Re: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

2004-06-07 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,

> Actually why couldn't Declude run uudecode and reassemble the file before
> hand, then have it scanned and determine if it is harmful or not??

Because the time between the e-mail with first part might be one second, one
day one week, etc. Declude now simply scans one e-mail, and when it's
finished... it's finished. If it were to scan something like this it would
need to "remember" stuff between scans. And, when would Declude decide a
file sent in parts is complete? And what if a part is missing, when would
Declude decide it would never get to see all parts? And what would Declude
need to do with all parts before it has seen *all* parts and can finally
decide whether they contain a virus or not?

Multiple questions/problems which Declude would need to solve but for which
is no need to solve them. The reason for sending a large file in parts is
virually gone,. I can find only one reason today, either the sender or
receiver is on a slow dial-up and want's to send/receive across *dial-up
sessions* for whatever reason. If that's the case, maybe they should split
up the file beforehand using ZIP/RAR/etc. and sent eacht part seperate.

Groetjes,

Bonno Bloksma


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RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

2004-06-05 Thread Douglas Cohn
Actually why couldn't Declude run uudecode and reassemble the file before
hand, then have it scanned and determine if it is harmful or not??

DC 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Cohn
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 5:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

Uuencode/Uudecode is what we used to use before the high speed world became
a reality.  

You would type Uudecode and the file name and path.  If I remember as long
as all the parts where in the same directory it would reassemble it.  There
are plenty of mailers that will reassemble and I really thought all of them
did it today.

UUencode/UUdecode
UUencode/UUdecode is a software utility that converts a binary file (often a
photo or a graphic) to an ASCII (text) file so that it can be sent as an
attachment to an e-mail message or downloaded from a newsgroup. Since e-mail
messages must be text, not binary information, UUencode disguises non-text
files as text so that they can be included in a mail message. When the
message is received, the recipient, or their e-mail program, runs UUdecode
to convert it to the original file. 

Easily available on the net via shareware.  Google UUencode

Doug

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Loughlin
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 2:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

Was there ever a way to put these emails back together?
I had some one send me pictures that got broken up by this, and was
wondering if they could be re-assembled.

Bruce


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF


Yes I looked again and you are right. So Declude would have to keep track of
e-mail to e-mail and possible out of sequence and different clients marking
the split stuff in different ways 

On/Off switch is the way to go (unfortunately)



 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF
>
> I think the problem is, that while the extension may show up in one of
the
> 5, it would not be in all 5 and therefore not an accurate test.
>
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:37 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a
PDF
> >
> >
> > I guess it would be nice to say
> >
> > BANPARTIAL   EXE
> > BANPARTIAL   COM
> > BANPARTIAL   VBS
> >
> > Etc
> >
> > I don't think a PDF can be infected but then again you never know so 
> > maybe .
> >
> > In any case it is almost a damned if you do damned if you don't
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> >
> >      Goran Jovanovic
> >  The LAN Shoppe
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 3:28 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a
PDF
> > >
> > > Goran,
> > >
> > > Outlook/Outlook Express allows a sender to split messages over a
> > certain
> > > size into multiple attachments.  Messages of this type can bypass
> > virus
> > > scanning and therefore represent a vulnerability.  I have however 
> > > personally determined that because it is so easy to turn on, and
> > because
> > > I have yet to find any viruses that are currently exploiting this
> > flaw,
> > > that it is better to leave it off for now rather than comb over my
> > hold
> > > file looking for such messages and alerting those that are set up
for
> > > this.  Scott does provide a stitch for your Virus.cfg that can
turn
> > this
> > > off with the following:
> > >
> > > BANPARTIALOFF
> > >
> > > I don't feel that this is a "set it and forget it" type of
setting, so
> > > use at your own risk, 

RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

2004-06-05 Thread Douglas Cohn
Uuencode/Uudecode is what we used to use before the high speed world became
a reality.  

You would type Uudecode and the file name and path.  If I remember as long
as all the parts where in the same directory it would reassemble it.  There
are plenty of mailers that will reassemble and I really thought all of them
did it today.

UUencode/UUdecode
UUencode/UUdecode is a software utility that converts a binary file (often a
photo or a graphic) to an ASCII (text) file so that it can be sent as an
attachment to an e-mail message or downloaded from a newsgroup. Since e-mail
messages must be text, not binary information, UUencode disguises non-text
files as text so that they can be included in a mail message. When the
message is received, the recipient, or their e-mail program, runs UUdecode
to convert it to the original file. 

Easily available on the net via shareware.  Google UUencode

Doug

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Loughlin
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 2:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

Was there ever a way to put these emails back together?
I had some one send me pictures that got broken up by this, and was
wondering if they could be re-assembled.

Bruce


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF


Yes I looked again and you are right. So Declude would have to keep track of
e-mail to e-mail and possible out of sequence and different clients marking
the split stuff in different ways 

On/Off switch is the way to go (unfortunately)



 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF
>
> I think the problem is, that while the extension may show up in one of
the
> 5, it would not be in all 5 and therefore not an accurate test.
>
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:37 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a
PDF
> >
> >
> > I guess it would be nice to say
> >
> > BANPARTIAL   EXE
> > BANPARTIAL   COM
> > BANPARTIAL   VBS
> >
> > Etc
> >
> > I don't think a PDF can be infected but then again you never know so 
> > maybe .
> >
> > In any case it is almost a damned if you do damned if you don't
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> >
> >  Goran Jovanovic
> >  The LAN Shoppe
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 3:28 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a
PDF
> > >
> > > Goran,
> > >
> > > Outlook/Outlook Express allows a sender to split messages over a
> > certain
> > > size into multiple attachments.  Messages of this type can bypass
> > virus
> > > scanning and therefore represent a vulnerability.  I have however 
> > > personally determined that because it is so easy to turn on, and
> > because
> > > I have yet to find any viruses that are currently exploiting this
> > flaw,
> > > that it is better to leave it off for now rather than comb over my
> > hold
> > > file looking for such messages and alerting those that are set up
for
> > > this.  Scott does provide a stitch for your Virus.cfg that can
turn
> > this
> > > off with the following:
> > >
> > > BANPARTIALOFF
> > >
> > > I don't feel that this is a "set it and forget it" type of
setting, so
> > > use at your own risk, and keep your eyes and ears pealed for
exploits
> > in
> > > the event that a virus does start exploiting the flaw.  Thankfully
the
> > > trickery has gone down since the arrested that German teenager :)
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > >
> > > >

RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

2004-06-04 Thread Bruce Loughlin
Was there ever a way to put these emails back together?
I had some one send me pictures that got broken up by this, and was
wondering if they could be re-assembled.

Bruce


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF


Yes I looked again and you are right. So Declude would have to keep
track of e-mail to e-mail and possible out of sequence and different
clients marking the split stuff in different ways 

On/Off switch is the way to go (unfortunately)



 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF
>
> I think the problem is, that while the extension may show up in one of
the
> 5, it would not be in all 5 and therefore not an accurate test.
>
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:37 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a
PDF
> >
> >
> > I guess it would be nice to say
> >
> > BANPARTIAL   EXE
> > BANPARTIAL   COM
> > BANPARTIAL   VBS
> >
> > Etc
> >
> > I don't think a PDF can be infected but then again you never know so
> > maybe .
> >
> > In any case it is almost a damned if you do damned if you don't
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> >
> >  Goran Jovanovic
> >  The LAN Shoppe
> >
> > > -----Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 3:28 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a
PDF
> > >
> > > Goran,
> > >
> > > Outlook/Outlook Express allows a sender to split messages over a
> > certain
> > > size into multiple attachments.  Messages of this type can bypass
> > virus
> > > scanning and therefore represent a vulnerability.  I have however
> > > personally determined that because it is so easy to turn on, and
> > because
> > > I have yet to find any viruses that are currently exploiting this
> > flaw,
> > > that it is better to leave it off for now rather than comb over my
> > hold
> > > file looking for such messages and alerting those that are set up
for
> > > this.  Scott does provide a stitch for your Virus.cfg that can
turn
> > this
> > > off with the following:
> > >
> > > BANPARTIALOFF
> > >
> > > I don't feel that this is a "set it and forget it" type of
setting, so
> > > use at your own risk, and keep your eyes and ears pealed for
exploits
> > in
> > > the event that a virus does start exploiting the flaw.  Thankfully
the
> > > trickery has gone down since the arrested that German teenager :)
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > >
> > > >Declude Virus and F-Prot reported
> > > >
> > > >X-Declude-Virus: Detected [Partial Vulnerability].
> > > >
> > > >This is an e-mail that has been cut into 5 part and it has a PDF
> > > >attached to it.
> > > >
> > > >--=_NextPart_000_0019_01C4494C.0AFFE0A0
> > > >Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
> > > > name="Report.pdf"
> > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> > > >Content-Disposition: attachment;
> > > > filename="Report.pdf"
> > > >
> > > >We stopped the 5 e-mails but why would it have triggered on a PDF
> > file?
> > > >
> > > >Also how does the client out the PDF back together???
> > > >
> > > >Thanx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Goran Jovanovic
> > > > The LAN Shoppe
> > > >
> > > >---
> > > >[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> > > (http://www.declude.com)]
> >

RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

2004-06-03 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Yes I looked again and you are right. So Declude would have to keep
track of e-mail to e-mail and possible out of sequence and different
clients marking the split stuff in different ways 

On/Off switch is the way to go (unfortunately)


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF
> 
> I think the problem is, that while the extension may show up in one of
the
> 5, it would not be in all 5 and therefore not an accurate test.
> 
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:37 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a
PDF
> >
> >
> > I guess it would be nice to say
> >
> > BANPARTIAL   EXE
> > BANPARTIAL   COM
> > BANPARTIAL   VBS
> >
> > Etc
> >
> > I don't think a PDF can be infected but then again you never know so
> > maybe .
> >
> > In any case it is almost a damned if you do damned if you don't
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> >
> >  Goran Jovanovic
> >  The LAN Shoppe
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 3:28 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a
PDF
> > >
> > > Goran,
> > >
> > > Outlook/Outlook Express allows a sender to split messages over a
> > certain
> > > size into multiple attachments.  Messages of this type can bypass
> > virus
> > > scanning and therefore represent a vulnerability.  I have however
> > > personally determined that because it is so easy to turn on, and
> > because
> > > I have yet to find any viruses that are currently exploiting this
> > flaw,
> > > that it is better to leave it off for now rather than comb over my
> > hold
> > > file looking for such messages and alerting those that are set up
for
> > > this.  Scott does provide a stitch for your Virus.cfg that can
turn
> > this
> > > off with the following:
> > >
> > > BANPARTIALOFF
> > >
> > > I don't feel that this is a "set it and forget it" type of
setting, so
> > > use at your own risk, and keep your eyes and ears pealed for
exploits
> > in
> > > the event that a virus does start exploiting the flaw.  Thankfully
the
> > > trickery has gone down since the arrested that German teenager :)
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> > >
> > > >Declude Virus and F-Prot reported
> > > >
> > > >X-Declude-Virus: Detected [Partial Vulnerability].
> > > >
> > > >This is an e-mail that has been cut into 5 part and it has a PDF
> > > >attached to it.
> > > >
> > > >--=_NextPart_000_0019_01C4494C.0AFFE0A0
> > > >Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
> > > > name="Report.pdf"
> > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> > > >Content-Disposition: attachment;
> > > > filename="Report.pdf"
> > > >
> > > >We stopped the 5 e-mails but why would it have triggered on a PDF
> > file?
> > > >
> > > >Also how does the client out the PDF back together???
> > > >
> > > >Thanx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Goran Jovanovic
> > > > The LAN Shoppe
> > > >
> > > >---
> > > >[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> > > (http://www.declude.com)]
> > > >
> > > >---
> > > >This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  To
> > > >unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> > > >type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found
> > > >at http://www.mail-archive.com.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

2004-06-03 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I think the problem is, that while the extension may show up in one of the
5, it would not be in all 5 and therefore not an accurate test.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF
> 
> 
> I guess it would be nice to say
> 
> BANPARTIAL   EXE
> BANPARTIAL   COM
> BANPARTIAL   VBS
> 
> Etc
> 
> I don't think a PDF can be infected but then again you never know so
> maybe .
> 
> In any case it is almost a damned if you do damned if you don't
> 
> Thanx
> 
> 
>  Goran Jovanovic
>  The LAN Shoppe
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 3:28 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF
> >
> > Goran,
> >
> > Outlook/Outlook Express allows a sender to split messages over a
> certain
> > size into multiple attachments.  Messages of this type can bypass
> virus
> > scanning and therefore represent a vulnerability.  I have however
> > personally determined that because it is so easy to turn on, and
> because
> > I have yet to find any viruses that are currently exploiting this
> flaw,
> > that it is better to leave it off for now rather than comb over my
> hold
> > file looking for such messages and alerting those that are set up for
> > this.  Scott does provide a stitch for your Virus.cfg that can turn
> this
> > off with the following:
> >
> > BANPARTIALOFF
> >
> > I don't feel that this is a "set it and forget it" type of setting, so
> > use at your own risk, and keep your eyes and ears pealed for exploits
> in
> > the event that a virus does start exploiting the flaw.  Thankfully the
> > trickery has gone down since the arrested that German teenager :)
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> >
> > >Declude Virus and F-Prot reported
> > >
> > >X-Declude-Virus: Detected [Partial Vulnerability].
> > >
> > >This is an e-mail that has been cut into 5 part and it has a PDF
> > >attached to it.
> > >
> > >--=_NextPart_000_0019_01C4494C.0AFFE0A0
> > >Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
> > >   name="Report.pdf"
> > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> > >Content-Disposition: attachment;
> > >   filename="Report.pdf"
> > >
> > >We stopped the 5 e-mails but why would it have triggered on a PDF
> file?
> > >
> > >Also how does the client out the PDF back together???
> > >
> > >Thanx
> > >
> > >
> > > Goran Jovanovic
> > > The LAN Shoppe
> > >
> > >---
> > >[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> > (http://www.declude.com)]
> > >
> > >---
> > >This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  To
> > >unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
> > >type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found
> > >at http://www.mail-archive.com.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
> =
> > MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro.
> > http://www.mailpure.com/software/
> >
> =
> >
> >
> > ---
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> > (http://www.declude.com)]
> >
> > ---
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> 
> 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

2004-06-03 Thread Goran Jovanovic

I guess it would be nice to say 

BANPARTIAL   EXE
BANPARTIAL   COM
BANPARTIAL   VBS

Etc 

I don't think a PDF can be infected but then again you never know so
maybe .

In any case it is almost a damned if you do damned if you don't

Thanx

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
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> 
> Goran,
> 
> Outlook/Outlook Express allows a sender to split messages over a
certain
> size into multiple attachments.  Messages of this type can bypass
virus
> scanning and therefore represent a vulnerability.  I have however
> personally determined that because it is so easy to turn on, and
because
> I have yet to find any viruses that are currently exploiting this
flaw,
> that it is better to leave it off for now rather than comb over my
hold
> file looking for such messages and alerting those that are set up for
> this.  Scott does provide a stitch for your Virus.cfg that can turn
this
> off with the following:
> 
> BANPARTIALOFF
> 
> I don't feel that this is a "set it and forget it" type of setting, so
> use at your own risk, and keep your eyes and ears pealed for exploits
in
> the event that a virus does start exploiting the flaw.  Thankfully the
> trickery has gone down since the arrested that German teenager :)
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> Goran Jovanovic wrote:
> 
> >Declude Virus and F-Prot reported
> >
> >X-Declude-Virus: Detected [Partial Vulnerability].
> >
> >This is an e-mail that has been cut into 5 part and it has a PDF
> >attached to it.
> >
> >--=_NextPart_000_0019_01C4494C.0AFFE0A0
> >Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
> > name="Report.pdf"
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> >Content-Disposition: attachment;
> > filename="Report.pdf"
> >
> >We stopped the 5 e-mails but why would it have triggered on a PDF
file?
> >
> >Also how does the client out the PDF back together???
> >
> >Thanx
> >
> >
> > Goran Jovanovic
> > The LAN Shoppe
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Re: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

2004-06-03 Thread Matt
Goran,
Outlook/Outlook Express allows a sender to split messages over a certain 
size into multiple attachments.  Messages of this type can bypass virus 
scanning and therefore represent a vulnerability.  I have however 
personally determined that because it is so easy to turn on, and because 
I have yet to find any viruses that are currently exploiting this flaw, 
that it is better to leave it off for now rather than comb over my hold 
file looking for such messages and alerting those that are set up for 
this.  Scott does provide a stitch for your Virus.cfg that can turn this 
off with the following:

   BANPARTIALOFF
I don't feel that this is a "set it and forget it" type of setting, so 
use at your own risk, and keep your eyes and ears pealed for exploits in 
the event that a virus does start exploiting the flaw.  Thankfully the 
trickery has gone down since the arrested that German teenager :)

Matt

Goran Jovanovic wrote:
Declude Virus and F-Prot reported 

X-Declude-Virus: Detected [Partial Vulnerability].
This is an e-mail that has been cut into 5 part and it has a PDF
attached to it.
--=_NextPart_000_0019_01C4494C.0AFFE0A0
Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
name="Report.pdf"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename="Report.pdf"
We stopped the 5 e-mails but why would it have triggered on a PDF file?
Also how does the client out the PDF back together???
Thanx
Goran Jovanovic
The LAN Shoppe
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Re: [Declude.Virus] What is "Partial Vulnerability" on a PDF

2004-06-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

Declude Virus and F-Prot reported
X-Declude-Virus: Detected [Partial Vulnerability].
This is an e-mail that has been cut into 5 part and it has a PDF
attached to it.
That's the vulnerability -- a single attachment that has been split into 
multiple E-mails.  This was cool in the early 90's to bypass the 50K size 
limit for E-mails.  But today, it is not necessary, and causes a 
vulnerability (if not blocked, viruses could spread that way).

We stopped the 5 e-mails but why would it have triggered on a PDF file?
Also how does the client out the PDF back together???
A mail client that gets all 5 parts should (if it supposed split E-mails) 
be able to automagically put them back together into one E-mail.

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