[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2022-07-14 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Looks like all recent reports are pointing to bug 1683383 instead so
let's just use that.

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2022-07-14 Thread Norbert
** Tags added: jammy kinetic

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2022-07-14 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Tags removed: impish

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2022-03-30 Thread Jeremy Bicha
Ubuntu 21.04 is no longer supported. If you are using 21.04, please upgrade to 
21.10.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2022-03-30 Thread WildWeasel
I don't understand why hirsute has been removed, I'm using it and just
hit this bug. Please restore the hirsute tag.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2022-01-20 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Tags removed: hirsute

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2021-12-20 Thread Nazarii Ritter
Daniel (or anyone else), can you explain why the current state of things
with keyboard shortcuts is considered better?

Here is how I see it works in Windows and Ubuntu.

How it works in Windows:

(I press Ctrl) + (I release Ctrl) = the mouse pointer is shown.
(I press Ctrl + I press Shift) + (I release Ctrl + I release Shift) = a 
keyboard layout changed.
(I press Ctrl + I press Shift + I press N) + (I release Ctrl + I release Shift 
+ I release N) = a new folder created.

How it works in Ubuntu:
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(I press Ctrl) = the mouse pointer is shown.
(I press Ctrl) = the mouse pointer is shown. Though, I wanted also to press 
Shift, then release Ctrl and Shift and get a keyboard layout changed.
(I press Ctrl) = the mouse pointer is shown. Though, I wanted also to press 
Shift and N, then release Ctrl, Shift  and N and get a new folder created.

As you can see, even if dozens of shortcuts are possible, they get
completely useless in Ubuntu as they get blocked immediately one presses
Ctrl (in the example I presented). I always thought that making things
easier and faster is very important (especially, nowadays). It's easier
and faster to copy/paste via Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V than via Edit menu where you
have to find where those copy/pase items reside.

Maybe I and other users don't understand something. Explain, please.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2021-08-03 Thread Norbert
** Tags removed: disco eoan trusty
** Tags added: focal hirsute impish

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2021-04-06 Thread Andrew Robert
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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2020-09-17 Thread Pavel Terentyev
@nrbrtx it works for me (Ubuntu 20.04 LTS)
Strl+Shift+t now works but still switches layout.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2020-09-09 Thread Yuriy Chernichenko
@nrbrtx it works! Thank you very much!

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2020-09-09 Thread Norbert
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I have just uploaded newest HWE package versions with latest security fixes to 
the PPA. 
You have to try adding it again and upgrading Xorg packages from it.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2020-09-09 Thread Yuriy Chernichenko
@nrbrtx, hi. Thank you so much for your patch. I'm using it for more than one 
year, but few days ago I reinstalled my OS and it doesn't work now. I tried to 
completely reinstall it but it didn't help.
I use xubuntu 18.04.5 LTS.
Can you help or give some advice?

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2020-04-19 Thread Oded Arbel
The GNOME issue is completely separate from the problem of "triggering
layout change on press", as GNOME does not use the kxb behavior at all -
it actually disables any options set using setxkbmap - instead it
listens to keyboard events and implements its own custom behavior that
mimics Mac OS.

Note that with the current release (19.10, but also tested 20.04) on
Kubuntu with xserver 1.20 that *does not* include the patch from
freedesktop.org bug 865, layout switching works on release - as
requested. I'm not sure what introduced this behavior and whether it is
in X.org or in KDE.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2020-04-19 Thread ALEKSEI VOLKOV
I am running ubuntu 19.10 with recent gnome 3 and did not find any
working solution to switch layout on Ctrl +Shift shortcuts key release.
Eventualy i wrote a dirty workoround to fit my needs.

https://gitlab.com/softkot/gnome3_xinput_layout_switch

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2020-02-22 Thread Dik
It is not a bug, its a feature. To speed up the typing. Set the layout
change on CapsLock. (In a case you need old caps behavior, you get it
with shift + Caoslock)

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2020-02-22 Thread Dik
I have an Ubuntu 16.04, how I can restore the normal behavior? I mean
change on Keypress

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2020-02-22 Thread Dik
I would say, that change on Keypress _must_ be the default behavior,
because in an opposite case, there are problems of typing, if toogle in
on CapsLock, and you are typing rapidly.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2019-08-07 Thread Ioann
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I have Laptop with 16.04.
And Alt+Shift, Alt+Shift+Tab are working ok.
I have also tested it with new default installation in Virtualbox.
And it also works fine.
And it doesn't matter if i use Mate or Unity.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2019-08-04 Thread Norbert
Just a silent reminder: I have created a PPA (
https://launchpad.net/~nrbrtx/+archive/ubuntu/xorg-hotkeys ) with
patched packages for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (xenial, with HWE) and upwards
(including upcoming 19.10), use its description for instructions.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2019-08-04 Thread Ioann
So. This problem is still here.
I found following situation:
On older 16.04 layout is changing with releasing Control/Shift/Alt keys.
In 18.04 layout is changing while pressing key combination. 
May be it is setting somewhere in X.org?
Is it possible to find and change it?
It can affect all people in the world, that have non latin-like language as 
basic language.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2019-07-21 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Tags removed: cosmic

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2019-06-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Status: Unknown => New

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2019-06-18 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
** Bug watch added: gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues #258
   https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/258

** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: High => Unknown

** Changed in: xorg-server
   Status: Fix Released => Unknown

** Changed in: xorg-server
 Remote watch: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #865 => 
gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues #258

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2019-06-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Status: Unknown => Fix Released

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2019-06-02 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released => Confirmed

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2019-06-02 Thread Alexey
Someone should revert this 'Fix Released' status - it is here again in
18.04 (and according to forums in 17.x also).

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2019-04-21 Thread Norbert
** Tags removed: artful
** Tags added: cosmic disco eoan

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2019-02-10 Thread Mikhail Chabanov
SOLUTION

For myself I created temporary hack allowing to switch Keyboard layouts
(en<->ru) by Ctrl+Shift on key release. My method does not interfere
with other shortcuts. I use it myself on daily basis.

It's simple Python script which listen to Ctrl+Shift key combination and switch 
layout on release.
It can be downloaded here 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IvgvLFwe2HoGtEzuQnrUoAnEZk1ZCcSw/view?usp=sharing
Please read instructions in ReadMe.txt

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2018-12-13 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Status: Confirmed => Unknown

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2018-12-11 Thread Balashov Dmitry
more than 12 years of this bug. a shame.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2018-12-01 Thread Telmenko Igor Valerievish
Why does it not in default settings?

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2018-06-08 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #786257
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** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #891915
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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2018-04-07 Thread Norbert
Dear all!

I have created PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~nrbrtx/+archive/ubuntu/xorg-
hotkeys ) with patched packages for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (xenial, with HWE)
and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (bionic).

You can test them by the following commands:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nrbrtx/xorg-hotkeys
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Hope this helps.


** Tags added: artful bionic trusty xenial

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2017-10-14 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Status: Won't Fix => Confirmed

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2017-10-13 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Status: In Progress => Won't Fix

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2017-08-16 Thread Artem Kovalov
Applying a patch indicated tlk saved my day. Hope some day this issue
will be resolved forever.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2017-04-17 Thread Lastique
Since this bug is marked as resolved for xorg-server, I've created a new
one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1683383.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2017-04-15 Thread tlk
I see the patch's been dropped for zesty

changelog.Debian for xserver-xorg-core says:
xorg-server (2:1.19.3-1ubuntu1) zesty; urgency=medium
  * 208_switch_on_release.diff: Dropped, doesn't work with 1.19.

There's a new patch posted to the corresponding bug on freedesktop
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865 (attachment:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=129861) which is
supposedly compatible with 1.19

Could someone look at it please?
Vanilla behavior for those who used to switching input layout with something 
like Ctrl-Shift is really annoying.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2017-04-15 Thread tlk
I'v just installed Ubuntu Mate 17.04 and this patch doesn't appear to work 
anymore - suspect it's because Xorg has moved from evdev to libinput for 
handling the issue of input.
Really would like to bring the old behavior back. If anyone knows of a solution 
I'd be grateful if you point me at it.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2016-03-29 Thread Oded Arbel
@orange-buffalo: the problem you describe is not this bug - its a
problem with GNOME itself. This report is about the Xserver bug that was
fixed by Ubuntu (though not in Xorg itself, so it is still evident in
non-Ubuntu operating system).

For the GNOME shell bug, check this bug report:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1091631


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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2016-03-29 Thread orange-buffalo
This bug is still reproducible on Ubuntu 15.10 with GNOME Shell 3.16.4

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2015-01-02 Thread Mathew Hodson
** Package changed: control-center (Ubuntu) = gnome-control-center
(Ubuntu)

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-12-04 Thread Lisio
Ubuntu 13.10 has exactly the same bug.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-12-04 Thread Volodya
Ubuntu 13.10 does not work. Willing to help by providing any requested
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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-11-30 Thread Oded Arbel
This issue is still solved for me - test if the fix still works by
holding slowly ALT then SHIFT then some letter key, then release all one
by one - if the keyboard layout has not changed, then the issue is still
resolved.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread Levan Chelidze
It stooped working again

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-11-02 Thread Constantine
Appears again in Ubuntu 13.10

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-02-05 Thread Ilya Murav'jov
 My English is bad. So can I e-mail you details in Russian?
Ok, but I am far away from playing with Xorg now.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-02-05 Thread Ilya Murav'jov
 Just my 0.02 cents. Why not to introduce transaction concept for key 
 presses?
You just go too far. Xorg developers don't apply the patch because _any_ such 
events should be sent on press, not on release. Because X specifications tell 
so and they will be broken down  otherwise.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-02-05 Thread Ilya Murav'jov
And if X specifications are broken down then some applications may be
potentionally broken down.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-01-24 Thread anatoly techtonik
Just my 0.02 cents. Why not to introduce transaction concept for key
presses?

1. Transaction is finished when the last key is released
2. The returned result from the transaction is the sequence of keys pressed

This should solve all [Alt, Shift] problems.

Example:
  user presses Alt key
  user presses Shift key and releases it
  user presses Shift key
  user releases Alt key
  user releases Shift key

The returned sequence is [Alt, Shift, Shift]

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-01-15 Thread Denis Zhdanov
For example, if I press a key (letter, backspace or other) and then layout 
switch combination without half second pause between, then layout wont be 
changed.
To switch between layouts I use caps/shift+caps combination. It's not a 
modifier only combination, but still affected by 208_switch_on_release.diff 
patch. In Windows even alt+shift combination work perfectly.

My English is bad. So can I e-mail you details in Russian?

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-01-12 Thread Ilya Murav'jov
Denis,
What do you mean that key-on-release behavior is unreliable while typing? 
Please describe.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-01-12 Thread Evgeny Kolesnikov
Typing so fast that keys release events happen in different order than
press events? Typing with chords?

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2013-01-09 Thread Denis Zhdanov
I have to recompile xorg-server on ubuntu because of this patch. It may
be useful for layout switching with only modifier keys, but key-on-
release behavior is unreliable while typing.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-12-26 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #660254
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** Bug watch added: Gentoo Bugzilla #379827
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** Bug watch added: Gentoo Bugzilla #304375
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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-12-26 Thread Constantine
Scroll-Lock indicator always shows correct layout

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-11-11 Thread Curtis Hovey
** No longer affects: null

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-09-26 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: Critical = High

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-04-08 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: Medium = Critical

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-02-09 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: Unknown = Medium

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-02-02 Thread Oded Arbel
@Bryce Harrington: This feature was apparently dropped from the latest
Natty release ( 2:1.9.99.901+git20110131.be3be758-0ubuntu1 -
http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xorg-
server_1.9.99.901+git20110131.be3be758-0ubuntu1/changelog ) by
Christopher James Halse Rogers (CCed) with the following comment:

* Drop 208_switch_on_release.diff; upstream

By upstream I figured it meant Debian (the title of the change was
Merge from (unreleased) debian-experimental) and not freedesktop.org -
as I know they didn't commit this fix. On the other hand, I looked
everywhere and couldn't find any reference of such an upstream release
from Debian - and indeed after installing the latest xorg-server, the
functionality has disappeared.

As such I'm reopening this issue and I hope the patch will come back
before Natty is released. Again, thanks for all the effort.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-02-02 Thread Oded Arbel
Oops - apparently I can't reopen this bug. Someone with permissions -
please reopen this ticket and/or resubmit the patch. Thanks in advance.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-02-02 Thread Nick Andrik
I have created a new bug here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/711842

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2011-01-27 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: Medium = Unknown

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-01-07 Thread Timo Aaltonen
uploaded to natty

** Package changed: xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) = xorg-server
(Ubuntu)

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-01-07 Thread Alexey Kozlov
@Bryce Harrington, thanks a lot, we all here have been waiting for this
day to come! :)

Speaking about testing, here is one more feedback from me:

I'm using my maverick with this patch applied for a couple of months
now. Shortcuts are working as they should in Firefox, Eclipse and Gnome
terminal, no side effects observed.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-01-07 Thread Nick Andrik
Many many thanks!!
It is indeed a long awaited day :D

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-01-07 Thread Sergey Sinitsa
Hi.

I reported this bug here five years ago, gathered the info in 2006-2007
and watched the logs all those years. I really happy it is fixed in
Ubuntu. I even wrote a historical review of this issue in my blog:

http://rulinux.net.ru/node/462

I want to say huge thanks to Ilya Murav'jov, Alexey Kozlov, Oded Arbel,
Daniel Stone, Nick Andrik, Bryce Harrington, Timo Aaltonen and many many
other users and developers involved to fix it!

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2011-01-06 Thread Bryce Harrington
@Alexey Kozlov, thanks for your well written summary of the problem.

The one warning flag is the contradicts spec issue (which may be what
has blocked this from being taken up 'til now), however the exact words
from upstream about this seem less dire:

 The patch looks pretty much fine to me, except that I'd just hardcode
 release-only and don't try to make it configurable.  I'm not entirely
 sure about the bit marked with KLUDGE, and would like to find a better
 way to do it, but if that's fixed (I'll try to have a look this weekend
 or next, depending on time), my only objection to merging it is that it
 explicitly contradicts the spec.  I'm not entirely convinced that's a
 dealbreaker though.

I can understand that voiding the spec is a blocker for upstream, but at
the distro level there's a little bit more flexibility, especially given
the top-level direction that we'll eventually move away from X11 towards
something Wayland-ish anyway.

It sounds like the next step required for this patch is to gain some
more widespread testing.  Since the change is behavioral, it seems low
risk for causing crashes or other critical issues, so tentatively I'm
willing to stick it in natty and see how it goes.

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed

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2011-01-06 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/xorg-server

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-12-10 Thread Ignat Loskutov
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-12-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: control-center (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) = (unassigned)

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-12-03 Thread Dave Walker
Comment, asked for an update on the upstream bug tracker.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-11-28 Thread bugbot
** Package changed: xorg (Ubuntu) = xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-11-27 Thread Sense Hofstede
Thank you for taking the time to report this issue. However, I'm
declining this as a paper cut because this bug is not trivially fixable.
A paper cut is a small usability problem in default and featured
applications that affect many users.

Please note that I'm marking this as Invalid for the One Hundred Paper Cuts 
project ONLY.
I've opened a new task for Xorg in Ubuntu—which was missing—that makes this bug 
show up on the radar of the people whose task it is to look after X. Previously 
this tasked lacked, so the Ubuntu X developers couldn't have known this bug 
existed. A task for xorg should have been added when this bug was marked as 
Invalid for control-center.

** Also affects: xorg (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Project changed: hundredpapercuts = null

** Changed in: null
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-11-27 Thread Nick Andrik
** Description changed:

- I have Ctrl+Shift set to layout switch and press ctrl+shift+N (to open
- new Terminal or new tab in Opera) -- as a result I have my keyboard
- layout switched. This happens because Ubuntu (or XOrg?) change layout on
- key press instead of release and do not match layout hotkeys with
- application shortcuts. MS Windows do. If layout change hotkeys is
- pressed with another key this must be treated as application shortcut
- and layout must not be changed. Combined with shortcut bugs in some
- Linux applications [Bug 2561] this makes keyboard shortcuts nearly
- unusable in default bilingual configuration.
+ This is a bug about shortcuts mapped to combinations which include each
+ other.
+ 
+ For example, if we have Ctrl+Shift (for keyboard layout) and Ctrl+Shift+N (to 
open a new terminal), then we are practically unable to use the second 
shortcut; this is what happens:
+ Ctrl press  (nothing happens)
+ Shift press (keyboard layout change)
+ N (a simple N appears, since a shortcut has already fired)
+ 
+ The expected behavior is to fire shortcuts on the release (not on press)
+ of the special keys (ctrl,shift,alt, etc) which is also how Windows
+ behave. This is a serious problem for bilingual layouts, typically using
+ Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift for keyboard layout change.
+ 
+ 
+ For users being affected by this problem, the easiest solution for now is to 
add this PPA in your repositories:
+ https://launchpad.net/~oded-geek/+archive/xorg-patches
+ 
+ 
+ Practical summary of this bug for ubuntu developers (since reading 120 
comments is impractical for most):
+ This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the 
main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a 
patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream (#55), and attached here (#61).
+ Upstream xorg has refused to apply the patch, mainly because it explicitly 
contradicts the (xkb) spec  (#84, #91).
+ This patch has been reported to work for many people without any problems, 
and there is also a PPA by Oded Arbel (#95) where he maintains a patched 
version of the ubuntu xorg.
+ The proper resolution of this bug would be to apply this patch in the 
upstream xorg, or at minimum to the official ubuntu xorg package.

** Description changed:

** Description changed:

  This is a bug about shortcuts mapped to combinations which include each
  other.
  
  For example, if we have Ctrl+Shift (for keyboard layout) and Ctrl+Shift+N (to 
open a new terminal), then we are practically unable to use the second 
shortcut; this is what happens:
  Ctrl press  (nothing happens)
  Shift press (keyboard layout change)
  N (a simple N appears, since a shortcut has already fired)
  
  The expected behavior is to fire shortcuts on the release (not on press)
  of the special keys (ctrl,shift,alt, etc) which is also how Windows
  behave. This is a serious problem for bilingual layouts, typically using
  Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift for keyboard layout change.
  
- 
  For users being affected by this problem, the easiest solution for now is to 
add this PPA in your repositories:
  https://launchpad.net/~oded-geek/+archive/xorg-patches
  
- 
  Practical summary of this bug for ubuntu developers (since reading 120 
comments is impractical for most):
- This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the 
main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a 
patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream (#55), and attached here (#61).
+ This problem is a really old (since 2004) issue of the xkb part of xorg; the 
main discussion was made upstream in freedesktop-bugs #865. There has been a 
patch from Ilya Murav'jov for upstream 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/36812/comments/55),
 and attached here (#61).
  Upstream xorg has refused to apply the patch, mainly because it explicitly 
contradicts the (xkb) spec  (#84, #91).
  This patch has been reported to work for many people without any problems, 
and there is also a PPA by Oded Arbel (#95) where he maintains a patched 
version of the ubuntu xorg.
  The proper resolution of this bug would be to apply this patch in the 
upstream xorg, or at minimum to the official ubuntu xorg package.

** Description changed:

  This is a bug about shortcuts mapped to combinations which include each
  other.
  
  For example, if we have Ctrl+Shift (for keyboard layout) and Ctrl+Shift+N (to 
open a new terminal), then we are practically unable to use the second 
shortcut; this is what happens:
  Ctrl press  (nothing happens)
  Shift press (keyboard layout change)
  N (a simple N appears, since a shortcut has already fired)
  
  The expected behavior is to fire shortcuts on the release (not on press)
  of the special keys (ctrl,shift,alt, etc) which is also how Windows
  behave. This is a serious problem for bilingual layouts, typically using
  Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift for keyboard layout change.
  
  For users 

[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-11-05 Thread Alexey Kozlov
Azamat S. Kalimoulline, we all here are interested, how many more years
will it take, for this at last to happen.

AlexGenaud, I suppose Ctrl+Shift is a good shortuct (actually I used it
in Windows as well, cause it seems to me more convenient as default
Alt+Shift)

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-11-05 Thread Rocko
I use Shift+Caps Lock. Ctrl-Shift is a bit too easy for me to hit by
accident.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-10-28 Thread AlexGenaud
(me too) confirm Alt-Shift keyboard layout switch incompatible with Alt-
Shift-Tab Window switching in reverse in Ubuntu 10.10...

This bug is set to Low/Medium priority, but what are the recommended
work-arounds? Alt-Shift is an obvious keyboard layout switch because it
is default in Windows. Alt-Space is default on Mac OS X (I think) but
that is incompatible with Gnome window menus. Various other combinations
conflict (like Alt-Gr/Right Alt is nec. for many non-English layouts).
How are polyglot Ubuntu users switching keyboard layouts?

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-10-26 Thread Azamat S. Kalimoulline
Using patched xorg from Oded ppa fixes my problem. Keboard layout
changes on release and works like a charm. No side-effects affects to
me. When this patch will be included in official source tree and when it
will be available in repositories?

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-10-11 Thread Nick Andrik
I guess it is this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/625793

As it seems, gnome-settings-daemon is to blame and not Oded's patch.

Is there any other annoyance with the proposed patch?
I hope we can get it in the official package some time soon, instead of having 
to rely to parallel unofficial repositories.

Nick

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-10-11 Thread Nick Andrik
Small correction above: the patch is from Ilya, not from Oded

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-09-27 Thread Vadim Dmitriev
Yesterday I upgraded to maverick and today experienced layout switching bug. 
Not sure if it relates to the original xserver because I immediately installed 
patched version kindly provided by Oded Arbel.
However, here is how it looks like: at a random moment when I switch layout 
gnome-settings-daemon spikes to 100%, active layout is 'stuck' (i.e. it does no 
longer switch) and when I press and hold a key a random sequence of two 
characters is printed (chars from two installed layouts mapped to the same 
key). My second layout is cyrillic, so if I hold down ф, printed sequence 
looks like фaффффaaaффaфa.
I haven't found any guaranteed  way to trigger such a behavior, but is does 
happen several times a day at moments when I switch layouts actively (1-2 times 
a second).
Have anybody else faced something like this with the original xserver and/or 
patched version?

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-09-27 Thread Oded Arbel
I have seen this behavior as well in the patched X-Server, and I may
have also seen this with the original Maverick X-Server - though I'm not
sure about it.

I get this bug triggered only by using Synergy, but with almost 100%
consistency: I use Ubuntu 10.04 as a Synergy server, and 10.10 is the
client. If I move my mouse to the 10.10 screen and try to switch
languages by using ALT-SHIFT on the server keyboard, I get the faulty
behavior.

What happens is that gnome-settings-daemon - which is normally
responsible for switching layouts when you switch applications - starts
switching through all the layouts uncontrollably as if the switching
keys are stuck, and takes up 100% CPU. If you start typing anywhere,
you'd get characters from all layouts mixed together. At this point, if
you try to use the keyboard layout indicator in the session applet,
you'd see that its stuck and does not respond to requests to set the
layout. Finally, sending TERM to gnome-settings-daemon will not stop it
and you must use the KILL signal (-9).

I believe this is a gnome-settings-daemon, mostly as I can also cause
gnome-settings-daemon to spike to 100% CPU usage simply by sending it a
TERM signal while working normally. At which point the keyboard layout
indicator is again stuck and does not respond to actions, but using the
layout switching keys works normally and there is no cycling through the
layouts.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-09-16 Thread Nick Andrik
I believe this bug falls in the papercut category and I have nominated
as such.

It satisfies all the requirements for a papercut:
* A bug, or an unintended problem occurring within an existing piece of 
software, (Xorg)
* the presence of which makes a computer more difficult or less pleasant to 
use, (international users cannot use the desired shortcuts)
* that is easy to fix, (patch already available)
* that the average user would encounter... (insternational users with 
multiple keyboard layouts)
* in a default installation of Latest release of Ubuntu or Kubuntu, Desktop 
Edition. (Xorg is installed by default and this bug is already many years old)

Please consider applying Ilya's patch attached in this bug report.

** Also affects: hundredpapercuts
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-09-15 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnome-control-center
   Status: Invalid = Unknown

** Changed in: gnome-control-center
   Importance: Unknown = Medium

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-08-29 Thread Nick Andrik
Alexey, could you please send them an email and CC also this bug ( Bug 36812 
36...@bugs.launchpad.net  )?
Like this we can get their response here.

Thanks,
Nick

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-08-29 Thread Alexey Kozlov
Nick, should I send e-mail to their maillist
ubuntu-x-swat(at)lists.launchpad  ?

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-08-28 Thread Alexey Kozlov
So, still no reaction from x-swat after almost a week. Should we send
them email and ask directly?

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-08-21 Thread Alexey Kozlov
First of all, thanks to all of you guys for your efforts and especially to Ilya 
fot the patch.
I'm also affected and extremely annoyed by this bug. I've moved to Linux 
recently and first mentioned, that Ctrl+Shift+T doesn't work in Firefox, and 
then it turned out, that I can't use Eclipse properly since there are many 
vital Ctrl+Shift shortcuts there.

And I'd like to be explicit here - IMO it's just a shame that such a
STUPID bug is still not fixed after SIX years (it was reported back in
2004!). OK, I understand, it's free software and nobody gets paid for
fixing bugs, but denying existing patch for some kind of puristic (not
to say religious) reasons - it seems to me, well, strange. How can we
claim that Ubuntu (in particular) is user-friendly and for people and
at the same time preserve such annoying bugs? (another example I've ran
into - mystical restriction to have max. of 4 KB layouts in XKB - but at
least it's not so common. btw excuse is the same - the holy spec).

I'm not sure how it aligns with existing procedures, but wouldn't it be
possible to apply this patch during packaging Xorg for Ubuntu, so that
Xorg packages from standard repos (and their future updates) include
this fix?

After all, this bug really affects a lot of people, since there are
users outside US as well and almost all of them use layout switching.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-08-21 Thread Oded Arbel
It is quite possible to package the patch just for Ubuntu. I'm actually
maintaining such a build in my ppa at https://launchpad.net/~oded-
geek/+archive/xorg-patches.

All ubuntu devs should do is just pick up the diff from my ppa and apply
it as an update to 10.04 or 9.10. I will also deliver a patched XOrg for
10.10 shortly.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-08-21 Thread Alexey Kozlov
Oded,

thanks, I saw patched packages in your ppa and it's great. But my question was, 
are there any ways to convince Ubuntu  maintainers to include them in standard 
repos?
(more precisely, to apply Ilya's patch to each new Xorg version and put this 
patched version in standard repo).

I suppose, the reasons are clear: 1) new users get fixed version out-of-
the-box 2) no need to reinstall package from ppa after each Xorg update
(it's not just a question of 10.04/10.10, they also produce intermediate
bug-fix releases of Xorg, aren't they?)

But the whole thing seems to me a little hacky, that's why I ask about
procedures,

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-08-21 Thread Oded Arbel
@Alexey: Regarding your point (2), if I do a well enough job and release
an update to the PPA immediately after Ubuntu upstream releases an X
update, then users will only have to install 1 update, or at worst
they'd have 1 X update that requires them to logout and another X update
a day later that again requires a log out.

Regarding point (1) - Ubuntu's X11 distribution carries a lot of out of
stream patches (in 10.04 I count more then 50 additional patches) that
are either in process of being accepted upstream to x.org or
intermediate fixed waiting for another fix from upstream or even patches
that have no chance of being accepted upstream - and Ubuntu still caries
them and make sure they are up to date until they have a better solution
from X.org.

To get Ilya's patch into Ubuntu proper, it requires simply the
intervention of Ubuntu's X-SWAT team (
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat ) and that most likely will not
require a rewrite of XKB ;-) but I don't see any of these people list on
this bug report, and I'm not sure what is the procedure for addressing
the Ubuntu X team directly.

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-08-21 Thread Nick Andrik
Hello Oded,

I think it is a good idea to subscribe the team in this bug report in order to 
have their opinion.
And, btw, we should probably move the bug to the appropriate package (it is not 
in the control-center it is in xorg)

Nick

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[Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-08-21 Thread Alexey Kozlov
Oded,

thanks for your explanations. Hope X-SWAT team will add this patch to Ubuntu 
X11 distro.
Is it enough to just subscribe them or should we attract their attention in 
some other way? :)

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Re: [Bug 36812] Re: Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts

2010-08-21 Thread Nick Andrik
I have already subscribed the x-swat team for now.
We wait a bit to see if someone responds and if not we can also email them
to see if they think that accepting Ilya's patch in the official ubuntu
version is a good idea.

Nick

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