Re: [libreoffice-design] Hide ruler by default?

2011-10-13 Thread Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai
I am using ruler in Writer and also in Imress and Draw. But let's hear
the UI gurus ;o)

KAMI

2011-10-13 09:41 keltezéssel, Glenn de Groot írta:
 Hello people,
 yesterday I had a pretty good idea IMHO.I would like to see the ruler hidden 
 by default in Libre Office 3.5.I know nobody who uses the ruler (on any 
 office application), and I don´t use it either.Microsoft Office, Google Docs 
 and I believe there are others, hide the ruler by default.Try it, go to View 
 and deselect the ruler, it makes Libre Office a lot simpler.People who do 
 need the ruler probably know where to find it.
 Thoughts?
 -Glenn de Groot
 



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Re: [libreoffice-design] Hide ruler by default?

2011-10-13 Thread Andrew Pullins
I never use the rulers, see no need for them in a word processor, or in
a presentation. I can not speak for Mirek now but on his blog he talks about
the Citrus UI hiding them by default.  but I can say that in his UI mock
ups there are no rulers. here is a link to his blog where he talks about it
http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/citrus-tabs/

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:41 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/10/13 Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com

 
  Hello people,
  yesterday I had a pretty good idea IMHO.I would like to see the ruler
  hidden by default in Libre Office 3.5.I know nobody who uses the ruler
 (on
  any office application), and I don´t use it either.Microsoft Office,
 Google
  Docs and I believe there are others, hide the ruler by default.Try it, go
 to
  View and deselect the ruler, it makes Libre Office a lot simpler.People
 who
  do need the ruler probably know where to find it.
  Thoughts?
  -Glenn de Groot
 
 
 Rulers are useful for direct formatting, I think. Because I never use
 direct
 formatting I always turn off rulers... ;)
 There was a discussion (or more precisely, an attempt to start a
 discussion) about default values on LibO a couple of months ago. Maybe we
 need to restart it.
 Cheers
 Ricardo

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Hide ruler by default?

2011-10-13 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
Hy

Personnaly, I always used Rulers (On word 2003, OOo, SYmphony or LibO), to
place horizontally text or headers/footers. But I think it's not the case of
the majority .

Then, if rulers have to be kept, I think we should try to find a way to have
them more discrete, because they are not very sexy, they take a big place
and are not used a lot. It should really be investigated what do you think ?

Kévin

PS : Scuse, I've speak a horrible English, I know it.

2011/10/13 Andrew Pullins android2...@gmail.com

 I never use the rulers, see no need for them in a word processor, or in
 a presentation. I can not speak for Mirek now but on his blog he talks
 about
 the Citrus UI hiding them by default.  but I can say that in his UI mock
 ups there are no rulers. here is a link to his blog where he talks about it
 http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/citrus-tabs/

 On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:41 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

  2011/10/13 Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
 
  
   Hello people,
   yesterday I had a pretty good idea IMHO.I would like to see the ruler
   hidden by default in Libre Office 3.5.I know nobody who uses the ruler
  (on
   any office application), and I don´t use it either.Microsoft Office,
  Google
   Docs and I believe there are others, hide the ruler by default.Try it,
 go
  to
   View and deselect the ruler, it makes Libre Office a lot simpler.People
  who
   do need the ruler probably know where to find it.
   Thoughts?
   -Glenn de Groot
  
  
  Rulers are useful for direct formatting, I think. Because I never use
  direct
  formatting I always turn off rulers... ;)
  There was a discussion (or more precisely, an attempt to start a
  discussion) about default values on LibO a couple of months ago. Maybe
 we
  need to restart it.
  Cheers
  Ricardo
 
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RE: [libreoffice-design] Hide ruler by default?

2011-10-13 Thread Evan Janusziewicz
Hi,

I too think the LibO should hide rulers by default. Just add some obvious
button to show the ruler or do some sort of auto-hide animation. 

Evan
-Original Message-
From: Kévin PEIGNOT [mailto:peignot.ke...@kpeignot.fr] 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:24 PM
To: design@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Hide ruler by default?

Hy

Personnaly, I always used Rulers (On word 2003, OOo, SYmphony or LibO), to
place horizontally text or headers/footers. But I think it's not the case of
the majority .

Then, if rulers have to be kept, I think we should try to find a way to have
them more discrete, because they are not very sexy, they take a big place
and are not used a lot. It should really be investigated what do you think ?

Kévin

PS : Scuse, I've speak a horrible English, I know it.

2011/10/13 Andrew Pullins android2...@gmail.com

 I never use the rulers, see no need for them in a word processor, or 
 in a presentation. I can not speak for Mirek now but on his blog he 
 talks about the Citrus UI hiding them by default.  but I can say 
 that in his UI mock ups there are no rulers. here is a link to his 
 blog where he talks about it 
 http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/citrus-tabs/

 On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:41 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

  2011/10/13 Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
 
  
   Hello people,
   yesterday I had a pretty good idea IMHO.I would like to see the 
   ruler hidden by default in Libre Office 3.5.I know nobody who uses 
   the ruler
  (on
   any office application), and I don´t use it either.Microsoft 
   Office,
  Google
   Docs and I believe there are others, hide the ruler by default.Try 
   it,
 go
  to
   View and deselect the ruler, it makes Libre Office a lot 
   simpler.People
  who
   do need the ruler probably know where to find it.
   Thoughts?
   -Glenn de Groot
  
  
  Rulers are useful for direct formatting, I think. Because I never 
  use direct formatting I always turn off rulers... ;) There was a 
  discussion (or more precisely, an attempt to start a
  discussion) about default values on LibO a couple of months ago. 
  Maybe
 we
  need to restart it.
  Cheers
  Ricardo
 
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