Re: [libreoffice-design] new branding for 5.0: progress bar missing
Hi, Sorry for the noise, after a complete rebuild the progress bar in the splash-screen is visible again. Best regards. JBF Le 10/07/2015 06:21, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit : Hi Kendy, I tested the new branding (I like it :-) ) in LO 5.0 (Version: 5.0.0.2.0+ Build ID: 41ddfa59870f85e8676ddc0f00228f853d820dc5) and the master (Version: 5.1.0.0.alpha1+ Build ID: 2aefb89b299e7ebdca5bb35aa4e9059e59805715) In the master, the progress bar in the splash-screen is visible (it is black). I do not see it in LO 5.0 although the splash-screen stays on the screen for 2 - 3 seconds. Is it intended? Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. Disclaimer: my Internet Provider being located in France, each of our exchanges over Internet will be scanned by French spying services. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving printing UX
Hi, Le 09/07/2015 00:44, Jay Philips a écrit : [...] I also couldnt find an option in the Options dialog to tell LO to use the OS's print dialog. Until the version 4.3 this option was under Tools Options LibreOffice General. If you unchecked Use LibreOffice dialogs under Print dialogs then you used OS dialogs. I do not know why this option has been removed from options dialog in LO 4.4. It is still available in expert configuration, search UseSystemPrintDialog which is set to false by default. Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. Disclaimer: my Internet Provider being located in France, each of our exchanges over Internet will be scanned by French spying services. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] new branding for 5.0: progress bar missing
Hi Kendy, I tested the new branding (I like it :-) ) in LO 5.0 (Version: 5.0.0.2.0+ Build ID: 41ddfa59870f85e8676ddc0f00228f853d820dc5) and the master (Version: 5.1.0.0.alpha1+ Build ID: 2aefb89b299e7ebdca5bb35aa4e9059e59805715) In the master, the progress bar in the splash-screen is visible (it is black). I do not see it in LO 5.0 although the splash-screen stays on the screen for 2 - 3 seconds. Is it intended? Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. Disclaimer: my Internet Provider being located in France, each of our exchanges over Internet will be scanned by French spying services. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving Impress' UX
Hi, [Please keep in mind that English is not my native language] Le 11/06/2015 16:59, Joel Madero a écrit : On 06/10/2015 11:18 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: [...] And you will lost the complete history of the document. That is a very important information and it is a bad idea to rely on Google to keep the memory of the LibreOffice community. The data of the LibreOffice project must be stored on TDF servers not elsewhere. The working in progress documents are project data and must be stored on TDF servers. While I fully respect your opinion - this last statement is just not correct. It is very surprising for me when an organization, working on editing and managing documents, does not consider its own documents, which are its memory, important enough to be kept in its own repositories. And document history is as important as the final document. For example document history will show why or if some choice not present in the final document, has been discussed and rejected during the document development. Having the document history prevents to discuss again and again the same things. [...] your (and others) phobia of google products. The problem is not only Google, it would be the same with any comparable external supplier. The important word is external, not Google. That said, the doers get to decide. Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. Disclaimer: my Internet Provider being located in France, each of our exchanges over Internet will be scanned by French spying services. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving Impress' UX
Hi Jay, all, Le 10/06/2015 22:39, Jay Philips a écrit : [...] Wikis are not WYSIWYG and hard to edit. You cant format a wiki similar to a document. You can use the Mediawiki extension to write your document in LibreOffice and push it to the wiki. You dont have commenting and track changes. Error: with a wiki you have a complete history of each change since the creation of the document. Additionally you have a discussion page to comment. Likely when the document is fully finished, it would be published to the wiki, similar to how we are doing with the HIG. And you will lost the complete history of the document. That is a very important information and it is a bad idea to rely on Google to keep the memory of the LibreOffice community. The data of the LibreOffice project must be stored on TDF servers not elsewhere. The working in progress documents are project data and must be stored on TDF servers. Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. Disclaimer: my Internet Provider being located in France, each of our exchanges over Internet will be scanned by French spying services. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving Impress' UX
Hi, Le 08/06/2015 00:55, Jay Philips a écrit : Hi All, I'm currently working on a document on how we can improve Impress' UX, so all are welcome to give their input. I am interested but I refuse to use Google Docs to contribute to LibreOffice project. So, no input from me. If you don't want use Etherpad, why don't you use the wiki ? Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. Disclaimer: my Internet Provider being located in France, each of our exchanges over Internet will be scanned by French spying services. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Collecting usage data
Hi Kendy, Le 08/10/2014 21:12, Jan Holesovsky a écrit : Hi, At the Hangout today, I told that I hacked up a way in LibreOffice how to collect usage data. It's an early prototype, even to turn it on, you have to compile; but I (or Samuel, if he can find some time?) plan to do a user configuration to turn it on/off, and save it to the user's profile. If the time permits, even sending to some server might be possible at some stage (but cannot promise that). I am sure you did consider the privacy side of the question. I think we must do that very careffuly because we do not want to be accused to install a keylogger in LibreOffice as MS did in the technical preview of Windows-10. I think that the user should be able to check if the log contains any personal information and remove all data he does not want to share with TDF. Additionally sending the data to TDF should be a voluntary action from the user, for example through a file attached to a mail automatically composed by LO but manually sent by the user. Best regards. JBF, paranoid with privacy questions :-) -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IMPORTANT: Changing our workflow
Hi, Le 28/07/2014 23:11, Mirek M. a écrit : Hi guys, On our last IRC chat [1], we've decided to try out a different way of working for a month, until the next chat. One of the major changes we've decided on is to abandon this mailing list (as a trial) and move our conversations to Redmine. Is there a bridge between the Redmine forums and that mailing-list so that it will be possible to read the forum offline ? Is there another bridge between Redmine and our Nabble forums ? Ok, I found the atom RSS flux but it is very hard to follow a discussion on a forum. No discussion tree, only a time based organization, you do not know to what message the message you are reading is responding. Best regards. JBF who continues to think that forum is a very poor and bad communication tool. -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IMPORTANT: Changing our workflow
Le 04/09/2014 10:56, Mirek M. a écrit : [...] You can get forum activity sent to your e-mail: log into Redmine, click Watch on the forums page, and make sure that, in your Account settings, you have e-mail notifications for things you watch set. You can't really work with that, it is just an alert by mail. The message is send by The Document Foundation Redmine gene...@redmine.documentfoundation.org, that is not a useful information to follow a discussion. We don't want to forward things to the mailing list, though, because we want the conversations to happen in one place and don't want people to reply on the list. Hmm, looks like as if you wanted to keep discussions closed and private. Ok, it will be easier to make decisions. Not sure that this way you can make decisions useful for LibreOffice and its users. What do you plan to make this forum discoverable ? We're getting rid of the list. Not sure if design team is legitimate to decide that. What do you plan to keep the list archive? [...] JBF who continues to think that forum is a very poor and bad communication tool. You should try it. :) Instead of suggesting that I talk without knowing what I am talking about, you should try to answer to my arguments against the use of forums. Did you ever try a decent mail client? If you use a webmail, I can understand why you prefer the forums. But the problem is not the use of mailing-lists, it is how you manage your mails. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IMPORTANT: Changing our workflow
Hi, Le 04/09/2014 14:53, Dennis Roczek a écrit : [...] well redmine is adding it's own headers. so e.g. you can filter the mails by using a filter filtering on the x-redmine-project header tag X-Redmine-Project: nlc-de (this example is for the german language project on redmine) Yes, you can use this header to arrange the mails in different folders. But you still can't know who wrote the message without opening it. Ok, there is also the header x-Redmine-Sender but I can't use it as column header in Thunderbird. Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IMPORTANT: Changing our workflow
Hi Sophie, Le 04/09/2014 14:33, Sophie Gautier a écrit : [...] Lot of work is going on Redmine and even the marketing team is thinking about a setting a similar workflow, so it's not private or separate, if a team find it convenient to their worflow, it's only a tool. I agree, the problem is not the use of Redmine, the problem is removing the mailing-list and having a forum as unique discussion room. Forum only is a no-go for me. Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Navigation buttons in 4.3.x
Hi Sophie, Le 28/04/2014 14:25, Sophie a écrit : Hi all, I'm testing the Navigation button in the Find bar and have some questions: Would it be possible to add the navigation labels that were associated with the elements in the toolbar. Currently it shows next element, previous element, when it was the selected one. Indeed, that would be better. Also, is it wanted that the Navigator opens at the same time behind the toolbar? If it is wanted, it is a bad idea. On my Ubuntu with 4 workspaces, that has the effect to switch the view to another workspace because the Navigator window is moved between two workspaces. I think the Navigator should remember its previous position on the screen. Last, could somebody confirm that the Table icon is missing in the navigation toolbar? I confirm. Best regards JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] RE: The Sidebar Problem
Hello Charles, Le 22/03/2014 11:15, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello Jean-Baptiste, [...] I see; but do you need to activate the experimental features to have in in Writer? For 4.2, no. Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] RE: The Sidebar Problem
Hi Charles, Le 21/03/2014 13:55, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello Tim, I am sorry but I just realized that I forgot to mention thar in the 4.1.x the sidebar could only be activated as part of the experimental features. I believe it is still experimental in the 4.2.x branch. In other words you must activate the experimental features beforehand in order to access tje sidebar. Can someone confirm the sidebar is still experimental in the fresh branch please? On my own build of LibreOffice 4.2, I do not need to activate experimental functions to enable the sidebar. Sidebar is enabled by default for Impress. In version 4.1 you need to first check Enable experimental sidebar (on restart) in Tools Options LibreOffice Advanced That done you can hide or show the sidebar using menu View Sidebar Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem
Hi, Le 20/03/2014 17:22, Mattias Põldaru a écrit : 07.02.2014 20:41, Jean-Baptiste Faure kirjutas: I think it is not a good idea because with a single place where to look for commands you are sure that an important part of the users will not be able to find these commands easily. On the contrary, if you design several ways to access to the commands, then you multiply the chances for each user to find them and to memorize where they are in order to find them quicker next time. Following is mostly off-topic, feel free to ignore if you are not into literature. Jean, you made me giggle :) Let me explain what is wrong with your picture with an analogy. Why analogy? Whe discuss about software, and your analogy is a false model of the software. In your analogy there is chance, no chance in software menus, toolbar, etc. If you find a way to do something one time, you are sure that you can redo the same thing this way. Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Start Center Niggles
Le 06/12/2013 01:12, Michel Renon a écrit : Hi, [...] IMHO, it's a bad decision : it clearly means that the design is incomplete. And it's not during the Beta phase that such work can be started. My suggestion is to postpone the start center for the 4.3 release. I disagree, if we wait that the StartCenter is perfect, it will never be released. Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2
Hi all, Le 14/10/2013 23:01, Mateusz Zasuwik a écrit : Hey Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is here any guy from UX Team? My friend is professional designer and when I showed him new LibreOffice, he ask what is purpose of these small icons? Please reject this awful interface and do something more attractive and intuitive! I do not dislike the current global design of the StartCenter. I think it will be usable if several technical and UX problems are solved: 1/ keyboard navigation through recent used files should be easier: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70449 2/ make the module icons more visible and understandable, give them a bigger size: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70460 3/ repair the thumbnails generator in the master : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70428 Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: Experimental new LibreOffice UI
Hi, Le 06/04/2013 01:30, Keith Curtis a écrit : Hi all; I've written a proposal for a new experimental UI for LibreOffice Writer: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:KeithCu I am not sure to understand well, but it seems to me that you removed the Navigator, Styles and Formatting and the status bar. If I am not missing something, that is not only a new design, it is a new workflow for the end-users. Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
