RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

I switched from i5 to i8 6 hours ago. Until now I can see two empty vir
directories. Before I've had one undeleted vir directory per month. (5000 to
7000 msgs / day)
What is in those files?

Have you checked the Declude Virus log file to see the log file entries for 
those E-mails?

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
 I believe it is only with the new encrypted (password) zip files.  I saw in 
my log (when running i8) that my Scanners were picking up and detecting normal zip's, 
normal pifs, normal scr. etc. of all virus flavors (if there is such thing as normal). 
 I believe I wouldn't see (as long as we have a sig file) any banning of normal zips 
(un-passworded) since the AV scanner would pick it and process it first before 
banning.   
 
 For whatever reason, any password laid virus zip files containing com, pif, 
scr, exe, or others are not getting picked up on our system with i8, however, they are 
with i7.   I hope this helps.  
 
 I just used to test this was the Eicar.com virus zipped up with WinZip with 
an applied password.  Ran it through both to an address on the system and also to 
another Declude protected Imail system, both came straight through.
 
Keith


I'm not clear on exactly what is happening.  Is the problem *only* with
.ZIP files, or is it also occurring with other types of files?

-Scott


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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread andyb
I also forwarded the original message to your email addresswith .zip
attached.

Thanks, Andy

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 Matt, that's how I have it setup, and one got through.

 What is one?  A .ZIP file with a banned encrypted file extension?  A
.ZIP
 file with a banned non-encrypted file extension? A .ZIP file with an
 encrypted file that does not have a banned file extension?  Something
else?


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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

I also forwarded the original message to your email addresswith .zip
attached.
No, no, NO.

NEVER send a virus or any file that you think may be malicious to ANY 
E-mail address that is not expecting it.

We have one and only one E-mail address that viruses or suspicious files 
may be sent to (the declude.com virustrap address).

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
I am not using BANEXT EZIP with i7 nor i8 per your instructions to remove it 
in place of the new commands:
 
BANEZIPEXTS and BANZIPEXTS ON
 
   I used that encoded file to test it under i8 first and it went straight 
through, that is what tipped me off that something was not right.  I then turned 
around and made my own test from eicar.com and it went through.  I just tested it 
under i7 and it got caught.  I am unsure where to turn as our .vir directories are off 
the charts.  
 
Keith

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  For whatever reason, any password laid virus zip files
 containing com, pif, scr, exe, or others are not getting picked up on our
 system with i8, however, they are with i7.   I hope this helps.

I assume you are using BANEXT EZIP with i7.  Are you using it with i8 as
well?  Do you have BANEXT com, BANEXT pif, etc. in your virus.cfg file?

  I just used to test this was the Eicar.com virus zipped up with
 WinZip with an applied password.  Ran it through both to an address on
 the system and also to another Declude protected Imail system, both came
 straight through.

Do the eicarencodedzip E-mail from the Test Virus Sender at
http://www.declude.com/tools/ get caught?

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
 This is my top portion of my virus.cfg file under i7 and i8.  
 
Keith

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Scott, 
 This is a 'top' sample of what I have listed in my Virus.CFG file:
 
BANEZIPEXTS ON
BANZIPEXTS ON
BANEXT exe
BANEXT ex_
BANEXT pif
BANEXT pi_
BANEXT scr
BANEXT sc_
BANEXT bat
BANEXT ba_
BANEXT com
BANEXT co_
 
 Since we modify extensions at our Firewall, you see the different 
alternate extensions above.  I made no modifications to the above moving to i8.  I 
noticed in my log (tried MID and HIGH) after moving to i8 that I no longer saw any 
Banning extension with (EXT) lines.  Thus, I got concerned.  On average, we get a 
virus every few seconds, and moving back to i7, within a minute, I was catching the 
banned extension inside of zip's again.  When I was on i8, I did a simple test of 
zipping an Eicar .com virus and password protecting it.  I ran it through and it went 
straight to my inbox.  I then dropped back to i7 and ran the same file through and it 
was picked up and logged, however, the directory couldn't be removed.  Thus, this 
morning I had well over 200 plus .vir directories to delete.  Any thoughts?  Thanks 
for the aid.
 
Keith
 
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I'll second that. Running 1.78i8, with BANZIPEXTS and BANEZIPEXTS ON, 
the
encoded zip eicar test passes through. The regular zip version of the 
eicar
test is caught.

Just to clarify, this IS the expected behavior with 1.78i18.

BANZIPEXTS ON and BANEZIPEXTS ON will *only* block .ZIP files *if* they
contain files that have a banned file extension.  So unless you also 
have a
line BANEXT com in the virus.cfg file, an encrypted eicar.com file 
won't
get caught.

For others having issues with these new features, please be very clear 
what
is happening.  There are a lot of possibilities here.  You'll need to
specify [1] Whether you are using BANZIPEXTS ON or BANEZIPEXTS ON (or 
the
not-recommended-but-still-useful BANEXT EZIP), [2] Whether you have a
BANEXT line to block the appropriate file (BANEXT com, for example), 
[3]
What type of file you are sending through (.com? .com within a .zip?), 
[4]
If it is a .ZIP file, is the file inside it encrypted?

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[Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Guhl, Markus (LDS)
Title: New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files






hi scott,


i know, that right now it is more important to fight this new virii, but i might have a small problem with 1.78i8.


i am using 1.78i8 (with BANZIPEXTS ON and BANEZIPEXTS ON and no BANEXT EZIP) and some lines like the following are in my viruslog:

03/03/2004 10:19:17 Qa313025b008ed2a1 Invalid COM Vulnerability

03/03/2004 10:19:17 Qa313025b008ed2a1 File(s) are INFECTED [: W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 3]

03/03/2004 10:19:17 Qa313025b008ed2a1 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 2 22057]


does this mean that the COM Vulnerability and the virus was discovered?


what was the value of %VIRUSNAME% in this case? i use SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS to switch between different emls for normal virii and vulnerabilitys.


mfg

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

03/03/2004 10:19:17 Qa313025b008ed2a1 Invalid COM Vulnerability
03/03/2004 10:19:17 Qa313025b008ed2a1 File(s) are INFECTED [: 
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 3]

does this mean that the COM Vulnerability and the virus was discovered?
Correct.  v1.78i9 fixes this, so that the Invalid COM Vulnerability will 
not be used when a virus scanner detects a virus (so users will see 
W32/Netsky.B in their notifications, rather than Invalid COM 
Vulnerability).

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
I don't know that our firewall is the issue due to it working
under i7 and all prior Declude versions.  The Firewall only modifies the
extension, it does not in anyway alter the file.  When you wrote that i7
will not block encrypted zips without the BANEXT EZIP line, it was my
understanding if you have the following:

BANEZIPEXTS ON
BANEXT com

then it will block encrypted zip files containg .com files?  Am
I wrong?  Do I need to have all the following lines in there?

BANEZIPEXTS ON
BANEXT EZIP
BANEXT com

I thought you mentioned that BANEXT EZIP was 'undesireable' and
using the first example above was ideal? 

Version i7 is causing the .vir directories and the lines in the
log that indicate Declude could not remove the .vir directory.  Inside
those directories are files called 0.zi and 1.zi   It was my
understanding that i8 fixed this issue with the .vir directory and also
added new features for attacking .bat, .scr. Etc.  

I am currently on i7, due to i8 not catching encrypted .zip
files with extensions in my BANEXT listing.  This was tested from the
encoded zip file as well as an eicar.com file zipped and password
protected.  



Keith

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 I am not using BANEXT EZIP with i7 nor i8 per your 
 instructions to remove it in place of the new commands:

In that case, i7 will *not* block any encrypted .ZIP files.

BANEZIPEXTS and BANZIPEXTS ON

I used that encoded file to test it under i8 first and it went 
 straight through, that is what tipped me off that something was not
right.

What extension does the attachment in your mail client show?  I'm
thinking that the firewall is mucking things up (if it renames the .ZIP
to .ZI or .ZI_, for example, Declude Virus won't look at it).

I am unsure where to turn as our .vir directories are off the charts.

Unfortunately, this isn't useful information without knowing which
version(s) caused them, and preferably the log file entries for them as
well.  There was an old interim that could cause this, but the latest
should not.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Matt,
I had a space in mine, not a tab.  For what it is worth.

Keith 

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bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

Here's a thought.

Since this is working in some cases and not in others, maybe there is a
syntax bug.

I have the following:

BANEZIPEXTStabON
BANEXTtabEXE
BANEXTtabCOM
etc.

What if someone had spaces, multiple spaces or multiple tabs?  How about
a space or tab following one of the lines?  Maybe Declude isn't parsing
this correctly from the config file???

I think it's worth a quick look.

Matt






R. Scott Perry wrote:


 I apologize for the flood of emails to you as I know your 
 time is precious.  However, I pulled the following that BANZIPEXTS 
 and BANEZIPEXTS was added in i7:


 Sorry, my mistake.

 I am unsure on the .zip to .zi_ as I have no issues with 
 Declude with versions 1.78i7 and prior.  It was only with i8 that 
 Declude was not seeing the zip with hiding file extensions any
longer.


 Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding the 
 hiding file extensions.

 Again, it is vital that people be very clear in their posts.  I'm very

 close to turning this into a moderated list until this all blows over.

 What we are looking for is to get as much information about bugs in 
 the new interim as quickly as possible on this list, while at the same

 time minimizing the amount of posts to this list.


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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Matt,
Is yours working with the TAB, I'll try anything?

Keith 

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Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block
bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

Here's a thought.

Since this is working in some cases and not in others, maybe there is a
syntax bug.

I have the following:

BANEZIPEXTStabON
BANEXTtabEXE
BANEXTtabCOM
etc.

What if someone had spaces, multiple spaces or multiple tabs?  How about
a space or tab following one of the lines?  Maybe Declude isn't parsing
this correctly from the config file???

I think it's worth a quick look.

Matt






R. Scott Perry wrote:


 I apologize for the flood of emails to you as I know your 
 time is precious.  However, I pulled the following that BANZIPEXTS 
 and BANEZIPEXTS was added in i7:


 Sorry, my mistake.

 I am unsure on the .zip to .zi_ as I have no issues with 
 Declude with versions 1.78i7 and prior.  It was only with i8 that 
 Declude was not seeing the zip with hiding file extensions any
longer.


 Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding the 
 hiding file extensions.

 Again, it is vital that people be very clear in their posts.  I'm very

 close to turning this into a moderated list until this all blows over.

 What we are looking for is to get as much information about bugs in 
 the new interim as quickly as possible on this list, while at the same

 time minimizing the amount of posts to this list.


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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Rodney Bertsch
Again, it is vital that people be very clear in their posts.  I'm very
close to turning this into a moderated list until this all blows over.


Scott, I can certainly sympathize with what you are going through there.
You do an OUTSTANDING job for us and I rank Declude as #1 in my book in all
areas.

I for one would GLADLY want you to turn this into a moderated list.  My
inbox is flooded as it is by virus notifications, add to the immense amount
of posts on the declude list and it's all I can do to just wade through my
e-mail.  I subscribe to the declude list to keep up on all the latest virus
info, not to read a hundred posts asking the same question over and over
again.

PLEASE go to a moderated list!

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Matt
Here's a thought.

Since this is working in some cases and not in others, maybe there is a 
syntax bug.

I have the following:

BANEZIPEXTStabON
BANEXTtabEXE
BANEXTtabCOM
etc.
What if someone had spaces, multiple spaces or multiple tabs?  How about 
a space or tab following one of the lines?  Maybe Declude isn't parsing 
this correctly from the config file???

I think it's worth a quick look.

Matt





R. Scott Perry wrote:


I apologize for the flood of emails to you as I know your time
is precious.  However, I pulled the following that BANZIPEXTS and
BANEZIPEXTS was added in i7:


Sorry, my mistake.

I am unsure on the .zip to .zi_ as I have no issues with Declude
with versions 1.78i7 and prior.  It was only with i8 that Declude was
not seeing the zip with hiding file extensions any longer.


Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding the 
hiding file extensions.

Again, it is vital that people be very clear in their posts.  I'm very 
close to turning this into a moderated list until this all blows over.

What we are looking for is to get as much information about bugs in 
the new interim as quickly as possible on this list, while at the same 
time minimizing the amount of posts to this list.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread andyb
thanks,

Andy
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.bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files


 Virustrap at the declude.com domain - Scott wisely doesn't post actual
 @ addresses on the list.  The list archive is probably scanned for
 addresses just as our websites are.

 John

 -Original Message-

 OK...

 so I got a No, no, NO

 but what is the address!!!???


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  We have one and only one E-mail address that viruses or suspicious
 files
  may be sent to (the declude.com virustrap address).
 
  -Scott


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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread System Administrator
on 3/3/04 12:13 PM, ISPhuset Nordic AS wrote:

 could you please post the link here

http://www.declude.com/interim/

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-03 Thread Don Hickey
I tried this with 1,2,3 spaces and tabs between the BANZIPEXTS, BANZIPEXTS
and the ON.

Then I send myself a compress .pif file both pw protected and not pw
proteced and every single one was caught (eight total) (as banned extensions
ZIP-PIF).

All my BANEXT lines have one space between it and the actual extension
name...example-

BANEXTSPEXE

#Regular Zip File
BANZIPEXTS   ON
#Password Protected Zip File
BANEZIPEXTS   ON

Don


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From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus
.bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files


 Here's a thought.

 Since this is working in some cases and not in others, maybe there is a
 syntax bug.

 I have the following:

 BANEZIPEXTStabON
 BANEXTtabEXE
 BANEXTtabCOM
 etc.

 What if someone had spaces, multiple spaces or multiple tabs?  How about
 a space or tab following one of the lines?  Maybe Declude isn't parsing
 this correctly from the config file???

 I think it's worth a quick look.

 Matt






 R. Scott Perry wrote:

 
  I apologize for the flood of emails to you as I know your time
  is precious.  However, I pulled the following that BANZIPEXTS and
  BANEZIPEXTS was added in i7:
 
 
  Sorry, my mistake.
 
  I am unsure on the .zip to .zi_ as I have no issues with
Declude
  with versions 1.78i7 and prior.  It was only with i8 that Declude was
  not seeing the zip with hiding file extensions any longer.
 
 
  Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding the
  hiding file extensions.
 
  Again, it is vital that people be very clear in their posts.  I'm very
  close to turning this into a moderated list until this all blows over.
 
  What we are looking for is to get as much information about bugs in
  the new interim as quickly as possible on this list, while at the same
  time minimizing the amount of posts to this list.
 
 
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[Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-02 Thread R. Scott Perry
We now have a new interim release 1.78i8 of Declude Virus Pro at 
http://www.declude.com/interim that will look for invalid .bat, .com, .pif, 
and .scr files, and will treat them as vulnerabilities.  It is expected 
that this will cut down significantly on the impact of future viruses in 
the time before new virus definitions are available.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-02 Thread Matt
Scott,

Can I have a million dollars???

:)



R. Scott Perry wrote:

We now have a new interim release 1.78i8 of Declude Virus Pro at 
http://www.declude.com/interim that will look for invalid .bat, .com, 
.pif, and .scr files, and will treat them as vulnerabilities.  It is 
expected that this will cut down significantly on the impact of future 
viruses in the time before new virus definitions are available.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-02 Thread Donn Bly
Title: RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files






If we are already blocking those extensions, how would that help?


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 We now have a new interim release 1.78i8 of Declude Virus Pro at 

 http://www.declude.com/interim that will look for invalid 

 .bat, .com, .pif, 

 and .scr files, and will treat them as vulnerabilities. It 

 is expected 

 that this will cut down significantly on the impact of future 

 viruses in 

 the time before new virus definitions are available.

 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] New interim Declude Virus Pro to block bogus .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files

2004-03-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

If we are already blocking those extensions, how would that help?
If you are already blocking .bat, .com, .pif, and .scr files, the new 
interim release won't help.

However, if you are not blocking all those files (most of our customers are 
not), it will help.

It can also be used if you want to allow the good files through.  For 
example, if people have a legitimate need to send .PIF files through, the 
new blocking of bogus .PIF files should prevent any viruses from getting 
through with .PIF extensions.  .bat/.com/.scr have holes that would allow 
viruses through, but it's unlikely that any viruses would take advantage of 
those holes (there are other holes that they can use more easily and gain 
more from).

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