip and it is done. DC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:21 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Daniel, Give this a try: http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html -Keith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:06 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script I have tried using this script. I keep getting an error referring to wget.exe and it doesn't update F-Prot. Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Goran Jovanovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:02 AM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Take a look at: http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100 F-Prot for DOS updater - A batch file that automatically updates F-Prot and its virus definitions (old version here), and a Cygwin version, and a complete .ZIPed version. Finally, a Simple version! Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:52 AM To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com' Subject: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script Does anyone have an f-prot update script that they wouldn't mind sharing? I have tried one that I found, but never could get it to work. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Daniel === Daniel Ivey GCR Company / GCR Online Voice: 434 - 570 - 1765 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from
[Declude.Virus] OT? Imail to Smartermail conversion
So, we're looking at moving some servers from Imail to Smartermail. Anyone care to give me their 2-cents on what to expect as far as migration pains? I noticed their little migration utility converts mailboxes/etc, but I didn't see anything about listservs and the like. What other stuff are we likely to run into? Corrupted mailboxes? Any manual recovery or such? Does the utility run fairly quickly? Also, any catches with Declude? I haven't really been following the politics since we've stayed on 1.x, is 2.x fairly stable now? Thanks for any thoughts -J --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.Virus] OT? Imail to Smartermail conversion
We converted to SmarterMail in January - best decision we ever made! Very few glitches, which I can dig out information on if you decide to go forward/need - but nothing major at all. I did not personally run the conversion, but can get some timings for you if you want. SmarterMail has been so much better than iMail that you won't believe it! :)) It doesn't get backlogged, or hung or anything and it uses a fraction of the server resources. The web interface is *much* better! We converted around a 1,000 domains with 6,000 or so users - again, IIRC, this is off the top. We did not install Declude right away, mostly because it was in Beta at the time IIRC. In any case, we installed Declude Virus/F-Prot in mid-March I think and it has worked fine. HTH. In my little mind SmarterMail was a great choice by Declude! :)) Thank you, David Weber Windows 2000 MCP http://www.orcsweb.com/ Powerful Web Hosting Solutions #1 in Service and Support - Original Message - From: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:01 PM Subject: [Declude.Virus] OT? Imail to Smartermail conversion So, we're looking at moving some servers from Imail to Smartermail. Anyone care to give me their 2-cents on what to expect as far as migration pains? I noticed their little migration utility converts mailboxes/etc, but I didn't see anything about listservs and the like. What other stuff are we likely to run into? Corrupted mailboxes? Any manual recovery or such? Does the utility run fairly quickly? Also, any catches with Declude? I haven't really been following the politics since we've stayed on 1.x, is 2.x fairly stable now? Thanks for any thoughts -J --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.Virus] OT? Imail to Smartermail conversion
Thanks David, I'd appreciate anything info you could pass along! Jonathan David wrote: We converted to SmarterMail in January - best decision we ever made! Very few glitches, which I can dig out information on if you decide to go forward/need - but nothing major at all. I did not personally run the conversion, but can get some timings for you if you want. SmarterMail has been so much better than iMail that you won't believe it! :)) It doesn't get backlogged, or hung or anything and it uses a fraction of the server resources. The web interface is *much* better! We converted around a 1,000 domains with 6,000 or so users - again, IIRC, this is off the top. We did not install Declude right away, mostly because it was in Beta at the time IIRC. In any case, we installed Declude Virus/F-Prot in mid-March I think and it has worked fine. HTH. In my little mind SmarterMail was a great choice by Declude! :)) Thank you, David Weber Windows 2000 MCP http://www.orcsweb.com/ Powerful Web Hosting Solutions #1 in Service and Support - Original Message - From: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:01 PM Subject: [Declude.Virus] OT? Imail to Smartermail conversion So, we're looking at moving some servers from Imail to Smartermail. Anyone care to give me their 2-cents on what to expect as far as migration pains? I noticed their little migration utility converts mailboxes/etc, but I didn't see anything about listservs and the like. What other stuff are we likely to run into? Corrupted mailboxes? Any manual recovery or such? Does the utility run fairly quickly? Also, any catches with Declude? I haven't really been following the politics since we've stayed on 1.x, is 2.x fairly stable now? Thanks for any thoughts -J --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.Virus] I hate Sober.o
One of the addresses it is using as the forged from address is the postmaster address of one of my major clients. I have received over 50 failure to deliver notices to that address from all kinds of domains including AOL since noon today. That means there are still way to many e-mail servers out there not using Declude Virus. Gr John T eServices For You --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.