Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-06 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Terry,

Sunday, June 5, 2005, 8:14:04 AM, you wrote:

 It took a reboot of both machines to fix the problem. On one I had 288
 process running which fouls everything else up.   Clam is SCANNER2
 
 Any ideas?

TF   What did the runclamscan log report if anything?  What kind of times
TF   are you seeing in it for the actual scanning?

Nothing. Just shows the last virus that was caught right before the
problem:

06-03-2005 23:44:37 0.2030,0.141,0.062 Worm.Mytob.CK 83 D23a50548011c8e81.SMD 
73391
06-04-2005 00:44:08 0.1410,0.078,0.063 Worm.Mytob.BZ 83 D319849a0009e0bb9.SMD 
69975

Scan times look very low, comparable to F-Prot.

TF   The only time I've had anything similar happen had to do with
TF   ownership of the files and folders. It seems to me I may have had to
TF   change the ownership of the virus folder but I don't recall now.

The very first error in the Declude virus log indicates that clam
didn't finish after 60 seconds so Declude is terminating. Then the
other errors about renaming/moving files start showing up. Plus more
timeout errors.

On a side note, during this whole process I had a Sniffer update that
failed to copy to my P:/ Drive. Clam is running on C:\, Spool is
running on O:\ and runclamscan/runclamd are on P:\

The two machines that this happened on are very different. One Win2k
vs. Win2k3, Imail 7.13 vs. Imail 8.15, both Declude 1.82

I can't find anything in the event or application logs that looks bad
around this time either.

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Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-06 Thread David Sullivan

TF   What did the runclamscan log report if anything?  What kind of times
TF   are you seeing in it for the actual scanning?

I do have some weird log lines on one of the machines:

06-04-2005 13:48:35 0.4840,0.015,0.469 HTML.Phishing.Pay-39 65  0
06-04-2005 13:49:02 0.2660,0.031,0.235 Worm.SomeFool.P 64  0
06-04-2005 13:49:06 0.3280,0.046,0.266 Worm.Mytob.CK 62  0
06-04-2005 13:49:07 0.4840,0.047,0.437 Worm.Mytob.CK 105 
De990167cd258.GSC,De99002de00b2b55f.SMD 0
06-04-2005 13:49:20 0.3750,0.079,0.296 Worm.SomeFool.P 64  0
06-04-2005 13:49:26 0.0630,0.031,0.032 Worm.Bagle.AU 62  0
06-04-2005 13:49:59 0.3590,0.125,0.219 Worm.Mytob.BT 62  0


These are about 20 lines before it quits.

Also, I do see on both machines, there are files in my folder on P:\
along with runclamscan and runclamd.

They have names like:

dbeaf2~1_clam.txt
dbeb03~1_clam.txt

There are 57 on one box and 80 on another. Every time I click on of
the files, I get a simple Access Denied error even though ALL clam
processes are stopped and I'm running under a Domain Admin account.

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Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-06 Thread David Sullivan

TF   These exist because the scanner never completed and the files are
TF   owned by SYSTEM.  You'll have to select them - right click - and
TF   change the owner to your Admin account so you can then change the
TF   permissions to delete them.

So, it looks like the genesis of the problem is that clam started
timing out. As I mentioned, a completely separate process that copies
my Sniffer .snf file onto the same drive failed with a could not copy
file error after this whole thing happened. Even though, it could
read/delete a file on this volume.


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Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-06 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Terry,

Monday, June 6, 2005, 3:39:42 PM, you wrote:


 it looks like the genesis of the problem is that clam started
 timing out.

TF   It may be but I haven't been able to force it to happen so far. For
TF   me this is the first instance of this in more than one year.

TF   I am suspicious that it could be a Windows socket issue which is why
TF   I've changed the clamd.conf settings.

Now, I have had socket issues. I'm accepting at a high rate from
IMGate on the front end and delivering to an outbound PF box on the
backend so I tend to have lots of sockets open to one IP.

Forgive me if I'm naive, but what does a local virus scanner have to
do with TCP/IP?

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Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-06 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Terry,


TF   Normally the service establishes a socket - meaning a hole punched
TF   through the OS - to allow such communication to occur. However, for
TF   ClamD in the configuration file there is an option to bind the
TF   service to a specific IP address and a specific port assignment. For
TF   greater security 127.0.0.1 is the default address. But the service
TF   could be bound to another IP address.

Think I get it.

TF   I don't know why this might solve stability problems on some
TF   versions of windows but that's the message in the conf and somethng
TF   I was advised to try from my forum posting.

I have to be out of town starting Wednesday so I'm not doing anything
now, but I'll try it too first thing next week.

TF   Since the error I was seeing in the ClamD log file was an error with
TF   accept() it seemed reasonable to me to try it.

I took ownership of and checked the clamd log file and it looks like I
have the same errors, but on both boxes it took less than 18 hours to
have the problem:

Jun  4 10:46:54 2005 - ERROR: accept() failed: Software caused connection abort
Sat Jun  4 10:46:56 2005 - ERROR: accept() failed: Software caused connection 
abort
Sat Jun  4 10:46:56 2005 - ERROR: accept() failed: Software caused connection 
abort

This is exactly the time this machine blew up.

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Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-04 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Scott,

Friday, June 3, 2005, 10:48:47 PM, you wrote:

SF One last ClamAV comment...

SF I've added the command line switch --max-ratio 0
SF I've had some false positives on some .zip files that forced me to add the
SF switch.

Thanks for the info. I've been running clam now with Terry's
runclamscan since last night on 2 machines. At one point on each
machine started getting these errors in the Declude Virus file:

06/04/2005 14:06:54 Qed820cb43917 ERROR: Virus scanner 2 didn't finish 
after 60 seconds; terminating.
06/04/2005 14:06:54 Qed820cb43917 WARNING: Couldn't remove .vir directory 
o:\spool\Ded820cb43917.vir\: SHARING VIOLATION.
06/04/2005 14:06:54 Qed820cb43917 Likely problem: An on-access scanner is 
interfering; disable or set not to scan subdirectories off of \IMail\spool.

Then, they balloon to ones like this:

06/04/2005 14:07:25 Qed87026a0076c30a ERROR: Could not move virus-infected 
E-mail!  Code: 32 0 o:\spool\Ded87026a0076c30a.SMD 
L:\virustrap\Ded87026a0076c30a.SMD.  Re-trying.
06/04/2005 14:07:26 Qed82035200bac2f1 ERROR: Could not move virus-infected 
E-mail!  Code: 32 0 o:\spool\Ded82035200bac2f1.SMD 
L:\virustrap\Ded82035200bac2f1.SMD.  Re-trying.
06/04/2005 14:07:26 Qed8402890066c2fa ERROR: Could not move virus-infected 
E-mail!  Code: 32 0 o:\spool\Ded8402890066c2fa.SMD 
L:\virustrap\Ded8402890066c2fa.SMD.  Re-trying.

It took a reboot of both machines to fix the problem. On one I had 288
process running which fouls everything else up.   Clam is SCANNER2

Any ideas?
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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-04 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
Just out of curiosity, what declude version are you using? I have a related
problem with my second scanner (bitdefender) and I am using declude beta. I
am testing things now going back to the last non beta declude version 2.06

Luis

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sullivan
 Sent: Sábado, 04 de Junio de 2005 01:18 p.m.
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner
 
 Hello Scott,
 
 Friday, June 3, 2005, 10:48:47 PM, you wrote:
 
 SF One last ClamAV comment...
 
 SF I've added the command line switch --max-ratio 0
 SF I've had some false positives on some .zip files that forced me to add
 the
 SF switch.
 
 Thanks for the info. I've been running clam now with Terry's
 runclamscan since last night on 2 machines. At one point on each
 machine started getting these errors in the Declude Virus file:
 
 06/04/2005 14:06:54 Qed820cb43917 ERROR: Virus scanner 2 didn't finish
 after 60 seconds; terminating.
 06/04/2005 14:06:54 Qed820cb43917 WARNING: Couldn't remove .vir
 directory o:\spool\Ded820cb43917.vir\: SHARING VIOLATION.
 06/04/2005 14:06:54 Qed820cb43917 Likely problem: An on-access scanner
 is interfering; disable or set not to scan subdirectories off of
 \IMail\spool.
 
 Then, they balloon to ones like this:
 
 06/04/2005 14:07:25 Qed87026a0076c30a ERROR: Could not move virus-infected
 E-mail!  Code: 32 0 o:\spool\Ded87026a0076c30a.SMD
 L:\virustrap\Ded87026a0076c30a.SMD.  Re-trying.
 06/04/2005 14:07:26 Qed82035200bac2f1 ERROR: Could not move virus-infected
 E-mail!  Code: 32 0 o:\spool\Ded82035200bac2f1.SMD
 L:\virustrap\Ded82035200bac2f1.SMD.  Re-trying.
 06/04/2005 14:07:26 Qed8402890066c2fa ERROR: Could not move virus-infected
 E-mail!  Code: 32 0 o:\spool\Ded8402890066c2fa.SMD
 L:\virustrap\Ded8402890066c2fa.SMD.  Re-trying.
 
 It took a reboot of both machines to fix the problem. On one I had 288
 process running which fouls everything else up.   Clam is SCANNER2
 
 Any ideas?
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Re: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-04 Thread Scott Fisher

I also use Terry's runclamscan with no issues.

I have had rare email melt downs when I was running runclamd. I could never 
pin it firmly on anything. So I stopped the runclamd to see how it handles.


- Original Message - 
From: David Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 1:18 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner



Hello Scott,

Friday, June 3, 2005, 10:48:47 PM, you wrote:

SF One last ClamAV comment...

SF I've added the command line switch --max-ratio 0
SF I've had some false positives on some .zip files that forced me to add 
the

SF switch.

Thanks for the info. I've been running clam now with Terry's
runclamscan since last night on 2 machines. At one point on each
machine started getting these errors in the Declude Virus file:

06/04/2005 14:06:54 Qed820cb43917 ERROR: Virus scanner 2 didn't finish 
after 60 seconds; terminating.
06/04/2005 14:06:54 Qed820cb43917 WARNING: Couldn't remove .vir 
directory o:\spool\Ded820cb43917.vir\: SHARING VIOLATION.
06/04/2005 14:06:54 Qed820cb43917 Likely problem: An on-access scanner 
is interfering; disable or set not to scan subdirectories off of 
\IMail\spool.


Then, they balloon to ones like this:

06/04/2005 14:07:25 Qed87026a0076c30a ERROR: Could not move virus-infected 
E-mail!  Code: 32 0 o:\spool\Ded87026a0076c30a.SMD 
L:\virustrap\Ded87026a0076c30a.SMD.  Re-trying.
06/04/2005 14:07:26 Qed82035200bac2f1 ERROR: Could not move virus-infected 
E-mail!  Code: 32 0 o:\spool\Ded82035200bac2f1.SMD 
L:\virustrap\Ded82035200bac2f1.SMD.  Re-trying.
06/04/2005 14:07:26 Qed8402890066c2fa ERROR: Could not move virus-infected 
E-mail!  Code: 32 0 o:\spool\Ded8402890066c2fa.SMD 
L:\virustrap\Ded8402890066c2fa.SMD.  Re-trying.


It took a reboot of both machines to fix the problem. On one I had 288
process running which fouls everything else up.   Clam is SCANNER2

Any ideas?
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Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-03 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Terry,

TF ClamAV -
TF http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32/index.php

TF Get my utilities: runclamd, runclamdscan
TF http://www.smartbusiness.com/imail/declude/

TF Set up a scheduled task to periodically run freshclam to keep the
TF database update.

TF Works extremely well for us.

Thanks, I'll give it a try.


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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-03 Thread John Carter
I use ClamAV (with Runclamscan/Runclamd) as my second scanner and it works
great.  The only downside is it is a resource hog (but still worth it.) If
and when you move to AV/JM 2.0.6.16, consider using the new directive
EXITSCANONVIRUSDETECT.  It has helped.  

John 

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Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

Hello Terry,

TF ClamAV -
TF http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32/index.php

TF Get my utilities: runclamd, runclamdscan 
TF http://www.smartbusiness.com/imail/declude/

TF Set up a scheduled task to periodically run freshclam to keep the 
TF database update.

TF Works extremely well for us.

Thanks, I'll give it a try.


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Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-03 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Terry,

Friday, June 3, 2005, 3:26:33 PM, you wrote:


 How can I figure out if freshclam is grabbing the latest defs?

TF I set up a scheduled task update_clamav to run every 2 hours or so:

TF start in: c:\clamav-devel\bin\
TF run: freshclam.exe --quiet -l c:\clamav-devel\log\freshclam.log

Works like a charm.

TF Then I can check the freshclam.log file.

Looks good.

 I have Rundclamd running as a service under LocalSystem. Should I
 set the startup type to Automatic or leave it at Manual?

TF   Mine is set to automatic.

Done

Now have clam setup as Scanner2. Am I to assume that anything showing
up in the runclamscan.log is something that got by Fprot?

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Re: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-03 Thread Scott Fisher
P.S. You can schedule freshclam often because it makes a DNS call to 
determine if there is a new version of the database, it will only download 
if that DNS result tells it to.

Very efficient. I schedule freshclam every 15 minutes.

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Hello Terry,

TF ClamAV -
TF http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32/index.php

TF Get my utilities: runclamd, runclamdscan
TF http://www.smartbusiness.com/imail/declude/

TF Set up a scheduled task to periodically run freshclam to keep the
TF database update.

TF Works extremely well for us.

Thanks, I'll give it a try.


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Re: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Second Scanner

2005-06-03 Thread Scott Fisher

One other ClamAV tip.
If you can afford the performance hit and can use PRESCAN OFF, clamav will 
be a very effective Phish blocker.


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Hello Terry,

Friday, June 3, 2005, 3:26:33 PM, you wrote:



How can I figure out if freshclam is grabbing the latest defs?


TF I set up a scheduled task update_clamav to run every 2 hours or so:

TF start in: c:\clamav-devel\bin\
TF run: freshclam.exe --quiet -l c:\clamav-devel\log\freshclam.log

Works like a charm.

TF Then I can check the freshclam.log file.

Looks good.


I have Rundclamd running as a service under LocalSystem. Should I
set the startup type to Automatic or leave it at Manual?


TF   Mine is set to automatic.

Done

Now have clam setup as Scanner2. Am I to assume that anything showing
up in the runclamscan.log is something that got by Fprot?

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