[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: xorg-server Importance: Critical = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/36812/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: xorg-server Importance: Medium = Critical -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: xorg-server Importance: Unknown = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
@Bryce Harrington: This feature was apparently dropped from the latest Natty release ( 2:1.9.99.901+git20110131.be3be758-0ubuntu1 - http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xorg- server_1.9.99.901+git20110131.be3be758-0ubuntu1/changelog ) by Christopher James Halse Rogers (CCed) with the following comment: * Drop 208_switch_on_release.diff; upstream By upstream I figured it meant Debian (the title of the change was Merge from (unreleased) debian-experimental) and not freedesktop.org - as I know they didn't commit this fix. On the other hand, I looked everywhere and couldn't find any reference of such an upstream release from Debian - and indeed after installing the latest xorg-server, the functionality has disappeared. As such I'm reopening this issue and I hope the patch will come back before Natty is released. Again, thanks for all the effort. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Oops - apparently I can't reopen this bug. Someone with permissions - please reopen this ticket and/or resubmit the patch. Thanks in advance. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I have created a new bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/711842 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: xorg-server Importance: Medium = Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
uploaded to natty ** Package changed: xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) = xorg-server (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
@Bryce Harrington, thanks a lot, we all here have been waiting for this day to come! :) Speaking about testing, here is one more feedback from me: I'm using my maverick with this patch applied for a couple of months now. Shortcuts are working as they should in Firefox, Eclipse and Gnome terminal, no side effects observed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Many many thanks!! It is indeed a long awaited day :D -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Hi. I reported this bug here five years ago, gathered the info in 2006-2007 and watched the logs all those years. I really happy it is fixed in Ubuntu. I even wrote a historical review of this issue in my blog: http://rulinux.net.ru/node/462 I want to say huge thanks to Ilya Murav'jov, Alexey Kozlov, Oded Arbel, Daniel Stone, Nick Andrik, Bryce Harrington, Timo Aaltonen and many many other users and developers involved to fix it! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
@Alexey Kozlov, thanks for your well written summary of the problem. The one warning flag is the contradicts spec issue (which may be what has blocked this from being taken up 'til now), however the exact words from upstream about this seem less dire: The patch looks pretty much fine to me, except that I'd just hardcode release-only and don't try to make it configurable. I'm not entirely sure about the bit marked with KLUDGE, and would like to find a better way to do it, but if that's fixed (I'll try to have a look this weekend or next, depending on time), my only objection to merging it is that it explicitly contradicts the spec. I'm not entirely convinced that's a dealbreaker though. I can understand that voiding the spec is a blocker for upstream, but at the distro level there's a little bit more flexibility, especially given the top-level direction that we'll eventually move away from X11 towards something Wayland-ish anyway. It sounds like the next step required for this patch is to gain some more widespread testing. Since the change is behavioral, it seems low risk for causing crashes or other critical issues, so tentatively I'm willing to stick it in natty and see how it goes. ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: control-center (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) = (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Comment, asked for an update on the upstream bug tracker. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 Title: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Package changed: xorg (Ubuntu) = xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Thank you for taking the time to report this issue. However, I'm declining this as a paper cut because this bug is not trivially fixable. A paper cut is a small usability problem in default and featured applications that affect many users. Please note that I'm marking this as Invalid for the One Hundred Paper Cuts project ONLY. I've opened a new task for Xorg in Ubuntu—which was missing—that makes this bug show up on the radar of the people whose task it is to look after X. Previously this tasked lacked, so the Ubuntu X developers couldn't have known this bug existed. A task for xorg should have been added when this bug was marked as Invalid for control-center. ** Also affects: xorg (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Project changed: hundredpapercuts = null ** Changed in: null Status: New = Invalid -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Description changed: - I have Ctrl+Shift set to layout switch and press ctrl+shift+N (to open - new Terminal or new tab in Opera) -- as a result I have my keyboard - layout switched. This happens because Ubuntu (or XOrg?) change layout on - key press instead of release and do not match layout hotkeys with - application shortcuts. MS Windows do. If layout change hotkeys is - pressed with another key this must be treated as application shortcut - and layout must not be changed. Combined with shortcut bugs in some - Linux applications [Bug 2561] this makes keyboard shortcuts nearly - unusable in default bilingual configuration. + This is a bug about shortcuts mapped to combinations which include each + other. + + For example, if we have Ctrl+Shift (for keyboard layout) and Ctrl+Shift+N (to open a new terminal), then we are practically unable to use the second shortcut; this is what happens: + Ctrl press (nothing happens) + Shift press (keyboard layout change) + N (a simple N appears, since a shortcut has already fired) + + The expected behavior is to fire shortcuts on the release (not on press) + of the special keys (ctrl,shift,alt, etc) which is also how Windows + behave. This is a serious problem for bilingual layouts, typically using + Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift for keyboard layout change. + + + For users being affected by this problem, the easiest solution for now is to add this PPA in your repositories: + https://launchpad.net/~oded-geek/+archive/xorg-patches + + + Practical summary of this bug for ubuntu developers (since reading 120 comments is impractical for most): + This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream (#55), and attached here (#61). + Upstream xorg has refused to apply the patch, mainly because it explicitly contradicts the (xkb) spec (#84, #91). + This patch has been reported to work for many people without any problems, and there is also a PPA by Oded Arbel (#95) where he maintains a patched version of the ubuntu xorg. + The proper resolution of this bug would be to apply this patch in the upstream xorg, or at minimum to the official ubuntu xorg package. ** Description changed: ** Description changed: This is a bug about shortcuts mapped to combinations which include each other. For example, if we have Ctrl+Shift (for keyboard layout) and Ctrl+Shift+N (to open a new terminal), then we are practically unable to use the second shortcut; this is what happens: Ctrl press (nothing happens) Shift press (keyboard layout change) N (a simple N appears, since a shortcut has already fired) The expected behavior is to fire shortcuts on the release (not on press) of the special keys (ctrl,shift,alt, etc) which is also how Windows behave. This is a serious problem for bilingual layouts, typically using Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift for keyboard layout change. - For users being affected by this problem, the easiest solution for now is to add this PPA in your repositories: https://launchpad.net/~oded-geek/+archive/xorg-patches - Practical summary of this bug for ubuntu developers (since reading 120 comments is impractical for most): - This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream (#55), and attached here (#61). + This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/36812/comments/55), and attached here (#61). Upstream xorg has refused to apply the patch, mainly because it explicitly contradicts the (xkb) spec (#84, #91). This patch has been reported to work for many people without any problems, and there is also a PPA by Oded Arbel (#95) where he maintains a patched version of the ubuntu xorg. The proper resolution of this bug would be to apply this patch in the upstream xorg, or at minimum to the official ubuntu xorg package. ** Description changed: This is a bug about shortcuts mapped to combinations which include each other. For example, if we have Ctrl+Shift (for keyboard layout) and Ctrl+Shift+N (to open a new terminal), then we are practically unable to use the second shortcut; this is what happens: Ctrl press (nothing happens) Shift press (keyboard layout change) N (a simple N appears, since a shortcut has already fired) The expected behavior is to fire shortcuts on the release (not on press) of the special keys (ctrl,shift,alt, etc) which is also how Windows behave. This is a serious problem for bilingual layouts, typically using Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift for keyboard layout change. For users
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Azamat S. Kalimoulline, we all here are interested, how many more years will it take, for this at last to happen. AlexGenaud, I suppose Ctrl+Shift is a good shortuct (actually I used it in Windows as well, cause it seems to me more convenient as default Alt+Shift) -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I use Shift+Caps Lock. Ctrl-Shift is a bit too easy for me to hit by accident. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
(me too) confirm Alt-Shift keyboard layout switch incompatible with Alt- Shift-Tab Window switching in reverse in Ubuntu 10.10... This bug is set to Low/Medium priority, but what are the recommended work-arounds? Alt-Shift is an obvious keyboard layout switch because it is default in Windows. Alt-Space is default on Mac OS X (I think) but that is incompatible with Gnome window menus. Various other combinations conflict (like Alt-Gr/Right Alt is nec. for many non-English layouts). How are polyglot Ubuntu users switching keyboard layouts? -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Using patched xorg from Oded ppa fixes my problem. Keboard layout changes on release and works like a charm. No side-effects affects to me. When this patch will be included in official source tree and when it will be available in repositories? -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I guess it is this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/625793 As it seems, gnome-settings-daemon is to blame and not Oded's patch. Is there any other annoyance with the proposed patch? I hope we can get it in the official package some time soon, instead of having to rely to parallel unofficial repositories. Nick -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Small correction above: the patch is from Ilya, not from Oded -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Yesterday I upgraded to maverick and today experienced layout switching bug. Not sure if it relates to the original xserver because I immediately installed patched version kindly provided by Oded Arbel. However, here is how it looks like: at a random moment when I switch layout gnome-settings-daemon spikes to 100%, active layout is 'stuck' (i.e. it does no longer switch) and when I press and hold a key a random sequence of two characters is printed (chars from two installed layouts mapped to the same key). My second layout is cyrillic, so if I hold down ф, printed sequence looks like фaффффaaaффaфa. I haven't found any guaranteed way to trigger such a behavior, but is does happen several times a day at moments when I switch layouts actively (1-2 times a second). Have anybody else faced something like this with the original xserver and/or patched version? -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I have seen this behavior as well in the patched X-Server, and I may have also seen this with the original Maverick X-Server - though I'm not sure about it. I get this bug triggered only by using Synergy, but with almost 100% consistency: I use Ubuntu 10.04 as a Synergy server, and 10.10 is the client. If I move my mouse to the 10.10 screen and try to switch languages by using ALT-SHIFT on the server keyboard, I get the faulty behavior. What happens is that gnome-settings-daemon - which is normally responsible for switching layouts when you switch applications - starts switching through all the layouts uncontrollably as if the switching keys are stuck, and takes up 100% CPU. If you start typing anywhere, you'd get characters from all layouts mixed together. At this point, if you try to use the keyboard layout indicator in the session applet, you'd see that its stuck and does not respond to requests to set the layout. Finally, sending TERM to gnome-settings-daemon will not stop it and you must use the KILL signal (-9). I believe this is a gnome-settings-daemon, mostly as I can also cause gnome-settings-daemon to spike to 100% CPU usage simply by sending it a TERM signal while working normally. At which point the keyboard layout indicator is again stuck and does not respond to actions, but using the layout switching keys works normally and there is no cycling through the layouts. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I believe this bug falls in the papercut category and I have nominated as such. It satisfies all the requirements for a papercut: * A bug, or an unintended problem occurring within an existing piece of software, (Xorg) * the presence of which makes a computer more difficult or less pleasant to use, (international users cannot use the desired shortcuts) * that is easy to fix, (patch already available) * that the average user would encounter... (insternational users with multiple keyboard layouts) * in a default installation of Latest release of Ubuntu or Kubuntu, Desktop Edition. (Xorg is installed by default and this bug is already many years old) Please consider applying Ilya's patch attached in this bug report. ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: gnome-control-center Status: Invalid = Unknown ** Changed in: gnome-control-center Importance: Unknown = Medium -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Bug 36812: Applying XKB patch to Ubuntu XOrg package
Hello X-SWAT team! I would like to draw your attention to one old and annoying XKB bug, which has been fixed by a patch few months ago. Although this patch seems to provide a reasonable solution for the problem, and several people reported it worked for them without any side-effects, it wasn't accepted upstream. The answer from Xorg developer was, that such a behavior would contradict the spec and the issue probably will be fixed with a new spec for XKB2. Unfortunately, the latter sounds like when pigs fly... It's also worth mentioning, that corresponding bug in Xorg bugzilla was filed 6 (!) years ago, with no notable progress until recently, and even now when patch is available it has been not applied upstream. Now brief summary of the problem. Issue: If KB layout switching is used, any keyboard shortcuts involving keys from key combination used for switching don't work any more. Example: If Ctrl+Shift used as layout switching shortcut (most common case), then Ctrl+Shift+T shortcut doesn't work in Firefox, as well as other Ctrl+Shift+Key shortcuts in all other programs. Cause: It turned out, that layout switching occurs on KEY DOWN event, thus preventing all further keys in a shortcut from being processed. Fix: The patch provides simple and obvious solution: switching occurs on KEY RELEASE event, which means, it will be fired only if eg Ctrl+Shift ALONE were pressed. Importance: It could happen, that Xorg developers who themselves use only 1 US layout, just do not understand how serious the problem is. Because of this bug, quite wide range of shortcuts is not accessible in ALL applications system-wide. And since almost all people outside English-speaking countries use multiple layouts (national + English for web addresses, programming etc), the number of affected users is also significant. What makes things even worse, is the fact, that it's not quite a priori obvious, that layout switching causes the problem. So typically user notices, that some shortcuts are not working in some particular application, and will be searching for solution for this specific problem - and will most probably find nothing. So did I, googled without any success, and only after some experiments later I've figured out, that layout switching is actually to blame. So it's a big time-loss and annoyance for all newcomers, who need to reinvent the wheel by themselves. That's why discussing this bug on Launchpad, we came to the following suggestion: Would it be possible to include this patch in standard Ubuntu Xorg distribution, thus saving all international users much efforts? It would definitely make Ubuntu distro even more user-friendly :) You can find full discussion and further details as well as the patch itself here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xorg-server/+bug/36812 Bug filed in Freedesktop bugzilla: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865 Many thanks in advance and hope for your collaboration. Best regards, Alexey Kozlov -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Alexey, could you please send them an email and CC also this bug ( Bug 36812 36...@bugs.launchpad.net )? Like this we can get their response here. Thanks, Nick -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Nick, should I send e-mail to their maillist ubuntu-x-swat(at)lists.launchpad ? -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
So, still no reaction from x-swat after almost a week. Should we send them email and ask directly? -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
First of all, thanks to all of you guys for your efforts and especially to Ilya fot the patch. I'm also affected and extremely annoyed by this bug. I've moved to Linux recently and first mentioned, that Ctrl+Shift+T doesn't work in Firefox, and then it turned out, that I can't use Eclipse properly since there are many vital Ctrl+Shift shortcuts there. And I'd like to be explicit here - IMO it's just a shame that such a STUPID bug is still not fixed after SIX years (it was reported back in 2004!). OK, I understand, it's free software and nobody gets paid for fixing bugs, but denying existing patch for some kind of puristic (not to say religious) reasons - it seems to me, well, strange. How can we claim that Ubuntu (in particular) is user-friendly and for people and at the same time preserve such annoying bugs? (another example I've ran into - mystical restriction to have max. of 4 KB layouts in XKB - but at least it's not so common. btw excuse is the same - the holy spec). I'm not sure how it aligns with existing procedures, but wouldn't it be possible to apply this patch during packaging Xorg for Ubuntu, so that Xorg packages from standard repos (and their future updates) include this fix? After all, this bug really affects a lot of people, since there are users outside US as well and almost all of them use layout switching. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
It is quite possible to package the patch just for Ubuntu. I'm actually maintaining such a build in my ppa at https://launchpad.net/~oded- geek/+archive/xorg-patches. All ubuntu devs should do is just pick up the diff from my ppa and apply it as an update to 10.04 or 9.10. I will also deliver a patched XOrg for 10.10 shortly. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Oded, thanks, I saw patched packages in your ppa and it's great. But my question was, are there any ways to convince Ubuntu maintainers to include them in standard repos? (more precisely, to apply Ilya's patch to each new Xorg version and put this patched version in standard repo). I suppose, the reasons are clear: 1) new users get fixed version out-of- the-box 2) no need to reinstall package from ppa after each Xorg update (it's not just a question of 10.04/10.10, they also produce intermediate bug-fix releases of Xorg, aren't they?) But the whole thing seems to me a little hacky, that's why I ask about procedures, -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
@Alexey: Regarding your point (2), if I do a well enough job and release an update to the PPA immediately after Ubuntu upstream releases an X update, then users will only have to install 1 update, or at worst they'd have 1 X update that requires them to logout and another X update a day later that again requires a log out. Regarding point (1) - Ubuntu's X11 distribution carries a lot of out of stream patches (in 10.04 I count more then 50 additional patches) that are either in process of being accepted upstream to x.org or intermediate fixed waiting for another fix from upstream or even patches that have no chance of being accepted upstream - and Ubuntu still caries them and make sure they are up to date until they have a better solution from X.org. To get Ilya's patch into Ubuntu proper, it requires simply the intervention of Ubuntu's X-SWAT team ( https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat ) and that most likely will not require a rewrite of XKB ;-) but I don't see any of these people list on this bug report, and I'm not sure what is the procedure for addressing the Ubuntu X team directly. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Hello Oded, I think it is a good idea to subscribe the team in this bug report in order to have their opinion. And, btw, we should probably move the bug to the appropriate package (it is not in the control-center it is in xorg) Nick -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Oded, thanks for your explanations. Hope X-SWAT team will add this patch to Ubuntu X11 distro. Is it enough to just subscribe them or should we attract their attention in some other way? :) -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I have already subscribed the x-swat team for now. We wait a bit to see if someone responds and if not we can also email them to see if they think that accepting Ilya's patch in the official ubuntu version is a good idea. Nick -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Ok, thanks a lot! -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Let just me stress the importance of this bug once more, cause English-speaking users may not readily appreciate it. A large part of non-English people use at least two keyboard layouts: one for their native language and one for Latin script: web addresses, programming, whatever. A common way to switch layouts (wherever it comes from) is pressing Ctrl+Shift or Alt+Shift. If you use any of these in Ubuntu, you lose it for all shorcuts. Ctrl-shift arrows don't work, etc etc. We are talking about huge productivity impairment - the loss of keyboard shortcuts - in all apps systemwide, for whole countries. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Hi, Alexander! daniels i'm inclined to not apply it, as it directly contradicts the xkb spec, and is also apparently buggy (see the upstream bug report with some people complaining that it breaks occasionally) The patch is not buggy, the only issue complained was my own (see more at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865 ). And the reason is known - LED's highlighting confilcts with the patch, 1) it can be safely avoided, 2) it is just a little tech problem which can be done. daniels well, we could write the spec better for xkb2 ;) daniels yeah, i'm not personally affected by it as i only use US layout daniels i can see that it sucks, but otoh i don't like contradicting the spec for no good reason I start to think it is a discrimination. No xkb2 writing is required! My first suggestion was to add my patch as configuration option; so the default installation of Xorg works as expected, and there is no spec contradiction. If a user wishes he(she) turned that option on/off as one of many others you can see in Keyboard Preferences. xkb2 waiting is just 'when pigs fly' excuse. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I think enabling multilingual people to use both keyboard shortcuts and layout switching actually IS a good reason to contradict the spec. Please improve the patch and apply it! -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I talked to the people from #xorg-devel on FreeNode today about the status of Ilya's patch daniels i'm inclined to not apply it, as it directly contradicts the xkb spec, and is also apparently buggy (see the upstream bug report with some people complaining that it breaks occasionally) saaskaand who makes the xkb spec? daniels well, us. we could change it, but there's not much point in a spec which changes ... saaskamm and what would cause you to look further into this? daniels well, we could write the spec better for xkb2 ;) daniels yeah, i'm not personally affected by it as i only use US layout daniels i can see that it sucks, but otoh i don't like contradicting the spec for no good reason saaskayou don't notice it if you don't switch languages daniels well, i notice all the affected users in my inbox :P saaskai'd even go as far as to say it's a major annoyance with layout-switching people daniels understandable To me this looks like it's not gonna be fixed any time soon. I hope xkb2 spec is somewhere around the corner. Oh well... -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Очень надеюсь, что это окончательное решение этого застарелого бага. Хотя я видел сообщения, что у кого-то не заработало. 2010/3/14 Misha Bazanov _b...@mail.ru I suggested this bug for one hundred papercuts because that already have a patch and bug is annoying. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- Yours, Eugene Lisitsky -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I suggested this bug for one hundred papercuts because that already have a patch and bug is annoying. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Oh! I owe you beer, Il'usha, surely! And everybody else who will help this patch approval for Lycid. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Nick, I talked with Peter Hutterer, maintainer of X Server, a few days ago and he promised to review the patch (and to apply it to upstream if it's good). P.S. He can be found on Freenode IRC, #xorg-devel, as whot. I hope this is not a private information. :) -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Many thanks for your work and info Ilya :D -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Any chance to see this patch in for lucid? -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Ah, my problem was misunderstanding the SCIM config See http://www.scim-im.org/forums#nabble-td4554222|a4554222 Basically I found that in the SCIM Global Setup I had Shift-Control-KeyRelease-Shift_L, Shift-Control-KeyRelease-Shift_R, Shift-Control-KeyRelease-Control_L, and Shift-Control-KeyRelease-Control_R defined. Removing these stops the Control-Shift trigger. But I missed this even looking at the SCIM dialog multiple times because it looks more complex than a Shift-Control keypress So although the Control-Shift in scim is incompatible with Ctrl-Shift-* shortcuts, I can disable it, so this isn't a problem for me know -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
If I may expand on it a bit, with SCIM on and XKB layout switching set to CTRL+SHIFT, there are 3 contenders for CTRL+SHIFT, and they supersede each other in this order: 1. XKB 2. SCIM 3. Application's CTRL+SHIFT-key shortcuts The patch from FreeDesktop.org bug #865 fixes it so that 1 (XKB) no longer blocks 3, but it still blocks 2 because CTRL+SHIFT release is eaten by XKB and SCIM doesn't see it. I think its OK as you wouldn't want to assign the same shortcut key to both keyboard layout and SCIM. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Oded, No, my patch doesn't block anything on release: keyboard layout is switched *along* with SCIM triggering (for David Fraser). So I assume everything is ok untill David states clearly that he has troubles with the patch. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I've tried the patch and it allows me to use my Ctrl-Shift shortcuts, but the SCIM dialog still pops up when I release one of Ctrl or Shift despite having pressed keys in between. Is this expected? How can I find where the Ctrl-Shift mapping is defined (it's not in GNOME shortcuts or SCIM shortcuts AFAICS) -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
David - when I set the keyboard layout switching shortcut to CTRL+SHIFT (instead of what I normally use) then that shortcut never triggers SCIM and only changes the standard system layout. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
David, How to reproduce your situation, what DE? I have never used SCIM dialogs, how to turn them on? -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I also just finished patching current Ubuntu 9.10 xorg (2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4.1) and it works perfectly. The patch applied cleanly with no issues, and after that my XKB shortcut (ALT+SHIFT) switches only on release and ALT+SHIFT based application shortcuts work as expected. I'll report on my success with Lucid next. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
On Lucid, xserver-xorg 1.7.3.902-1ubuntu12.1, the patch applies almost cleanly - Hunk #2 needs an offset of 1 line. I have uploaded the package to my PPA at https://launchpad.net/~oded- geek/+archive/xorg-patches . -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Ilya Murav'jov from http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865 has posted the attached patch to resolve this issue. It indeed considers the key combinations on release and not on press. I have checked it with combinations of Alt, Shit andTab where : Alt+Tab : next window Alt+Shift+Tab: previous window Alt+Shift: change keyboard layout I have checked it against the karmic version (1.6.4-2ubuntu4.1) and it works. The patch version can be found in my PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~andrikos/+archive/ppa Could someone test it against the version on lucid and update the package? PS: Ilya has told me that the switch on release is hard-coded and cannot be turned off. Is this a problem? Would there be people preferring to keep the previous switch on press behavior? ** Patch added: switch on release patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38870942/switch_on_release.diff ** Tags added: patch -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Re #8: When you set layout changing options in GNOME it sets the X.org XKB options - just like setting it directly in xorg.conf. This should be solved in X.org. The Freedesktop.org bugzilla has an interesting discussion about it, I hope it will eventually lead to a solution though at this point it doesn't look like there are any developer resources committed to it. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I can add that this happens because of GNOME also, not jsut X.org. If i set alt-shift in xorg.conf for layout change, and for ctrl-shift in gnome, the ctrl-shift-u or ctrl-shift-s etc. shortcuts DO NOT work. It just changes the layout. So it's not X.org. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Personally this is a big problem for me - not allowing me to use alt-shift-tab while my change group key is alt-shift. I belive this problem would be a major issue as more dual-language users are added to the gang. nonZero -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: xorg-server (upstream) Status: Unknown = In Progress -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: control-center (upstream) Status: Unknown = Rejected -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
This is three years old XOrg bug. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865 -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Bug watch added: Freedesktop Bugzilla #865 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865 ** Also affects: xorg-server (upstream) via https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
closing the Ubuntu task then ** Changed in: control-center (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Rejected -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I've opened the bug upstream: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430637 ** Changed in: control-center (upstream) Importance: Undecided = Unknown Bugwatch: None = GNOME Bug Tracker #430637 Status: Unconfirmed = Unknown -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430637 Comment #1 from Sergey V. Udaltsov (developer, points: 14) 2007-04-17 12:44 UTC [reply] NOTGNOME. That's the way X works. -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36812 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Thanks for the bug report. Somebody of the team could forward this upstream. ** Changed in: control-center (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium = Low Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed ** Also affects: control-center (upstream) Importance: Undecided Status: Unconfirmed -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://launchpad.net/bugs/36812 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
I can also confirm this bug. I use Alt+Shift for language change and Alt+Shift+Tab for backwards changing windows. Thus, I cannot change the windows backwards -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://launchpad.net/bugs/36812 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gnome-control-center = control-center -- Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts https://launchpad.net/bugs/36812 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 36812] Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts
Public bug reported: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/36812 Affects: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Severity: Normal Priority: (none set) Status: Unconfirmed Description: I have Ctrl+Shift set to layout switch and press ctrl+shift+N (to open new Terminal or new tab in Opera) -- as a result I have my keyboard layout switched. This happens because Ubuntu (or XOrg?) change layout on key press instead of release and do not match layout hotkeys with application shortcuts. MS Windows do. If layout change hotkeys is pressed with another key this must be treated as application shortcut and layout must not be changed. Combined with shortcut bugs in some Linux applications [Bug 2561] this makes keyboard shortcuts nearly unusable in default bilingual configuration. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
