Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Controversial topics for the start center

[Jean-Francois Nifenecker]

Le 25/11/2013 23:12, V Stuart Foote a écrit :
> 
> I've added your issue to the Open Problems issue on the  Start Center Design
> wiki  
> .  Please comment as needed there.
> 

Thanks Stuart!

I wanted to add comments but that *§?&# wiki is evil: when saving,
there's a question that appears at the top and I didn't realize that
immediately. Now I'm stuck for a while as the system blocks new saving
attemps as potential spam :(
On a UI pov, this thing is badly designed, imo: the poster clicks on
"Save" at the bottom of the page, the question appears at the top and is
not made especially visible. It's very easy to overlook it and insist at
saving as I did too many times (how many will trigger the blocking is
untold). 2nd: the blocking duration is not shown and the user wonders
how long s-he'll have to wait until s-he can re-post.
Frustrating.

I wanted to add that to the 2nd column:
8< ---
Pros: (1) the average user can associate a module name (which s-he knows
well; eg: Calc) and a document type (which s-he knows less often; eg:
Spreadsheet); (2) the labels are consistent with the OS start menu
LibreOffice entries.
Cons: longer text.
--- >8

Thanks again,
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[libreoffice-design] Re: Controversial topics for the start center

[V Stuart Foote]

Jean-Francois,

I've added your issue to the Open Problems issue on the  Start Center Design
wiki  
.  Please comment as needed there.

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-design] Controversial topics for the start center

[Jean-Francois Nifenecker]

Le 25/11/2013 20:05, Laurent Lyaudet a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> We just added a section Open Problems to the wiki for the start center:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Start_Center
> So far we have 3 topics discussed:
> - Sidebar positioning
> - Icons or thumbnails
> - Tabs with file type pickers
> 
> Please add to the wiki all pros and cons you can think about for these
> topics.
> We'll try to have definitive resolutions next week at the IRC chat.
> 

to me, there's one more important topic wrt the start centre: naming the
captions. ASFAICT (from my daily work with 400+ in-house users), people
don't understand why the tabs or captions are labelled "Spreadsheet",
"Presentation", "Drawing" and so on. The users I'm talking about have a
hard time figuring a "Spreadsheet" is the type of document made using Calc.

Hence my suggestion: don't use such words as above and prefer the module
names. This is more explicit to the average John Doe and has the pro
that it is consistent with the OS start menu option names.

WRT Writer entry, named as "Document", I find that strange. As any file
is actually a document, the word "Text" would be much better, IMO. Of
course, the previous paragraph suggests that "Writer" is the word to
retain :)
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[libreoffice-design] Controversial topics for the start center

[Laurent Lyaudet]

Hi,

We just added a section Open Problems to the wiki for the start center:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Start_Center
So far we have 3 topics discussed:
- Sidebar positioning
- Icons or thumbnails
- Tabs with file type pickers

Please add to the wiki all pros and cons you can think about for these 
topics.

We'll try to have definitive resolutions next week at the IRC chat.

Best regards,
   Laurent Lyaudet

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[libreoffice-design] Community Section uploaded

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

I have uploaded the sketches and specs of the Community/Get Involved
section on the OwnCloud instance
(http://owncloud.documentfoundation.org , pick the Common folder then
->Website -> Website Redesign 2013)

Please review this community section and let me know if you feel
something is missing.

Thanks!

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