[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@mac_v : don't worry, I was just kidding... :) What I mean is even if all of us on Launchpad are some kind of power users, some of us are more prone to say things like : I'm a grown up person and don't want to be treated by this machine like an imbecile by continually being reminded of the same damn thing each and every time. ... and some others tell thinks like : I did loose some files just because I hit the delete key accidentally(reads: *without even noticing I did*). How useful is the trashbin when it contains things that you are not even aware are inside? You empty your trashbin and voila, your data are gone! This is incredible. Two kinds of users, but a single OS to make them happy... :) -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@all : this is fun stuff for an HMI designer/UX specialist... Indeed, an excellent example case for a UX course : how to make a choice between all these point of view, and make everyone happy ? IMHO, there's no way to make everyone happy, as people have antinomic opinions. It seems we have 3 classes of users, here : - power users who claim they master the machine, and don't want to be bothered by confirmation popup when they pushed the Del key - I'm responsible and educated, I know what I do - power users who recognize they may make mistakes, sometimes - I'm human, error is human, I want to be protected - lambda users who come from other horizons , who install a vanilla Karmic - I just want a computer that runs ok. IMHO, the best compromise for these profiles is to have confirmation before moving to trash and confirmation before emptying the trash = on, by default, at first install + make it customizable in some configuration menu, for masters of the machine. This will be consistent for both lambda users (who are used to be asked for confirmation, notably on Windows), power users who may make mistakes, and masters of the machine are skilled enough to go and uncheck the checbox if they don't want to be asked for confirmation... BTW : I *know* speaking about Windows as a reference sounds annoying/exasperating to some of you. But as a UX specialist, I have to say something : eventhough standards are not everything, in HMI design, they are really helpful. Making things in a different way is great, when there's a good reason to do so, and no reason to stick to the standard. But it appears that in our case, the presence of a confirmation popup is argued : there are pros and cons. In that context, sticking to the standard + making things customizable seems to be a good approach. For a lot of people, Windows is the reference : most of them started using computers with Windows, and Windows runs 95% of computers. Beside of this, there are well known usability rules in HMI design (e.g. Bastien Scapin principles) that say errors shall be managed, and notably by protecting the user against errors he may perform. Forgetting this kind of rules in HundredPapers (a project which aims at improving Ubuntu's usability...) would appear as counter-productive. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 23293] Re: Nautilus windows should close on unmount
+1 on Sebastien as well. What about my suggestion ? (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/23293/comments/20) -- Nautilus windows should close on unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23293 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 389926] Re: Nautilus browser's pathbar doesn't display the entire path, even when it can
@Sebastien : the screenshot behaviour seems a design decision and not a bug True, but as we speak about usability issues, not only technical bugs are in the scope... users usually don't care about things out of their directory and showing those by default would be confusing Maybe. Or maybe not. We could also say Users usually like to know where they are when navigating, and showing them they are in the home directory, itself located at the root of the filesystem would help a lot... In fact only user tests could really answer. But as far as I am concerned, i'd prefer to see the full path in the breadcrumb. -- Nautilus browser's pathbar doesn't display the entire path, even when it can https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/389926 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 389926] Re: Nautilus browser's pathbar doesn't display the entire path, even when it can
Ivanka, what do you think ? -- Nautilus browser's pathbar doesn't display the entire path, even when it can https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/389926 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 382703] Re: Home Folder has 3 different names
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just a test... Michael Rooney a écrit : On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Christian Kujau wrote: So, Ivanka: +1 on the short username! I also prefer this solution, glad to hear it is the one being considered. The user is very likely to understand and recognize their own username and it doesn't need to be translated. Plus it will be consistent with the actual directory structure of /home/username! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpD4aQACgkQKPYCdhn2v2wjBQCghMQSdFKZLq24Wa+B3y5QLNJj sqUAnA32f14BwG5IjOoaVxhuBbFkeOAg =M8Ue -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Home Folder has 3 different names https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/382703 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 23293] Re: Nautilus windows should close on unmount
Hello, Except maybe in contexts where you have a lot of windows, and you have to search among your taskbar to ensure none of your windows is the one corresponding to the volume you just unmounted... Martin Lettner a écrit : confirming this. would be just nice if nautilus would close the tab (or window if there is only that one tab) when the media is unmountet. also the user would have a definite feedback that the media was safely removed from the system! just think about a very common scenario: - plug in a usb memory drive - do stuff with it - click remove/unmount somewhere - after some seconds the file manager window disappears so also the memory drive can be removed very intuitive i think... was this reported upstream already? -- Nautilus windows should close on unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23293 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 391194] Re: Pasting a path should be possible without prealable switch to text mode
Hi Sebastien, I know the Copy/Paste action is *possible*, but what I meant is that it's not as easy as it should be : one has to switch into text mode (either by clicking on the notepad-like icon or pressing Ctrl+L. This should be possible using a single action (Paste) with no prealable action. Moreover, shortcuts are ok for expert users, but I think we shall not rely on that to ensure a good usability : most people do know Ctrl+C (eventhough lots of basic users prefer using contextual menus), but I'd bet my hand that 90% users do not know Ctrl+L. ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = New -- Pasting a path should be possible without prealable switch to text mode https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/391194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Mac_v, Sebastien, Holger, I understand your point of view, and I partly agree with you : basically, I think the way Nautilus runs is good. Deleting files is possible without asking confirmation each time, and asking confirmation only before the real deletion is really fluent... BUT, what makes me say that eventhough I like current Nautilus way of behaving, I'd prefer it to be changed is the discrepancy between Nautilus/Gnome and other major OS'es. Both Windows MacOS ask confirmation before both file deletion and trash emptying. Most people expect a confirmation at this point. For better usability, we shall meet this expectation AND make this feature customizable so that people like you (and probably me) can deactivate the confirmation before file move to trash. Here's the way it's implemented in Vista : http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/window-on-windows/?p=595 -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 389926] Re: Nautilus browser's pathbar doesn't display the entire path, even when it can
On my Jaunty fresh install, I only have to open any item in the Places menu, and I get a shortened path (behaviour visible in Capture-3.png, instead of the desired behaviour, visible in Capture-4.png) ** Attachment added: Current behaviour http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28289869/Capture-3.png -- Nautilus browser's pathbar doesn't display the entire path, even when it can https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/389926 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 389926] Re: Nautilus browser's pathbar doesn't display the entire path, even when it can
Here's the desired behaviour ** Attachment added: Capture-4.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28289895/Capture-4.png -- Nautilus browser's pathbar doesn't display the entire path, even when it can https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/389926 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 23293] Re: Nautilus windows should close on unmount
Errr... I see I'm not in the majority here, but eyh, I can still give my opinion... ;) Two major principles in HMI ergonomics are : - to let the user control the GUI, - to provide users with feedback so that they remain conscious of the system state. It seems to me that applying this principle here would not lead to redirecting the window to a new place (so that the user keeps control about what happens), but to display a message telling him the /media/usb_blahblah has been unmounted/ejected/whatever. This way, if he mounts a new media, the content will be displayed in the same window. -- Nautilus windows should close on unmount https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23293 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 389926] Re: Nautilus browser's pathbar doesn't display the entire path, even when it can
+1 on this issue... -- Nautilus browser's pathbar doesn't display the entire path, even when it can https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/389926 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 382703] Re: Home Folder has 3 different names
@Alex French If such a generic name is no longer defined, references to it in discussion will be inconsistent. Do you really think so ? Imagine we're on phone. If I want to tell you to go to /home/alex (e.g.), I just have to tell you Open the Places menu, and select your folder. If there's an item called Alex's documents, it will be fine... Another generic alternative, which would make sense, would be to go for a... Windows cloning : My documents. -- Home Folder has 3 different names https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/382703 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 382703] Re: Home Folder has 3 different names
IMHO, the issue is that users both use shortcuts from the menu, and have to browse the filesystem. If we use Home as a shortcut label in the menu, they may think that browsing to /home using Nautilus will lead them to the same place as the Home shortcut - usability issue. BTW, making a bridge between Windows approach and Ubuntu/Gnome one may be a good idea, to make new Ubuntu users' life easier : the My documents concept is very well known and understood. The only way to addresse both of these issues (help users to make a link between the menu shortcut and their filesystem ~ directory + be wording-compatible with Windows) , is to use both the username and documents term in the shortcut label. This would give Yann's documents, for example. -- Home Folder has 3 different names https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/382703 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 382703] Re: Home Folder has 3 different names
IMHO, the issue is that users both use shortcuts from the menu, and have to browse the filesystem. If we use Home as a shortcut label in the menu, they may think that browsing to /home using Nautilus will lead them to the same place as the Home shortcut - usability issue. BTW, making a bridge between Windows approach and Ubuntu/Gnome one may be a good idea, to make new Ubuntu users' life easier : the My documents concept is very well known and understood. The only way to addresse both of these issues (help users to make a link between the menu shortcut and their filesystem ~ directory + be wording-compatible with Windows) , is to use both the username and documents term in the shortcut label. This would give Yann's documents, for example. -- Home Folder has 3 different names https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/382703 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
