[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-02-17 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-02-11 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-02-10 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package gdm - 2.32.0-0ubuntu7

---
gdm (2.32.0-0ubuntu7) natty; urgency=low

  [ Gunnar Hjalmarsson ]
  * debian/patches/40_one_lang_option_per_translation.patch:
- The option list in the language chooser changed so the items
  represent available translations instead of locales
  (LP: #693337).
- setlocale() validation removed (not applicable).
- Show locale variants in the list of language options
  (LP: #408474).
  * debian/patches/36_language_environment_settings.patch:
- Skip the encoding part in the dmrc Language value. It's not
  a locale name, so let's not give the impression it is.
- Take main country code into account when generating
  a locale name for LC_MESSAGES.

  [ Kees Cook ]
  * Restore 24_respect_system_minuid.patch: upstream does not handle
reading login.defs yet (LP: #708911).
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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-11 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Like Pau I like your idea, Arne, and I agree that it would be much less
'hackish' than doing it for just one @variant. As regards GDM it would
require a method that passes the efficiency restrictions of the boot
sequence. Guess you know better than me how hard that may be. ;-)

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-10 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/gdm/language-menu

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-10 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
In the linked branch lp:~gunnarhj/gdm/language-menu I propose code that
would fix this bug in the GDM package in Ubuntu 11.04. Given that code,
ca...@valencia is displayed as Catalan (Spain) - valencia.

If you want to check it out, packages with the changes are available at
https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/language-menus

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** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-10 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-10 Thread Pau Iranzo
Hi,

The name we're using when translating into ca...@valencia is «Catalan 
(Valencian)». Actually, this is the name we're using on Lauchpad:
https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/c...@valencia

Could it be possible to use that one (Catalan (Valencian)) instead of
«Catalan (Spain) - valencia»?

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-10 Thread AsstZD
No. ca CAN be translated to Catalan etc. ES CAN be translated to
Spain. ca...@valencia, c...@valencia, or @valencia CAN NOT be
translated, as valencia is just a arbitrary string made up by user,
the same as in en...@kjsdawe or sv...@wmedv or any other one someone
can dream of. It's not in standard, it's just what it is, and show it
like this is the best way.

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-10 Thread AsstZD
Right way to do it is to register the new language code for Valencian
dialect of Catalan. and use it instead of this hack.

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-10 Thread Pau Iranzo
«Valencian» has already a code assigned by the IANA on the BCP47 standard:
http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry

The subtag is:
Type: variant
Subtag: valencia
Description: Valencian
Added: 2007-03-06
Prefix: ca
Comments: Variety spoken in the Comunidad Valenciana region of Spain,
  where it is co-official with Spanish.

As you can see, the description says «Valencian». There is no «official»
name for this variant, for that reason, «Valencian» translators started
to use the name «Catalan (Valencian)» because it is the best descriptive
option, the code is usually ca-valencia/ca-ES-valencia/c...@valencia/ca-
e...@valencia (po files use the @ for subtags). We use this name on:

GNOME (http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/c...@valencia/)
KDE (http://i18n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk-kde4/team/c...@valencia/)
OpenOffice and LibreOffice (http://translations.documentfoundation.org/ca_XV/)
VirtualBox (http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/2018)
Mozilla (https://addons.mozilla.org/ca/firefox/language-tools/)

As you can see, KDE and GNOME, two of the most important free software
projects are using this name. I don't see any reason to change it. And
it is very important for Valencian users to have a descriptive name of
their variant.

What I'm saying is:

code: c...@valencia (or ca...@valencia)
name: Catalan (Valencian)

Is that possible?





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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-10 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
The proposed code for @variants is general, and intended to be applied
to all translation variants. What Pau suggests would require special
code just for @valencia. Technically it would of course be possible (and
not very difficult), but I fear that such a hack wouldn't be approved
for policy reasons.

Pau: It's a little ironic that you use GNOME to support your suggestion.
Please check out the discussion at
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602965 to see what I mean.
;-)  My code is part of the work with bug 693337, and it will probably
become an Ubuntu only solution.

It may be worth mentioning that GDM and language-selector use different
methods for converting code to menu labels. In language-selector the
language code 'ca' is shown as 'Catalan; Valencian' and in GDM as just
'Catalan'.

Another note: The code for @valencia will be either 'c...@valencia' or
'ca...@valencia'. On my box it's the latter, and the reason for that is
that I'm using FileZilla, whose @valencia translation - unlike all other
@valencia translations - resides under a ca...@valencia directory.
Without FileZilla, the code on my box would be 'c...@valencia', which
would have been shown in GDM as just 'Catalan - valencia'. One reason
for this proposed behavior is the gettext bug 700213...

Sorry for bothering you with these details, but they show that it's more
into it than you may first think. Bottom line is that we'll probably
have to be content for now with the somewhat simplistic solution I'm
proposing. After all it's better than not showing @variants at all.

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-10 Thread AsstZD
GNU Locale format != BCP 47
@modifier field has no relation to either script or variant subtags of latter 
format. Also the latter allows to have script, variant, and any user 
pecularities in several subtags of one language tag, former does not.

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Re: [Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-10 Thread Arne Goetje
On 01/11/2011 07:41 AM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
 The proposed code for @variants is general, and intended to be applied
 to all translation variants. What Pau suggests would require special
 code just for @valencia. Technically it would of course be possible (and
 not very difficult), but I fear that such a hack wouldn't be approved
 for policy reasons.

Actually, I think we can improve this without having special code only
for @valencia, since all @variations would be affected. (see below)

 Pau: It's a little ironic that you use GNOME to support your suggestion.
 Please check out the discussion at
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602965 to see what I mean.
 ;-)  My code is part of the work with bug 693337, and it will probably
 become an Ubuntu only solution.
 
 It may be worth mentioning that GDM and language-selector use different
 methods for converting code to menu labels. In language-selector the
 language code 'ca' is shown as 'Catalan; Valencian' and in GDM as just
 'Catalan'.

Yep. The language/country names and their translations in
language-selector are taken from the iso-codes packages, i.e. they are
the names defined in ISO639-1,2,3 and ISO3166 respectively. In GDM on
the other hand the language/country names are hard coded, means the
translations in both applications would be done separately and may
conflict with each other, since they are two different upstreams.

Since the @variations are not standardized in the iso-codes package, and
I couldn't think of a proper solution which would work for all
@variations, I did it like this in language-selector: the identifier
behind @ in the locale name is chopped off and glued to the (translated)
language name in the format language[ (country)][ - variant], where
country and variant are optional. This also means, the variant name
currently cannot be translated.

Now, the proper solution would probably be something like this:
 * a text file with a mapping between language codes, whose names and
translations need to override the ones from iso-codes
 * this file needs to be parsed and be translatable
 * it should be possible to use the same source for multiple programs
(gdm, language-selector, ...)

One solution I could think of is this:
We create a new package, iso-codes-overrides or something like that.
It contains a xml file in the same format as the iso639 or iso639-3 file
in the iso-codes package, where we have the following fields:
id=c...@valencia
name=Catalan (Valencia) (or something similar)
comment=Catalan dialect spoken in Valencia (a text comment for
translators to let them know what this entry is about)

Then we just need to steal^Wcopy the packaging scripts from the
iso-codes package to make the file translatable. This will then show up
as a translatable package in Launchpad.
Of course this solution would be probably Ubuntu (and maybe debian)
only. The next step would be to replace the hard coded language/country
names in gdm with gettext calls to our new package and the iso-codes
package, in this order. In language-selector we would just need to
insert and additional gettext call.

These overrides would IMHO affect the following language codes/locales:
aa...@saaho (should actually be 'ssy': Saaho, spoken in Eritrea,
compared to Afar, spoken in Ethiopia.)
be...@latin (Belorussian in Latin script, instead of Cyrillic)
ca (Catalan, instead of Catalan; Valencian)
ca_ES (Catalan (Spain), instead of Catalan; Valencian (Spain))
c...@valencia (Catalan (Valencian))
ca...@valencia (Catalan (Valencian) -- no need to include the country
name here)
gez...@abegede (extinct language, don't need to bother about it)
gez...@abegede (extinct language, don't need to bother about it)
ks...@devanagari (Kashmiri in Devanagari Script instead of Arabic)
nan...@latin (Minnan in Latin script, instead of Han script)
sd...@devanagari (Sindhi in Devanagari script, instead of Arabic)
sr...@latin (Serbian in Latin script, instead of Cyrillic)
tt...@iqtelif (Tatar in iQTElif (Latin) script, instead of Cyrillic)
uz...@cyrillic (Uzbek in Cyrillic script, instead of Latin)
zh-hans (Simplified Chinese -- used as language-pack identifier in
language-selector) - would eliminate the hack in language-selector
zh-hant (Traditional Chinese -- used as language-pack identifier in
language-selector) - would eliminate the hack in language-selector

Cheers
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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2011-01-10 Thread Pau Iranzo
OK, I can understand now the problem with this (thanks for the
explanations). It's a shame we have two variants in the same country.

The proposed solution by Arne looks good to me. I know this would be
only for Ubuntu and Debian, but it would be worth it: in all Valencian
schools we have installed a variation of Ubuntu (Lliurex) which is using
at this moment a restricted locale (qcv) and a lot of modifications to
implement Valencian language. If we can work something out (for example
what Arne proposes), it would be perfect. I mean: Ubuntu/Debian is far
too long the most used distribution in Valencia, if this change were
done, we would solve one of our main problems when selecting the system
language.

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-12-13 Thread David Planella
The bug is present as reported in Karmic, Lucid, Maverick and Natty.

As such, I'd suggest unmarking it as Invalid, but I'll leave the
decision to the bugsquad

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-12-11 Thread AsstZD
Still in Maverick.

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-09-16 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gdm
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** Changed in: gdm
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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-08-24 Thread Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi
Is this still an issue? Please re-confirm if it is.

** Changed in: ubuntu-translations
   Status: Confirmed = Incomplete

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Incomplete

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Triaged = Incomplete

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Triaged = Incomplete

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-08-24 Thread Pau Iranzo
Hi,

With Karmic this changed and now the problem is other one. We should
open a new bug I guess. So this one can be ruled out...

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-08-24 Thread Pau Iranzo
Sorry, I meant: «On Lucid...»

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-08-24 Thread Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi
Then, I'll mark this as Invalid.

** Changed in: ubuntu-translations
   Status: Incomplete = Invalid

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Incomplete = Invalid

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Incomplete = Invalid

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Invalid

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-08-11 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Unassigning from the Canonical Desktop Team since we don't work on those

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Karmic)
 Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) = (unassigned)

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
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** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Lucid)
 Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = (unassigned)

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-03-11 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Also affects: gdm (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Low
 Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
   Status: Triaged

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Lucid)
 Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) = Canonical Desktop Team 
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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-01-09 Thread carlesbiano
Here I've got the same problem with c...@valencia, I hope it might not be
difficult to solve it. Thanks!

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-01-08 Thread Josep Vicent Monjo
same issue here with valencian variation of catalan language. I can't
find c...@valencia

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2010-01-07 Thread manutortosa
Same here two Catalan (Spain) entries, simply changing the name of
second one will be great.

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2009-11-25 Thread David Planella
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #602965
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602965

** Changed in: gdm
   Importance: Undecided = Unknown

** Changed in: gdm
   Status: New = Unknown

** Changed in: gdm
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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2009-10-31 Thread Adi Roiban
** Changed in: ubuntu-translations
   Status: New = Confirmed

** Changed in: ubuntu-translations
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2009-10-29 Thread Pau Iranzo
Hi

Same problem here with c...@valencia. The option Catalan (Spain) appears
twice, it seems that the first one is the standard and the second one
the valencian variant (c...@valencia). It's kind of annoying...

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2009-10-22 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Karmic)
Milestone: ubuntu-9.10 = None

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: New = Triaged

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2009-10-09 Thread David Planella
** Also affects: ubuntu-translations
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2009-09-17 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
Milestone: None = ubuntu-9.10

** Also affects: gdm (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Importance: Low
 Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
   Status: New

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2009-09-05 Thread David Planella
Version 2.27.90-0ubuntu1 still presents the same problem. I've tested it
both on Ubuntu and UNR Karmic.

It's exactly the same situation shown in the attachment on comment #1.

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2009-09-02 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The issue seems fixed in the current version, could you try if that
works better? There is no catalan entries there

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2009-08-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)

** Also affects: gdm
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 408474] Re: Language variants information missing in the language selection list

2009-08-03 Thread David Planella

** Attachment added: Gdm login with missing variant information
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29829683/gdm.png

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