[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
This package has been removed from Ubuntu. Closing all related bugs. ** Changed in: gnome-app-install (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gst-plugins-good0.10 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 Title: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-app-install/+bug/146167/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
** Changed in: gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Triaged ** Changed in: gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: gst-plugins-ugly-multiverse0.10 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: gst-plugins-ugly-multiverse0.10 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: gst-plugins-ugly0.10 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: gst-plugins-ugly0.10 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: gst-plugins-good0.10 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: gst-plugins-good0.10 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: gst-plugins-bad-multiverse0.10 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: gst-plugins-bad-multiverse0.10 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: gst-plugins-bad0.10 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: gst-plugins-bad0.10 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: gnome-app-install (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: gnome-app-install (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
** Changed in: gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Incomplete -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
I have marked this as affecting gst-
plugins-{bad,good,ugly}{,-multiverse}0.10 as a means of suggesting that
the short package descriptions for these packages should be changed in
accordance with Matt Zimmerman's suggestion in comment #12. Regardless
of whether the removal of the Apply these changes? dialog gets
implemented, having less oblique short descriptions for these packages
would be a welcome improvement, and is by and large independent of how
upstream looks at this issue, as far as I can tell.
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[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
** Also affects: gst-plugins-ugly-multiverse0.10 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: gst-plugins-ugly0.10 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: gst-plugins-good0.10 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: gst-plugins-bad-multiverse0.10 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: gst-plugins-bad0.10 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
Again, what gnome-app-install should do is described in the initial report: Since I've already clicked the 'Install' button, don't show the 'Apply the following changes?' window at all. ** Changed in: gnome-app-install (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = New -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:32:01AM -, Michael Vogt wrote: What should gnome-app-install do about this? The description of the gst-plugins-bad0.10 is: Description: GStreamer plugins from the bad set GStreamer is a streaming media framework, based on graphs of filters ... So the short description has the word bad in it pretty prominently. I would suggest to remove this from the short description. There is nothing in g-a-i or the app-install-data package that would show bad otherwise. Is the best way to fix this to change the gstreamer packages, or can they be overridden in g-a-i to provide proper descriptions? How about these: Description: Multimedia plugins for GStreamer (stable) Description: Multimedia plugins for GStreamer (experimental) Description: Multimedia plugins for GStreamer (restricted) -- - mdz -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
What should gnome-app-install do about this? The description of the gst-plugins-bad0.10 is: Description: GStreamer plugins from the bad set GStreamer is a streaming media framework, based on graphs of filters ... So the short description has the word bad in it pretty prominently. I would suggest to remove this from the short description. There is nothing in g-a-i or the app-install-data package that would show bad otherwise. ** Changed in: gnome-app-install (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Incomplete -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
Triaged to Confirmed. I like spaghetti westerns as well, but to anyone who hasn't seen The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly staring Clint Eastwood, would be lost on what ugly means. At some point the names could be changed. It's up to the gstreamer developers or the Ubuntu packaging team to make less-offensive aliases. ** Changed in: gnome-app-install (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
TerryG wrote: Triaged to Confirmed. I like spaghetti westerns as well, but to anyone who hasn't seen The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly staring Clint Eastwood, would be lost on what ugly means. At some point the names could be changed. It's up to the gstreamer developers or the Ubuntu packaging team to make less-offensive aliases. I agree with Matt that we shouldn't change the package name (specially if Debian doesn't do so, but even if it was my decision to change it in Debian, I wouldn't do it), but we can change the Description and make gnome-app-install show the description. Another thing would be for gstreamer's uptream to change the names, of course. -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
Emilio, someone who is (rightly) alarmed when we call software bad would be even more alarmed if we called it unstable AND bad. So no, that wouldn't solve the problem, it would make it worse. :-) -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Emilio, someone who is (rightly) alarmed when we call software bad would be even more alarmed if we called it unstable AND bad. So no, that wouldn't solve the problem, it would make it worse. :-) heh, right. Perhaps the same but removing bad/ugly/good. Although I doubt that will be any better than it is now, as a user will be as (or more) alarmed if he sees unstable (or experimental) than if he sees bad or ugly. Non-free sounds like a good replacement for ugly. good doesn't need to be replaced at all. But for bad... what about not-so-good? :) -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
I think stable, experimental, and nonfree (as suggested by Sean) would be fine, and those names should be used upstream. But as I said in the initial report, Ubuntu shouldn't be showing the Apply the following changes? window at all. -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: I think stable, experimental, and nonfree (as suggested by Sean) would be fine, and those names should be used upstream. Forward it to upstream them ;-) But as I said in the initial report, Ubuntu shouldn't be showing the Apply the following changes? window at all. Agreed. And if that's fixed the gst-plugins-* could be closed as obsolete (it would still be showed as bad/ugly in Synaptic, but if a user goes to synaptic and installs the package by hand he likely knows what he's doing, that's completely different than going to play music and seen that dialogue). I would really like to avoid diverging from Debian now that we have the gstreamer stack in sync. affects gnome-app-install status confirmed ** Also affects: gnome-app-install Importance: Undecided Status: Confirmed -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
** Changed in: gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None = gstreamer0.10 -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
Showing the description should be implemented in gnome-app-install. What would you propose for the description? Would this solve this bug? GStreamer plugins from the non-free (ugly) set GStreamer plugins from the unstable (bad) set GStreamer plugins from the stable (good) set Or would you remove ugly/bad/good entirely? -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 146167] Re: Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology
** Also affects: gnome-app-install (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Installing codecs exposes bad and ugly terminology https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gstreamer0.10 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
