Re: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Matuska
I do know this was discussed previously on this list as an issue, but I
can't remember exactly what the solution was.  I do know that it was
mentioned that in most cases this is not an issue, since most viruses now
days seem to autosend without the user intentionally attaching them.  What
versions of declude and imail are you running?  You may want to try a newer
version of declude to see if that changes anything.

Jim Matuska Jr.
Computer Tech II
CCNA
Nez Perce Tribe
Information Systems
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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server


 running the exact same version

 but what i found here is that if i log onto my webmail on the old server i
can send and eicar.com file to my account on another
 domain and it is not being stopped either from the virus scanner or from
the banext in my config file

 but do i send it from my mailclient it works ok

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 Are you running the same versions of Imail and declude on each server, I
 seem to remember something a while back about needing a later version of
 Imail or Declude to catch webmail based virus attachments.

 Jim Matuska Jr.
 Computer Tech II
 CCNA
 Nez Perce Tribe
 Information Systems
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 From: ISPhuset Nordic AS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:41 PM
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server


  Have sett up the server in the exact same with one exception
 
  on the old server  i use f-prot312c
 
  on the new server i user f-prot314a_m
 
  when i run a test with eicar.com on the server localy in webmail
  it slips through when i have i only the on demand scanner installed
 
  copy of config
 
  #
  # Declude Virus configuration file
  #
 
  CODE6F4B90A4
 
  # The  in the LOGFILE option gets replaced with the month/date
 
  LOGFILE E:\virus\vir.log
  LOGLEVELMID
  CONSOLE OFF
 
 
  # SCANFILE is the location of the command-line virus scanner. Note that
it
  # must include the full path.  VIRUSCODE is the code that scanner
returns
 if
  # it finds a virus.
 
  SCANFILEC:\f-prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /NOFLOPPY
 /ARCHIVE /NOBOOT /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt
 
  VIRUSCODE 3
  VIRUSCODE 6
  #VIRUSCODE 8
  REPORTInfection
 
  PRESCAN ON
 
 
  # VIRDIR is the directory to move E-mails with viruses; by default,
  # it is set to 'virus' (\IMail\spool\virus).
 
  VIRDIR E:\virus
 
  # The MAXATONCE option limits the number of AV processes.  For example,
  # MAXATONCE 1 will only allow 1 AV process to run at once (IE for
 licensing
  # purposes).  A value of 0 (or commenting it out) allows unlimited
 processes
  # to run at the same time.
  #MAXATONCE 1
 
  ## The following options allow you to limit scanning to only incoming or
 outgoing
  # E-mail, with v1.13 and higher.  If they are commented out (# in
front
 of them),
  # Declude will scan all E-mail.
 
  #INCOMING ON
  #OUTGOING ON
 
  BANEXT COM
  BANEXT PIF
  BANEXT EXE
  BANEXT SCR
 
  BANNAME message.zip
 
 
 
  when i turn on the real time protector i cant attatch the eicar.com file
 deny it just at is should
 
  Any good ideas here
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server

2003-08-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

do i send an email from webmail opened on a terminal session, and sending 
eicar.com out in the world it will NOT trigger any of the
options witch are in the virus config file f.ex banext

Why ?
That's because in versions of IMail before v8, they set it up so that 
outgoing E-mail from web messaging would not get scanned.  It is extremely 
rare, however, for outgoing web messaging E-mail to contain a virus (it can 
only happen if the sender has a virus on their computer, intentionally 
attaches a file, that happens to contain a virus, and it is an executable 
file).

If you have an on-access virus scanner scanning just the \IMail\spool 
directory (but not the subdirectories!), then the virus will get caught 
when it is uploaded (you'll need to double-check that your version of IMail 
stores the attachments in the \IMail\spool directory while they are being 
uploaded, however).

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server

2003-08-14 Thread Kami Razvan
How about a simple question?

-- have you ran Declude.exe in the new server?

If not simply double click the Declude.exe and test again.

Regards,
Kami

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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server


running the exact same version

but what i found here is that if i log onto my webmail on the old server i
can send and eicar.com file to my account on another domain and it is not
being stopped either from the virus scanner or from the banext in my config
file

but do i send it from my mailclient it works ok

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Matuska
Sent: 12. august 2003 22:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server


Are you running the same versions of Imail and declude on each server, I
seem to remember something a while back about needing a later version of
Imail or Declude to catch webmail based virus attachments.

Jim Matuska Jr.
Computer Tech II
CCNA
Nez Perce Tribe
Information Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: ISPhuset Nordic AS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:41 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server


 Have sett up the server in the exact same with one exception

 on the old server  i use f-prot312c

 on the new server i user f-prot314a_m

 when i run a test with eicar.com on the server localy in webmail it 
 slips through when i have i only the on demand scanner installed

 copy of config

 #
 # Declude Virus configuration file
 #

 CODE6F4B90A4

 # The  in the LOGFILE option gets replaced with the month/date

 LOGFILE E:\virus\vir.log
 LOGLEVELMID
 CONSOLE OFF


 # SCANFILE is the location of the command-line virus scanner. Note 
 that it # must include the full path.  VIRUSCODE is the code that 
 scanner returns
if
 # it finds a virus.

 SCANFILEC:\f-prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /NOFLOPPY
/ARCHIVE /NOBOOT /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt

 VIRUSCODE 3
 VIRUSCODE 6
 #VIRUSCODE 8
 REPORTInfection

 PRESCAN ON


 # VIRDIR is the directory to move E-mails with viruses; by default, # 
 it is set to 'virus' (\IMail\spool\virus).

 VIRDIR E:\virus

 # The MAXATONCE option limits the number of AV processes.  For 
 example, # MAXATONCE 1 will only allow 1 AV process to run at once (IE 
 for
licensing
 # purposes).  A value of 0 (or commenting it out) allows unlimited
processes
 # to run at the same time.
 #MAXATONCE 1

 ## The following options allow you to limit scanning to only incoming 
 or
outgoing
 # E-mail, with v1.13 and higher.  If they are commented out (# in 
 front
of them),
 # Declude will scan all E-mail.

 #INCOMING ON
 #OUTGOING ON

 BANEXT COM
 BANEXT PIF
 BANEXT EXE
 BANEXT SCR

 BANNAME message.zip



 when i turn on the real time protector i cant attatch the eicar.com 
 file
deny it just at is should

 Any good ideas here

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RE: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server

2003-08-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

with the new engine and using f-prot.exe and sending from my outlook 
client i get a virus warning and its ok
but doing the same with fpcmd.exe it get caught of the banext
This sounds like a separate issue -- the command lines for F-Prot.exe and 
fpcmd.exe should be identical *except* that you must not use /NOFLOPPY 
with fpcmd.exe, but you must use it with F-Prot.exe.  If you use 
/NOFLOPPY with fpcmd.exe, it will not work.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server

2003-08-14 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
running the exact same version

but what i found here is that if i log onto my webmail on the old server i can send 
and eicar.com file to my account on another
domain and it is not being stopped either from the virus scanner or from the banext in 
my config file

but do i send it from my mailclient it works ok

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Matuska
Sent: 12. august 2003 22:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server


Are you running the same versions of Imail and declude on each server, I
seem to remember something a while back about needing a later version of
Imail or Declude to catch webmail based virus attachments.

Jim Matuska Jr.
Computer Tech II
CCNA
Nez Perce Tribe
Information Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: ISPhuset Nordic AS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:41 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server


 Have sett up the server in the exact same with one exception

 on the old server  i use f-prot312c

 on the new server i user f-prot314a_m

 when i run a test with eicar.com on the server localy in webmail
 it slips through when i have i only the on demand scanner installed

 copy of config

 #
 # Declude Virus configuration file
 #

 CODE6F4B90A4

 # The  in the LOGFILE option gets replaced with the month/date

 LOGFILE E:\virus\vir.log
 LOGLEVELMID
 CONSOLE OFF


 # SCANFILE is the location of the command-line virus scanner. Note that it
 # must include the full path.  VIRUSCODE is the code that scanner returns
if
 # it finds a virus.

 SCANFILEC:\f-prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /NOFLOPPY
/ARCHIVE /NOBOOT /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt

 VIRUSCODE 3
 VIRUSCODE 6
 #VIRUSCODE 8
 REPORTInfection

 PRESCAN ON


 # VIRDIR is the directory to move E-mails with viruses; by default,
 # it is set to 'virus' (\IMail\spool\virus).

 VIRDIR E:\virus

 # The MAXATONCE option limits the number of AV processes.  For example,
 # MAXATONCE 1 will only allow 1 AV process to run at once (IE for
licensing
 # purposes).  A value of 0 (or commenting it out) allows unlimited
processes
 # to run at the same time.
 #MAXATONCE 1

 ## The following options allow you to limit scanning to only incoming or
outgoing
 # E-mail, with v1.13 and higher.  If they are commented out (# in front
of them),
 # Declude will scan all E-mail.

 #INCOMING ON
 #OUTGOING ON

 BANEXT COM
 BANEXT PIF
 BANEXT EXE
 BANEXT SCR

 BANNAME message.zip



 when i turn on the real time protector i cant attatch the eicar.com file
deny it just at is should

 Any good ideas here

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Re: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Matuska
Are you running the same versions of Imail and declude on each server, I
seem to remember something a while back about needing a later version of
Imail or Declude to catch webmail based virus attachments.

Jim Matuska Jr.
Computer Tech II
CCNA
Nez Perce Tribe
Information Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: ISPhuset Nordic AS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:41 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server


 Have sett up the server in the exact same with one exception

 on the old server  i use f-prot312c

 on the new server i user f-prot314a_m

 when i run a test with eicar.com on the server localy in webmail
 it slips through when i have i only the on demand scanner installed

 copy of config

 #
 # Declude Virus configuration file
 #

 CODE6F4B90A4

 # The  in the LOGFILE option gets replaced with the month/date

 LOGFILE E:\virus\vir.log
 LOGLEVELMID
 CONSOLE OFF


 # SCANFILE is the location of the command-line virus scanner. Note that it
 # must include the full path.  VIRUSCODE is the code that scanner returns
if
 # it finds a virus.

 SCANFILEC:\f-prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /NOFLOPPY
/ARCHIVE /NOBOOT /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt

 VIRUSCODE 3
 VIRUSCODE 6
 #VIRUSCODE 8
 REPORTInfection

 PRESCAN ON


 # VIRDIR is the directory to move E-mails with viruses; by default,
 # it is set to 'virus' (\IMail\spool\virus).

 VIRDIR E:\virus

 # The MAXATONCE option limits the number of AV processes.  For example,
 # MAXATONCE 1 will only allow 1 AV process to run at once (IE for
licensing
 # purposes).  A value of 0 (or commenting it out) allows unlimited
processes
 # to run at the same time.
 #MAXATONCE 1

 ## The following options allow you to limit scanning to only incoming or
outgoing
 # E-mail, with v1.13 and higher.  If they are commented out (# in front
of them),
 # Declude will scan all E-mail.

 #INCOMING ON
 #OUTGOING ON

 BANEXT COM
 BANEXT PIF
 BANEXT EXE
 BANEXT SCR

 BANNAME message.zip



 when i turn on the real time protector i cant attatch the eicar.com file
deny it just at is should

 Any good ideas here

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RE: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server

2003-08-14 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
That fixed it

thanks a lot

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: 12. august 2003 22:47
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server



with the new engine and using f-prot.exe and sending from my outlook 
client i get a virus warning and its ok
but doing the same with fpcmd.exe it get caught of the banext

This sounds like a separate issue -- the command lines for F-Prot.exe and 
fpcmd.exe should be identical *except* that you must not use /NOFLOPPY 
with fpcmd.exe, but you must use it with F-Prot.exe.  If you use 
/NOFLOPPY with fpcmd.exe, it will not work.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server

2003-08-14 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
ahh that explains a lot 

thought for a moment here it was my scanner messing with me

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: 12. august 2003 22:27
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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] problems when testing a new server



do i send an email from webmail opened on a terminal session, and sending 
eicar.com out in the world it will NOT trigger any of the
options witch are in the virus config file f.ex banext

Why ?

That's because in versions of IMail before v8, they set it up so that 
outgoing E-mail from web messaging would not get scanned.  It is extremely 
rare, however, for outgoing web messaging E-mail to contain a virus (it can 
only happen if the sender has a virus on their computer, intentionally 
attaches a file, that happens to contain a virus, and it is an executable 
file).

If you have an on-access virus scanner scanning just the \IMail\spool 
directory (but not the subdirectories!), then the virus will get caught 
when it is uploaded (you'll need to double-check that your version of IMail 
stores the attachments in the \IMail\spool directory while they are being 
uploaded, however).

-Scott
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