[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Jean-Baptiste Lallement]

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

I was just saying that if the decision was made to keep xkb-keymap then
there had to be a decision to start using it implicitly in ubiquity. And
by 'using' I didn't just mean the literal sense of us using the value
explicitly, but acting accordingly to what consequences it brings - as
it requires us to do one of the two as you mentioned in your post. So I
don't think there's much of a misunderstanding here. It's all good and I
guess for the next merge we should proceed with adjusting things so that
ubiquity is happy with the changes.

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre]

There was a misunderstanding there: I never suggested we should use xkb-
keymap instead (or at least, that's not the message I was trying to
convey).

The intent was to reduce delta by not removing so much code, when
console-setup merges are already difficult. I didn't foresee that some
of that code setting a default would impact ubiquity (because ubiquity
does things specially with d-i components, sometimes running them
multiple times). There's always a need to update ubiquity after changing
d-i components; it's inevitable since some of them are embedded in
ubiquity source.

The removals of xkb-keymaps aren't ubiquity-specific: we don't use this
code in d-i, and instead use multiple screens to change keyboards.
That's a conscious decision.

The point for supporting xkb-keymap "in ubiquity" is more about making
sure that we either "rebuild" the value based on layoutcode/variantcode,
or otherwise unset it before running the configuration script -- ie.
leave it in, but just explicitly ignore its values.

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Launchpad Bug Tracker]

This bug was fixed in the package console-setup - 1.178ubuntu2

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console-setup (1.178ubuntu2) bionic; urgency=medium

  * debian/keyboard-configuration.config:
- Drop the xkb-keymap bits once again as we're not ready for those yet, as
  it's currently causing an invalid default layout in the installer.
  (LP: #1758647)

 -- Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak   Thu, 19 Apr
2018 08:53:32 +0200

** Changed in: console-setup (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

** Changed in: console-setup (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic)
 Assignee: Jean-Baptiste Lallement (jibel) => Łukasz Zemczak (sil2100)

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

I talked with cyphermox and it seems the delta was removed intentionally
- with the intention of just starting to use xkb-keymap in ubiquity -
but this cycle that didn't happen. Since it does require a small amount
of design work and we're really close to release, it's best to just re-
introduce the changes. I'll be uploading as soon as I have a moment.

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

I think I finally understand how the whole default-keyboard
configuration is done in ubiquity and console-setup. The reason why it's
busted is indeed the keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap debconf variable.
The reason everything worked up until artful was that before artful we
have been reverting the xkb-keymap pieces from keyboard-
configuration.config because of ubiquity (mostly), and this change was
dropped with the artful console-setup merge with Debian. I'm trying to
ask around if that was intentional or not. If it was, then we need to
handle setting of xkb-keymap after performing language selection
(possibly in ubiquity). If not, then we'd have to remove it - or at
least the pieces where xkb-keymap is overriding all locale/country-based
default keyboard layout selection in console-setup.

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

** Changed in: console-setup (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Status: New => In Progress

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Francis Ginther]

** Tags added: id-5ad61a208d39d0e15b7bb3c2

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

** Changed in: console-setup (Ubuntu Bionic)
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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Jean-Baptiste Lallement]

>From the logs it seems that even if the locale is set to a non-english
language, the config variable xkb-keymap introduced in 17.10 is set to
'us' and Ubiquity uses this value to update the UI.

Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET debian-installer/locale
debconf (developer): <-- GET debian-installer/locale
debconf (developer): --> 1 fr_FR.UTF-8
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET localechooser/languagelist
debconf (developer): <-- GET localechooser/languagelist
debconf (developer): --> 1 fr
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET debian-installer/country
debconf (developer): <-- GET debian-installer/country
debconf (developer): --> 1 FR
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap
debconf (developer): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap
debconf (developer): --> 1 us
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/modelcode
debconf (developer): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/modelcode
debconf (developer): --> 1 
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/layoutcode
debconf (developer): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/layoutcode
debconf (developer): --> 1 
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/variantcode
debconf (developer): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/variantcode
debconf (developer): --> 1 
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/optionscode
debconf (developer): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/optionscode
debconf (developer): --> 1

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Sebastien Bacher]

jibel is looking at this one but it looks like a console-setup issue at
this point

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic)
 Assignee: Sebastien Bacher (seb128) => Jean-Baptiste Lallement (jibel)

** Also affects: console-setup (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

I'm able to reproduce Sebastien's success by following the steps in
comment #9.

At the same time I'm able to reproduce the failure as reported by both
Pjotr12345 and myself via these steps:

- boot the iso
- patiently wait, without pressing any key, until Ubiquity boots
  [yes Seb, I can be patient sometimes]
-> Ubiquity is booted with English preselected (see attached image)
- Change to Nederlands
-> The display language changes instantly
- Click the "ubuntu installieren" button
-> The basic English (US) layout is selected

So it seems like the language must be selected before Ubiquity boots to
get a reasonably guessed preselected layout.

But how would the user know that pressing a key initially makes a
difference when they are not told so? The official installation
instruction here:

https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop

does not mention the syslinux menu either.

The desired behavior is reasonably that when you change the language on
Ubiquity's welcome screen, the preselected layout should be changed to
match the selected language (just as the display language is).

Btw, with the press-a-key approach, "Try Ubuntu" enters a session with
the correct layout in /etc/default/keyboard. So yes, this is probably a
pure ubiquity bug, not affecting gnome-settings-daemon.

** Attachment added: "ubiquity-welcome.jpeg"
   
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** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Importance: High => Undecided

** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Bionic)
 Assignee: Sebastien Bacher (seb128) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Sebastien Bacher]

the scenario you describe is totally different, you don't select the
language on the "grub like menu" and you boot to the live session mode
and not to the "ubiquity only" (which is the third entry), there seems
to be an issue with ubiquity in any case because if you go back and pick
another language and do next the keyboard is not updated

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Pjotr12345]

For the sake of completeness, I repeated the test with the latest daily
build of Xubuntu Bionic (timestamped: 2018-04-04 06:05). Again: the
Xubuntu iso shows precisely the same results as with the Ubuntu iso.

This seems to rule out gnome-settings-daemon as culprit...

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Pjotr12345]

Just tested some other languages: exactly the same error happens when I
select Deutsch, Francais, Espanol or Italiano. They all present English
(US) as default preselected keyboard layout.

@Sebastien Bacher: have you already tested it with a UEFI machine
running in full UEFI mode, on the bare metal (not in VirtualBox)?

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Pjotr12345]

Sebastien Bacher: what happened on your system is the right result, but
that's not what happens on my machine Still not, when I use the
latest daily Ubuntu iso (timestamped 20180-04-03 07:03).

It's a test machine with UEFI running in full UEFI mode, which might
account for the difference with the result from your test. My approach
is straightforward:

- I boot my laptop from the iso.
- it shows only the normal Grub-like "terminal" lines, no GUI, with "Try Ubuntu 
without installing" as first line of the four. Which is normal for UEFI.
- I select the first line
- after the desktop appears, I establish Wifi connection
- I start Ubiquity
- In the welcome screen of Ubiquity, I select "Nederlands"
- I click the button "Verder" (Continue)
- I'm being presented with the wrong preselected "Engels (VS)" keyboard layout, 
like I described in the opening message in this thread.

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Sebastien Bacher]

Thank you for your bug report, could you give some details
- where do you pick the language? on the syslinux first text based boot? or in 
the installer?
- do you use the install only mode or the live session?
- is that specific to that language or do you see similar issues in other 
locales?

I tried on a daily bionic iso
- boot the iso
- touch a key to see the syslinux menu, select nederlands
- select "ubuntu installieren"
-> it boots to ubiquity only with netherlands select
- do next
-> "Engels (VS) with "dode toesten" is selected

that seems about right?

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Will Cooke]

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

** Also affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Importance: High
 Assignee: Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
   Status: Confirmed

** Also affects: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Importance: High
   Status: Confirmed

** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Bionic)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

** Tags removed: rls-bb-incoming

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Tim Lunn]

OP said that this also affects Xubuntu and Lubuntu so its not likely
only gnome-settings-daemon involved here, since neither of them use it.

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[Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

@Pjotr12345: Thanks for the lesson on Dutch keyboards. :)

I can confirm that it's a regression compared to 16.04. On 16.04, if the
selected language matches the time zone location, a reasonable guess is
pre-set in the window for setting keyboard layout.

So if I select Nederlands and pretend to live in Haag, the installer
indeed suggests the us+intl layout.

This behavior was broken in 17.10, and I have a feeling that it's
related to the switch from unity-settings-daemon to gnome-settings-
daemon.

Compare:

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-settings-daemon-team/unity-settings-
daemon/trunk/view/head:/plugins/keyboard/gsd-keyboard-manager.c

with:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-
daemon/blob/master/plugins/keyboard/gsd-keyboard-manager.c

The fix of bug #1719938 resulted in this patch:

https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-settings-
daemon/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/ubuntu_ibus_configs.patch

which handles it for some locales which typically need input methods.
But for all other locales it simply defaults to the basic English (US)
layout.

As already mentioned, this may make the live session for many (most?)
languages disappointing. Typing is an essential part of the desktop
experience.

** Also affects: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu)
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** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu)
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