[DUG]: Where do you want to go if Microsoft split?

2000-06-09 Thread Terry Johnson

OS: Windows NT or Linux?

My feeling is that in the medium term Linux will become dominant and MS
will fizzle. I think the dynamics of an empire dictate the end of the
empire - and this one stopped growing a while back. This is irrespective of
the DoJ verdict, the end of MS is determined first by stagnation of growth.

Linux, on the other hand, is not an empire, and consequently is not subject
to the same boom/bust cycle. It also appears to be a more secure and stable
way to go - but that is a secondary consideration. 

So, I'm investing my time in learning Linux, and am hanging out for Kylix.
Of course that's just my opinion.

Terry
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RE: [DUG]: Where do you want to go if Microsoft split?

2000-06-09 Thread Laurence Bevan

OS: Windows NT or Linux?

For those of us old enough to be working in the 80's, Unix was taking the
world by storm! Open source (except the good stuff which you had to pay for
anyway), non-proprietary (as long as you didn't want to do anything useful),
binary compatible (although we never managed to successfully port from one
version to another without a reasonable amount of rewrite), vendor
independent (as long as your OS vendor was prepared to support every
peripheral ever made).

Linux IS Unix with a fancy front end (we had those in the 80's as well). At
the end of the day, you can have the best OS in the world but if there isn't
the application support, only the dedicated techos will stick with it (take
a look at BeOS which is far better than Linux but you can't do anything with
it). It will NEVER make its mark on the desktop (just try getting a CD-ROM
or scanner you bought from Dick Smith's to work on your Linux PC), but it
will have a place in the server market although you will have to employ
specialist Linux people to administer it which will put a lot of small
businesses off. The Linux vendors out there are falling into the same trap
as Unix vendors did, every vendor had their own flavour and enhancements.

NT got where it is today because there is only one standard, Microsoft's,
like it or not. It works (most of the time g) and has the application
support. They have addressed the reliability issues in Win2000 and stopped
trying to support software companies/developers who write crap software.
Whatever happens to Microsoft, NT will survive and we'll have to keep
writing software for it. Learning Unix may be worthwhile in the short term,
but be prepared to learn another flavour of it in 10 years time. The
industry has a funny way of going around in circles.

Laurence Bevan

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Re: [DUG]: Where do you want to go if Microsoft split?

2000-06-07 Thread Mark Derricutt

On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OS: Windows NT or Linux?
 Database: MS SQL Server or Oracle, Sybase, Interbase?
 Service: DCOM or CORBA?

I think regardless of the split Linux with Interbase/Oracle/PostgreSQL
with Corba.  I think when IB6 is fully done I'll dump PostgreSQL in favor
of it (apart from for my hosted websites which use PostgreSQL).

Awhile ago someone mentioned an ADO provider for IB, does anyone have any
urls for it as I havn't been able to find any.

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Re: [DUG]: Where do you want to go if Microsoft split?

2000-06-07 Thread Neven MacEwan

Mark

What state is IB6 at? We are using Postgress but IB6 would be interesting
as I feel there will be better support for it (my case tool don't do
postgress)

  OS: Windows NT or Linux?
Both
  Database: MS SQL Server or Oracle, Sybase, Interbase?
At Least 2
  Service: DCOM or CORBA?
Don't know - but COM is pretty common


Regards
Neven

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 On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OS: Windows NT or Linux?
  Database: MS SQL Server or Oracle, Sybase, Interbase?
  Service: DCOM or CORBA?

 I think regardless of the split Linux with Interbase/Oracle/PostgreSQL
 with Corba.  I think when IB6 is fully done I'll dump PostgreSQL in favor
 of it (apart from for my hosted websites which use PostgreSQL).

 Awhile ago someone mentioned an ADO provider for IB, does anyone have any
 urls for it as I havn't been able to find any.

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Re: [DUG]: Where do you want to go if Microsoft split?

2000-06-07 Thread Mark Derricutt

On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Neven MacEwan wrote:

 What state is IB6 at? We are using Postgress but IB6 would be interesting
 as I feel there will be better support for it (my case tool don't do
 postgress)

I'm not actually sure the state of IB6 as I havn't realy followed it much,
however PostgreSQl 7 came out awhile back (aint tried it yet thou).

Mark

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